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Group B is fucking awesome!! I hope Bisu can move forward, if he does, it will have been through well earned matches and he has alot to prove this season. However, judging by his current win ratio he IS in top form right now.
Soulkey could be trouble for him, but I think Bisu's biggest threat in his group would be effort since they have a very high chance to meet in the winners match. I feel more confident with Bisu vs Sea right now for winners because Bisu has been absolutely crushing terran lately.
I also like seeing so many zerg heavy groups such as A and D. They will be canceling out their high numbers before Ro8. Group A is guaranteed to lose 2 zerg. Meanwhile Group C is guaranteed at least 1 protoss to move forward. We might even get 2 brotoss from group C.
Also, notice that Flash skipped trading effort to group D. Potentially losing either JD or Effort. He would much rather pit effort against Bisu and Sea.
FUUUK this is getting good already!
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[ENG] AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S3 Ro.24 Day6
Light v Jaehoon cuts out in an extremely anti-climactic way.
wtf
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It was a rerun of Day 3. They just showed older games while they prepared for the group selection.
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Anyone know if Mongolia has good TvP? I seem to remember tvz being his best match up.
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On April 26 2017 07:49 ortseam wrote:
I'm curious to see how they will play ZvT on Andromeda, crazy zerg doesn't seem likely to work with the current meta.
I suspect 3 hatch with a bit more drones for the mineral only, into lurkers with mass ling and early carapace upg. Then take another main. Then mass up behind defilers while taking more bases. Some z will go for drops before defilers to abuse the min only and large terran main, and at the same time expand to the island.
It'll be easier to open than other maps since z has more minerals to fight the 5 rax.
T will probably rush to dropship to abuse the big main of the 4th base. Some terrans will probably avoid the 5 rax build and go for a 3-4 rax into mech to get earlier tanks/vessels.
If the zerg is vertical, they will push. If horizontal, they will take the side expo and push. If across, take side expo and center while pushing.
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United States4883 Posts
On April 27 2017 06:51 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2017 07:49 ortseam wrote:
I'm curious to see how they will play ZvT on Andromeda, crazy zerg doesn't seem likely to work with the current meta. I suspect 3 hatch with a bit more drones for the mineral only, into lurkers with mass ling and early carapace upg. Then take another main. Then mass up behind defilers while taking more bases. Some z will go for drops before defilers to abuse the min only and large terran main, and at the same time expand to the island. It'll be easier to open than other maps since z has more minerals to fight the 5 rax. T will probably rush to dropship to abuse the big main of the 4th base. Some terrans will probably avoid the 5 rax build and go for a 3-4 rax into mech to get earlier tanks/vessels. If the zerg is vertical, they will push. If horizontal, they will take the side expo and push. If across, take side expo and center while pushing.
I actually happen to be going through the VoDs for 2008 EVER OSL right now, and that's pretty much what all the Zergs were doing on Andromeda. Of course, Terran meta back then was focused a lot more on defensive play while getting their tech up, but I think the mass ling/lurker style will probably fit well even against the newer styles. I think overall the map tends to favor the Zerg player unless the Terran can get a really solid 5th base down.
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Andromeda will sure be a bit easier map for ZvT in the current meta, it's such a huge map that mech is not that strong.
edit: nvm I remembered it as a sligthly biggerl...
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I'd like to see some Sospa maps come back into play, I actually liked Wind and Cloud as well as Mist.
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TLADT24920 Posts
Group selection ceremony was fantastic overall. Shine and HyuN lol. Also, the whole secret build and those groups, dang. Group B is nuts. I'm hoping to see Bisu and Effort/Soulkey to advance. I can see Sea losing to any of the players but he is the runner-up from last season so who knows. As for Group D, must suck for Jaedong to be in the same group as Last. Last is such a strong player, sSak really screwed things up for him. sSak is definitely the weakest in the group especially if he isn't practicing like they say. Still, hero's ZvZ isn't shabby and Last is strong in TvZ so I think Jaedong might be in trouble...
On April 27 2017 08:42 Phyanketto wrote:
I'd like to see some Sospa maps come back into play, I actually liked Wind and Cloud as well as Mist.
Mist was nice but map size would hurt in ZvT imo. I would definitely like to see Flash play a TvZ on it though, he'll be invincible. You can take the back expo and use tanks on the high ground in the main for defense etc...
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On April 27 2017 11:02 BigFan wrote:Group selection ceremony was fantastic overall. Shine and HyuN lol. Also, the whole secret build and those groups, dang. Group B is nuts. I'm hoping to see Bisu and Effort/Soulkey to advance. I can see Sea losing to any of the players but he is the runner-up from last season so who knows. As for Group D, must suck for Jaedong to be in the same group as Last. Last is such a strong player, sSak really screwed things up for him. sSak is definitely the weakest in the group especially if he isn't practicing like they say. Still, hero's ZvZ isn't shabby and Last is strong in TvZ so I think Jaedong might be in trouble... Show nested quote +On April 27 2017 08:42 Phyanketto wrote:
I'd like to see some Sospa maps come back into play, I actually liked Wind and Cloud as well as Mist. Mist was nice but map size would hurt in ZvT imo. I would definitely like to see Flash play a TvZ on it though, he'll be invincible. You can take the back expo and use tanks on the high ground in the main for defense etc...
Ideally it would replace camelot...
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