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WCG Poland Offline Finals!

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Spectacular
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada312 Posts
September 08 2006 06:04 GMT
#1
http://wcg.pl/Default.aspx?TabId=106&viewMore=1&ModuleId=192&ShowAnnId=384

Artur „Blackman” Michalak
Krzysztof „Draco” Nalepka
Krzysztof „Hullah” Sazon
Rafał „ParanOid” Kontowicz
Kamil „Fosken“ Sierocki
Piotr „MistrZ” Jaworski
Maciej „Raven” Polak
Dominik „Slider” Rogacki

and more....
Starting today, September 8.... until.. Sunday, I think.

Who'll win? (Only the winner goes to Italy)
k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
September 08 2006 06:17 GMT
#2
BM FTWWWWWWWWWW ZERG PRIDE
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
September 08 2006 06:18 GMT
#3
i hope no blackman vs raven shit anymore
SexyGG
Profile Joined May 2006
Bulgaria62 Posts
September 08 2006 06:22 GMT
#4
draco need to win
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
September 08 2006 06:25 GMT
#5
Too bad they only send one.

That's a pretty solid line up, but obviously Draco "should" win considering the fact that he's gone Pro.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
September 08 2006 06:25 GMT
#6
Only 1 is T_T considering Poland is one of the strongest non-kor countries, what a shame.

Anyways I guess I hope Draco since I think he'd be able to go further than anyone else.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Samejima
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada534 Posts
September 08 2006 06:32 GMT
#7
All good player but imo only Draco is a must for wcg, some will say Blackman but I don't. It's not like they have a linup of players like Russia, Germany or China can have where 2 or 3 players are a must. Only 1 players is a bit sad but not that much imo
What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized yet.
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 08 2006 06:42 GMT
#8
gogo
it will be a great wcg
i think this year will be a suprise
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 06:45:20
September 08 2006 06:45 GMT
#9
i wouldnt be THAT surprised if draco lost

imagine him sitting in the OGN Sparkyz practice house, "Hey GUUUUYS will you help me practice for my wcg"

and them saying "A korean will win it anyway shut up and play against Terato on Arcadia 2"
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
September 08 2006 06:57 GMT
#10
On September 08 2006 15:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i wouldnt be THAT surprised if draco lost

imagine him sitting in the OGN Sparkyz practice house, "Hey GUUUUYS will you help me practice for my wcg"

and them saying "A korean will win it anyway shut up and play against Terato on Arcadia 2"



haha yes... =) But even regarding that I think he played alot more then the others, even though not on the wcg maps very much
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
September 08 2006 07:02 GMT
#11
Blackman ftw!
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 08 2006 07:15 GMT
#12
Kamil gogo =)
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
September 08 2006 07:18 GMT
#13
On September 08 2006 15:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i wouldnt be THAT surprised if draco lost

imagine him sitting in the OGN Sparkyz practice house, "Hey GUUUUYS will you help me practice for my wcg"

and them saying "A korean will win it anyway shut up and play against Terato on Arcadia 2"


Fortunately a blind monkey could rape Terato mouse only, so Draco's duties are not that difficult.
ModeratorGodfather
ButterCake
Profile Joined November 2005
Thailand192 Posts
September 08 2006 07:33 GMT
#14
Blackman FTW!
plz
Ronin
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada92 Posts
September 08 2006 08:52 GMT
#15
Draco better win. I want a non-korean toss to take hom gold this year!
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
September 08 2006 09:01 GMT
#16
On September 08 2006 15:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i wouldnt be THAT surprised if draco lost

imagine him sitting in the OGN Sparkyz practice house, "Hey GUUUUYS will you help me practice for my wcg"

and them saying "A korean will win it anyway shut up and play against Terato on Arcadia 2"


haha yeah i imagined a similar scenario

Blackman should win this, i hope he DOES!
Piccolo
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Chile621 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 09:24:15
September 08 2006 09:23 GMT
#17
Hoping for Blackman (because i'm z) or Draco (because he has a beautiful PvZ) ! And for gg's!!

And Slider, Raven and Hullah are strong too! Never have seen a rep of MistrZ, ParanOid, Frosken, but they must be strong to be there too. GL to all.
You said wc3 was simpler than SC, wc3 is 3d, SC is 2d, therefore you can counter yourself.... OVazioFrio
Breavman
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden598 Posts
September 08 2006 10:08 GMT
#18
I would really really have liked to see both Blackman and Draco in wcg, but if it's only one then it must be Blackman!
Peyong
Profile Joined August 2006
Trinidad/Tobago119 Posts
September 08 2006 11:04 GMT
#19
I'd like to see

Draco
Blackman
Raven

in that order !!!
Sea, Sun and Sand
Piccolo
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Chile621 Posts
September 08 2006 11:25 GMT
#20
so when we will know the brackets? :3
You said wc3 was simpler than SC, wc3 is 3d, SC is 2d, therefore you can counter yourself.... OVazioFrio
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
September 08 2006 12:25 GMT
#21
On September 08 2006 17:52 Ronin wrote:
Draco better win. I want a non-korean toss to take hom gold this year!

julyzerg says no thanks.
-Centaurus-
Profile Joined August 2006
Russian Federation28 Posts
September 08 2006 15:25 GMT
#22
I want Draco to win this so bad . Cause he is my role protoss and I love watching his games.
iD.SquaLL
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Spain250 Posts
September 08 2006 16:15 GMT
#23
go Hullah!
Don't take offense, better make amends, rip it all to shreds and let it go
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
September 08 2006 16:25 GMT
#24
I will cheer for Artur like every year, even if Hullah is in my team. Draco is a nice good guy, but he got already a lot and for Artur it would be a holiday he deserves.
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 18:16:56
September 08 2006 17:54 GMT
#25
allow me to put the brackets from pol offline wcg here:
Hullah - Draco
Fosken - Slider
MistrZZZ - Blackman
Raven - ParanOid

http://www.pwl.pl/wcgp/index2.php?option=com_mls_tournaments&task=view_brackets&Itemid=3&tournamentid=34

thx to pwl
DieOut
Profile Joined September 2005
Lithuania57 Posts
September 08 2006 18:10 GMT
#26
Draco will win...
Team T.Sqd)
puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 18:16:14
September 08 2006 18:15 GMT
#27
On September 09 2006 02:54 ZlyKiss wrote:
allow me to put the brackets from pol online wcg here:
Hullah - Draco
Fosken - Slider
MistrZZZ - Blackman
Raven - ParanOid

http://www.pwl.pl/wcgp/index2.php?option=com_mls_tournaments&task=view_brackets&Itemid=3&tournamentid=34
thx to pwl

isnt ofline ? i think its olfine not online ...
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 08 2006 18:17 GMT
#28
Nice matches :d
A little comment from Me:
Hullah vs Draco.
Clearly winner here, Hullah isnt in his top shape and in macro war he lose this. I predict one or maybe even two risky strats/cheeses from Hullah.
Fosken vs Slider.
Very nice matchup, hard to say who will win, none of games will be cheeses. I say Fosken is the favourite cuz its ZvP and he trains sometimes with Siz protoss.
MistZZZ vs Blackman. Mistrz in PvZ - cheese mostly, MistrZZ vs Blackman - ya all cheeses ^^;
no favourit cuz of cheese, but i hope Blackman learned sth from previous WCG's and he will defend and overmacro MistrZZZ easily.
Raven vs Paranoid. Nice matchup here too. Paranoid plays ZvT Blackman style' so Raven should be preapred for it, but in the elims ParanOid won, lets see how it goes offline But I predict one risky strat/cheese from Raven.
GL all ! May the Draco win !
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 08 2006 18:17 GMT
#29
yeah offline ofcourse, my mistake...
[pG]Archi
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany354 Posts
September 08 2006 18:36 GMT
#30
bo3 or bo1 ?
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 08 2006 18:46 GMT
#31
bo3
Hullah - Draco 1-0 on Paranoid
Raven - ParanOid 1-0 on Gaia
Blackman - MistrZZZ 1-0 on Gaia (hard to cheese :D)
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
September 08 2006 18:50 GMT
#32
On September 09 2006 03:36 [pG]Archi wrote:
bo3 or bo1 ?


WB bo3 LB bo1.
[pG]Archi
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany354 Posts
September 08 2006 18:54 GMT
#33
Slider 2-1 Fosken
IamLove
Profile Joined October 2004
252 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 18:55:07
September 08 2006 18:54 GMT
#34
Where are SunCow, Spawn and Avernum?
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
September 08 2006 18:55 GMT
#35
On September 09 2006 03:46 Musli wrote:
bo3
Hullah - Draco 1-0 on Paranoid
Raven - ParanOid 1-0 on Gaia
Blackman - MistrZZZ 1-0 on Gaia (hard to cheese :D)


ur predictions or they are already playing?
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
September 08 2006 18:58 GMT
#36
On September 09 2006 03:55 mcmascote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 03:46 Musli wrote:
bo3
Hullah - Draco 1-0 on Paranoid
Raven - ParanOid 1-0 on Gaia
Blackman - MistrZZZ 1-0 on Gaia (hard to cheese :D)


ur predictions or they are already playing?



playing lol.
Zibi-T
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland85 Posts
September 08 2006 18:59 GMT
#37
On September 09 2006 03:55 mcmascote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 03:46 Musli wrote:
bo3
Hullah - Draco 1-0 on Paranoid
Raven - ParanOid 1-0 on Gaia
Blackman - MistrZZZ 1-0 on Gaia (hard to cheese :D)


ur predictions or they are already playing?

They're already playing.
rain~
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany461 Posts
September 08 2006 18:59 GMT
#38
Slider gogo
Football <3 1.FCM <3 BVB <3
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
September 08 2006 18:59 GMT
#39
it will be nice someone to post rep link here

BTW my favourite for winner is Paranoid.
Toldi fan.
tvt msg me anytime
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 19:01:15
September 08 2006 19:00 GMT
#40
On September 09 2006 03:54 IamLove wrote:
Where are SunCow, Spawn and Avernum?


Didn't qualify. And I don't think Spawn or Avernum even played.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 08 2006 19:01 GMT
#41
On September 09 2006 03:54 IamLove wrote:
Where are SunCow, Spawn and Avernum?

Suncow's plane was going to leave around the time he had to play the WCG pol online thing, so he asked the others to play him ealrier. Of course, he just HAD to disrespect one of the people he was playing who then decided that he wasn't going to play him earlier, and therefore suncow was disqualified (because it would be unfair towards the two people who played and lost vs him to have those games count when the guy who refused got a free win).

