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[ASL3] Ro24 Day 6
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
AfreecaTV (FlashFTW and EsportsJohn) Twitch TV (Tasteless and Artosis) ASL Youtube Channel with both English and Korean Stream | ||
Ziggy
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Stax736
United States119 Posts
On April 25 2017 13:58 ZiggyPG wrote: Last is going to crush this group so hard it's not even going to be funny Movie has strong macro, even stronger than Last. The biggest concern to me is Larva, if Movie gets past Larva he will get past Last. | ||
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Aylear
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On April 05 2017 07:04 Aylear wrote: Group A:  Shuttle  SoulkeyGroup B: Shine freeGroup C: Bisu JaehoonGroup D: hero RainGroup E: GuemChi ggaemoGroup F:  Last MovieI like to live dangerously. I called group E like a boss.  I'm 7/10 now, hoping Movie doesn't disappoint. | ||
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oEkY
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YASHSHAKAR
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The question is... Who can stop the zerg right now?? Find out next time on dragonball Z!!! | ||
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valaki
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Tadah
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
On April 25 2017 14:55 Tadah wrote: Wait, Andromeda's back?! Awesome! Love me some island maps :D And the bigger the better! NOOOOOO!!!!! wanted to see some games on blue storm! and now they replaced it with some sort of crap like andromeda?!?! so sad...  | ||
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Aylear
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Esp1noza
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Bakuryu
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id like larva to advance, but i could also see hyun advancing. Edit: stupid GMT..... TL sidebar should be correct since this should start 2 hours earlier than the other weeks | ||
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YASHSHAKAR
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Kleinmuuhg
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On April 25 2017 16:04 Esp1noza wrote: Does it start in 58 minutes? I remember ASL started later last times. Yes, today 2 hours earlier. Starts in 3 mins from now! | ||
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Grettin
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PVJ
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Ziggy
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On April 25 2017 17:07 Grettin wrote: Where's tastosis stream? http://afreeca.tv/36855042 try here | ||
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Aylear
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oEkY
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Wohmfg
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https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=zlE4bw4jDLs | ||
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Grettin
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ty. Switched to Tastosis now on Twitch. https://www.twitch.tv/asl | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On April 25 2017 17:13 atrox_ wrote: whoever decided that dropping the English stream from twitch is a good idea is a moron seeing how poor Afreeca is outside of Korea They didn't, they're just incompetent idiots who broadcast the Korean audio stream on the English cast stream. Fixed now. Tastosis doesn't seem to even know there was a problem. Edit: The audio seems to be desynced too. | ||
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xccam
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EsportsJohn
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gngfn
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Spyfire242
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On April 25 2017 17:14 Spyfire242 wrote: I'm rooting for Movie to make it out, always a CJ fan haha. Wow... what a let down lol... | ||
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
On April 25 2017 17:36 ZiggyPG wrote: welp, at least we wont have to watch a zvz Depends, if movie doesn't show something better vs Hyun we probably will. | ||
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
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Esp1noza
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
On April 25 2017 17:37 xccam wrote: Depends, if movie doesn't show something better vs Hyun we probably will. TBH I understand his decision to try and disrupt Larva in the early game, considering how often the zerg just simply chokes, even when ahead. And I doubt Hyun will be able to give Movie a run for his money in a macro game. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
(I love this game ad: THAN! Than! Than-than-than!!!) | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On April 25 2017 17:36 gngfn wrote: Now the question of the night: will we get Good ZvT Larva or Shook ZvT Larva No Zerg right now is a favorite against even a mediocre terran. I expect a stomp from Last. | ||
