Artur „Blackman” Michalak Krzysztof „Draco” Nalepka Krzysztof „Hullah” Sazon Rafał „ParanOid” Kontowicz Kamil „Fosken“ Sierocki Piotr „MistrZ” Jaworski Maciej „Raven” Polak Dominik „Slider” Rogacki
and more.... Starting today, September 8.... until.. Sunday, I think.
All good player but imo only Draco is a must for wcg, some will say Blackman but I don't. It's not like they have a linup of players like Russia, Germany or China can have where 2 or 3 players are a must. Only 1 players is a bit sad but not that much imo
I will cheer for Artur like every year, even if Hullah is in my team. Draco is a nice good guy, but he got already a lot and for Artur it would be a holiday he deserves.
On September 09 2006 02:54 ZlyKiss wrote: allow me to put the brackets from pol online wcg here: Hullah - Draco Fosken - Slider MistrZZZ - Blackman Raven - ParanOid
Nice matches :d A little comment from Me: Hullah vs Draco. Clearly winner here, Hullah isnt in his top shape and in macro war he lose this. I predict one or maybe even two risky strats/cheeses from Hullah. Fosken vs Slider. Very nice matchup, hard to say who will win, none of games will be cheeses. I say Fosken is the favourite cuz its ZvP and he trains sometimes with Siz protoss. MistZZZ vs Blackman. Mistrz in PvZ - cheese mostly, MistrZZ vs Blackman - ya all cheeses ^^; no favourit cuz of cheese, but i hope Blackman learned sth from previous WCG's and he will defend and overmacro MistrZZZ easily. Raven vs Paranoid. Nice matchup here too. Paranoid plays ZvT Blackman style' so Raven should be preapred for it, but in the elims ParanOid won, lets see how it goes offline But I predict one risky strat/cheese from Raven. GL all ! May the Draco win !
On September 09 2006 03:46 Musli wrote: bo3 Hullah - Draco 1-0 on Paranoid Raven - ParanOid 1-0 on Gaia Blackman - MistrZZZ 1-0 on Gaia (hard to cheese :D)
On September 09 2006 03:46 Musli wrote: bo3 Hullah - Draco 1-0 on Paranoid Raven - ParanOid 1-0 on Gaia Blackman - MistrZZZ 1-0 on Gaia (hard to cheese :D)
On September 09 2006 03:46 Musli wrote: bo3 Hullah - Draco 1-0 on Paranoid Raven - ParanOid 1-0 on Gaia Blackman - MistrZZZ 1-0 on Gaia (hard to cheese :D)
On September 09 2006 03:54 IamLove wrote: Where are SunCow, Spawn and Avernum?
Suncow's plane was going to leave around the time he had to play the WCG pol online thing, so he asked the others to play him ealrier. Of course, he just HAD to disrespect one of the people he was playing who then decided that he wasn't going to play him earlier, and therefore suncow was disqualified (because it would be unfair towards the two people who played and lost vs him to have those games count when the guy who refused got a free win).
Spawn didn't qualify I guess and avernum didn't play? Or didn't qualify at least.
Avernum didn't play this year. Replays are being uploaded almost immediatelly after games @ netwars.pl, like someone already mentioned. There's also a live radio, but it's in Polish, so I guess you don't really care ; )
6 Draco's zealots vs 3 Slider's zealots... shield battery up for Slider... Draco's retreating... Starts building gas... both harrasing each other... Draco lost his 2proxy-gate-powering pylon... Draco has the 1st goon, starts building range. Slider just started gathering gas, but has a higher zeal count... starts building core... Draco is outmicroing Slider with his goon army, Slider retreats... Draco starts his robotic facility... Draco is again outmicroing Slider's army, shesh... Draco made his way up Slider's ramp, but retreated; he's playing it safe, it seems. He starts his expo, 2 more gates, maintains his contain. 2 more gates up for Draco... Slider pretty much lost it by now, but he doesn't give up. Robotic support up for Slider. Draco placed a few goons @ his mineral line... Slider didn't do any dmg at all... Draco retreated to his expo, Slider moved out with his army... Slider harrased Draco's probes a bit with his reavers, but Draco still has a working expo and proceeds to further outmacro him... Slider ran away with a 6hp Shuttle, huh... Slider attempts to pass the huge bridge, but Draco is already waiting for him there... GG
zealot rush on PA (blackman displayed the poorest amount of micro ever) m&m rush on azalea (blackman made 3 sunkens and a few dumb lings vs like 12 marines 2 bat 4 medic)
On September 09 2006 05:46 True_Spike wrote: 6 Draco's zealots vs 3 Slider's zealots... shield battery up for Slider... Draco's retreating... Starts building gas... both harrasing each other... Draco lost his 2proxy-gate-powering pylon... Draco has the 1st goon, starts building range. Slider just started gathering gas, but has a higher zeal count... starts building core... Draco is outmicroing Slider with his goon army, Slider retreats... Draco starts his robotic facility... Draco is again outmicroing Slider's army, shesh... Draco made his way up Slider's ramp, but retreated; he's playing it safe, it seems. He starts his expo, 2 more gates, maintains his contain. 2 more gates up for Draco... Slider pretty much lost it by now, but he doesn't give up. Robotic support up for Slider. Draco placed a few goons @ his mineral line... Slider didn't do any dmg at all... Draco retreated to his expo, Slider moved out with his army... Slider harrased Draco's probes a bit with his reavers, but Draco still has a working expo and proceeds to further outmacro him... Slider ran away with a 6hp Shuttle, huh... Slider attempts to pass the huge bridge, but Draco is already waiting for him there... GG
Well, blackman averaged on 350-400 APM in his games, but he didnt really deserve to win this year. Pretty poor performance from him. Hullah is the 'slowest' player here, the only one with APM below 200... but like Musli said - it means nothing, really.