Spawn didn't qualify I guess and avernum didn't play? Or didn't qualify at least.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 19:04:28
September 08 2006 19:03 GMT
#42
Slider 2 - 1 Fosken
replays mostly live on www.netwars.pl/replay.php
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 08 2006 19:04 GMT
#43
Draco vs Hullah 2-1
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 19:13 GMT
#44
Avernum didn't play this year. Replays are being uploaded almost immediatelly after games @ netwars.pl, like someone already mentioned. There's also a live radio, but it's in Polish, so I guess you don't really care ; )
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
September 08 2006 19:14 GMT
#45
Yeah, GO Draco!!!
[pG]Archi
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany354 Posts
September 08 2006 19:17 GMT
#46
Hullah 1-2 Draco
Fosken 1-2 Slider
MistrZZZ 0-1 Blackman
Raven 2-0 ParanOid
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 08 2006 19:17 GMT
#47
Hey Spike, im not 'someone' :D
Now Draco vs Slider, testing their PvP.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
September 08 2006 19:26 GMT
#48
para wtf
tvt msg me anytime
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
September 08 2006 19:41 GMT
#49
On September 09 2006 03:50 SF)CruiseR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 03:36 [pG]Archi wrote:
bo3 or bo1 ?


WB bo3 LB bo1.



oh, sorry it seems to be WB bo3 and LB bo3 too.
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
September 08 2006 19:45 GMT
#50
it's a shame they played these in version 1.13f... god knows why?? i want to watch these reps =/
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 08 2006 19:46 GMT
#51
Hullah 2-0 Fosken.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 08 2006 19:47 GMT
#52
try watch it with pinguin
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 08 2006 19:47 GMT
#53
they played it on 1.14 lol.
just use bwlauncher and penguinplug on -.-
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
StreaK
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada580 Posts
September 08 2006 19:54 GMT
#54
go Raven!
1a2a3a
Piccolo
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Chile621 Posts
September 08 2006 20:06 GMT
#55
thinks can't be better for the vampire :D .All the rest of Z in looser brackets.

go fucking prince of darkness *0*
You said wc3 was simpler than SC, wc3 is 3d, SC is 2d, therefore you can counter yourself.... OVazioFrio
africanboy
Profile Joined July 2006
Korea (South)453 Posts
September 08 2006 20:08 GMT
#56
blackman will win
espoto@hotmail.com -add me
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 08 2006 20:16 GMT
#57
2-0 for BlackMan wasnt true, they have just begun third game (1-1)
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 20:20 GMT
#58
Well, MistrZZZ is playing random, it seems ;- )
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 08 2006 20:21 GMT
#59
BM to loser bracket
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 20:21 GMT
#60
MistrZZZ T > Blackman Z

"TomsOn who obsed that game is in shock"
rain~
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany461 Posts
September 08 2006 20:22 GMT
#61
wow now blackman has hard fight zvz
Football <3 1.FCM <3 BVB <3
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
September 08 2006 20:22 GMT
#62
Mistrzzz played Random and got T, while his mainrace is P.

From what i heard from radiostream Mistrz did MM rush.
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 08 2006 20:29 GMT
#63
BM vs ParanOid
master vs his padawan ;]
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
September 08 2006 20:34 GMT
#64
Some guys on the bulgarian IRC channel saying that Mistrzzz is sYs. Is that true?
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
September 08 2006 20:35 GMT
#65
No.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 20:37 GMT
#66
That gaia game between Fosken and Hullah is pure art.
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 08 2006 20:38 GMT
#67
MistrZZZ is one and only, the living legend of Toss mastery
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 20:38 GMT
#68
http://pwl.pl/bracket.html
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 20:39 GMT
#69
BM > Paranoid @ Gaia
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
September 08 2006 20:40 GMT
#70
Draco 1:0 Slider.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 20:40 GMT
#71
Draco > Slider @ ???
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 20:41 GMT
#72
Paranoid > Blackman @ ???
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
September 08 2006 20:43 GMT
#73
On September 09 2006 05:38 True_Spike wrote:
http://pwl.pl/bracket.html

Thank you! I love simple things!!!
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 20:43 GMT
#74
Draco is proxy-gating at Slider's base.
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
September 08 2006 20:43 GMT
#75
Blackman 1:1 Paranoid

go bm!
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
September 08 2006 20:43 GMT
#76
Map?:p
It takes a fool to remain sane.
StreaK
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada580 Posts
September 08 2006 20:44 GMT
#77
pa probally the draco
1a2a3a
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 20:56:20
September 08 2006 20:46 GMT
#78
6 Draco's zealots vs 3 Slider's zealots... shield battery up for Slider... Draco's retreating... Starts building gas... both harrasing each other... Draco lost his 2proxy-gate-powering pylon... Draco has the 1st goon, starts building range. Slider just started gathering gas, but has a higher zeal count... starts building core... Draco is outmicroing Slider with his goon army, Slider retreats... Draco starts his robotic facility... Draco is again outmicroing Slider's army, shesh... Draco made his way up Slider's ramp, but retreated; he's playing it safe, it seems. He starts his expo, 2 more gates, maintains his contain. 2 more gates up for Draco... Slider pretty much lost it by now, but he doesn't give up. Robotic support up for Slider. Draco placed a few goons @ his mineral line... Slider didn't do any dmg at all... Draco retreated to his expo, Slider moved out with his army... Slider harrased Draco's probes a bit with his reavers, but Draco still has a working expo and proceeds to further outmacro him... Slider ran away with a 6hp Shuttle, huh... Slider attempts to pass the huge bridge, but Draco is already waiting for him there... GG
T-BoT[pL]
Profile Joined May 2005
Poland241 Posts
September 08 2006 20:46 GMT
#79
Mistrz > Blackman 2:1 eh
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
September 08 2006 20:49 GMT
#80
On September 09 2006 05:38 True_Spike wrote:
http://pwl.pl/bracket.html


thanks a lot!

and go draco!!!
Tur0k
Profile Joined May 2005
Czech Republic61 Posts
September 08 2006 20:50 GMT
#81
On September 09 2006 05:37 True_Spike wrote:
That gaia game between Fosken and Hullah is pure art.


WOW!
StreaK
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada580 Posts
September 08 2006 20:50 GMT
#82
Raven going to win.
1a2a3a
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
September 08 2006 20:55 GMT
#83
zealot rush on PA (blackman displayed the poorest amount of micro ever)
m&m rush on azalea (blackman made 3 sunkens and a few dumb lings vs like 12 marines 2 bat 4 medic)
Moderator
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 20:56 GMT
#84
On September 09 2006 05:46 True_Spike wrote:
6 Draco's zealots vs 3 Slider's zealots... shield battery up for Slider... Draco's retreating... Starts building gas... both harrasing each other... Draco lost his 2proxy-gate-powering pylon... Draco has the 1st goon, starts building range. Slider just started gathering gas, but has a higher zeal count... starts building core... Draco is outmicroing Slider with his goon army, Slider retreats... Draco starts his robotic facility... Draco is again outmicroing Slider's army, shesh... Draco made his way up Slider's ramp, but retreated; he's playing it safe, it seems. He starts his expo, 2 more gates, maintains his contain. 2 more gates up for Draco... Slider pretty much lost it by now, but he doesn't give up. Robotic support up for Slider. Draco placed a few goons @ his mineral line... Slider didn't do any dmg at all... Draco retreated to his expo, Slider moved out with his army... Slider harrased Draco's probes a bit with his reavers, but Draco still has a working expo and proceeds to further outmacro him... Slider ran away with a 6hp Shuttle, huh... Slider attempts to pass the huge bridge, but Draco is already waiting for him there... GG


Draco 2-0 Slider @ PA
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 08 2006 20:57 GMT
#85
Yeah, Blackman isnt enough good to win WCG PL again imo.
And he just lost vs ParanOid 1-2 ZvZ and he is out.

Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 20:57 GMT
#86
Paranoid 2-1 Blackman, BM out of the tournament.
pdk001
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)922 Posts
September 08 2006 20:58 GMT
#87
i hope blackman to goes to italy this year, i think he is one of the fastest hand outside of korea
Learning english is as difficult as becoming a progamer in korea
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
September 08 2006 20:58 GMT
#88
go para
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Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 08 2006 20:59 GMT
#89
APM means shit ;]
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:01:21
September 08 2006 20:59 GMT
#90
Well, blackman averaged on 350-400 APM in his games, but he didnt really deserve to win this year. Pretty poor performance from him. Hullah is the 'slowest' player here, the only one with APM below 200... but like Musli said - it means nothing, really.
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
September 08 2006 21:02 GMT
#91
Paranoid plays a lot of games in Fragbet league vs strong opp, i think he plays for POL A too.
This means he must be in quite a shape.Probably the toughest Draco opponent. and i am not suprised he beated BM This is just my own opinion
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 21:02 GMT
#92
Raven > Mistrzzz @ ???
Ido
Profile Joined November 2005
Germany661 Posts
September 08 2006 21:03 GMT
#93
Blackman
Asjo
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Denmark664 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:05:06
September 08 2006 21:03 GMT
#94
Man, a good zerg is so beautiful to watch. And first nOtforu cannot go because of visa problems, then SunCow due to scheduling and now Blackman is eliminated!

I especially keep in mind that these zergs could have been matches up against the two Korean terrans, which would make for beautiful matches in one of the most active match-ups. I hope not to see a lot of protoss vs terran now, which isn't quite as entertaining.
I am not sure what to say
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 21:05 GMT
#95
BM vs Paranoid and Draco vs Slider replays up @ netwars.pl (you can use the bracket I gave you earlier, too).
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 08 2006 21:06 GMT
#96
OMG no Blackman is out
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 08 2006 21:06 GMT
#97
well, Draco is going to win it all anyway :D
but lets see how it goes.
ParanOid is in Pol-B, but it deosnt matter now since POLA = POLB in skill atm.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 21:06 GMT
#98
Counter Strike players shout like retards in the background...
T-BoT[pL]
Profile Joined May 2005
Poland241 Posts
September 08 2006 21:06 GMT
#99
he is out cause his performance wasnt as good as 1 year ago
ToT)MidiaN(
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
September 08 2006 21:06 GMT
#100
despite how "fast" blackman is, his control is awful. he doesn't even have the macro he once had and his strategies were not good either ;/ he didn't deserve to win. i would be very surprised if draco doesn't take this down
Nothing worth doing is devoid of risk
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
September 08 2006 21:07 GMT
#101
i guess u r right musli
my favourite polish players are/was at POL B - Toldi Paranoid Gohan
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:11:39
September 08 2006 21:11 GMT
#102
Raven vs Mistrzzz, 2nd game began. MistrZZZ AGAIN refuses to give vision to the WCG/Radio obs, like he refused in the last game vs Blackman (R O T F L).
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
September 08 2006 21:12 GMT
#103
all these posted reps do not run correctly for me. ReXplorer says they're 1.13f... how is it that you guys can watch them corruption free?
[pG]Archi
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany354 Posts
September 08 2006 21:12 GMT
#104
Gogo Raven!
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:13:42
September 08 2006 21:13 GMT
#105
L!MP - www.bwprogrammers.com - > Download the newest BWLauncher, run BroodWar with it. Enjoy the replays.