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Bakuryu
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On April 25 2017 17:41 Bakuryu wrote: out of all the strategies to come up with in a month long preparation, he chooses a 1 gate proxy on a 2 player map inbetween the nat and the 3rd...... i dont like this the only explanation i have for this is that he thought he was playing in game 1 vs last then in game he noticed it was a zerg,so maybe last offrace and he still keep with the same plan :p | ||
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xccam
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chrisolo
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Aylear
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If you're the better player and you know how to macro, why the what the fucking what kind of hell the fuck would you go 1 gate Zealot pressure without defense? | ||
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Spyfire242
United States715 Posts
On April 25 2017 18:24 Aylear wrote: Just... fucking... If you're the better player and you know how to macro, why the what the fucking what kind of hell the fuck would you go 1 gate Zealot pressure without defense? Well this is obviously a strategy that Movie practiced a ton and was confident in, tonight though it made him look like a fool, oh well. | ||
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Bakuryu
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K.H.J
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After game with Larva, Movie says 'Fucking Sky' LoL | ||
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Aylear
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On April 25 2017 18:30 K.H.J wrote: Sky suggests this strategy to movie. After game with Larva, Movie says 'Fucking Sky' LoL Hahahahahahaha that makes way too much fucking sense | ||
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Aylear
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Esp1noza
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On April 25 2017 18:30 K.H.J wrote: Sky suggests this strategy to movie. After game with Larva, Movie says 'Fucking Sky' LoL well that was better than his second game. | ||
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gngfn
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Shuttle free Light Rain Stork Movie Mind Iris | ||
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Esp1noza
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oEkY
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M2
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Bakuryu
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also, why is movie taking advice from sky, who couldnt even qualify? of course sky would recommend some random proxy gate.... wasnt it also movie who was angry at following advice in asl2 or so? i remember a different instance where somebody recommended a build which failed horribly. | ||
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
On April 25 2017 18:38 M2 wrote: when is the draw? Upcoming ^^ edit: they show 1 or 2 highlights of ro24 first, just like last season (and it is effort on Circuit Breaker again, just like last season when he played that nice game vs rain...) | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1575 Posts
On April 25 2017 18:28 Bakuryu wrote: 12 hatch on outsider.... sometimes i wonder if they choose their builds based on dice rolls instead of logic It is called gambling. | ||
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PVJ
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aedeph
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On April 25 2017 18:44 PVJ wrote: Wow, Tastosis will livecast the draw ceremony. Sounds good~~~ Hope they can translate the humour as good as the one last ASL could | ||
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
On April 25 2017 18:49 aedeph wrote: So, every single possible protoss to fail out in RO24, failed out. if light would have won in his group we would have one P less... | ||
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Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
I know it's been said a few times already but how amazing is it that we are seeing amazing Broodwar being played at korean professional level in 2017 with so many old pros on the scene! With live streams and amazing English casters Artosis and Tasteless. I think TL should send a mass email to everyone who was active here back in the days that Broodwar is back! I myself stumbled here a week ago just to check about the new update and I'm hooked again. | ||
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CrayonPopChoa
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Spyfire242
United States715 Posts
