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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
December 04 2016 23:38 GMT
#201
The last game was great and the second game hilarious. Hoping for better games from the rest of the ro24.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1760 Posts
December 04 2016 23:41 GMT
#202
On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote:
I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in.


It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong.
LML
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
December 05 2016 01:12 GMT
#203
On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote:
I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in.


It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong.


Mhmm I wouldn't know about that. I'm not that good at BW Let's just call it an improvement then in comparison to Season 1
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
December 05 2016 04:17 GMT
#204
On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote:
I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in.


It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong.

For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific?
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1760 Posts
December 05 2016 04:49 GMT
#205
On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote:
I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in.


It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong.

For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific?


Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual.

Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base.

There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now.
LML
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
December 05 2016 04:52 GMT
#206
On December 05 2016 13:49 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote:
I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in.


It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong.

For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific?


Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual.

Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base.

There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now.


Yeah I agree but it's 2016 and we still have a BW Starleague so I won't complain too much.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1760 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-05 05:00:13
December 05 2016 04:58 GMT
#207
On December 05 2016 13:52 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 13:49 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote:
I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in.


It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong.

For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific?


Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual.

Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base.

There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now.


Yeah I agree but it's 2016 and we still have a BW Starleague so I won't complain too much.


I mean, they are getting paid to cast these games, they could do their homework. Spend 2-3 days and watch a few games from the 2010-2011 ProLeague season on YT and you will see most of the builds already (coincidentally many maps are the same, so even better). They don't need to know what building to make at what supply count, but knowing basic stuff as mentioned above should really be mandatory.
LML
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2257 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-05 06:53:38
December 05 2016 06:50 GMT
#208
On December 05 2016 13:58 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 13:52 Dante08 wrote:
On December 05 2016 13:49 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote:
I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in.


It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong.

For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific?


Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual.

Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base.

There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now.


Yeah I agree but it's 2016 and we still have a BW Starleague so I won't complain too much.


I mean, they are getting paid to cast these games, they could do their homework. Spend 2-3 days and watch a few games from the 2010-2011 ProLeague season on YT and you will see most of the builds already (coincidentally many maps are the same, so even better). They don't need to know what building to make at what supply count, but knowing basic stuff as mentioned above should really be mandatory.


i agree with everything you said good sir.

i mean artosis was all the time saying that he loved bw so much back in the day, it wouldnt hurt him to play 30 games, watch 30 reps, watch a few streams, and get his shit right, is not that hard to relearn whats is standard and what is not, the difference between 9pool or overpool,etc.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
December 05 2016 07:36 GMT
#209
hey rawr can you look at the formatting of your OP's and fix it so that if i want to see the results of the polls i don't need to highlight all the text? thanks very much
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 05 2016 07:43 GMT
#210
Fuck yeah Bisu!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6542 Posts
December 05 2016 08:13 GMT
#211
On December 05 2016 15:50 XenOsky- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 13:58 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 13:52 Dante08 wrote:
On December 05 2016 13:49 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote:
I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in.


It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong.

For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific?


Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual.

Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base.

There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now.


Yeah I agree but it's 2016 and we still have a BW Starleague so I won't complain too much.


I mean, they are getting paid to cast these games, they could do their homework. Spend 2-3 days and watch a few games from the 2010-2011 ProLeague season on YT and you will see most of the builds already (coincidentally many maps are the same, so even better). They don't need to know what building to make at what supply count, but knowing basic stuff as mentioned above should really be mandatory.


i agree with everything you said good sir.

i mean artosis was all the time saying that he loved bw so much back in the day, it wouldnt hurt him to play 30 games, watch 30 reps, watch a few streams, and get his shit right, is not that hard to relearn whats is standard and what is not, the difference between 9pool or overpool,etc.
well by miracle he was right about the circuit breakers game,is much better to take the mineral only vs 1 gate first.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 05 2016 09:51 GMT
#212
On December 05 2016 13:58 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 13:52 Dante08 wrote:
On December 05 2016 13:49 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote:
On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote:
On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote:
I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in.


It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong.

For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific?


Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual.

Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base.

There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now.


Yeah I agree but it's 2016 and we still have a BW Starleague so I won't complain too much.


I mean, they are getting paid to cast these games, they could do their homework. Spend 2-3 days and watch a few games from the 2010-2011 ProLeague season on YT and you will see most of the builds already (coincidentally many maps are the same, so even better). They don't need to know what building to make at what supply count, but knowing basic stuff as mentioned above should really be mandatory.


yeah agreed, they have some wholes in their basic game knowledge, it would be relatively easy to be better informed for them.

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