[News] Proleague Grand Final 2006 Rosters

On January 18 2007 07:35 Cpt Obvious wrote:
is that just me or is SKT's zerg and protoss line-up really that weak?
kingdom being the only exception, none of these players are quite in good shape right now or am i wrong about this?

gogo MBC fighting, thanks HonestTea anjd lol and the picture NeoIllusions!

On January 18 2007 07:08 muramasa wrote:
I'm pretty sure MBC is going to pull this out. Their team is just too deep. Especially since none of SKT T1's players are in top form right now, except for Midas.

On January 18 2007 07:35 Cpt Obvious wrote:
is that just me or is SKT's zerg and protoss line-up really that weak?
kingdom being the only exception, none of these players are quite in good shape right now or am i wrong about this?!

On January 18 2007 09:23 Wasabi wrote:


Agreed.

On January 18 2007 05:03 PoP wrote:
You guys shouldn't forget T1 hasn't ever lost a final. And they've been to many (and 4 in a row before MBC won 2006 round 2). :>

But yeah, MBC's the team to beat these days. They're definitely the favorites considering their current shape.

We could have some great great matchups anyway considering the players. Please please please not too many mirrors. :o

On January 19 2007 07:30 Orome wrote:
Assuming they are in form SKT1 looks stronger here, their Terran lineup is just too good.

Midas is almost a sure win for T1.

Oov isn't quite playing like his old self yet, but in a match such as this, I would also put him above every MBC player. Things like experience and nerves play a big role here.

The MBC Protosses are probably favoured against Canata, but that can go either way, July might be favoured as well, but don't forget Canata beat July in game 6 of the round 1 finals. I also like his TvT better than both Light's and Sea's.

Gorush is no slouch either and Kingdom is able to play amazing games.

As always, this will greatly depend on the matchups, but I see T1 as slightly favoured.

To those sure that MBC will win, answer me: What are MBC's answers to Midas and Oov? Who from MBC is favoured against Gorush?

On January 19 2007 11:47 Last Romantic wrote:
light/bisu/pusan/sea/july/saint is just a scary lineup.

On January 19 2007 13:23 Orome wrote:
Fakesteve: (btw, good to see you taking part in discussions again )

I don't see how Sea has a big advantage over Gorush. In the one series they played, Gorush won 2-1. Granted, Gorush isn't in his prime, but Sea hasn't been hot either. Also, why would Bisu be at an advantage over Gorush? If he was playing like last OSL, maybe, but he's far from that at the moment.

Bisu is MUCH better at PvZ than PvT. That loss to Iris is a little misleading, it was a big timing rush on Iris' part that Bisu really didn't prepare for. GoRush's 'Lair First Ask Questions Later' style in ZvP is effective I guess, but have you seen any games lately where GoRush gets at a disadvantage? He crumbles like stale bread. Bisu is amazing at putting lots of pressure on a Zerg player, so I'd put him as a favourite over GoRush easily. Even if he plays passively in the beginning, he's much better at digging himself out of holes.

I rarely ever watch 2v2's, so I can't really discuss that. From what I can remember, in the playoffs, 910[Ete]/TheZerg didn't look too convincing to me, but it's very possible I'm wrong. If MBC will indeed win both 2v2's, yeah, T1's situation suddenly looks a lot worse. Aren't Canata/Rumble or Rainbow/Rumble supposed to be good 2v2 teams as well?

Kingdom T_T Well, I suppose I'll have to agree. Still, we all know he's capable of beating any of those players, it's so frustrating. T_T

On January 19 2007 14:30 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Bisu is MUCH better at PvZ than PvT. That loss to Iris is a little misleading, it was a big timing rush on Iris' part that Bisu really didn't prepare for. GoRush's 'Lair First Ask Questions Later' style in ZvP is effective I guess, but have you seen any games lately where GoRush gets at a disadvantage? He crumbles like stale bread. Bisu is amazing at putting lots of pressure on a Zerg player, so I'd put him as a favourite over GoRush easily. Even if he plays passively in the beginning, he's much better at digging himself out of holes.

Sea lost that series against GoRush, yeah. That was a much different situation, though. Sea will have prepared builds on a specific map, to win one specific game, once. He is a crazy little bastard, and I guarantee any build he puts together will be too much for a conventional lair-style zerg like GoRush to handle.

On January 19 2007 14:46 Orome wrote:


I'm still not fully convinced, I think you're underestimating Gorush's management skills. Then again, PvZ is the mu I know by far the least about, so you could be right.



Well TvZ is a mu that's less dependant on builds (like TvT, where he had that crazy m&m build against Boxer last finals), but I have to admit, you're probably right. Damn you!

On January 19 2007 15:01 PoP wrote:
I've never really been convinced by Sea's TvZ actually. His micro is bleh and his builds are pretty uninspired usually.

Anyway he'll probably play on Blitz and I doubt T1 will send out a Z here.

I predict Sea vs Kingdom on Blitz in the first game btw.

On January 19 2007 15:33 Orome wrote:
It's Kingdom, you never know. I can still remember how he utterly beat the shit out of Nada on Blitz.

Anyway, I think there's a good chance Sea isn't going to play on Blitz. MBC Game openly said they would've used Sea on Blitz for ace because he's very strong there after the series against CJ. If they were really intending to use him there in the grand final, would they have said this? It might very well be a feint. I'll make a bold prediction and say he's going to be used on Tau Cross to snipe Midas.

On January 18 2007 09:20 Red_Dragon wrote:
It would be such a shame for T1 if they lose it (imo). They have forbidden their players to participate in both msl/osl at the same time (debatable). T1 coach is going to be crucified if MBC takes it ( especially if you take into consideration how long they are practicing for this) .

On January 19 2007 13:23 Orome wrote:
Plexa: Pusan und July definitely have the best chances, but to me they aren't favourites against Oov and Midas. Bisu IF he starts playing well, but that's like saying Kingdom's the counter to Light. It's unlikely they'll send Junitoss in a 1v1, seeing as Midas/Oov/Gorush are all great against P, but it's quite likely they'll send shark. That doesn't mean he has good chances to win though.

Oov a shadow of his former self is harsh. I haven't seen all his games lately, but the ones I did weren't bad, mostly him playing solidly and his opponents fucking up. There was also that game vs Much in Proleague that was apparently awesome. I just don't see how July (maybe) or especially Pusan are supposed to be favoured against him.

Canata has suffered from stage fright in the path, but looking at the last final he played in, where he won the decisive match against July, I'm not too worried. I really hope T1 will use Canata for a 1v1 and In_Dove for the 2v2 with Rumble.

Junitoss is a VERY valid option for 1v1.. Coach Ha comes up with some amazing play ideas, and last time these two titans met junitoss was pitted against Gorush on Old Peaks of Baekdu; and damn near took it.. he is playing, he will be a sniper

On January 19 2007 19:38 Gokey wrote:
4 hours 20 minutes left till kickoff!!!!!

On January 19 2007 20:30 kNyTTyM wrote:
but doesn't that mean the team has to predict who that person is going to play in order to make him prepare one map and one mu. what if they predict wrong?