EPTIm pretty noob with Liquipedia, and i have more then enough work already so i have no chance learning how to use liqupedia properly. I would be very thankful for any help. i will provide you with as most possible content.
Alchemy League with 200$ prize pool minimum - Page 6
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iamcasey
Norway202 Posts
Im pretty noob with Liquipedia, and i have more then enough work already so i have no chance learning how to use liqupedia properly. I would be very thankful for any help. i will provide you with as most possible content. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
Also #liquipedia @ Quake.net IRC (link @ Liquipedia Main Page for Webclient) | ||
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iamcasey
Norway202 Posts
On October 06 2014 21:24 GeckoXp wrote: What do you pay? Also #liquipedia @ Quake.net IRC (link @ Liquipedia Main Page for Webclient) The money i intend to spend on this event are going to the prizepool. I hope some people are willing to help out a little bit for the love of the game, the comunity and not demanding money for helping out. I understand it might be much work but i will be happy for any sort of help, i dont expect to much, but its wort a try atleast. Anyways, i wont pay anyone for helping. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
superior to public questions for the tournament. Not going to lie,the wiki code itself isn't the problem, it's the cheesy presentation and other related stuff, as can be seen in the history tab remarks by Chapa. | ||
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iamcasey
Norway202 Posts
On October 06 2014 22:38 GeckoXp wrote: http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=#liquipedia superior to public questions for the tournament. Not going to lie,the wiki code itself isn't the problem, it's the cheesy presentation and other related stuff, as can be seen in the history tab remarks by Chapa. Ah ok. I can understand why you would take money for something like that. To be honest, it would be really nice to have one for team, but im afraid it cant offer what you expect. Thx for the offer though | ||
ChapatiyaqPTSM
France1887 Posts
By an initiative of myself, this post was born. I wanted to explain how a page can get better by removing the fluff. Introduction Hi! I am ChapatiyaqPTSM, here to tell you things. "What can those things be?" you say. Well let me tell you. Just think about a standard Wikipedia page. Do you think people write like that in their articles? No. Same goes for Liquipedia. In this spoiler, is a quick analysis of the rest of the Liquipedia page  User:SynC(gm)/Alchemy League in its current state:+ Show Spoiler + Introduction Stick to the facts, remove the fluff. You can mention that part of the prize pool comes from donations, but Liquipedia is not a place to ask for donations (very close to advertising, so no-no). It's not a place to recruit people. Rules Rules are acceptable, but not necessary, really. Tournament Information Prize pool table -> OK Personal excitement -> not information Trying to recruit people again -> not information Asking for donations a little too much, again -> not information Schedule OK Map Pool OK Credits No credits because they are personal. An acceptable alternative is a table of the organization, mentioning each member and their role, as long as it is not too big. Racial Distribution OK External links OK The general idea is when writing for the main space of Liquipedia, you are not yourself, you are Liquipedia. That means no opinion, no personal shoutout, no first-person sentence. Stick to the information. Look at any other Liquipedia tournament page, and see how it is different from your page. Keep the personal things for the TL thread. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On October 07 2014 02:31 iamcasey wrote: Ah ok. I can understand why you would take money for something like that. To be honest, it would be really nice to have one for team, but im afraid it cant offer what you expect. Thx for the offer though What? This channel is for free help. You type your nickname and enter, ask question and get help live. The editing is up to you - or you can convince anyone to edit for you there. People in that channel are helpful. Not sure if serious or just a little too thick on your end about the money. | ||
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iamcasey
Norway202 Posts
On October 07 2014 03:01 GeckoXp wrote: What? This channel is for free help. You type your nickname and enter, ask question and get help live. The editing is up to you - or you can convince anyone to edit for you there. People in that channel are helpful. Not sure if serious or just a little too thick on your end about the money. I really have no idea how the quake.net/irc really works. And its not my top priority, i try to make a decent event with the limited knowledge i have of hosting events and manage everything that needs to be done, it was alot more then i expected. I would love to have a liquipedia, aswell as someone writing some news article. But my knowledge here is very limited, so i ask for help here at tl.net forum, i know there is people capable to help out, if they are willing to contribute is another question. But be sure, i wont start paying people to help me with this. ( Unless i asked for someone to do some really advanced work ) I spend my own money on this, alot of my time, and hopefully someone else decide to contribute aswell, for the love of BW and not for money. Thx for the offer, but this project is not so serious that i will start using money on a techcrew. I belive its possible to host this or some similar event every season, and even make a higher prizepool. Im willing to give it another try later, but it will require that i have more people helping me, cause atm this is to much time consuming, and if i diddent have as much spare time as i do atm, i would never be able to manage this. | ||
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iamcasey
Norway202 Posts
On October 07 2014 02:34 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote: The Idea By an initiative of myself, this post was born. I wanted to explain how a page can get better by removing the fluff. Introduction Hi! I am ChapatiyaqPTSM, here to tell you things. "What can those things be?" you say. Well let me tell you. Just think about a standard Wikipedia page. Do you think people write like that in their articles? No. Same goes for Liquipedia. In this spoiler, is a quick analysis of the rest of the Liquipedia page User:SynC(gm)/Alchemy League in its current state:+ Show Spoiler + Introduction Stick to the facts, remove the fluff. You can mention that part of the prize pool comes from donations, but Liquipedia is not a place to ask for donations (very close to advertising, so no-no). It's not a place to recruit people. Rules Rules are acceptable, but not necessary, really. Tournament Information Prize pool table -> OK Personal excitement -> not information Trying to recruit people again -> not information Asking for donations a little too much, again -> not information Schedule Understood. Though i need someone to help me make the liquipedia, or il have to wait until the event is done, there is no way i can find time to do this atm. OK Map Pool OK Credits No credits because they are personal. An acceptable alternative is a table of the organization, mentioning each member and their role, as long as it is not too big. Racial Distribution OK External links OK The general idea is when writing for the main space of Liquipedia, you are not yourself, you are Liquipedia. That means no opinion, no personal shoutout, no first-person sentence. Stick to the information. Look at any other Liquipedia tournament page, and see how it is different from your page. Keep the personal things for the TL thread. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