Paranoid plays a lot of games in Fragbet league vs strong opp, i think he plays for POL A too. This means he must be in quite a shape.Probably the toughest Draco opponent. and i am not suprised he beated BM This is just my own opinion
Man, a good zerg is so beautiful to watch. And first nOtforu cannot go because of visa problems, then SunCow due to scheduling and now Blackman is eliminated!
I especially keep in mind that these zergs could have been matches up against the two Korean terrans, which would make for beautiful matches in one of the most active match-ups. I hope not to see a lot of protoss vs terran now, which isn't quite as entertaining.
despite how "fast" blackman is, his control is awful. he doesn't even have the macro he once had and his strategies were not good either ;/ he didn't deserve to win. i would be very surprised if draco doesn't take this down
Raven vs Mistrzzz, 2nd game began. MistrZZZ AGAIN refuses to give vision to the WCG/Radio obs, like he refused in the last game vs Blackman (R O T F L).
Raven lost his wall-in supply depot... but managed to defend himself. Raven is going for 2fac vult I believe... mines upgrade finished for Raven... No tanks for Raven, he proceeds to outmicro Mistrzzz with pure vultures, keeps him in check that way, since he doesn't have any observers yet... Expo is building for Mistrzzz PROBABLY (remember, we don't have his vision!). Expo up for Raven... Raven is moving out, probably he'll attempt to contain his opponent... Raven lost his force, but managed to kill a few probes, he's retreating with whatever left... 2 more factories up for Raven... MistrZZZ is attacking Raven's expo, but had to retreat after killing a few mines and a single turret... 5th Factory up for raven (2 out of 5 with add-ons)... Mistrzz dropped a reaver in Raven's army, but failed to do any dmg, lost a few goons as well... Raven proceeds further with his push... and further... Raven scanned Mistrzzz stargates, both armies clash a few moments after. Mistrzz was forced to retreat.
On September 09 2006 06:03 Asjo wrote: Man, a good zerg is so beautiful to watch. And first nOtforu cannot go because of visa problems, then SunCow due to scheduling and now Blackman is eliminated!
I especially keep in mind that these zergs could have been matches up against the two Korean terrans, which would make for beautiful matches in one of the most active match-ups. I hope not to see a lot of protoss vs terran now, which isn't quite as entertaining.
Suncow, blackman and notforu would have all been CRUSHED vs midas or oov, I mean, CRUSHED. Not beaten, but destroyed-.- Games would probably last about 10 minutes..
And Mistrizzz is an idiot, they should force him to give vision.
On September 09 2006 06:14 True_Spike wrote: Raven lost his wall-in supply depot... but managed to defend himself. Raven is going for 2fac vult I believe... mines upgrade finished for Raven... No tanks for Raven, he proceeds to outmicro Mistrzzz with pure vultures, keeps him in check that way, since he doesn't have any observers yet... Expo is building for Mistrzzz PROBABLY (remember, we don't have his vision!). Expo up for Raven... Raven is moving out, probably he'll attempt to contain his opponent... Raven lost his force, but managed to kill a few probes, he's retreating with whatever left... 2 more factories up for Raven... MistrZZZ is attacking Raven's expo, but had to retreat after killing a few mines and a single turret... 5th Factory up for raven (2 out of 5 with add-ons)... Mistrzz dropped a reaver in Raven's army, but failed to do any dmg, lost a few goons as well... Raven proceeds further with his push.
Thanks for updates , btw which map are they playing?