Oh, and MistrZZZ picked P this time, didn't random. I don't really understand why he's refusing to give vision to the observer.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:24:54
September 08 2006 21:14 GMT
#106
Raven lost his wall-in supply depot... but managed to defend himself. Raven is going for 2fac vult I believe... mines upgrade finished for Raven... No tanks for Raven, he proceeds to outmicro Mistrzzz with pure vultures, keeps him in check that way, since he doesn't have any observers yet... Expo is building for Mistrzzz PROBABLY (remember, we don't have his vision!). Expo up for Raven... Raven is moving out, probably he'll attempt to contain his opponent... Raven lost his force, but managed to kill a few probes, he's retreating with whatever left... 2 more factories up for Raven... MistrZZZ is attacking Raven's expo, but had to retreat after killing a few mines and a single turret... 5th Factory up for raven (2 out of 5 with add-ons)... Mistrzz dropped a reaver in Raven's army, but failed to do any dmg, lost a few goons as well... Raven proceeds further with his push... and further... Raven scanned Mistrzzz stargates, both armies clash a few moments after. Mistrzz was forced to retreat.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:17:44
September 08 2006 21:16 GMT
#107
On September 09 2006 06:03 Asjo wrote:
Man, a good zerg is so beautiful to watch. And first nOtforu cannot go because of visa problems, then SunCow due to scheduling and now Blackman is eliminated!

I especially keep in mind that these zergs could have been matches up against the two Korean terrans, which would make for beautiful matches in one of the most active match-ups. I hope not to see a lot of protoss vs terran now, which isn't quite as entertaining.

Suncow, blackman and notforu would have all been CRUSHED vs midas or oov, I mean, CRUSHED. Not beaten, but destroyed-.- Games would probably last about 10 minutes..

And Mistrizzz is an idiot, they should force him to give vision.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
T-BoT[pL]
Profile Joined May 2005
Poland241 Posts
September 08 2006 21:19 GMT
#108
FrozenArbiter who do You think can stand a long game vs oov?
JohnnyCash
Profile Joined February 2006
France244 Posts
September 08 2006 21:19 GMT
#109
Midas ?
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
September 08 2006 21:20 GMT
#110
Draco can for sure.Actually he once won a game over oov on Requiem
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Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 08 2006 21:20 GMT
#111
I'm trying to keep the brackets updated at http://pwl.pl/bracket.html.
You can see the graphical version at http://www.pwl.pl/wcgp/index2.php?option=com_mls_tournaments&task=view_brackets&Itemid=3&tournamentid=34.
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
September 08 2006 21:20 GMT
#112
so thats it ....... me and Draco can
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baelrog
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria705 Posts
September 08 2006 21:21 GMT
#113
On September 09 2006 06:19 T-BoT[pL] wrote:
FrozenArbiter who do You think can stand a long game vs oov?


JULY!!!11
i love u
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
September 08 2006 21:22 GMT
#114
On September 09 2006 06:20 Da_PlayerX wrote:
Draco can for sure.Actually he once won a game over oov on Requiem


That was a fake
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
September 08 2006 21:22 GMT
#115
how many spots are there for poland?
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 21:22 GMT
#116
Just one.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
September 08 2006 21:23 GMT
#117
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
[pG]Archi
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany354 Posts
September 08 2006 21:23 GMT
#118
On September 09 2006 06:14 True_Spike wrote:
Raven lost his wall-in supply depot... but managed to defend himself. Raven is going for 2fac vult I believe... mines upgrade finished for Raven... No tanks for Raven, he proceeds to outmicro Mistrzzz with pure vultures, keeps him in check that way, since he doesn't have any observers yet... Expo is building for Mistrzzz PROBABLY (remember, we don't have his vision!). Expo up for Raven... Raven is moving out, probably he'll attempt to contain his opponent... Raven lost his force, but managed to kill a few probes, he's retreating with whatever left... 2 more factories up for Raven... MistrZZZ is attacking Raven's expo, but had to retreat after killing a few mines and a single turret... 5th Factory up for raven (2 out of 5 with add-ons)... Mistrzz dropped a reaver in Raven's army, but failed to do any dmg, lost a few goons as well... Raven proceeds further with his push.


Thanks for updates , btw which map are they playing?
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:25:03
September 08 2006 21:23 GMT
#119
On September 09 2006 06:19 T-BoT[pL] wrote:
FrozenArbiter who do You think can stand a long game vs oov?

Terrans or tosses.

LX, Draco, white-ra

Phoenix, Androide, Ex

But I don't think they will win, just better chances than zerg users -.-
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
September 08 2006 21:23 GMT
#120
On September 09 2006 06:22 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
how many spots are there for poland?


One.

After Raven vs MistrZZZ is there anymore games for today?
It takes a fool to remain sane.
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 08 2006 21:23 GMT
#121
not enough
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 21:24 GMT
#122
All games are going to be played today.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 21:25 GMT
#123
On September 09 2006 06:14 True_Spike wrote:
Raven lost his wall-in supply depot... but managed to defend himself. Raven is going for 2fac vult I believe... mines upgrade finished for Raven... No tanks for Raven, he proceeds to outmicro Mistrzzz with pure vultures, keeps him in check that way, since he doesn't have any observers yet... Expo is building for Mistrzzz PROBABLY (remember, we don't have his vision!). Expo up for Raven... Raven is moving out, probably he'll attempt to contain his opponent... Raven lost his force, but managed to kill a few probes, he's retreating with whatever left... 2 more factories up for Raven... MistrZZZ is attacking Raven's expo, but had to retreat after killing a few mines and a single turret... 5th Factory up for raven (2 out of 5 with add-ons)... Mistrzz dropped a reaver in Raven's army, but failed to do any dmg, lost a few goons as well... Raven proceeds further with his push... and further... Raven scanned Mistrzzz stargates, both armies clash a few moments after. Mistrzz was forced to retreat.


Arbiters up for Mistrzzz... didn't do anything. Raven 2-0 Mistrzzz.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:26:27
September 08 2006 21:25 GMT
#124
Raven vs Draco in a few moments, WB final. All the LB games should start any moment, too.
puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
September 08 2006 21:26 GMT
#125
I think the system would be much better if the finals in each country for wcg were like this : format all vs all bo3... i dont talk only for poland i mean all countries where in the finals are playing 8 ppl... what do u think ?
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
September 08 2006 21:27 GMT
#126
raven 2-0 mistrzzzz
[pG]Archi
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany354 Posts
September 08 2006 21:28 GMT
#127
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote:
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D


BM was unlucky in his games, he has already proven his skills. Sorry but you don't know shit about blackman and suddenly state that blackman sucks.
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
September 08 2006 21:29 GMT
#128
if there are only 8 people bo3 is fine otherwise its not too good
tvt msg me anytime
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 21:29 GMT
#129
Raven vs Mistrzzz replays up @ netwars.pl
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
September 08 2006 21:30 GMT
#130
great job super admin 10x
tvt msg me anytime
Da_PlayerX
Profile Joined January 2006
Bulgaria1304 Posts
September 08 2006 21:31 GMT
#131
always a pleasure to watch the "good old polish masters"
tvt msg me anytime
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:34:08
September 08 2006 21:32 GMT
#132
On September 09 2006 06:28 [pG]Archi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote:
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D


BM was unlucky in his games, he has already proven his skills. Sorry but you don't know shit about blackman and suddenly state that blackman sucks.


He didnt said blackman sucks, read again.. He said blackman dont have any chances vs the koreans, and thats true.. me and probably 90% of this board would agree with him...
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 21:34 GMT
#133
It's not that Artur got unlucky (altough his games were indeed pretty short)... but he really was in no shape to win WCG, at least not today.
puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
September 08 2006 21:34 GMT
#134
Btw i think Draco has the spoot already, he can be kicked out only if he meet some of the zergs in the final!
Piccolo
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Chile621 Posts
September 08 2006 21:36 GMT
#135
;O;

now WCG will be tasteless to me...
You said wc3 was simpler than SC, wc3 is 3d, SC is 2d, therefore you can counter yourself.... OVazioFrio
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 21:38 GMT
#136
TM vs Mistrzzz LB
Slider vs Paranoid LB
Draco vs Raven WB

No idea about 1st maps though.
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
September 08 2006 21:39 GMT
#137
rep pack so far
Sheriff
Profile Joined May 2005
Belgium26 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:49:55
September 08 2006 21:41 GMT
#138
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
September 08 2006 21:49 GMT
#139
That usually means it's corrupted, what replay you tried to view?
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Sheriff
Profile Joined May 2005
Belgium26 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 22:02:39
September 08 2006 21:51 GMT
#140
Its fixed already, the reps draco vs hullah from netwars didnt work for me but from the rep pack school_victim posted they work so np.

True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 21:52:42
September 08 2006 21:52 GMT
#141
Redownload the replay, I guess. Each one of them works for sure.

Oh, good.
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
September 08 2006 21:56 GMT
#142
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote:
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D


impressiv how stupid some ppl are
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
September 08 2006 22:01 GMT
#143
On September 09 2006 06:56 Ilvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote:
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D


impressiv how stupid some ppl are


Let's be all real now, Blackman was Godly good back in those days where he got 3rd at WCG. Nowadays he cannot compete against top koreans, IMO, his level is not the same, and as someone said before, his level wasn't up to par to win wcg. .

BM ruled. yes...he did .
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 08 2006 22:01 GMT
#144
On September 09 2006 06:56 Ilvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote:
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D


impressiv how stupid some ppl are

Ilvy, blackman - or any other zerg - obviously doesn't have any chance vs Midas, Iloveoov and Julyzerg
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
September 08 2006 22:02 GMT
#145
any updates on the games?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
T-BoT[pL]
Profile Joined May 2005
Poland241 Posts
September 08 2006 22:03 GMT
#146
Arbiter - no, u are not right, Mondragon took july zvz
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 22:04:05
September 08 2006 22:03 GMT
#147
On September 09 2006 07:03 T-BoT[pL] wrote:
Arbiter - no, u are not right, Mondragon took july zvz

Many, many years ago, in a game that meant nothing.

Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 22:05 GMT
#148
On September 09 2006 07:02 meRz wrote:
any updates on the games?


None of them started yet.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
September 08 2006 22:05 GMT
#149
Blackman wouldn't stand a chance against any Korean top terran. And I wouldn't want blackman at this WCG anyway, I'd rather see raven or draco on WCG.
Moderator
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 22:06 GMT
#150
There were 2 interviews made (with blackman and draco) - they will be made available after WCG.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 22:07 GMT
#151
Seems I was wrong.

