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![]() Afreeca Starleague Season 2Casters & HostsStreamsAfreeca TV (BisuDagger and FlashFTW) twitch TV (Tasteless and Artosis) ASL Youtube Channel with both English and Korean Stream Matchups and MapsResultsRecommended Games | ||
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Poll: Who Will Advance? Bisu (26) Larva (3) Ample (1) GuemChi (0) 30 total votes Your vote: Who Will Advance? | ||
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This will be the secondary official english stream of the ASL featuring myself and FlashFTW. | ||
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On December 04 2016 12:46 Peeano wrote: BLinD-RawR, you awesome dude and here I believed making LRs was a thankless job | ||
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On December 04 2016 13:24 BLinD-RawR wrote: and here I believed making LRs was a thankless job Ah come on.... We love you <3 | ||
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Also why can't we vote for two people ? It's no two persons per group ? | ||
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On December 04 2016 16:30 FFW_Rude wrote: 2HOURS !!!! ^^ Also why can't we vote for two people ? It's no two persons per group ? I got lazy | ||
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On December 04 2016 18:09 FlaShFTW wrote: Follow FlaShFTW's Prediction overview as the tournament progresses! FlaShFTW predicts: Bisu and Larva. Current record: 0-0 10 pushups for every wrong prediction. | ||
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The game and steam title is even set to Brood War. Let's snowball Brood War to the front page of Twitch! | ||
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![]() Predictins: Bisu>Larva Ample<Guemchi Bisu>Guemchi Larva>Ample Larva>Guemchi | ||
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On December 04 2016 18:11 BLinD-RawR wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2016 18:09 FlaShFTW wrote: Follow FlaShFTW's Prediction overview as the tournament progresses! FlaShFTW predicts: Bisu and Larva. Current record: 0-0 10 pushups for every wrong prediction. i actually threw up today from my workout cause i went too hard and hadnt worked out in a month. but yeah sure. | ||
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Woot excited for this! | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:05 GTR wrote: damn still hasnt fixed her teeth she's aged badly ![]() wow,calm down a bit ;; | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:06 c3rberUs wrote: Isn't that the girl in Spotimes League who casted with TrOt? she is but before that she was part of SSL too and before that part of OSL i believe :D | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:05 GTR wrote: damn still hasnt fixed her teeth she's aged badly ![]() Wait the girl interviewer is toss girl ? | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:07 Sawamura wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2016 19:05 GTR wrote: damn still hasnt fixed her teeth she's aged badly ![]() Wait the girl interviewer is toss girl ? lol no | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:05 GTR wrote: damn still hasnt fixed her teeth she's aged badly ![]() She is still very cute! ^^ | ||
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Yeah, she's quite the cutey still. | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:11 usopsama wrote: ![]() ![]() They are the same person, right? Holy shit I forgot how sexy and handsome Calm was. | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:13 SCC-Faust wrote: Holy shit I forgot how sexy and handsome Calm was. You mean Clam? | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:13 SCC-Faust wrote: Holy shit I forgot how sexy and handsome Calm was. thats what you got from that? lol | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:15 classicyellow83 wrote: WOW. The Korean commentators are mentioning Teamliquid Power Rank for ASL. =) damn wow. | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:17 BLinD-RawR wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2016 19:15 classicyellow83 wrote: WOW. The Korean commentators are mentioning Teamliquid Power Rank for ASL. =) damn wow. | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:15 classicyellow83 wrote: WOW. The Korean commentators are mentioning Teamliquid Power Rank for ASL. =) Thank you for reporting. That is interesting... | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:19 c3rberUs wrote: Now that I think about it again, why does every offline tourney have to have Bisu and Larva in the same group it's a conspiracy | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:19 c3rberUs wrote: Now that I think about it again, why does every offline tourney have to have Bisu and Larva in the same group You know why.... + Show Spoiler + Larva vs BIsu 56-172 (24.6%) | ||
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"I will win fast so I can go home early" | ||
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Only went out now. Fake lurker eggs on the sair scout lol | ||
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really bad engage trying to go on the 3rd by larva | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:33 Topdoller wrote: Lava looked depressed on that game Bisu looks bored. | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:22 Garrl wrote: i didn't mind so much when they started casting again, but if artosis mentions the differences between sc2 and bw again i'm finding the kr stream They mentioned a comparison just one time during the game...do you hate SC2 or something? | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:36 tanngard wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2016 19:22 Garrl wrote: i didn't mind so much when they started casting again, but if artosis mentions the differences between sc2 and bw again i'm finding the kr stream They mentioned a comparison just one time during the game...do you hate SC2 or something? Watch our english stream if you need a fresh commentary. :D http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2 | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:38 classicyellow83 wrote: larva was so confident with having over 80% win rate on Benzene and 100% vs Protoss. you can be really confident if you loss 2 drones to a zealot in your natural and then need to over produce lings you are already far from the ideal position then that moment when the first sair is killing overlords and your third has only 4 drones mining.yeah,you cant really do much. | ||