On September 09 2006 06:14 True_Spike wrote: Raven lost his wall-in supply depot... but managed to defend himself. Raven is going for 2fac vult I believe... mines upgrade finished for Raven... No tanks for Raven, he proceeds to outmicro Mistrzzz with pure vultures, keeps him in check that way, since he doesn't have any observers yet... Expo is building for Mistrzzz PROBABLY (remember, we don't have his vision!). Expo up for Raven... Raven is moving out, probably he'll attempt to contain his opponent... Raven lost his force, but managed to kill a few probes, he's retreating with whatever left... 2 more factories up for Raven... MistrZZZ is attacking Raven's expo, but had to retreat after killing a few mines and a single turret... 5th Factory up for raven (2 out of 5 with add-ons)... Mistrzz dropped a reaver in Raven's army, but failed to do any dmg, lost a few goons as well... Raven proceeds further with his push... and further... Raven scanned Mistrzzz stargates, both armies clash a few moments after. Mistrzz was forced to retreat.
Arbiters up for Mistrzzz... didn't do anything. Raven 2-0 Mistrzzz.
I think the system would be much better if the finals in each country for wcg were like this : format all vs all bo3... i dont talk only for poland i mean all countries where in the finals are playing 8 ppl... what do u think ?
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote: And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
BM was unlucky in his games, he has already proven his skills. Sorry but you don't know shit about blackman and suddenly state that blackman sucks.
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote: And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
BM was unlucky in his games, he has already proven his skills. Sorry but you don't know shit about blackman and suddenly state that blackman sucks.
He didnt said blackman sucks, read again.. He said blackman dont have any chances vs the koreans, and thats true.. me and probably 90% of this board would agree with him...
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote: And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote: And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
impressiv how stupid some ppl are
Let's be all real now, Blackman was Godly good back in those days where he got 3rd at WCG. Nowadays he cannot compete against top koreans, IMO, his level is not the same, and as someone said before, his level wasn't up to par to win wcg. .
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote: And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
impressiv how stupid some ppl are
Ilvy, blackman - or any other zerg - obviously doesn't have any chance vs Midas, Iloveoov and Julyzerg
Raven vs Draco starts. Blackman is obsing, someone else is shoutcasting ;- ) The map is Gaia. Draco (P) spawned @ 2 o'clock, Raven (T) spawned @ 7 o'clock. Raven's playing without a wall-in, Draco is starting his range, 1 zealot is going to Raven's main, but he has scvs & rines on his ramp. Nevertheless, Raven lost 2 rines, Draco ran away with a one digit hp value zealot. Nothing interesting happening so far. Draco starts his robotic facility and 2nd gate, raven scouted this with an scv. Draco attempted to go up Raven's ramp, but was forced to retreat. Raven starts his expo, observer up for Draco. Raven has a startport with an add-on, but he doesnt build anything yet, except for this 2nd factory. Draco moving out. Lost one zeealot, killed 2 tanks. Neat! 3rd expo up for Draco, g2g for a bit, so no updates anymore unless someone else does them / I come back. Sorry guys!
I'm back, missed me? Raven has economical advantage, it seems. Draco has a few carriers. Draco has a few goons, a couple carriers, 2 stormers. Raven has a mix of factory units. Fighting on the middle...
If there's only one spot for Poland, I guess there's no point in me mourning the good zergs. Draco deserves the spot anyway. I'd like to think that nOtforu could last at least 15 min. against the Koreans, though :o
I mean, I'd hate it if the first siege tanks would kill notfOru (or a bunker rush), but that's what would be interesting to see - how he can resist. At least sEn, another brilliant zerg not being able to go as well (due to lack of qualifier) would have a chance.
Raven vs Draco 2nd game starts now @ PA. Draco spawns at 12, Raven's location I will keep a secret from you. Nothing interesting so far, except for Draco's zealot attacking Raven together with a probe, scv is reparing the supply depot, so no worries mates. 2 zealots at raven's wall-in. Raven starts building his factory; made a rine. 3 scv's reparing the wall-in. Goon came, but Raven made a bunker near his wall-in forcing Draco to retreat. No range for Draco yet, he keeps one of his goons near the mineral line, in case of a drop, I guess. Raven scouted Draco with a rine, Draco started building robo once he killed it. Both have a lot of workers, satuartion level is okey-dokey. Raven is building a supply depot in Dracos natural, delaying his expo a bit. Draco is double expoing, Ravens CC lands at his natural. Draco just lost 2 observers in a very gay way. Raven builds 2 more factories (a total of 3 vs Draco's 5 gates). Raven is once again delaying Draco's expo a bit with an scv. The brave worker dies and Draco starts building his 4th expo. Raven camps at his main. More factories, More expo's... *yawn*...Raven dropped 4 vulturs in Draco's main, microed a bit, killed a few probes, a few zealots, but it wasn't something really noteworthy... And another 4 vult drop. Raven starts his 4th expo. Draco is starting to build carriers - again. Deja vu; I need a coffee. 3rd stargate up for Draco. Raven begins his cloack tech - HE KNOWS! Please macro some more, it's not boring enough yet. Arbiter tribunal up for Draco. Just some little fights here and there... Raven's half of the map is full of turrets. Draco's attacking Raven's main with his carriers, he kills a couple of turrets / buildings, ran away from the wraiths. Both players seem to be waiting for all of the minerals disappear from the map or the end of the world, whichever comes faster. Draco recalled his army to Raven's main. Factories are being destroyed. Raven lost most of this wraiths, Draco has 4 carriers, 3 of them have been lockdowned by Raven, but he has no anti-air units to kill them with.