MIstrzzz > TM @ ???
Silent_Marine
Profile Joined April 2005
Vietnam281 Posts
September 08 2006 22:09 GMT
#152
Raven vs Draco ... go Raven , for glory of Terran ...
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 22:09:58
September 08 2006 22:09 GMT
#153
No, just 1-0 for now. Losers' are best of 3.

EDIT: That was for Spike's post.
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 22:10 GMT
#154
I meant a single game, just didn't know the map they played on.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 22:21:49
September 08 2006 22:12 GMT
#155
Raven vs Draco starts. Blackman is obsing, someone else is shoutcasting ;- ) The map is Gaia. Draco (P) spawned @ 2 o'clock, Raven (T) spawned @ 7 o'clock. Raven's playing without a wall-in, Draco is starting his range, 1 zealot is going to Raven's main, but he has scvs & rines on his ramp. Nevertheless, Raven lost 2 rines, Draco ran away with a one digit hp value zealot. Nothing interesting happening so far. Draco starts his robotic facility and 2nd gate, raven scouted this with an scv. Draco attempted to go up Raven's ramp, but was forced to retreat.
Raven starts his expo, observer up for Draco. Raven has a startport with an add-on, but he doesnt build anything yet, except for this 2nd factory. Draco moving out. Lost one zeealot, killed 2 tanks. Neat!
3rd expo up for Draco, g2g for a bit, so no updates anymore unless someone else does them / I come back. Sorry guys!
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 08 2006 22:20 GMT
#156
gl raven i belive in you
exmad
Profile Joined April 2005
Poland2 Posts
September 08 2006 22:22 GMT
#157
here u have full bracket being updated quite often: bracket
exmad
Profile Joined April 2005
Poland2 Posts
September 08 2006 22:23 GMT
#158
here is full vracket: link
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 08 2006 22:27 GMT
#159
MistrZZZ 1-1 TM
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 08 2006 22:28 GMT
#160
Answering Spike, 1-0 PA, 1-1 Azalea.
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 08 2006 22:29 GMT
#161
Slider 2-0 Paranoid
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 08 2006 22:31 GMT
#162
Replays are updated in the bracket link (http://pwl.pl/bracket.html)
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 22:38:52
September 08 2006 22:34 GMT
#163
I'm back, missed me?
Raven has economical advantage, it seems. Draco has a few carriers. Draco has a few goons, a couple carriers, 2 stormers. Raven has a mix of factory units. Fighting on the middle...
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 22:39 GMT
#164
Hullah 2-1 MistrZZZ LB
Asjo
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Denmark664 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 23:11:39
September 08 2006 22:39 GMT
#165
If there's only one spot for Poland, I guess there's no point in me mourning the good zergs. Draco deserves the spot anyway. I'd like to think that nOtforu could last at least 15 min. against the Koreans, though :o

I mean, I'd hate it if the first siege tanks would kill notfOru (or a bunker rush), but that's what would be interesting to see - how he can resist. At least sEn, another brilliant zerg not being able to go as well (due to lack of qualifier) would have a chance.
I am not sure what to say
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 22:40:23
September 08 2006 22:40 GMT
#166
i <3 polish wcg ^^
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 22:40 GMT
#167
Slider vs Paranoid replays up @ netwars.pl, if you havent noticed already.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 22:40 GMT
#168
Draco > Raven @ Gaia
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
September 08 2006 22:42 GMT
#169
gj draco.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 22:42 GMT
#170
TM vs Mistrzzz reps up @ netwars.pl
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 23:07:45
September 08 2006 22:43 GMT
#171
Raven vs Draco 2nd game starts now @ PA. Draco spawns at 12, Raven's location I will keep a secret from you. Nothing interesting so far, except for Draco's zealot attacking Raven together with a probe, scv is reparing the supply depot, so no worries mates. 2 zealots at raven's wall-in. Raven starts building his factory; made a rine. 3 scv's reparing the wall-in. Goon came, but Raven made a bunker near his wall-in forcing Draco to retreat. No range for Draco yet, he keeps one of his goons near the mineral line, in case of a drop, I guess. Raven scouted Draco with a rine, Draco started building robo once he killed it. Both have a lot of workers, satuartion level is okey-dokey. Raven is building a supply depot in Dracos natural, delaying his expo a bit. Draco is double expoing, Ravens CC lands at his natural. Draco just lost 2 observers in a very gay way. Raven builds 2 more factories (a total of 3 vs Draco's 5 gates). Raven is once again delaying Draco's expo a bit with an scv. The brave worker dies and Draco starts building his 4th expo. Raven camps at his main. More factories, More expo's... *yawn*...Raven dropped 4 vulturs in Draco's main, microed a bit, killed a few probes, a few zealots, but it wasn't something really noteworthy... And another 4 vult drop. Raven starts his 4th expo. Draco is starting to build carriers - again. Deja vu; I need a coffee. 3rd stargate up for Draco. Raven begins his cloack tech - HE KNOWS! Please macro some more, it's not boring enough yet. Arbiter tribunal up for Draco. Just some little fights here and there... Raven's half of the map is full of turrets. Draco's attacking Raven's main with his carriers, he kills a couple of turrets / buildings, ran away from the wraiths. Both players seem to be waiting for all of the minerals disappear from the map or the end of the world, whichever comes faster.
Draco recalled his army to Raven's main. Factories are being destroyed. Raven lost most of this wraiths, Draco has 4 carriers, 3 of them have been lockdowned by Raven, but he has no anti-air units to kill them with.
Silent_Marine
Profile Joined April 2005
Vietnam281 Posts
September 08 2006 22:45 GMT
#172
No .... raven make comeback win 2-1 plz >.<
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
September 08 2006 22:47 GMT
#173
On September 09 2006 07:45 Silent_Marine wrote:
No .... raven make comeback win 2-1 plz >.<


Even if he loses he can still come back with th LB
Silent_Marine
Profile Joined April 2005
Vietnam281 Posts
September 08 2006 22:50 GMT
#174
Yes , but lost in WB and go LB I thought his spirit will low ( bad at English T.T )
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 08 2006 23:03 GMT
#175
cool True_Spike go on
Silent_Marine
Profile Joined April 2005
Vietnam281 Posts
September 08 2006 23:07 GMT
#176
I thought if thiss game still go on like this , who keep 7 o'clock expo is winner ... Raven is at 2 , good to get 7 expo
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 23:08 GMT
#177
On September 09 2006 07:43 True_Spike wrote:
Raven vs Draco 2nd game starts now @ PA. Draco spawns at 12, Raven's location I will keep a secret from you. Nothing interesting so far, except for Draco's zealot attacking Raven together with a probe, scv is reparing the supply depot, so no worries mates. 2 zealots at raven's wall-in. Raven starts building his factory; made a rine. 3 scv's reparing the wall-in. Goon came, but Raven made a bunker near his wall-in forcing Draco to retreat. No range for Draco yet, he keeps one of his goons near the mineral line, in case of a drop, I guess. Raven scouted Draco with a rine, Draco started building robo once he killed it. Both have a lot of workers, satuartion level is okey-dokey. Raven is building a supply depot in Dracos natural, delaying his expo a bit. Draco is double expoing, Ravens CC lands at his natural. Draco just lost 2 observers in a very gay way. Raven builds 2 more factories (a total of 3 vs Draco's 5 gates). Raven is once again delaying Draco's expo a bit with an scv. The brave worker dies and Draco starts building his 4th expo. Raven camps at his main. More factories, More expo's... *yawn*...Raven dropped 4 vulturs in Draco's main, microed a bit, killed a few probes, a few zealots, but it wasn't something really noteworthy... And another 4 vult drop. Raven starts his 4th expo. Draco is starting to build carriers - again. Deja vu; I need a coffee. 3rd stargate up for Draco. Raven begins his cloack tech - HE KNOWS! Please macro some more, it's not boring enough yet. Arbiter tribunal up for Draco. Just some little fights here and there... Raven's half of the map is full of turrets. Draco's attacking Raven's main with his carriers, he kills a couple of turrets / buildings, ran away from the wraiths. Both players seem to be waiting for all of the minerals disappear from the map or the end of the world, whichever comes faster.
Draco recalled his army to Raven's main. Factories are being destroyed. Raven lost most of this wraiths, Draco has 4 carriers, 3 of them have been lockdowned by Raven, but he has no anti-air units to kill them with.


GG 2-0 for Draco.
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
September 08 2006 23:08 GMT
#178
hah I used to like blackman back then, I'm not him of course, but his style. But last year it changed too much, maybe because his old style would not work today, maybe for any other reason, but just got boring to watch.

So this year I am hoping for Draco to go, and Blackman losing so early just shows he didn't practice enough. We all know he **could** win it all, at least make it to the final.
For the Swarm!
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 23:09 GMT
#179
Raven is going to face the winner of Hullah vs Slider in the LB final (bo3) and Draco is waiting for his opponent in the grand final.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 23:09 GMT
#180
Draco vs Raven WB Final replays up @ netwars.pl
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
September 08 2006 23:10 GMT
#181
are those last games gonna be played today?
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 23:11 GMT
#182
Yes.
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 08 2006 23:14 GMT
#183
shit raven lost
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
September 08 2006 23:14 GMT
#184
Does the guy from WB get an advantage for the grat final ?
Is it BO5 ?
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 23:16 GMT
#185
I'm not sure about the system, it's probably either bo5 or double bo3. In first case the LB winner has a 1-0 lead, in the 2nd case he has to win only one bo3. (in both cases he has to win 2 games, but in the 2nd scenario he can afford losing up to 3 games).
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 23:18 GMT
#186
Btw, I believe all of the games from offline finals are FP Replays.
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
September 08 2006 23:19 GMT
#187
Yea, they are all fp replays. 500++kb size ;/
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 23:23 GMT
#188
Slider > TM 2-0
Raven vs Slider in the LB final, winner to face Draco in the Grand Final.
Peyong
Profile Joined August 2006
Trinidad/Tobago119 Posts
September 08 2006 23:27 GMT
#189
4, 3, 2, 1 ..... Krzysztof Nalepka fighting !~
Sea, Sun and Sand
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
September 08 2006 23:35 GMT
#190
TT hullah! you fought well

still love you!!
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
September 08 2006 23:36 GMT
#191
Admin(Ilvy?): thx for the FPreplays ;p
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
September 08 2006 23:38 GMT
#192
On September 09 2006 08:36 mcmascote wrote:
Admin(Ilvy?): thx for the FPreplays ;p


-_-?
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
September 08 2006 23:50 GMT
#193
Slider won vs Hullah ?
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 23:50 GMT
#194
On September 09 2006 08:23 True_Spike wrote:
Slider > TM 2-0
Raven vs Slider in the LB final, winner to face Draco in the Grand Final.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-08 23:56:27
September 08 2006 23:52 GMT
#195
Just came back, it seems Raven vs Slider is already in progress. Raven seems to have a huge advantage due to Raven's constant harrass. No expo's yet. Raven has more units and scvs, he established a push just outside Slider's base. Raven started building an expo @ his natural. Raven rolled over Slider in this game... GG.
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
September 08 2006 23:54 GMT
#196
What does TM stand for ?
Piccolo
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Chile621 Posts
September 08 2006 23:55 GMT
#197
reps Slider v/s hullah? :3
You said wc3 was simpler than SC, wc3 is 3d, SC is 2d, therefore you can counter yourself.... OVazioFrio
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 08 2006 23:56 GMT
#198
TM - Hullah.
Hullah for Europeans, u got to know him as Hullah, TM for Polish, always.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 08 2006 23:56 GMT
#199
On September 09 2006 08:52 True_Spike wrote:
Just came back, it seems Raven vs Slider is already in progress. Raven seems to have a huge advantage due to Raven's constant harrass. No expo's yet. Raven has more units and scvs, he established a push just outside Slider's base. Raven started building an expo @ his natural. Raven rolled over Slider in this game... GG.