Forget about the payment part. If you go to the link I sent you, type in ANY nickname you'll findyourself in IRC. There you can ask ALL editors of ALL wikis to help you out. Seriously, it's as easy as it gets. Ordinary B-net is nothing but IRC with a different look. A monkey can do that. Maybe you find someone nice enough to clean up the page in the IRC chan. If that's too much for you, cause you're super busy with organizing this event, then you should reconsider if you really do organize at all. | ||
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iamcasey
Norway202 Posts
On October 07 2014 04:48 GeckoXp wrote: :stark: Forget about the payment part. If you go to the link I sent you, type in ANY nickname you'll findyourself in IRC. There you can ask ALL editors of ALL wikis to help you out. Seriously, it's as easy as it gets. Ordinary B-net is nothing but IRC with a different look. A monkey can do that. Maybe you find someone nice enough to clean up the page in the IRC chan. If that's too much for you, cause you're super busy with organizing this event, then you should reconsider if you really do organize at all. Thx for the tips, i have zero knowledge about this, so this is completly new for me. Regarding ime considering hosting or not, thats kinda to late. Il manage to do it, but the quality for the entire event depends on what help i manage to get. | ||
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
Casey, are there exact dates for when the ladder stage ends and when the group stage games are intended to be played? I see that you deleted the dates from the OP. Also... "If two or more players have the same amount of points, the player with the higher ladder qualification spot gets the higher numbered spot." I know the possibility isn't very high, but what if the two player had the same number of points during the group stage AND the ladder stage? Again, not a high chance, but I feel like you could use some clarification there, just in case... | ||
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iamcasey
Norway202 Posts
On October 07 2014 06:52 SynC[gm] wrote: Trying to clean up the Liquipedia page since I didn't even realize it was sent back to my userpage... Casey, are there exact dates for when the ladder stage ends and when the group stage games are intended to be played? I see that you deleted the dates from the OP. Also... "If two or more players have the same amount of points, the player with the higher ladder qualification spot gets the higher numbered spot." I know the possibility isn't very high, but what if the two player had the same number of points during the group stage AND the ladder stage? Again, not a high chance, but I feel like you could use some clarification there, just in case... I will update the thread tonight. If i dont misunderstand, are you offering to help out with the liquipedia ? I assume so, since you ask and you are the on who created the page ? I can PM you all info/content you want/need. ( Sorry if im misunderstanding you here ) Regarding two players have same points after ladderstage and group stage ( Wich is highly unlikely) i have not tought about this. Im open to suggestions. But i think we can make them select a number between 1-20 and closest one gets best seeding. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On October 07 2014 05:28 iamcasey wrote: Thx for the tips, i have zero knowledge about this, so this is completly new for me. Regarding ime considering hosting or not, thats kinda to late. Il manage to do it, but the quality for the entire event depends on what help i manage to get. One last reply to this: Edited. The IRC Channel would be a place to require help. It is not any different than adding someone via Skype and talk to him. Except there's a channel with 50+ knowledgeable people. Most won't play BW, but would help you out nonetheless. However, the attitude "I don't get that, nor do I have time to maybe fix one or two things on my own" won't help. That's the nature of things and that's one way to not treat potential helpers, if you want help. Aside from that, I fixed up the Wiki page and wrote Sync a PN. Be thankful you have Sync and treat him nice. It should be more than just doable to add results from here on out. To stress out what Chapa said again: The Wiki is not a tool you use to actively organize the event. Rules, asking for donations and shout outs (credits) do not belong there. Rules can be added if there is an exceptional reasoning behind it, e.g. if Koreans are prohibited from participating, or rules having an effect on the mode (see XSplit Random Invitational, Shout and Tell for Random 1v1). Yet, the Wiki can be used as helpful add-on to organizing. This means you can use it to distribute/display information. It is ok to have standing tables, grids and results there, but "not" in the thread (not recommended to leave out results there). That's partially how DRTL, TLS and others used it. But the main effort of judging cases, or whatnot, is done in the forums, via Skype or elsewhere. | ||
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DepressedOne
United States190 Posts
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iamcasey
Norway202 Posts
On October 08 2014 23:22 DepressedOne wrote: I am here to inform people that I will no longer be casting for the alchemy league. I wish the rest of the tourney goes well and that my departure is not a big deal. Unfortunately I'm too busy and I apologize for leaving and not being more well prepared. Obvious im looking for new casters.. Groupstage starting 2 November, Its possible to cast from replays instead of.live, w/e fits the caster | ||
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EndingLife
United States1570 Posts
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DepressedOne
United States190 Posts
On October 15 2014 00:53 EndingLife wrote: Ty2 was a pretty bad caster anyways. Eh hem. I presume our new caster has arrived. | ||
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EndingLife
United States1570 Posts
On October 15 2014 04:10 DepressedOne wrote: Eh hem. I presume our new caster has arrived. I think not. I got banned from the stream by Casey for asking why you were casting a game between a 210-300 record D+ and an A- player. | ||
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fearthequeen
United States785 Posts
On October 15 2014 08:27 EndingLife wrote: I think not. I got banned from the stream by Casey for asking why you were casting a game between a 210-300 record D+ and an A- player. banned? :D I was asking these same type of questions the couple times I watched. It would be something like Sziky vs 40% winrate D+ protoss. | ||
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