On September 09 2006 07:43 True_Spike wrote: Raven vs Draco 2nd game starts now @ PA. Draco spawns at 12, Raven's location I will keep a secret from you. Nothing interesting so far, except for Draco's zealot attacking Raven together with a probe, scv is reparing the supply depot, so no worries mates. 2 zealots at raven's wall-in. Raven starts building his factory; made a rine. 3 scv's reparing the wall-in. Goon came, but Raven made a bunker near his wall-in forcing Draco to retreat. No range for Draco yet, he keeps one of his goons near the mineral line, in case of a drop, I guess. Raven scouted Draco with a rine, Draco started building robo once he killed it. Both have a lot of workers, satuartion level is okey-dokey. Raven is building a supply depot in Dracos natural, delaying his expo a bit. Draco is double expoing, Ravens CC lands at his natural. Draco just lost 2 observers in a very gay way. Raven builds 2 more factories (a total of 3 vs Draco's 5 gates). Raven is once again delaying Draco's expo a bit with an scv. The brave worker dies and Draco starts building his 4th expo. Raven camps at his main. More factories, More expo's... *yawn*...Raven dropped 4 vulturs in Draco's main, microed a bit, killed a few probes, a few zealots, but it wasn't something really noteworthy... And another 4 vult drop. Raven starts his 4th expo. Draco is starting to build carriers - again. Deja vu; I need a coffee. 3rd stargate up for Draco. Raven begins his cloack tech - HE KNOWS! Please macro some more, it's not boring enough yet. Arbiter tribunal up for Draco. Just some little fights here and there... Raven's half of the map is full of turrets. Draco's attacking Raven's main with his carriers, he kills a couple of turrets / buildings, ran away from the wraiths. Both players seem to be waiting for all of the minerals disappear from the map or the end of the world, whichever comes faster. Draco recalled his army to Raven's main. Factories are being destroyed. Raven lost most of this wraiths, Draco has 4 carriers, 3 of them have been lockdowned by Raven, but he has no anti-air units to kill them with.
hah I used to like blackman back then, I'm not him of course, but his style. But last year it changed too much, maybe because his old style would not work today, maybe for any other reason, but just got boring to watch.
So this year I am hoping for Draco to go, and Blackman losing so early just shows he didn't practice enough. We all know he **could** win it all, at least make it to the final.
I'm not sure about the system, it's probably either bo5 or double bo3. In first case the LB winner has a 1-0 lead, in the 2nd case he has to win only one bo3. (in both cases he has to win 2 games, but in the 2nd scenario he can afford losing up to 3 games).
Just came back, it seems Raven vs Slider is already in progress. Raven seems to have a huge advantage due to Raven's constant harrass. No expo's yet. Raven has more units and scvs, he established a push just outside Slider's base. Raven started building an expo @ his natural. Raven rolled over Slider in this game... GG.
On September 09 2006 08:52 True_Spike wrote: Just came back, it seems Raven vs Slider is already in progress. Raven seems to have a huge advantage due to Raven's constant harrass. No expo's yet. Raven has more units and scvs, he established a push just outside Slider's base. Raven started building an expo @ his natural. Raven rolled over Slider in this game... GG.
Slider is zealot rushing Raven (yeah, the 2nd game began when I was not watching). Vulture is being made, while Slider just started to build his core. He didnt manage to break Raven's wall-in. Factory add-on for Raven, he started building a starport as well.. and add-on... Another attempt to brake Raven's wall-in, Slider was forced to retreat. He started building robo facility. Raven killed 2 probes with a lonely vulture. Raven is building 2 more factories and proceeds with a 4 vult drop. Slider is builindg robo support bay. RAVEN KILLED MOST OF SLIDERS PEONS WITH A SINGLE MINE (with the help of slider's goon). An all-in attack @ Raven's main... Raven managed to hold his wall-in, GG.