Raven vs Slider 1-0
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
September 08 2006 23:57 GMT
#200
Nice, gj draco. Raven seems solid though too.
heavy hand upon the land, feel it's weight inside you
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 00:00:20
September 08 2006 23:58 GMT
#201
TM is Hullah's old aka, he began to use his Hullah ID after he joined ToT (and mRv). In his =SF= days he was known as TM aka Turretlame.

http://www.clansf.prv.pl/
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 08 2006 23:58 GMT
#202
Interesting! Draco's become one of the biggest asses in broodwar since went to korea, but he's also the best player Poland can send.
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 00:05:51
September 09 2006 00:01 GMT
#203
Slider is zealot rushing Raven (yeah, the 2nd game began when I was not watching). Vulture is being made, while Slider just started to build his core. He didnt manage to break Raven's wall-in. Factory add-on for Raven, he started building a starport as well.. and add-on... Another attempt to brake Raven's wall-in, Slider was forced to retreat. He started building robo facility. Raven killed 2 probes with a lonely vulture. Raven is building 2 more factories and proceeds with a 4 vult drop. Slider is builindg robo support bay. RAVEN KILLED MOST OF SLIDERS PEONS WITH A SINGLE MINE (with the help of slider's goon). An all-in attack @ Raven's main... Raven managed to hold his wall-in, GG.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 00:08:41
September 09 2006 00:06 GMT
#204
On September 09 2006 09:01 True_Spike wrote:
Slider is zealot rushing Raven (yeah, the 2nd game began when I was not watching). Vulture is being made, while Slider just started to build his core. He didnt manage to break Raven's wall-in. Factory add-on for Raven, he started building a starport as well.. and add-on... Another attempt to brake Raven's wall-in, Slider was forced to retreat. He started building robo facility. Raven killed 2 probes with a lonely vulture. Raven is building 2 more factories and proceeds with a 4 vult drop. Slider is builindg robo support bay. RAVEN KILLED MOST OF SLIDERS PEONS WITH A SINGLE MINE (with the help of slider's goon). An all-in attack @ Raven's main... Raven managed to hold his wall-in, GG.


Raven > Slider 2-0

Grand Final: Draco (WB Winner) vs Raven (LB Winner)
The winner goes to Monza and probably wins a small, silly & useless prize as well. Counter Strike folks proceed to shout their asses of for no apparent reason in the background. I believe the final will be played in a while, stay tuned
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 09 2006 00:06 GMT
#205
This is not warcraft, they are called WORKERS!!!!!!!!

oo Raven vs Draco =]
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 09 2006 00:07 GMT
#206
Sorry, I got used to saying peons due to WC II =p
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 09 2006 00:08 GMT
#207
Too bad there's no english cast or video
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
September 09 2006 00:11 GMT
#208
2 MYM fighting each other but only 1 will go T_T poor thing
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 09 2006 00:13 GMT
#209
So is it Slider vs Hullah for 3/4 place?
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 09 2006 00:13 GMT
#210
Draco's aka's MYM / eR / Nal / Sparkyz
Raven's aka's MYM / GN / Not sure about his west clan
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 09 2006 00:13 GMT
#211
On September 09 2006 09:13 DreamScaR wrote:
So is it Slider vs Hullah for 3/4 place?


Slider is 3rd, since he lost in the LB final.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 00:14:43
September 09 2006 00:14 GMT
#212
I will get info about the gran final format in a sec.

Raven vs Slider replays up @ netwars.pl
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 00:24:53
September 09 2006 00:16 GMT
#213
Raven should've won the first game on Gaia.

And second game too, sigh. 2 Groups of Wraiths? k.

But otherwise he played really good imo. But yeah getting Scan after hitting 200 might not be that great idea.
It takes a fool to remain sane.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 00:18:12
September 09 2006 00:17 GMT
#214
The final is going to be casted by ... Blackman.
But it doesn't really concern you, since it's in Polish.
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 09 2006 00:18 GMT
#215
On September 09 2006 09:17 True_Spike wrote:
The final is going to be casted by ... Blackman.
But it doesn't really concern you, since it's in Polish.


hehe.. he's pulling a Tasteless
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 00:30:00
September 09 2006 00:20 GMT
#216
Raven vs Draco - Gaia. Draco spawned @ 12, Raven spawned right next to him. Draco starts his gateway, Raven started his barracks near his CC. Rafinery started for both Raven and Draco. Core started for Draco. Core done. His tech is a bit faster than that of Raven. 1/3 Factory... Rines blocked Draco's scout. 1st goon up for Draco, blocked Raven's scout. Barracks fly to Draco's base. 2nd gateway started for Draco - 2 gate range. Raven's starport is nearly finished. A mine blown up 3 rines and a goon... 2nd goon dead... Draco is microing his goons pretty good, both died to a mine without killing any more scvs. Blackman fended of some nasty TV reported wanting an interview and proceeds with the commentary.
Expo up for Draco, Raven is trying to use his dropship somehow, but there are no openings in Draco's defence. Raven is microing his vultures in Draco's main, killing probes...2...4...5. Vultures dead, another drop coming. 2 goons in Draco's main defending the probes. Draco's micro is amazing today; Raven failed to do much damage. A fight just outside Draco's nat, he managed to fend off terran forces. Stepped on a mine with 2 goons, lame! Draco attacks... Awesome micro display. Raven has nothing to defend himself with, but he dropped Draco's main meanwhile. Draco's goons killed over 30 units, that's how good his micro is. Raven is trying to defend himself, but he's just loosing units...gg
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 09 2006 00:21 GMT
#217
good position for raven
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 09 2006 00:23 GMT
#218
no, not really.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 09 2006 00:24 GMT
#219
hehe talking about proffesional commenting :D

btw all in the family. Three mYm players in the match ;]
puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
September 09 2006 00:27 GMT
#220
btw wasnt raven inactive ? like blackman ?
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 09 2006 00:30 GMT
#221
On September 09 2006 09:20 True_Spike wrote:
Raven vs Draco - Gaia. Draco spawned @ 12, Raven spawned right next to him. Draco starts his gateway, Raven started his barracks near his CC. Rafinery started for both Raven and Draco. Core started for Draco. Core done. His tech is a bit faster than that of Raven. 1/3 Factory... Rines blocked Draco's scout. 1st goon up for Draco, blocked Raven's scout. Barracks fly to Draco's base. 2nd gateway started for Draco - 2 gate range. Raven's starport is nearly finished. A mine blown up 3 rines and a goon... 2nd goon dead... Draco is microing his goons pretty good, both died to a mine without killing any more scvs. Blackman fended of some nasty TV reported wanting an interview and proceeds with the commentary.
Expo up for Draco, Raven is trying to use his dropship somehow, but there are no openings in Draco's defence. Raven is microing his vultures in Draco's main, killing probes...2...4...5. Vultures dead, another drop coming. 2 goons in Draco's main defending the probes. Draco's micro is amazing today; Raven failed to do much damage. A fight just outside Draco's nat, he managed to fend off terran forces. Stepped on a mine with 2 goons, lame! Draco attacks... Awesome micro display. Raven has nothing to defend himself with, but he dropped Draco's main meanwhile. Draco's goons killed over 30 units, that's how good his micro is. Raven is trying to defend himself, but he's just loosing units...gg


Draco > Raven @ Gaia
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 00:32:01
September 09 2006 00:30 GMT
#222
Next map: Azalea.
Raven is uploading the replay from the game @ netwars.pl, you can download it in a few seconds. Draco only needs 1 more win. As blackman himself just said - Draco really deserves to win this year, Raven is in awesome shape as well, but Draco is far better than anyone present here, at WCG.
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 09 2006 00:31 GMT
#223
that was fast... and intense, Draco wasnt fooling around this time
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
September 09 2006 00:31 GMT
#224
Ravens play amazes me. But it seems Draco is simply better, at least today.
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 09 2006 00:31 GMT
#225
Brackets updated
http://www.pwl.pl/bracket.html
http://www.pwl.pl/wcgp/index2.php?option=com_mls_tournaments&task=view_brackets&Itemid=3&tournamentid=34
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
September 09 2006 00:32 GMT
#226
so is it 1-0 so far ?
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 09 2006 00:32 GMT
#227
Uploaded all the replays up to LB final inclusive.
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 09 2006 00:32 GMT
#228
Yeah, Draco needs to win one bo3, Raven needs to win two bo3's.
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 09 2006 00:32 GMT
#229
It's 0-0. The 1-0 is from Draco coming out of winners'.
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 09 2006 00:33 GMT
#230
Also, it's not two bo3's, it's bo5 with 1 point for Draco.
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 00:54:22
September 09 2006 00:33 GMT
#231
On September 09 2006 09:30 True_Spike wrote:
Next map: Azalea.
Raven is uploading the replay from the game @ netwars.pl, you can download it in a few seconds. Draco only needs 1 more win. As blackman himself just said - Draco really deserves to win this year, Raven is in awesome shape as well, but Draco is far better than anyone present here, at WCG.