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shame on you ample. | ||
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This game lol | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:53 Garrl wrote: guemechi ![]() his name now is "IamMang" please respect it + Show Spoiler + kekekekekeke | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:53 Zera wrote: I cant believe observer missed that reaver dying ot mines :X The observer is Shine LOL | ||
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GuemChi's face in the end though | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:56 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: uff didnt expect guemchi to loss ,maybe larva will fall 0-2 afterall. Guemchi is screwed, larva has always had his number in these situations. I wanted this game though so I'm happy. | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:57 TheNewEra wrote: Ample has this easily now ![]() rofl yes :D | ||
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Edit: okay now ample doesn't like his... -_- what's happening? | ||
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"Now with this resurgerence Starcraft will be here for the rest of time" -Artosis | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:09 BLinD-RawR wrote: meanwhile Bisudagger talking about his expecting child and flashftw freaking out wow gratz bisudagger and wife ![]() | ||
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I'd tune in but Afreeca sticking to Flash player is annoying as fuck D: | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:12 DarkNetHunter wrote: Congrats to you Bisudagger! I'd tune in but Afreeca sticking to Flash player is annoying as fuck D: Did you try VLC? Bad excuse if you didn't try that yet. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/512913-guide-watch-afreeca-sc-bw-streams-with-vlc#1 Edit: nvm, u will need to manually modify it for it to work correctly | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:26 SkelA wrote: Holy BW still alive !?? Just saw the game on frontpage on Twitch. Havent been here in ages just on Liquiddota only in the past few years. Long time no see! Stork's group is playing the day after | ||
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But what's this? Bisu attacked a weak spot and Ample is suddenly fucked. GG | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:29 c3rberUs wrote: Dragoons do 20 explosive damage. It deals 100% damage to large units, 75% to medium and 50% to small. Vultures are medium-sized units. Of course! I am so overwhelmed with BW coming back I can't even remember the game itself - shame on me lol! | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:32 classicyellow83 wrote: Now Bisu is going out for a drink with Flash and Sea. IIRC Flash can really hold his drink. | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:33 Fish_Baguettes wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2016 20:29 c3rberUs wrote: Dragoons do 20 explosive damage. It deals 100% damage to large units, 75% to medium and 50% to small. Vultures are medium-sized units. Of course! I am so overwhelmed with BW coming back I can't even remember the game itself - shame on me lol! No harm done. Welcome back to BW mate. Lets go Guemchi! | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:33 Fish_Baguettes wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2016 20:29 c3rberUs wrote: Dragoons do 20 explosive damage. It deals 100% damage to large units, 75% to medium and 50% to small. Vultures are medium-sized units. Of course! I am so overwhelmed with BW coming back I can't even remember the game itself - shame on me lol! Nah it's no shame lol. Just enjoy the games | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:32 Peeano wrote: Bisu channeled his inner Best Don't recall him running a load of corsairs into scourge | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:35 usopsama wrote: This is definitely the OSL booth girl. They brought her in along with imba maps to try and take Bisu out. But you can't stop the man. | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:28 BLinD-RawR wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2016 20:26 SkelA wrote: Holy BW still alive !?? Just saw the game on frontpage on Twitch. Havent been here in ages just on Liquiddota only in the past few years. Long time no see! Stork's group is playing the day after Hey! I would love to watch it but will be at work... gonna check the vods ![]() | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:38 sixfour wrote: Don't recall him running a load of corsairs into scourge he flew them into hydras twice at least | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:26 SkelA wrote: Holy BW still alive !?? Just saw the game on frontpage on Twitch. Havent been here in ages just on Liquiddota only in the past few years. BW is now more alive than SC2 in Korea. It is a dream come true. | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:38 sixfour wrote: Don't recall him running a load of corsairs into scourge doh! | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:40 usopsama wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2016 20:26 SkelA wrote: Holy BW still alive !?? Just saw the game on frontpage on Twitch. Havent been here in ages just on Liquiddota only in the past few years. BW is now more alive than SC2 in Korea. It is a dream come true. I knew this will happen in 2012 just took long enough, too bad the passion is kinda gone. | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:43 SkelA wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2016 20:40 usopsama wrote: On December 04 2016 20:26 SkelA wrote: Holy BW still alive !?? Just saw the game on frontpage on Twitch. Havent been here in ages just on Liquiddota only in the past few years. BW is now more alive than SC2 in Korea. It is a dream come true. I knew this will happen in 2012 just took long enough, too bad the passion is kinda gone. God, Jaedong, Stork, and Bisu are all in Brood War now though. | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:48 Ej_ wrote: what's the point of taking that 3rd? Aren't horizontal natural bases further from each other than vertical ones? because 3 and 9 are harder to take/hold than 12 and 6 | ||