On September 09 2006 09:01 True_Spike wrote: Slider is zealot rushing Raven (yeah, the 2nd game began when I was not watching). Vulture is being made, while Slider just started to build his core. He didnt manage to break Raven's wall-in. Factory add-on for Raven, he started building a starport as well.. and add-on... Another attempt to brake Raven's wall-in, Slider was forced to retreat. He started building robo facility. Raven killed 2 probes with a lonely vulture. Raven is building 2 more factories and proceeds with a 4 vult drop. Slider is builindg robo support bay. RAVEN KILLED MOST OF SLIDERS PEONS WITH A SINGLE MINE (with the help of slider's goon). An all-in attack @ Raven's main... Raven managed to hold his wall-in, GG.
Raven > Slider 2-0
Grand Final: Draco (WB Winner) vs Raven (LB Winner) The winner goes to Monza and probably wins a small, silly & useless prize as well. Counter Strike folks proceed to shout their asses of for no apparent reason in the background. I believe the final will be played in a while, stay tuned
Raven vs Draco - Gaia. Draco spawned @ 12, Raven spawned right next to him. Draco starts his gateway, Raven started his barracks near his CC. Rafinery started for both Raven and Draco. Core started for Draco. Core done. His tech is a bit faster than that of Raven. 1/3 Factory... Rines blocked Draco's scout. 1st goon up for Draco, blocked Raven's scout. Barracks fly to Draco's base. 2nd gateway started for Draco - 2 gate range. Raven's starport is nearly finished. A mine blown up 3 rines and a goon... 2nd goon dead... Draco is microing his goons pretty good, both died to a mine without killing any more scvs. Blackman fended of some nasty TV reported wanting an interview and proceeds with the commentary. Expo up for Draco, Raven is trying to use his dropship somehow, but there are no openings in Draco's defence. Raven is microing his vultures in Draco's main, killing probes...2...4...5. Vultures dead, another drop coming. 2 goons in Draco's main defending the probes. Draco's micro is amazing today; Raven failed to do much damage. A fight just outside Draco's nat, he managed to fend off terran forces. Stepped on a mine with 2 goons, lame! Draco attacks... Awesome micro display. Raven has nothing to defend himself with, but he dropped Draco's main meanwhile. Draco's goons killed over 30 units, that's how good his micro is. Raven is trying to defend himself, but he's just loosing units...gg
On September 09 2006 09:20 True_Spike wrote: Raven vs Draco - Gaia. Draco spawned @ 12, Raven spawned right next to him. Draco starts his gateway, Raven started his barracks near his CC. Rafinery started for both Raven and Draco. Core started for Draco. Core done. His tech is a bit faster than that of Raven. 1/3 Factory... Rines blocked Draco's scout. 1st goon up for Draco, blocked Raven's scout. Barracks fly to Draco's base. 2nd gateway started for Draco - 2 gate range. Raven's starport is nearly finished. A mine blown up 3 rines and a goon... 2nd goon dead... Draco is microing his goons pretty good, both died to a mine without killing any more scvs. Blackman fended of some nasty TV reported wanting an interview and proceeds with the commentary. Expo up for Draco, Raven is trying to use his dropship somehow, but there are no openings in Draco's defence. Raven is microing his vultures in Draco's main, killing probes...2...4...5. Vultures dead, another drop coming. 2 goons in Draco's main defending the probes. Draco's micro is amazing today; Raven failed to do much damage. A fight just outside Draco's nat, he managed to fend off terran forces. Stepped on a mine with 2 goons, lame! Draco attacks... Awesome micro display. Raven has nothing to defend himself with, but he dropped Draco's main meanwhile. Draco's goons killed over 30 units, that's how good his micro is. Raven is trying to defend himself, but he's just loosing units...gg
Next map: Azalea. Raven is uploading the replay from the game @ netwars.pl, you can download it in a few seconds. Draco only needs 1 more win. As blackman himself just said - Draco really deserves to win this year, Raven is in awesome shape as well, but Draco is far better than anyone present here, at WCG.
On September 09 2006 09:30 True_Spike wrote: Next map: Azalea. Raven is uploading the replay from the game @ netwars.pl, you can download it in a few seconds. Draco only needs 1 more win. As blackman himself just said - Draco really deserves to win this year, Raven is in awesome shape as well, but Draco is far better than anyone present here, at WCG.