Raven is starting his wall-in, didn't hear anything about the potitions though. Core building for Draco, he seems to be doing the same he did previously so far. Draco attacks Raven's depot with a zealot, but Raven has 1 rine. First goon came and Draco attacks again. Raven is building his tank, and is doing something with his machine shop. 2nd fact + add-on up. 2nd goon came, depot down. Raven defends imself with a vulture. Draco is sending all his troops to Raven's main; again - perfect micro. Observers are being build meanwhile, as well as a new expo. Dreamscar - I know, but I didnt saw the 2nd fact before =D. Raven sent his vulture to Draco. Raven killed 2 goons, but a couple of vultures died. Raven starts his expo. Vulture passed Draco's goons and proceeds to lay mines and kill probes, but managed to kill only 2 of them. Draco moved out with his entire army. Draco lost his entire force, Raven managed to defend himself, but Draco is attacking again with his new army. Hi Micro Raven managed to kill 2 more probes with a lone vulture again. Raven is expoing at his min only. 3 tanks fight with a goon army, but "it seems like they are immortal". A mine blowed up on 2 goons and a bunch of scv's. A tank for Raven and a shuttle for Draco. No idea about the unit count. Draco is outmicroing Raven in every single encounter. 6 goons + 2 more in the shuttle - another attack. And again mines seem to do the job, but more goons are coming. Raven has vultures only. 4 goons + a zealot vs tank + vultures. More units coming. He's keeping the pressure, he made templar archives meanwhile. Raven's getting raped, despite his awesome micro, but Draco's simply better. Draco has 6 gateways, speed should be up for him soon. Raven is just defending himself, there is absolutely nothing he can do. He has 4 tanks atm, but the leg upgrade just finished. He ran up his tanks, hoping for some mines to blow the tanks up, but there are no mines there. Zealots and 2 stormers coming. 1 tank died...2nd ... 3rd one is still alive, 2 storms ... tanks die. But even more units came. There are tons of zealots/goons dying, but he's keeping the pressure on Raven anyways. 8 gates vs 4 factories. Raven builds his supply depots on his choke. Zeal/goon/ht army attacking... not yet, it seems. Raven scouted Draco's expo with a lonely vulture and managed to kill 4 probes before it died. Draco's powering, Raven as well, but his eco is worse, so he's forced to harras his opponent somehow. Raven scanned Draco's army... he's moving out... both armies clash at Raven's choke...storms... Draco killed almost all of Raven's scvs at his expo and most of Raven's mainforce... Draco has 5 expos running, Raven only 2. Draco has 14 gateways working non-stop. It doesn't look too good for Raven... he's moving out with his army of tanks/vultures.. Draco attacks with hallucinated zealots and a small force. Another attack... storms... Raven contained Draco, but it doesnt seem like he will be able to maintain it for long. Draco keeps building gateways at his expo's. He broke the contain and attacks Raven's base. GG
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
September 09 2006 00:33 GMT
#232
After this can someone make a Pack please
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 09 2006 00:37 GMT
#233
Spike, that means quick 2fact mine tech =]
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 09 2006 00:40 GMT
#234
Spike <-- Micro btw..

GO RAVEN.. BRING THIS TO A SECOND SERIESSSSS
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 09 2006 00:42 GMT
#235
Any chance of knowing EXP count??
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 09 2006 00:45 GMT
#236
its bo5
Draco has 2-0, 1 game due to winner bracket.
its over imo ;]
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 09 2006 00:47 GMT
#237
It's slowly going away for raven :\
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 09 2006 00:54 GMT
#238
gogo draco : )
why so 진지해?
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 09 2006 00:54 GMT
#239
It's over, Draco has too much control and power on the map from what Spike has been saying.
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 09 2006 00:54 GMT
#240
wow non stop action, contantly i hear something shooting, dying..
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3424 Posts
September 09 2006 00:55 GMT
#241
On September 09 2006 09:33 True_Spike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 09:30 True_Spike wrote:
Next map: Azalea.
Raven is uploading the replay from the game @ netwars.pl, you can download it in a few seconds. Draco only needs 1 more win. As blackman himself just said - Draco really deserves to win this year, Raven is in awesome shape as well, but Draco is far better than anyone present here, at WCG.


Raven is starting his wall-in, didn't hear anything about the potitions though. Core building for Draco, he seems to be doing the same he did previously so far. Draco attacks Raven's depot with a zealot, but Raven has 1 rine. First goon came and Draco attacks again. Raven is building his tank, and is doing something with his machine shop. 2nd fact + add-on up. 2nd goon came, depot down. Raven defends imself with a vulture. Draco is sending all his troops to Raven's main; again - perfect micro. Observers are being build meanwhile, as well as a new expo. Dreamscar - I know, but I didnt saw the 2nd fact before =D. Raven sent his vulture to Draco. Raven killed 2 goons, but a couple of vultures died. Raven starts his expo. Vulture passed Draco's goons and proceeds to lay mines and kill probes, but managed to kill only 2 of them. Draco moved out with his entire army. Draco lost his entire force, Raven managed to defend himself, but Draco is attacking again with his new army. Hi Micro Raven managed to kill 2 more probes with a lone vulture again. Raven is expoing at his min only. 3 tanks fight with a goon army, but "it seems like they are immortal". A mine blowed up on 2 goons and a bunch of scv's. A tank for Raven and a shuttle for Draco. No idea about the unit count. Draco is outmicroing Raven in every single encounter. 6 goons + 2 more in the shuttle - another attack. And again mines seem to do the job, but more goons are coming. Raven has vultures only. 4 goons + a zealot vs tank + vultures. More units coming. He's keeping the pressure, he made templar archives meanwhile. Raven's getting raped, despite his awesome micro, but Draco's simply better. Draco has 6 gateways, speed should be up for him soon. Raven is just defending himself, there is absolutely nothing he can do. He has 4 tanks atm, but the leg upgrade just finished. He ran up his tanks, hoping for some mines to blow the tanks up, but there are no mines there. Zealots and 2 stormers coming. 1 tank died...2nd ... 3rd one is still alive, 2 storms ... tanks die. But even more units came. There are tons of zealots/goons dying, but he's keeping the pressure on Raven anyways. 8 gates vs 4 factories. Raven builds his supply depots on his choke. Zeal/goon/ht army attacking... not yet, it seems. Raven scouted Draco's expo with a lonely vulture and managed to kill 4 probes before it died. Draco's powering, Raven as well, but his eco is worse, so he's forced to harras his opponent somehow. Raven scanned Draco's army... he's moving out... both armies clash at Raven's choke...storms... Draco killed almost all of Raven's scvs at his expo and most of Raven's mainforce... Draco has 5 expos running, Raven only 2. Draco has 14 gateways working non-stop. It doesn't look too good for Raven... he's moving out with his army of tanks/vultures.. Draco attacks with hallucinated zealots and a small force. Another attack... storms... Raven contained Draco, but it doesnt seem like he will be able to maintain it for long. Draco keeps building gateways at his expo's. He broke the contain and attacks Raven's base. GG


Draco wins, Draco's the champion.
Draco > Raven 3-0 Grand Final
Replays up @ netwars.pl and the bracket posted here earlier.
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 09 2006 00:55 GMT
#242
Draco's off to Monza! MYM and Sparkyz will be happy about that
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
September 09 2006 00:56 GMT
#243
yeah! gl in italy, draco!
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 09 2006 00:59 GMT
#244
looking forward to Monza !
SKT1_Midas vs Sparkyz_Draco !
Lets get ready to rumble !!! woohoo ;-)
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 09 2006 01:00 GMT
#245
congratulations draco
Piccolo
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Chile621 Posts
September 09 2006 01:02 GMT
#246
gj draco ;O;

._.
You said wc3 was simpler than SC, wc3 is 3d, SC is 2d, therefore you can counter yourself.... OVazioFrio
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
September 09 2006 01:05 GMT
#247
congratulations, well deserverd the spot.
KorvspaD
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Sweden468 Posts
September 09 2006 01:12 GMT
#248
Great Work and Good Luck in Monza Draco
for all we could have done and all that could have been...
puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
September 09 2006 01:15 GMT
#249
As i wrote but nobody answered me ... wasnt Raven inactive like blackman ?
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
September 09 2006 01:16 GMT
#250
great, i wanna see how draco does in monza now that he IZ MAD PRO OFMG, gl to him!
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Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
September 09 2006 01:24 GMT
#251
good. the best pro won! is the whole rep pack up yet?
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 09 2006 01:25 GMT
#252
Replay pack, ordered by player nicks, numbered:
http://www.wgtour.com/final.tar.gz
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
Peyong
Profile Joined August 2006
Trinidad/Tobago119 Posts
September 09 2006 01:26 GMT
#253
GJ Draco, and GL in Monza
Sea, Sun and Sand
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 01:43:32
September 09 2006 01:32 GMT
#254
On September 09 2006 10:25 Ilintar wrote:
Replay pack, ordered by player nicks, numbered:
http://www.wgtour.com/final.tar.gz

EXCELLENT! i always find the organization of poland's bw scene quite impressive! gw guys and gj draco.

edit: its just 33 games right?
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
September 09 2006 01:35 GMT
#255
is it just me or is every single replay corrupted? ^^
old version?
Enter a Uh
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
September 09 2006 01:39 GMT
#256
On September 09 2006 10:35 jtan wrote:
is it just me or is every single replay corrupted? ^^
old version?


use bwlauncher
impatience is a virtue
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
September 09 2006 01:47 GMT
#257
On September 09 2006 10:32 Myxomatosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 10:25 Ilintar wrote:
Replay pack, ordered by player nicks, numbered:
http://www.wgtour.com/final.tar.gz

EXCELLENT! i always find the organization of poland's bw scene quite impressive! gw guys and gj draco.

edit: its just 33 games right?



yeah 33 games is 100%.
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 01:58:47
September 09 2006 01:53 GMT
#258
On September 09 2006 10:47 SF)CruiseR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 10:32 Myxomatosis wrote:
On September 09 2006 10:25 Ilintar wrote:
Replay pack, ordered by player nicks, numbered:
http://www.wgtour.com/final.tar.gz

EXCELLENT! i always find the organization of poland's bw scene quite impressive! gw guys and gj draco.

edit: its just 33 games right?


yeah 33 games is 100%.

where are MIsterZZ games? draco raven reps are quite good.
Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
September 09 2006 02:01 GMT
#259
He has all those weird nicks like "ZWYCIEZCA WCG POLSKA" etc. All the nicks you can't identify are probably his :>
Former webmaster @ WGTour.com / BWLauncher developer
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
September 09 2006 02:16 GMT
#260
On September 09 2006 11:01 Ilintar wrote:
He has all those weird nicks like "ZWYCIEZCA WCG POLSKA" etc. All the nicks you can't identify are probably his :>

kk thx!
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 02:19:28
September 09 2006 02:17 GMT
#261
i made a rep pack i organized everything names brackets etc
http://ogrenci.hacettepe.edu.tr/~b0200269/wcgploffline.rar
hf

awesome how draco improved himself in macro/micro managment
33 games
most of them are first person
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 09 2006 02:18 GMT
#262
what is the meaning of
ZWYCIEZCA WCG POLSKA??
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 09 2006 02:19 GMT
#263
Winner of WCG Poland ? :D
-.-;
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
scGhost
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland168 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 02:19:43
September 09 2006 02:19 GMT
#264
On September 09 2006 11:18 zir_green wrote:
what is the meaning of
ZWYCIEZCA WCG POLSKA??