On April 25 2017 18:54 rebdomine wrote: I'm sure a lot of the old fans are still watching. I don't post as much because twitch chat is small enough to actually be a chat rather than constant memes so I usually just chat rather than post in LRs nowadays. All I see is constant meme and troll spam, lol.... | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On April 09 2017 06:04 PVJ wrote: A: Shuttle, Soulkey B: Free, Snow[1] C: Bisu, Light[2] D: hero, Rain E: ~~~STOOORK~~~, GuemChi F: Last, Movie [1] After watching some streams it seems like Camelot is pretty hard for Zerg in PvZ, so I'm expecting them going out early in a group full of vP [2] Light, regardless of his records, can just focus on one matchup and abusing any one good strat on a new map would mean he's halfway there. Gogogo Light! UGHHHHH. 5/12 in total. Can't wait for autumn to bring back the legend of the fall :'DDDDD | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On April 05 2017 07:04 Aylear wrote: Group A: Shuttle SoulkeyGroup B: Shine freeGroup C: Bisu JaehoonGroup D: hero RainGroup E: GuemChi ggaemoGroup F: Last MovieI like to live dangerously. 8/12. RIP Rain, free, Movie, Shuttle. | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
gambling is nice and dandy if your risk is getting rewarded if you "gamble" correct. but if its 1% chance of gambling correct in order to get a small advantage compared to 99% being behind up to where you instantly lose, you better might stop gambling. | ||
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zion
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rebdomine
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On April 25 2017 19:06 zion wrote: Did they say when the draw will b ? like in how many minutes? They said to wait 40 minutes to an hour. Lost track how long ago since they said that | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1575 Posts
On April 25 2017 19:03 Bakuryu wrote: gambling is nice and dandy if your risk is getting rewarded if you "gamble" correct. but if its 1% chance of gambling correct in order to get a small advantage compared to 99% being behind up to where you instantly lose, you better might stop gambling. I believe both reasoning were good, Larva went overpool expecting to take advantage vs pool9 as it is most likely to happen on this map, while Hyun went for hatch12 thinking that his opponent would go pool12 to defend pool9 and take advantage of it. Hyun has been just more audacious and it paid off. Nothing too crazy to me. Larva could have handled this a bit better though. I always found Larva's mind game to be pretty bad, he has this habit of making the wrong choice during official match. | ||
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TheNewEra
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Zera
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GTR
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BLinD-RawR
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On April 25 2017 19:24 TheNewEra wrote: Flash is so lucky that he's seeded otherwise my boy BeSt would just pick him and send him home Ro16 lol | ||
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Ubersturmfuhrer
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Aylear
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
*FlaSh picks Hyun* Hyun's Face: MY FACE WWWHHHHEEEENNNN | ||
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rebdomine
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ShloobeR
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
On April 25 2017 19:55 ShloobeR wrote: do other seeds get to re-arrange themselves in this format? or is every pick final? flash gets one swap. | ||
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Aylear
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Ubersturmfuhrer
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
On April 25 2017 19:59 Ubersturmfuhrer wrote: I wonder if Flash will try to get himself on an all-Zerg group. So much easier to practice for only one match-up. he definitely wants soulkey in his group maybe to get revenge on soulkey | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
On April 25 2017 20:01 Aylear wrote: BeSt picked Mong for his group. Wants a weaker Terran he can out-macro. bit surprising. mong will most likely pick a zerg instead of a terran. ssak would have wanted another terran. | ||
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Aylear
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On April 25 2017 20:05 FlaShFTW wrote: ssak either picks last and tries to bring JD down with him with the TvT matchup, or picks a protoss. You called it. Last picked by sSak for group D. | ||
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FlaShFTW
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god i hope flash swaps bisu into group D would be so funny. | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On April 25 2017 20:11 TheNewEra wrote: Bisu will also get unpicked until D is picking again i agree i think mong will pick shine which means last cant pick shine for D. | ||
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Aylear
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classicyellow83
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Aylear