Raven is starting his wall-in, didn't hear anything about the potitions though. Core building for Draco, he seems to be doing the same he did previously so far. Draco attacks Raven's depot with a zealot, but Raven has 1 rine. First goon came and Draco attacks again. Raven is building his tank, and is doing something with his machine shop. 2nd fact + add-on up. 2nd goon came, depot down. Raven defends imself with a vulture. Draco is sending all his troops to Raven's main; again - perfect micro. Observers are being build meanwhile, as well as a new expo. Dreamscar - I know, but I didnt saw the 2nd fact before =D. Raven sent his vulture to Draco. Raven killed 2 goons, but a couple of vultures died. Raven starts his expo. Vulture passed Draco's goons and proceeds to lay mines and kill probes, but managed to kill only 2 of them. Draco moved out with his entire army. Draco lost his entire force, Raven managed to defend himself, but Draco is attacking again with his new army. Hi Micro Raven managed to kill 2 more probes with a lone vulture again. Raven is expoing at his min only. 3 tanks fight with a goon army, but "it seems like they are immortal". A mine blowed up on 2 goons and a bunch of scv's. A tank for Raven and a shuttle for Draco. No idea about the unit count. Draco is outmicroing Raven in every single encounter. 6 goons + 2 more in the shuttle - another attack. And again mines seem to do the job, but more goons are coming. Raven has vultures only. 4 goons + a zealot vs tank + vultures. More units coming. He's keeping the pressure, he made templar archives meanwhile. Raven's getting raped, despite his awesome micro, but Draco's simply better. Draco has 6 gateways, speed should be up for him soon. Raven is just defending himself, there is absolutely nothing he can do. He has 4 tanks atm, but the leg upgrade just finished. He ran up his tanks, hoping for some mines to blow the tanks up, but there are no mines there. Zealots and 2 stormers coming. 1 tank died...2nd ... 3rd one is still alive, 2 storms ... tanks die. But even more units came. There are tons of zealots/goons dying, but he's keeping the pressure on Raven anyways. 8 gates vs 4 factories. Raven builds his supply depots on his choke. Zeal/goon/ht army attacking... not yet, it seems. Raven scouted Draco's expo with a lonely vulture and managed to kill 4 probes before it died. Draco's powering, Raven as well, but his eco is worse, so he's forced to harras his opponent somehow. Raven scanned Draco's army... he's moving out... both armies clash at Raven's choke...storms... Draco killed almost all of Raven's scvs at his expo and most of Raven's mainforce... Draco has 5 expos running, Raven only 2. Draco has 14 gateways working non-stop. It doesn't look too good for Raven... he's moving out with his army of tanks/vultures.. Draco attacks with hallucinated zealots and a small force. Another attack... storms... Raven contained Draco, but it doesnt seem like he will be able to maintain it for long. Draco keeps building gateways at his expo's. He broke the contain and attacks Raven's base. GG
On September 09 2006 09:30 True_Spike wrote: Next map: Azalea. Raven is uploading the replay from the game @ netwars.pl, you can download it in a few seconds. Draco only needs 1 more win. As blackman himself just said - Draco really deserves to win this year, Raven is in awesome shape as well, but Draco is far better than anyone present here, at WCG.
Raven is starting his wall-in, didn't hear anything about the potitions though. Core building for Draco, he seems to be doing the same he did previously so far. Draco attacks Raven's depot with a zealot, but Raven has 1 rine. First goon came and Draco attacks again. Raven is building his tank, and is doing something with his machine shop. 2nd fact + add-on up. 2nd goon came, depot down. Raven defends imself with a vulture. Draco is sending all his troops to Raven's main; again - perfect micro. Observers are being build meanwhile, as well as a new expo. Dreamscar - I know, but I didnt saw the 2nd fact before =D. Raven sent his vulture to Draco. Raven killed 2 goons, but a couple of vultures died. Raven starts his expo. Vulture passed Draco's goons and proceeds to lay mines and kill probes, but managed to kill only 2 of them. Draco moved out with his entire army. Draco lost his entire force, Raven managed to defend himself, but Draco is attacking again with his new army. Hi Micro Raven managed to kill 2 more probes with a lone vulture again. Raven is expoing at his min only. 3 tanks fight with a goon army, but "it seems like they are immortal". A mine blowed up on 2 goons and a bunch of scv's. A tank for Raven and a shuttle for Draco. No idea about the unit count. Draco is outmicroing Raven in every single encounter. 6 goons + 2 more in the shuttle - another attack. And again mines seem to do the job, but more goons are coming. Raven has vultures only. 4 goons + a zealot vs tank + vultures. More units coming. He's keeping the pressure, he made templar archives meanwhile. Raven's getting raped, despite his awesome micro, but Draco's simply better. Draco has 6 gateways, speed should be up for him soon. Raven is just defending himself, there is absolutely nothing he can do. He has 4 tanks atm, but the leg upgrade just finished. He ran up his tanks, hoping for some mines to blow the tanks up, but there are no mines there. Zealots and 2 stormers coming. 1 tank died...2nd ... 3rd one is still alive, 2 storms ... tanks die. But even more units came. There are tons of zealots/goons dying, but he's keeping the pressure on Raven anyways. 8 gates vs 4 factories. Raven builds his supply depots on his choke. Zeal/goon/ht army attacking... not yet, it seems. Raven scouted Draco's expo with a lonely vulture and managed to kill 4 probes before it died. Draco's powering, Raven as well, but his eco is worse, so he's forced to harras his opponent somehow. Raven scanned Draco's army... he's moving out... both armies clash at Raven's choke...storms... Draco killed almost all of Raven's scvs at his expo and most of Raven's mainforce... Draco has 5 expos running, Raven only 2. Draco has 14 gateways working non-stop. It doesn't look too good for Raven... he's moving out with his army of tanks/vultures.. Draco attacks with hallucinated zealots and a small force. Another attack... storms... Raven contained Draco, but it doesnt seem like he will be able to maintain it for long. Draco keeps building gateways at his expo's. He broke the contain and attacks Raven's base. GG
Draco wins, Draco's the champion. Draco > Raven 3-0 Grand Final Replays up @ netwars.pl and the bracket posted here earlier.