WCG: POLAND WINNER
SCV is the key! ....
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 09 2006 02:20 GMT
#265
is now draco the hero of poland?
or after wcg when he beats ilovoov , midas or the uglyzerg :D
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 09 2006 02:28 GMT
#266
He is hero from longtime. This was just proving it ;d
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
September 09 2006 02:29 GMT
#267
haha what kind of pvt was that by draco

he charges into raven's defended natural like 10 times with even supply, loses all his units every time, and winds up 30 supply and 2 exps ahead
impatience is a virtue
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 09 2006 02:42 GMT
#268
he probobly knew that this play is enough on Raven. Finesse wasnt needed.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 09 2006 02:50 GMT
#269
how can you have 5 commnd centers and only 5 factories ? : [
why so 진지해?
larrysbird
Profile Joined May 2006
375 Posts
September 09 2006 02:52 GMT
#270
On September 09 2006 09:27 puLs.ReADy wrote:
btw wasnt raven inactive ? like blackman ?

no no no... he said this b4 at gosugamers, playing hardcore with another account at pgt.

ggnr? raven?, congrats dracol 8D, u deserve it
Is there a cure among us from this processed sanity - c soul
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 09 2006 03:02 GMT
#271
Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.
Moderator<:3-/-<
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
September 09 2006 03:08 GMT
#272
Told you blackman doesn't have what it takes
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
September 09 2006 03:40 GMT
#273
On September 09 2006 11:50 Rekrul wrote:
how can you have 5 commnd centers and only 5 factories ? : [

lol that game vs draco was ridiculous. his mineral count was so low too. i was very confused.
sataNik[pG]
Profile Joined July 2003
Greece722 Posts
September 09 2006 03:42 GMT
#274
On September 09 2006 11:50 Rekrul wrote:
how can you have 5 commnd centers and only 5 factories ? : [


NTT once had 6 CC and 3 factories :D
he also maxed with like 30 tanks, 140 scvs and mass turrets everywhere.
he lost to carriers while having mined x2 what toss mined....
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 09 2006 03:56 GMT
#275
lol ... did Draco lose a game at all ?
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Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 09 2006 03:58 GMT
#276
Yes, first game in WCG vs Hullah, it seemed he wasnt warmed up and maybe he undersestimated enemy a little. Later there were no similar situations ;d
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
September 09 2006 04:04 GMT
#277
On September 08 2006 16:18 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2006 15:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
i wouldnt be THAT surprised if draco lost

imagine him sitting in the OGN Sparkyz practice house, "Hey GUUUUYS will you help me practice for my wcg"

and them saying "A korean will win it anyway shut up and play against Terato on Arcadia 2"


Fortunately a blind monkey could rape Terato mouse only, so Draco's duties are not that difficult.

QFT
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In)Spire
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1323 Posts
September 09 2006 04:10 GMT
#278
Draco better win.
larrysbird
Profile Joined May 2006
375 Posts
September 09 2006 04:20 GMT
#279
On September 09 2006 12:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.

progamers are just to imba
Is there a cure among us from this processed sanity - c soul
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 05:19:56
September 09 2006 04:55 GMT
#280
On September 09 2006 11:17 zir_green wrote:
i made a rep pack i organized everything names brackets etc
http://ogrenci.hacettepe.edu.tr/~b0200269/wcgploffline.rar
hf

awesome how draco improved himself in macro/micro managment
33 games
most of them are first person

omg yes thx
Surely this will cure my hangover

Edit: You put a spoiler in it TT %&$%#@%#*^#&%^%#$@#%&^^&
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
September 09 2006 04:57 GMT
#281
Well I guess Draco deserves it. Im happy for him. Would have been nice to follow some other polish gamers as well. Their roster is insane. Blackman, Raven, Suncow, Tomson(retired?), Spawn, sYs, Dunaj(retired?), Hullah, Avernum, Fizban(retired?), Pako, Zyneck, Slider, Mario, Majtek, Macia, Paranoid, Falcon, Gohan, K A Z I O W I C H U R A etcetc neverending I probably forgot some too
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 05:27:35
September 09 2006 05:21 GMT
#282
You forgot wiget, predator, dreiven, exmario, Bh, pako, venom

well here is a list of players that have played on team Poland + there win/loss record.
I pwn

And here showswhy Draco has been the polish hero for so long:
I rock even more
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 09 2006 05:45 GMT
#283
yeah, some study, some play poker, some work, some dunno.
I think Sutek, Thunder, KaGieBe(plays 2v2 for pol sometimes), Polo, Psycho_Dad[SSF]&Miras[SSF], Matrox(old times pol-team captain), Skorpion(GN)&Ader(GN), Twins&Floe, Mixer&SzybkiLopez, Boban&ReDMaN are worth mentioning ;-)
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
September 09 2006 06:27 GMT
#284
Some really wicked games. Too bad Poland only had one slot.

Draco fighting!
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
September 09 2006 07:14 GMT
#285
Poland is good, but Raven wouldn't be a contender for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.

The right person won the Poland event this year, which is all you can ask for.

DrunkToss ftw.
If anyone orders any merlot Im leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking merlot.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-09 07:48:25
September 09 2006 07:48 GMT
#286
Draco is a muh fuckn badass.
He decides to be a pro-gamer and does it.
He decides to win Poland WCG and wins it.
What next? I REALLY look forward to a Draco top 4 finish. I think he can do it.
If not, at least top 8, dependant on brackets of course.

LX too, but the focus is on Draco now.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 09 2006 08:05 GMT
#287
how far he gets depends on how long it takes him to meet a korean
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 09 2006 08:07 GMT
#288
we'll see. WCG will definately be quite exciting this year. Seems like a pretty good lineup coming!
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 09 2006 10:12 GMT
#289
On September 09 2006 17:05 HungZerg wrote:
how far he gets depends on how long it takes him to meet a korean


i think that applies to all foreigners this year
Get it by your hands...
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
September 09 2006 10:17 GMT
#290
On September 09 2006 19:12 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 17:05 HungZerg wrote:
how far he gets depends on how long it takes him to meet a korean


i think that applies to all foreigners this year


not really, because not all qualified foreigners are the cream of the foreign crop.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 09 2006 17:09 GMT
#291
On September 09 2006 12:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.

What do you mean? The games I watched were even for the most part.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
September 10 2006 00:48 GMT
#292
On September 10 2006 02:09 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 12:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.

What do you mean? The games I watched were even for the most part.

that one on paranoid androide was so dumb on ravens part. he scans carrers so makes wraiths ghosts and 100000 turrets for the next 15 minutes.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
September 10 2006 01:03 GMT
#293
On September 09 2006 06:28 [pG]Archi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote:
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D


BM was unlucky in his games, he has already proven his skills. Sorry but you don't know shit about blackman and suddenly state that blackman sucks.


I've been following the starcraft gaming scene for more than 3 years. I've said in a previous topic that Blackman had already proven he is a talented player ( beating Oddysay back in 2002 ) but now, in 2006, I maintain it was completely irrealistic to say he had a chance vs the koreans and his results at WCG poland clearly proved my point. That's all ..
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
September 10 2006 01:07 GMT
#294
On September 09 2006 06:56 Ilvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote:
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D


impressiv how stupid some ppl are


You need a serious reality check honey :/ And I wasn't trying to offense anyone so chill out plz THANKS -____-;
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
September 10 2006 01:56 GMT
#295
On September 10 2006 10:03 ChApFoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 06:28 [pG]Archi wrote:
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote:
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D


BM was unlucky in his games, he has already proven his skills. Sorry but you don't know shit about blackman and suddenly state that blackman sucks.


I've been following the starcraft gaming scene for more than 3 years. I've said in a previous topic that Blackman had already proven he is a talented player ( beating Oddysay back in 2002 ) but now, in 2006, I maintain it was completely irrealistic to say he had a chance vs the koreans and his results at WCG poland clearly proved my point. That's all ..


QFT.

At that lan party about 1-2 months ago in Hungary Blackman got beaten by a random zerg (or at least one I never heard about) and Shaman (who's good, don't get me wrong, but it seemed too easy for Shaman). Then this happens at WCG, and still you guys claim he could have beaten koreeans and stuff. Well you're obviously wrong. Just because he was once great doesn't mean he'll always be great. How far do you think Tsunami would make it if he'll re-start playing. How about Grrrr? Grrrr said it himself, that he would have no chance against koreeans, because today's play level is too high.

So what I'm saying is: Judge Blackman's current skill by what he accomplishes now, not by what he accomplished before. I'm not saying he can't do it, but he DOES need a lot of practice to be great again.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Ronin
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada92 Posts
September 10 2006 04:26 GMT
#296
Congratulations Draco. Make my dreams of a non-korean gold medalist come true!
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
September 10 2006 04:47 GMT
#297
haha EVERYONE will be rooting for Draco now, draco is the hope :D~ im looking forward to the WCG replays results
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 10 2006 05:00 GMT
#298
On September 10 2006 02:09 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 12:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.

What do you mean? The games I watched were even for the most part.



have you seen the finals? draco just outplays raven in every fight so bad. Mines did more harm to Raven that good. Draco goon control was very good.
Moderator<:3-/-<
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
September 10 2006 06:04 GMT
#299
On September 10 2006 10:07 ChApFoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2006 06:56 Ilvy wrote:
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote:
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D


impressiv how stupid some ppl are


You need a serious reality check honey :/ And I wasn't trying to offense anyone so chill out plz THANKS -____-;


Do not call me honey , i am not one of your inet bitches. Beside of i have no reality problem i dislike just these kind of arrogant and sarcastic posts ^^
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 10 2006 06:06 GMT
#300
On September 10 2006 14:00 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2006 02:09 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On September 09 2006 12:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.

What do you mean? The games I watched were even for the most part.



have you seen the finals? draco just outplays raven in every fight so bad. Mines did more harm to Raven that good. Draco goon control was very good.

Uhu, I've seen all the games. But you act like raven was miles behind him in terms of skill, I think raven put up an excellent fight, yes, he did seem to slip a bit come midgame but if you watch the first game on gaia they played, he was winning.