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Preeetty sure this isn't what Sea wanted. | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On April 25 2017 20:27 Aylear wrote: Shine went straight for EffOrt. Flash's group is now Flash and 3 Zerg. Maybe to force Flash to trade him out? nah i doubt it. flash is probably fine with this. effort only does well vs flash on stream. | ||
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Aylear
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On April 25 2017 20:28 FlaShFTW wrote: nah i doubt it. flash is probably fine with this. effort only does well vs flash on stream. I think he'll either switch EffOrt for someone like ggaemo, or fuck with Bisu by putting him against JD. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
On April 25 2017 20:29 Aylear wrote: I think he'll either switch EffOrt for someone like ggaemo, or fuck with Bisu by putting him against JD. thats what i want. bisu swapped with ssak. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On April 25 2017 20:28 FlaShFTW wrote: nah i doubt it. flash is probably fine with this. effort only does well vs flash on stream. and OSL final | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On April 25 2017 20:35 M2 wrote: flash cant trade group captains i suppose? no. | ||
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Aylear
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On April 25 2017 20:37 konadora wrote: wtf ssak wants to go group a? LOL Against HyuN and Shine? Freaking absolutely. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
On April 25 2017 20:37 konadora wrote: wtf ssak wants to go group a? LOL he could. ssak for effort is legit cause flash would beat ssak more easily than effort. | ||
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FlaShFTW
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Ssak -> EffOrt, gives flash an easier opponent though not all Zergs anymore and makes Group of Death. Ssak -> Bisu, Makes uber group of death EffOrt -> ggaemo, makes Group B harder and gives him an even easier Zerg. Bisu -> Mong, makes pure protoss group for the lulz. | ||
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PVJ
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rebdomine
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On April 25 2017 20:40 PVJ wrote: Could Flash pick anyone from the top 4? He can't pick the captains | ||
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konadora
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FlaShFTW
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On April 25 2017 20:41 Aylear wrote: "Definitely EffOrt away from my group, I just haven't decided who to replace him with..." oh man please do it for ssak. | ||
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PVJ
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Thanks. | ||
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FlaShFTW
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ok well at least one of my predictions was right. all zerg group for flash. Level of Difficulty: B>D>>C>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A | ||
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Aylear
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On April 25 2017 20:53 FlaShFTW wrote: HOLY SHIT THAT GROUP B OH MY GOD GGAEMO IS A GENIUS! ok well at least one of my predictions was right. all zerg group for flash. Level of Difficulty: B>D>>C>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A lol I was gonna say all of this. Group B is looking so godly right now. | ||
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PVJ
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It's not that bad of a group I expect him to pull through. And their side of the bracket will be easier, so Ro4 isn't impossible for him to do. | ||
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Zera
Lithuania716 Posts
On April 25 2017 21:00 PVJ wrote: not literally, though. It's not that bad of a group I expect him to pull through. And their side of the bracket will be easier, so Ro4 isn't impossible for him to do. I think there aren't bracket "sides". Ro8 will be randomly picked. At least that's how ASL2 went. | ||
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EsportsJohn
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/T9i3HZR.jpg) + Show Spoiler + | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On April 25 2017 21:00 PVJ wrote: not literally, though. It's not that bad of a group I expect him to pull through. And their side of the bracket will be easier, so Ro4 isn't impossible for him to do. Jaedong's games on stream, particularly ZvT, have been really abysmal as of late. I'm really surprised he chose a Terran at all instead of one of the weaker Protosses like Jaehoon. | ||
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
A: #1, #24, #21, #25 B: #4, #7, #3, #9 C: #5, #22, #12, #23 D: #6, #13, #2, #10 lmao about group A and B... and Best should advance pretty easily as well, yipieh! | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On April 25 2017 21:26 oEkY wrote: If you look at the groups from an ASL S3 power ranking point of view its just funny A: #1, #24, #21, #25 B: #4, #7, #3, #9 C: #5, #22, #12, #23 D: #6, #13, #2, #10 lmao about group A and B... and Best should advance pretty easily as well, yipieh! lol that really puts it into perspective. This selection process was nutty. | ||