On September 09 2006 11:01 Ilintar wrote: He has all those weird nicks like "ZWYCIEZCA WCG POLSKA" etc. All the nicks you can't identify are probably his :>
On September 09 2006 11:50 Rekrul wrote: how can you have 5 commnd centers and only 5 factories ? : [
NTT once had 6 CC and 3 factories :D he also maxed with like 30 tanks, 140 scvs and mass turrets everywhere. he lost to carriers while having mined x2 what toss mined....
Well I guess Draco deserves it. Im happy for him. Would have been nice to follow some other polish gamers as well. Their roster is insane. Blackman, Raven, Suncow, Tomson(retired?), Spawn, sYs, Dunaj(retired?), Hullah, Avernum, Fizban(retired?), Pako, Zyneck, Slider, Mario, Majtek, Macia, Paranoid, Falcon, Gohan, K A Z I O W I C H U R A etcetc neverending I probably forgot some too
yeah, some study, some play poker, some work, some dunno. I think Sutek, Thunder, KaGieBe(plays 2v2 for pol sometimes), Polo, Psycho_Dad[SSF]&Miras[SSF], Matrox(old times pol-team captain), Skorpion(GN)&Ader(GN), Twins&Floe, Mixer&SzybkiLopez, Boban&ReDMaN are worth mentioning ;-)
Draco is a muh fuckn badass. He decides to be a pro-gamer and does it. He decides to win Poland WCG and wins it. What next? I REALLY look forward to a Draco top 4 finish. I think he can do it. If not, at least top 8, dependant on brackets of course.
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote: And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
BM was unlucky in his games, he has already proven his skills. Sorry but you don't know shit about blackman and suddenly state that blackman sucks.
I've been following the starcraft gaming scene for more than 3 years. I've said in a previous topic that Blackman had already proven he is a talented player ( beating Oddysay back in 2002 ) but now, in 2006, I maintain it was completely irrealistic to say he had a chance vs the koreans and his results at WCG poland clearly proved my point. That's all ..
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote: And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
impressiv how stupid some ppl are
You need a serious reality check honey :/ And I wasn't trying to offense anyone so chill out plz THANKS -____-;
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote: And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
BM was unlucky in his games, he has already proven his skills. Sorry but you don't know shit about blackman and suddenly state that blackman sucks.
I've been following the starcraft gaming scene for more than 3 years. I've said in a previous topic that Blackman had already proven he is a talented player ( beating Oddysay back in 2002 ) but now, in 2006, I maintain it was completely irrealistic to say he had a chance vs the koreans and his results at WCG poland clearly proved my point. That's all ..
QFT.
At that lan party about 1-2 months ago in Hungary Blackman got beaten by a random zerg (or at least one I never heard about) and Shaman (who's good, don't get me wrong, but it seemed too easy for Shaman). Then this happens at WCG, and still you guys claim he could have beaten koreeans and stuff. Well you're obviously wrong. Just because he was once great doesn't mean he'll always be great. How far do you think Tsunami would make it if he'll re-start playing. How about Grrrr? Grrrr said it himself, that he would have no chance against koreeans, because today's play level is too high.
So what I'm saying is: Judge Blackman's current skill by what he accomplishes now, not by what he accomplished before. I'm not saying he can't do it, but he DOES need a lot of practice to be great again.
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote: And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
impressiv how stupid some ppl are
You need a serious reality check honey :/ And I wasn't trying to offense anyone so chill out plz THANKS -____-;
Do not call me honey , i am not one of your inet bitches. Beside of i have no reality problem i dislike just these kind of arrogant and sarcastic posts ^^
On September 09 2006 12:02 IntoTheWow wrote: Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.