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On December 04 2016 19:56 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: uff didnt expect guemchi to loss ,maybe larva will fall 0-2 afterall. | ||
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Good job on Guemchi though, I'm rooting for Sasin/Ample to take him out now though! | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:51 classicyellow83 wrote: offline Larva gets so nerfed =/ yeah, disappointing | ||
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WTF WAS THAT REAVER YOU GOT FREE SHOT AND JUST DIED | ||
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On December 04 2016 20:38 sixfour wrote: Don't recall him running a load of corsairs into scourge Can't build scourge without a spire, didn't matter cuz Bisu still lost them carelessly to hydra's. Anyway, I was talking about his PvT macro ![]() | ||
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Did the harassment pay off? The aggression goes on | ||
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On December 04 2016 21:14 BLinD-RawR wrote: GUEMCHIIIIII WTF WAS THAT REAVER YOU GOT FREE SHOT AND JUST DIED reavers are known haters, they don't always play on your side | ||
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And I feel bad for Larva too. I really wanted him to win. You could see how frustrated he was with that loss. | ||
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On December 04 2016 21:40 Rainalcar wrote: Restream anywhere? Thanks Korean BisuDagger & FlaShFTW Tastosis | ||
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On December 04 2016 22:00 ZiggyPG wrote: Pity the studio was half empty though :/ I did not notice that, looked liked a pretty decent crowd for a ro24 to me? | ||
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On December 04 2016 22:11 tanngard wrote: I did not notice that, looked liked a pretty decent crowd for a ro24 to me? Come on, only half the seats were occupied, I was hoping the likes of Bisu would attract more people down to the studio. Still, plenty of time to go and draw more attention | ||
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Also no Tasteless TT but the one who is best to replace is Rapid. I fucking love his casting lol. And I think he's one of the rarest casters who got passion for game. | ||
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On December 05 2016 06:18 Harem wrote: Stop calling Ample "Anytime" and "Sasin" REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NORMIES. By the way, Bisudagger + Flashftw are great casters. I legit always have muted streams when I watch pro games like Starcraft and League of Legends but this is probably one of the first duos I really enjoy listening to. | ||
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On December 05 2016 06:18 Harem wrote: Stop calling Ample "Anytime" and "Sasin" REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Lol I never got to watch Anytime during his prime, but I felt exactly the same way too today whenever they said Sasin Maybe it's an Oz fan thing (rip my logo from the old site) | ||
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On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote: I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in. It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong. | ||
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On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote: I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in. It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong. Mhmm I wouldn't know about that. I'm not that good at BW ![]() ![]() | ||
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On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote: I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in. It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong. For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific? | ||
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On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote: I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in. It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong. For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific? Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual. Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base. There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now. | ||
Dante08
Singapore4121 Posts
On December 05 2016 13:49 LML wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote: On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote: I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in. It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong. For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific? Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual. Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base. There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now. Yeah I agree but it's 2016 and we still have a BW Starleague so I won't complain too much. | ||
LML
Germany1754 Posts