And the second game on gaia he very well could have won if his dropship feint had worked

Yes, draco was 1 step ahead in micro and macro (especially keeping it up) but the games were still between two relatively even opponents.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 10 2006 06:30 GMT
#301
On September 10 2006 15:04 Ilvy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2006 10:07 ChApFoU wrote:
On September 09 2006 06:56 Ilvy wrote:
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote:
And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D


impressiv how stupid some ppl are


You need a serious reality check honey :/ And I wasn't trying to offense anyone so chill out plz THANKS -____-;


Do not call me honey , i am not one of your inet bitches. Beside of i have no reality problem i dislike just these kind of arrogant and sarcastic posts ^^

the arrogance is well deserved. blackman used to be great and i liked his play alot, but anyone who currently thinks hes capable of beating progamers should be laughed at.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
September 10 2006 06:57 GMT
#302
On September 10 2006 14:00 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2006 02:09 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On September 09 2006 12:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.

What do you mean? The games I watched were even for the most part.



have you seen the finals? draco just outplays raven in every fight so bad. Mines did more harm to Raven that good. Draco goon control was very good.


Yeah I like how he uses his goon w/ mine to blow up 3 marines + scv and continues to use mines to hurt raven like no tomorrow.
In the last game though I think Draco set rally point into Raven's main and he made like at least 20 shitty littke attacks before he manage to win haha :p
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
September 10 2006 07:26 GMT
#303
has any1 seen sliders wallet, looks like he lost it...
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 10 2006 08:26 GMT
#304
Thats what i mean. Even you dont see many flaws in Ravens play (management wise mainly), you see some flaws in dracos strategy (like sending small attacks that he knew would work, or attacks with 4 zealots and 4 hts) and still draco wins :S

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zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 10 2006 10:04 GMT
#305
someone liked my wcg rep pack i have organized
well
are there any pictures from poland?
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 10 2006 10:41 GMT
#306
On September 10 2006 17:26 IntoTheWow wrote:
Thats what i mean. Even you dont see many flaws in Ravens play (management wise mainly), you see some flaws in dracos strategy (like sending small attacks that he knew would work, or attacks with 4 zealots and 4 hts) and still draco wins :S


I actually think Raven opens very strongly but then gets too scared (maybe because it's draco)/can't keep up in middle game, so that's a flaw I guess.

The azalea game was just pure art micro tho.. He got himself a pretty big advantage when he killed the wall and the tank and could afford to play it like that I guess.
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nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
September 10 2006 12:19 GMT
#307
dracos small attacks were to not let raven get all sieged up, by trading units draco could keep raven count low and he knew he could macro better than raven so, trading units paid off nicely =p
Piccolo
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Chile621 Posts
September 10 2006 13:41 GMT
#308
also, the small attacks of draco were about trading goons for scv's, and vultures and some mines. I liked that game a lot. Draco lost goons, but the economy advantage continued growing up.

some pics would be great. or interviews?
You said wc3 was simpler than SC, wc3 is 3d, SC is 2d, therefore you can counter yourself.... OVazioFrio
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 10 2006 13:52 GMT
#309
On September 10 2006 15:06 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2006 14:00 IntoTheWow wrote:
On September 10 2006 02:09 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On September 09 2006 12:02 IntoTheWow wrote:
Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.

What do you mean? The games I watched were even for the most part.



have you seen the finals? draco just outplays raven in every fight so bad. Mines did more harm to Raven that good. Draco goon control was very good.

Uhu, I've seen all the games. But you act like raven was miles behind him in terms of skill, I think raven put up an excellent fight, yes, he did seem to slip a bit come midgame but if you watch the first game on gaia they played, he was winning.

And the second game on gaia he very well could have won if his dropship feint had worked

Yes, draco was 1 step ahead in micro and macro (especially keeping it up) but the games were still between two relatively even opponents.
hmm... i really thought that raven played VERY well in the WB vs draco.. then in the finals it looked like he just got toyed with.. i enjoyed the games nonetheless
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Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-10 22:30:20
September 10 2006 18:37 GMT
#310
Some photos:
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Mr. Fearless
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I will win on 5th anniversary !
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My TvP is not as weak as you thought !
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=[GP]= Squad: From left: MistrZZZ, Vader, Fosken aka Siz_Test07.
[image loading]

Mr Sleepy, bored by WCG.
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ChoGosu MgZ)ParanOid and Vader.

And just for DaZe !
[image loading]

Huulllaaaahhh !
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
rain~
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany461 Posts
September 10 2006 18:43 GMT
#311
Raven wants to kill someone
Football <3 1.FCM <3 BVB <3
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 10 2006 21:40 GMT
#312
pro gamers are so imba
raven didnt deserved that
he was very good
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 10 2006 22:05 GMT
#313
Fosken was Siz_test07 btw, not siz)drone, siz)drone is a korean

Nice pics.
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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
September 10 2006 22:27 GMT
#314
Raven looks like a.......Raven
isnt that freaky?
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 10 2006 23:34 GMT
#315
On September 11 2006 03:37 Musli wrote:

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Mr Sleepy, bored by WCG.

is it a boy or a girl behind draco?
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zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 11 2006 00:39 GMT
#316
has no tits but dunno
maybe boy
looks like jamie <3
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 11 2006 01:49 GMT
#317
wow i really can't tell
why so 진지해?
ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
September 11 2006 02:02 GMT
#318
I looked at that damn pic for like 5 minutes. And my conclusion is as follows.

Stands like a boy. Dresses like a boy. Boyish but not mannish hands/arms. Backpack... can that be called a point for a boy?
3.5 for boy.

Hair like a girl. Eyebrows like a girl. Girly necklace. Neck and skin around neck look softer, more like a girl / Adams apple, if any, is not blatantly obvious / zipped down shirt.
4 for girl.

That common plain unisex face that 20,000,000 white people have.
1 for transgender.
I'm calling it a girl with $10 on the line.

If not a boy... who is really, really, really confused and is going to spend a lot on therapy and a full operation.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
September 11 2006 02:13 GMT
#319
You forgot lips.

Definitely girl, or gay.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
September 11 2006 02:20 GMT
#320
It's a girl 95% sure. Very ungirly pose though. Probably a Tom Boy (spelling?).
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 11 2006 02:49 GMT
#321
For you, TL bros.
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jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
September 11 2006 02:57 GMT
#322
Shang, you have no trouble with this for Korean girls...

except <shudders> Ha Risu
Do your best, God will do the rest.
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-11 03:10:10
September 11 2006 03:09 GMT
#323
pose can trick you
just look @ MgZ)ParanOid:
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Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
September 11 2006 04:11 GMT
#324
I stand behind what I said earlier.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
September 11 2006 04:16 GMT
#325
Oh common. Lips in that first picture look unisex. Draco's lips look more kissably soft than hers in that pic. And it's true too.. look at them. ;-)
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-11 04:22:53
September 11 2006 04:21 GMT
#326
this polish wcg every year confuses meagain and again
2003 blackman was beaten
2004 a guy who was c1 in wgt wins the spot (kazio) beats draco in final
2005 blackman beats everyone again like in 2002
this year they have a progamer who wins the spot
and a fucking picture i am looking over 10 minutes
is this guy/girl i call it it now behind draco paranoid s sister ?

what next
what is going to be next year
rolf
larrysbird
Profile Joined May 2006
375 Posts
September 11 2006 04:23 GMT
#327
yngwie @ wcg
Is there a cure among us from this processed sanity - c soul
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
September 11 2006 04:36 GMT
#328
On September 11 2006 11:49 Musli wrote:
For you, TL bros.
[image loading]


cuuuuuuuuuuute!
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Piccolo
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Chile621 Posts
September 11 2006 05:16 GMT
#329
I'd hit it!
You said wc3 was simpler than SC, wc3 is 3d, SC is 2d, therefore you can counter yourself.... OVazioFrio
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 11 2006 06:02 GMT
#330
by popular demand:
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nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-11 06:07:24
September 11 2006 06:06 GMT
#331
ahh wait, i almost thought the second guy from the left was the person in question
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 11 2006 06:07 GMT
#332
im drunk heaavily and... ummmm i forgot... oh yeah its a girl for me ...sexxyyyy....blurpp
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
September 11 2006 06:08 GMT
#333
On September 11 2006 13:16 ToT)Testie( wrote:
Oh common. Lips in that first picture look unisex. Draco's lips look more kissably soft than hers in that pic. And it's true too.. look at them. ;-)


gay
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-11 06:56:37
September 11 2006 06:08 GMT
#334
mRv.Ravs and Hullah.
[image loading]

Dreiven and Predator.
[image loading]

and nice lady
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Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
September 11 2006 06:58 GMT
#335
On September 11 2006 03:37 Musli wrote:

And just for DaZe !
[image loading]

Huulllaaaahhh !



OH MAN I LOVE YOU AND I LOVE HULLAH EVEN MORE! hahah BEST EVER~~
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
September 11 2006 06:59 GMT
#336
On September 11 2006 11:13 Twisted wrote:
You forgot lips.

Definitely girl, or gay.


eyebrows ftw.
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-11 07:14:36
September 11 2006 07:12 GMT
#337
Hullah for life !
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Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
September 11 2006 07:17 GMT
#338
For those who dunno who to thanks for WGTour.
Ilintar, Peter WiLkin, PWL in short ;P
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Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
September 11 2006 08:38 GMT
#339
damnti this is so gay. i wish blackman had a better zvz...

and then play Draco... hed spank him
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
SCNewb
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada2210 Posts
September 11 2006 09:32 GMT
#340
thanks for providing this info
Huge iloveOov fan
zir_green
Profile Joined January 2004
291 Posts
September 11 2006 09:38 GMT
#341
On September 11 2006 16:17 Musli wrote:
For those who dunno who to thanks for WGTour.
Ilintar, Peter WiLkin, PWL in short ;P
[image loading]


nooooo not again it
look bottom right
i am going to be paranoid ( not the player hahahahah)
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
September 11 2006 12:29 GMT
#342
Ilintar is a fucking genius! creds to that dude!!
turretlame
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland176 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-12 00:40:21
September 12 2006 00:37 GMT
#343
[image loading]


Hullah and Avernum looking at iLvY's butt!

[image loading]


the cutest guy ever! for Dazie
...
turretlame
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland176 Posts
September 12 2006 00:45 GMT
#344
[image loading]


THIS IS A DRAGON-FLY, IF SOMEBODY IS NOT AWARE OF THAT!
...
ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
September 12 2006 01:01 GMT
#345
rofl i love hullah
TooS
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland113 Posts
September 12 2006 04:39 GMT
#346
On September 11 2006 16:12 Musli wrote:
Hullah for life !
[image loading]



Yeah im on the pic ^_^ (right side)

Hullah oWNZ !!! one of the coolest guys i ever met
When a man sacrifies love of power for the power of love, then will be peace on earth.
turretlame
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland176 Posts
September 12 2006 06:43 GMT
#347
-,- pozdro
...
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
September 12 2006 07:44 GMT
#348
yeah hullah is the coolest guy ive ever *met* as well ;p <3
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