What do you mean? The games I watched were even for the most part.
have you seen the finals? draco just outplays raven in every fight so bad. Mines did more harm to Raven that good. Draco goon control was very good.
Uhu, I've seen all the games. But you act like raven was miles behind him in terms of skill, I think raven put up an excellent fight, yes, he did seem to slip a bit come midgame but if you watch the first game on gaia they played, he was winning.
And the second game on gaia he very well could have won if his dropship feint had worked
Yes, draco was 1 step ahead in micro and macro (especially keeping it up) but the games were still between two relatively even opponents.
On September 09 2006 06:23 ChApFoU wrote: And know since I'm a nice guy I will refrain mysefl from laughing hard at all the guys who said Blackman had a chance vs the koreans :D
impressiv how stupid some ppl are
You need a serious reality check honey :/ And I wasn't trying to offense anyone so chill out plz THANKS -____-;
Do not call me honey , i am not one of your inet bitches. Beside of i have no reality problem i dislike just these kind of arrogant and sarcastic posts ^^
the arrogance is well deserved. blackman used to be great and i liked his play alot, but anyone who currently thinks hes capable of beating progamers should be laughed at.
On September 09 2006 12:02 IntoTheWow wrote: Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.
What do you mean? The games I watched were even for the most part.
have you seen the finals? draco just outplays raven in every fight so bad. Mines did more harm to Raven that good. Draco goon control was very good.
Yeah I like how he uses his goon w/ mine to blow up 3 marines + scv and continues to use mines to hurt raven like no tomorrow. In the last game though I think Draco set rally point into Raven's main and he made like at least 20 shitty littke attacks before he manage to win haha :p
Thats what i mean. Even you dont see many flaws in Ravens play (management wise mainly), you see some flaws in dracos strategy (like sending small attacks that he knew would work, or attacks with 4 zealots and 4 hts) and still draco wins :S
On September 10 2006 17:26 IntoTheWow wrote: Thats what i mean. Even you dont see many flaws in Ravens play (management wise mainly), you see some flaws in dracos strategy (like sending small attacks that he knew would work, or attacks with 4 zealots and 4 hts) and still draco wins :S
I actually think Raven opens very strongly but then gets too scared (maybe because it's draco)/can't keep up in middle game, so that's a flaw I guess.
The azalea game was just pure art micro tho.. He got himself a pretty big advantage when he killed the wall and the tank and could afford to play it like that I guess.
dracos small attacks were to not let raven get all sieged up, by trading units draco could keep raven count low and he knew he could macro better than raven so, trading units paid off nicely =p
also, the small attacks of draco were about trading goons for scv's, and vultures and some mines. I liked that game a lot. Draco lost goons, but the economy advantage continued growing up.
On September 09 2006 12:02 IntoTheWow wrote: Draco toyed around with Raven so bad.
What do you mean? The games I watched were even for the most part.
have you seen the finals? draco just outplays raven in every fight so bad. Mines did more harm to Raven that good. Draco goon control was very good.
Uhu, I've seen all the games. But you act like raven was miles behind him in terms of skill, I think raven put up an excellent fight, yes, he did seem to slip a bit come midgame but if you watch the first game on gaia they played, he was winning.
And the second game on gaia he very well could have won if his dropship feint had worked
Yes, draco was 1 step ahead in micro and macro (especially keeping it up) but the games were still between two relatively even opponents.
hmm... i really thought that raven played VERY well in the WB vs draco.. then in the finals it looked like he just got toyed with.. i enjoyed the games nonetheless
I looked at that damn pic for like 5 minutes. And my conclusion is as follows.
Stands like a boy. Dresses like a boy. Boyish but not mannish hands/arms. Backpack... can that be called a point for a boy? 3.5 for boy.
Hair like a girl. Eyebrows like a girl. Girly necklace. Neck and skin around neck look softer, more like a girl / Adams apple, if any, is not blatantly obvious / zipped down shirt. 4 for girl.
That common plain unisex face that 20,000,000 white people have. 1 for transgender. I'm calling it a girl with $10 on the line.
If not a boy... who is really, really, really confused and is going to spend a lot on therapy and a full operation.
this polish wcg every year confuses meagain and again 2003 blackman was beaten 2004 a guy who was c1 in wgt wins the spot (kazio) beats draco in final 2005 blackman beats everyone again like in 2002 this year they have a progamer who wins the spot and a fucking picture i am looking over 10 minutes is this guy/girl i call it it now behind draco paranoid s sister ?
On September 11 2006 13:16 ToT)Testie( wrote: Oh common. Lips in that first picture look unisex. Draco's lips look more kissably soft than hers in that pic. And it's true too.. look at them. ;-)