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Aylear
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On April 25 2017 23:01 Terrorbladder wrote: What are final groups? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Afreeca_Starleague_Season_3#Round_of_16_Group_Stage | ||
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Reptilia
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On April 25 2017 18:35 GTR wrote: what a shitty day of games Not one good game today. | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On April 25 2017 23:38 Levque wrote: The maps are hurting this tournament. I dunno, Movie died to a standard ling runby on Camelot...and Circuit Breaker.... | ||
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Miragee
8517 Posts
On April 25 2017 23:48 EsportsJohn wrote: I dunno, Movie died to a standard ling runby on Camelot...and Circuit Breaker.... Yeah, I don't think it's the maps. I'm quite glad that Outsider is being played again. It will make for interesting games in the later stages of the tournament when the players start preparing special builds. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On April 25 2017 21:12 Zera wrote: I think there aren't bracket "sides". Ro8 will be randomly picked. At least that's how ASL2 went. I didn't remember that. Thanks for the correction. But did they limit that 1st can only play vs. a 2nd placed opponent? That would suddenly make it much harder for him. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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On April 25 2017 21:13 EsportsJohn wrote: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGrLb6W5YOM&t=51s Can anyone give me context for this? | ||
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Miragee
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On April 26 2017 00:55 BLinD-RawR wrote: anyone else getting a PDPOP MSL vibe from Group A? How so? Or do you mean Flash being kicked out by randoms? I honestly don't see that coming here. In PDPOP he lost TvTs. With the current meta in TvZ I don't think those zergs stand a chance unfortunately. | ||
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Piste
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tastosis twitch is empty and ASL youtube channel has uploaded the korean version twice. edit: found it from afreeca, I'll post the link if someone else is having hard tie finding it. http://afreeca.tv/36855042/v/66524 | ||
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Zvoboo
Germany160 Posts
On April 26 2017 01:19 Piste wrote: No english VODs for this one it seems tastosis twitch is empty and ASL youtube channel has uploaded the korean version twice. edit: found it from afreeca, I'll post the link if someone else is having hard tie finding it. http://afreeca.tv/36855042/v/66524 here is the youtube english one, they just messed up having the korean casters in the beginning of game 1 (think they fixed it in the first minute or two). | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
Jaedong in general was looking kind of emo during the group selection ceremony, and he looked even worse after sSak decided to get revenge on him by picking Last and trying to create a group of death. Jaedong's ZvT has looked really shaky on stream recently, so I think he was really trying to avoid playing Last if possible. Anyways, at the end of the ceremony, everyone got up and started talking except Jaedong, who was just staring off into space. | ||
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Reptilia
Chile913 Posts
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 26 2017 02:14 EsportsJohn wrote: Jaedong in general was looking kind of emo during the group selection ceremony, and he looked even worse after sSak decided to get revenge on him by picking Last and trying to create a group of death. Jaedong's ZvT has looked really shaky on stream recently, so I think he was really trying to avoid playing Last if possible. Anyways, at the end of the ceremony, everyone got up and started talking except Jaedong, who was just staring off into space. Damn that's sad :/ I know about JD's ZvT, well i hope he can somehow do it | ||
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Reptilia
Chile913 Posts
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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RJGooner
United States2076 Posts
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prech
United States2948 Posts
Looks like the map order has been announced ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DjnvYde.png) Andromeda for the opening 2, Camelot for winners/losers, and Circuit Breaker for finals | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On April 26 2017 05:05 prech wrote: Thanks for the updates, all. TLPD updated with this week's matches Looks like the map order has been announced Andromeda for the opening 2, Camelot for winners/losers, and Circuit Breaker for finals Ending w/ CB seems fairest given the pool. | ||
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toriak