On December 05 2016 13:52 Dante08 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2016 13:49 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote: On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote: I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in. It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong. For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific? Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual. Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base. There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now. Yeah I agree but it's 2016 and we still have a BW Starleague so I won't complain too much. I mean, they are getting paid to cast these games, they could do their homework. Spend 2-3 days and watch a few games from the 2010-2011 ProLeague season on YT and you will see most of the builds already (coincidentally many maps are the same, so even better). They don't need to know what building to make at what supply count, but knowing basic stuff as mentioned above should really be mandatory. | ||
XenOsky
Chile2215 Posts
On December 05 2016 13:58 LML wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2016 13:52 Dante08 wrote: On December 05 2016 13:49 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote: On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote: I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in. It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong. For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific? Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual. Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base. There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now. Yeah I agree but it's 2016 and we still have a BW Starleague so I won't complain too much. I mean, they are getting paid to cast these games, they could do their homework. Spend 2-3 days and watch a few games from the 2010-2011 ProLeague season on YT and you will see most of the builds already (coincidentally many maps are the same, so even better). They don't need to know what building to make at what supply count, but knowing basic stuff as mentioned above should really be mandatory. i agree with everything you said good sir. i mean artosis was all the time saying that he loved bw so much back in the day, it wouldnt hurt him to play 30 games, watch 30 reps, watch a few streams, and get his shit right, is not that hard to relearn whats is standard and what is not, the difference between 9pool or overpool,etc. | ||
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England11061 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6505 Posts
On December 05 2016 15:50 XenOsky- wrote: well by miracle he was right about the circuit breakers game,is much better to take the mineral only vs 1 gate first.Show nested quote + On December 05 2016 13:58 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 13:52 Dante08 wrote: On December 05 2016 13:49 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote: On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote: I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in. It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong. For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific? Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual. Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base. There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now. Yeah I agree but it's 2016 and we still have a BW Starleague so I won't complain too much. I mean, they are getting paid to cast these games, they could do their homework. Spend 2-3 days and watch a few games from the 2010-2011 ProLeague season on YT and you will see most of the builds already (coincidentally many maps are the same, so even better). They don't need to know what building to make at what supply count, but knowing basic stuff as mentioned above should really be mandatory. i agree with everything you said good sir. i mean artosis was all the time saying that he loved bw so much back in the day, it wouldnt hurt him to play 30 games, watch 30 reps, watch a few streams, and get his shit right, is not that hard to relearn whats is standard and what is not, the difference between 9pool or overpool,etc. | ||
Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On December 05 2016 13:58 LML wrote: Show nested quote + On December 05 2016 13:52 Dante08 wrote: On December 05 2016 13:49 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 13:17 Bisu-Fan wrote: On December 05 2016 08:41 LML wrote: On December 05 2016 05:40 TheNewEra wrote: I feel like Artosis really stepped up his game knowledge in comparison to Season 1. It felt way better to listen to him today than in ASL1. Also Rapid is pretty good considering he is just subbing in. It was still super horrible to listen to due to them getting the most basic strategic stuff wrong. For example? I haven't watched BW in a while so I might just be willing to accept stuff they say. Care to share what basic strategy they had wrong? Was it matchup specific or like map specific? Things like proclaiming Larva was going 3 hatch muta in game 1 when he was having 1 gas and doing a standard spire rush to potentially kill any scouting corsairs. They even talked about it again later on as if the 3 hatch spire was something unusual. Another thing was Larva taking his 3rd vs IamMang on Circuit Breaker in the natural expansion of another base, claiming it was too far away or something from his main (probably wanted him to take the mineral only or 12 o'click). While this is pretty standard, due to the right sim city making it relatively easy to defend the early zealot ambush and giving the Zerg a free 4th base. There were a few others where I thought that it isn't quite right or nonsense but I don't recall the entire cast right now. Yeah I agree but it's 2016 and we still have a BW Starleague so I won't complain too much. I mean, they are getting paid to cast these games, they could do their homework. Spend 2-3 days and watch a few games from the 2010-2011 ProLeague season on YT and you will see most of the builds already (coincidentally many maps are the same, so even better). They don't need to know what building to make at what supply count, but knowing basic stuff as mentioned above should really be mandatory. yeah agreed, they have some wholes in their basic game knowledge, it would be relatively easy to be better informed for them. | ||
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