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entityrj
Profile Joined March 2007
United States185 Posts
April 11 2007 13:48 GMT
#141
On April 11 2007 22:43 thedeadhaji wrote:
815 was pretty darn good this game.

>entityrj
Yarnc really didnt "stop" free, since he was honestly getting slapped around by free's control. Free simply didn't expand early enough, which stork made sure to do properly. It was only when free ran out of resources that he had to tap out.

Besides, Yarnc is probably ZvT > ZvZ > ZvP, similar to jaedong ~_~
what's up with these two new powerzergs being subpar at zvp

Good point with Yarnc's MU, but i'm still unconvinced this map isn't imba for P in PvZ.
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Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
April 11 2007 13:48 GMT
#142
On April 11 2007 22:45 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2007 22:41 entityrj wrote:
Mmm, I say very good try by 815. Unless its your favorite Protoss player... you should probably be rooting for Z everytime on this map in a PvZ MU...

The sheer amount of micro required to break mass corsair/shuttle/reaver cheese on THIS MAP is ridiculous. Even yellow BARELY stopped Free here.


Are you kidding me? Free is the best PvZ around and Yellow's ZvP is a joke.

EDIT: Oh, you mean Jr. Well his isn't great either.

I wouldn't say it is a joke. But yeah it's his worst MU for sure.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 11 2007 13:48 GMT
#143
On April 11 2007 22:44 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2007 22:43 ManaBlue wrote:
To tell you the truth, I don't much care for how good these particular games are. I want to see Stork in the OSL so bad!

815 is just another Zerg that can't ZvT. I don't care to see him get rape by one of the zillion terrans in the tournament.

I'd really like to see Stork win this 2-0. Going 1-1 into a game on longinus isn't exactly the best situation.


Normally I'd agree with you. More protosses is always good.

However, a few reasons why I'm supporting 815 in this one:

He's KTF
He's avenging Mantoss [main reason]
There are other Protosses I prefer
There are so few Zergs, as well as few protosses. These maps have been killing both.
815's ZvP is not bland like Silver's.


You make good points. However, I don't see it as avenging Reach. I see continuing on and kicking ass in the OSL and Stork making use of beating my idol. Letting some Zerg punk walk over him is like a double wammy. Reach AND Stork out.

I couldn't bare that.

And yes, the Terrans have been kicking Ps and Zs asses due to these shit maps. But what can I say, I'm unable to feel empathy for Zergs.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
April 11 2007 13:50 GMT
#144
On April 11 2007 22:43 thedeadhaji wrote:
815 was pretty darn good this game.

>entityrj
Yarnc really didnt "stop" free, since he was honestly getting slapped around by free's control. Free simply didn't expand early enough, which stork made sure to do properly. It was only when free ran out of resources that he had to tap out.

Besides, Yarnc is probably ZvT > ZvZ > ZvP, similar to jaedong ~_~
what's up with these two new powerzergs being subpar at zvp


They're following Jinho's trend -.-
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 11 2007 13:51 GMT
#145
Oh shit, proxy.

Looks like Stork is taking one out of Much's books. Reaver proxy into nat pressure.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 11 2007 13:51 GMT
#146
PROXY PROXY PROXY
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 11 2007 13:52 GMT
#147
Oh, 815 knows it's coming. Breaking through the neut buildings.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 11 2007 13:52 GMT
#148
Support bay done.
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Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-11 13:56:31
April 11 2007 13:52 GMT
#149
Terran's power is that one can hardly imagine T-killing map unlike there are a lot of Z-killing and P-killing maps. PvT is balanced at a normal map. But this balance can be easily shifted to T advantage by adding some crappy cliff or neutral building and btw how many maps do you know where P > T.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 11 2007 13:53 GMT
#150
Cute Reach-esque scouting probe shuttle scoop.

I like it.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 11 2007 13:54 GMT
#151
Reaver dies, but takes a good 6 hydra with it.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 11 2007 13:56 GMT
#152
Z NATURAL DEAD
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 11 2007 13:56 GMT
#153
815 couldn't have possibly missed the proxy, could he?

Strange.
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Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
April 11 2007 13:57 GMT
#154
Much's strat + HH = free win.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 11 2007 13:57 GMT
#155
Pylon housing the robo facility goes down, robo to follow.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 11 2007 13:57 GMT
#156
hmm i guess no one's formally reporting?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
April 11 2007 13:58 GMT
#157
Elevator shuttle sends all protoss reaver/goon up to Z min only multi!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 11 2007 13:58 GMT
#158
Another hatch goes DOWN.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 11 2007 13:58 GMT
#159
This won't end well.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
April 11 2007 13:58 GMT
#160
Zerg sends the large part of his hydralisks towards P main, retains a handful along with sunkens to defend his main.

He abandons his min only.
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