Slovakia477 Posts
Terran Flash - 99 % Zerg Hyun - 41 % Zerg Shine - 50 % Zerg ggaemo - 10 % Terran Sea - 41 % Zerg EffOrt - 57 % Protoss Bisu - 50 % Zerg Soulkey - 52 % Protoss BeSt - 75 % Terran Mong - 55 % Protoss GuemChi - 20 % Protoss Jaehoon 50 %- Zerg Jaedong - 55 % Terran sSak - 55 % Terran Last - 75 % Zerg herO - 15 % | ||
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HalcyonRain
United States124 Posts
On April 26 2017 03:48 iamho wrote: How the hell did Movie even qualify, he looked like absolute garbage Movie is a good player, but his strength is in decision making, game knowledge, game sense, and doing slightly odd things. His weakness is micro/macro, although they're still decent. I still find Movie's play extremely strange, because by proxying on Camelot he's playing into his weakness. If Larva had gone 12 hatch, he might have been alright, but there was no way he was going to out-micro Larva. Circuit Breaker was also very strange. He didn't do an all-in but went for gateway pressure and either messed up his build or played very risky. Going gateway first can be great and it applies a lot of pressure. But it also forces the zerg to make lings, and if you can't pin him in his base with your zealot pressure, and you have no cannon at your natural- well you saw what happened. Movie just seemed really off today. | ||
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
On April 26 2017 05:21 toriak wrote: RACE ID Chance to advance to Ro8 Terran Flash - 99 % Zerg Hyun - 41 % Zerg Shine - 50 % Zerg ggaemo - 10 % Terran Sea - 41 % Zerg EffOrt - 57 % Protoss Bisu - 50 % Zerg Soulkey - 52 % Protoss BeSt - 75 % Terran Mong - 55 % Protoss GuemChi - 20 % Protoss Jaehoon 50 %- Zerg Jaedong - 55 % Terran sSak - 55 % Terran Last - 75 % Zerg herO - 15 % Is this based on TLPD amateur win rates? Or something else? | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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YmotLe
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SoulKey is the jheadong's evil brother | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
his really difficult group and the fact that he screwed himself by picking ssak lol | ||
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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ortseam
996 Posts
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
I'm pretty unsatisfied with the groups. I wanted more evenly balanced skill across the groups. It does not feel right that any of those zergs in group A will go to the ro8 in this way. Has it always been the way that the title-holder can do the last minute switch? | ||
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outscar
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Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
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HyralGambit
2439 Posts
Judging from Jaedong's reserved streaming style (relative to Flash's/Bisu/s energetic streams), I thought Jaedong was always like that. | ||
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Terrorbladder
2719 Posts
On April 26 2017 05:21 toriak wrote: They don't add up to 100%RACE ID Chance to advance to Ro8 Terran Flash - 99 % Zerg Hyun - 41 % Zerg Shine - 50 % Zerg ggaemo - 10 % Terran Sea - 41 % Zerg EffOrt - 57 % Protoss Bisu - 50 % Zerg Soulkey - 52 % Protoss BeSt - 75 % Terran Mong - 55 % Protoss GuemChi - 20 % Protoss Jaehoon 50 %- Zerg Jaedong - 55 % Terran sSak - 55 % Terran Last - 75 % Zerg herO - 15 % | ||
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SBelmont
United States122 Posts
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Barneyk
Sweden305 Posts
On April 25 2017 21:26 oEkY wrote: If you look at the groups from an ASL S3 power ranking point of view its just funny A: #1, #24, #21, #25 B: #4, #7, #3, #9 C: #5, #22, #12, #23 D: #6, #13, #2, #10 lmao about group A and B... and Best should advance pretty easily as well, yipieh! Lol, that is just silly. On April 25 2017 23:38 Levque wrote: The maps are hurting this tournament. Yeah, the new map seems really unbalanced, Terran is really strong on it in both matchups and Protoss is really limited in their possibilities to play it. Outsiders was always a fun but unbalanced map. Especially without the team houses to really train and break maps down I don't think having 2 wonky maps in a map pool of 3 was a good idea. It did not give us many good games. Really really looking forward to the Ro16, man I am so happy that Brood War is back and growing! | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
Group B has some big names it in though, jeez! | ||
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usopsama
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
its 200% since two people move out. | ||
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Zera
Lithuania716 Posts
On April 26 2017 00:07 PVJ wrote: I didn't remember that. Thanks for the correction. But did they limit that 1st can only play vs. a 2nd placed opponent? That would suddenly make it much harder for him. Yes, there are two pools. And players who played in ro16, can't face each other again in ro8. | ||
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Esp1noza
Russian Federation481 Posts
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YASHSHAKAR
United States75 Posts
Soulkey could be trouble for him, but I think Bisu's biggest threat in his group would be effort since they have a very high chance to meet in the winners match. I feel more confident with Bisu vs Sea right now for winners because Bisu has been absolutely crushing terran lately. I also like seeing so many zerg heavy groups such as A and D. They will be canceling out their high numbers before Ro8. Group A is guaranteed to lose 2 zerg. Meanwhile Group C is guaranteed at least 1 protoss to move forward. We might even get 2 brotoss from group C. Also, notice that Flash skipped trading effort to group D. Potentially losing either JD or Effort. He would much rather pit effort against Bisu and Sea. FUUUK this is getting good already! | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
Light v Jaehoon cuts out in an extremely anti-climactic way. wtf | ||
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Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
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Phyanketto
United States505 Posts
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
On April 26 2017 07:49 ortseam wrote: I'm curious to see how they will play ZvT on Andromeda, crazy zerg doesn't seem likely to work with the current meta. I suspect 3 hatch with a bit more drones for the mineral only, into lurkers with mass ling and early carapace upg. Then take another main. Then mass up behind defilers while taking more bases. Some z will go for drops before defilers to abuse the min only and large terran main, and at the same time expand to the island. It'll be easier to open than other maps since z has more minerals to fight the 5 rax. T will probably rush to dropship to abuse the big main of the 4th base. Some terrans will probably avoid the 5 rax build and go for a 3-4 rax into mech to get earlier tanks/vessels. If the zerg is vertical, they will push. If horizontal, they will take the side expo and push. If across, take side expo and center while pushing. | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On April 27 2017 06:51 quirinus wrote: I suspect 3 hatch with a bit more drones for the mineral only, into lurkers with mass ling and early carapace upg. Then take another main. Then mass up behind defilers while taking more bases. Some z will go for drops before defilers to abuse the min only and large terran main, and at the same time expand to the island. It'll be easier to open than other maps since z has more minerals to fight the 5 rax. T will probably rush to dropship to abuse the big main of the 4th base. Some terrans will probably avoid the 5 rax build and go for a 3-4 rax into mech to get earlier tanks/vessels. If the zerg is vertical, they will push. If horizontal, they will take the side expo and push. If across, take side expo and center while pushing. I actually happen to be going through the VoDs for 2008 EVER OSL right now, and that's pretty much what all the Zergs were doing on Andromeda. Of course, Terran meta back then was focused a lot more on defensive play while getting their tech up, but I think the mass ling/lurker style will probably fit well even against the newer styles. I think overall the map tends to favor the Zerg player unless the Terran can get a really solid 5th base down. | ||
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Piste
6179 Posts
edit: nvm I remembered it as a sligthly biggerl... | ||
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Phyanketto
United States505 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On April 27 2017 08:42 Phyanketto wrote: I'd like to see some Sospa maps come back into play, I actually liked Wind and Cloud as well as Mist. Mist was nice but map size would hurt in ZvT imo. I would definitely like to see Flash play a TvZ on it though, he'll be invincible. You can take the back expo and use tanks on the high ground in the main for defense etc... | ||
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Phyanketto
United States505 Posts
On April 27 2017 11:02 BigFan wrote: Group selection ceremony was fantastic overall. Shine and HyuN lol. Also, the whole secret build and those groups, dang. Group B is nuts. I'm hoping to see Bisu and Effort/Soulkey to advance. I can see Sea losing to any of the players but he is the runner-up from last season so who knows. As for Group D, must suck for Jaedong to be in the same group as Last. Last is such a strong player, sSak really screwed things up for him. sSak is definitely the weakest in the group especially if he isn't practicing like they say. Still, hero's ZvZ isn't shabby and Last is strong in TvZ so I think Jaedong might be in trouble... Mist was nice but map size would hurt in ZvT imo. I would definitely like to see Flash play a TvZ on it though, he'll be invincible. You can take the back expo and use tanks on the high ground in the main for defense etc... Ideally it would replace camelot... | ||
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