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CrystalDrag
Profile Joined July 2010
173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-22 01:49:04
August 22 2013 01:40 GMT
#121
Yes i assumed Sin 815 III would be used... the one art_of_turtle provided was II. But i am sure many of the tank holes as displayed may be present..
Neo Wind and Cloud - ICCup map version has bugs, and 3 and 9 have been changed.. I cannot tell, i thought the latest version was 2.21 but i may be messing up.
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
August 22 2013 01:49 GMT
#122
Oh, didn't even realize that there were Siege Tanks laid out in the picture, haha...
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 22 2013 02:24 GMT
#123
Thanks for checking the maps out CrystalDrag.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 22 2013 03:50 GMT
#124
On August 22 2013 10:40 CrystalDrag wrote:
Yes i assumed Sin 815 III would be used... the one art_of_turtle provided was II. But i am sure many of the tank holes as displayed may be present..
Neo Wind and Cloud - ICCup map version has bugs, and 3 and 9 have been changed.. I cannot tell, i thought the latest version was 2.21 but i may be messing up.


can we use the korean version of W&C?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
August 22 2013 04:42 GMT
#125
pretty sure we're supposed to be using the korean version of wnc. the correct version is also in the mappack art of turtle uploaded.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1203 Posts
August 22 2013 05:28 GMT
#126
I took the 815 version off BWMN but the Korean 2.2 version is the correct one in the map pack.
Flash should fear Sacsri
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
August 22 2013 08:08 GMT
#127
So uh, what's up with this week's rosters? :-)
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
August 22 2013 08:15 GMT
#128
Lineups aren't due until 18:59 GMT (+00:00) on Thursday, so they probably won't be revealed until Friday.
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L1ghtning
Profile Joined July 2013
Sweden353 Posts
August 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#129
On August 22 2013 00:30 pebble444 wrote:
The reason why this is called DRTL is not D ranks team league, Its Drama ranks team league.

Honestly if you look at His performance in DRIT and past DRTL, he is legit to play. Even in his games vs me in the captains league, my impression was (and has always been) D+/C- . When i play vs a C rank player its very different.

If Marine is not allowed to play, then i suggest the 10 Elo rank players in this league should not play either. IMO The marine should be allowed to play, or else it would be ridicoulous, not dropping the real top players.

There is rank, but also archievements in individual and league tournaments. Rank alone means nothing. What about people that don' t ladder then?

This league is not anymore only D/D-/D+ rank players. So i suggest just going with the flow and accepting that, as many people are doing.

Pebble, just because there are potential cheaters doesn't mean that we should abolish all the rules. We all know that a few players here could probably reach C if they just tried, and possibly some of them have, on smurfs, but have chosen to keep it a secret. But since we don't have anything more than a suspicion, we can't just kick out players simply for being successful. Well, maybe we should do that, remove players like prophecy, simply because of his results, but that's never been done before in the history of this league, so it's something that would have to be discussed.

TheMarine though, is a crystal clear case. We have chosen to allow players who just dinged C-, if they struggle to keep it. If you can reach C though, you're beyond that and can't say you're D+/C- anymore.

Anyway, the most successful player isn't necessarily the best, as we all have different playing styles. Some styles are more effective against lower level players, while some styles are more effective against higher level players, so the fact that TheMarine isn't the most successful player in the league, doesn't have to mean that he's not one of the best ladderers. When you ladder, you have to play against players that are C and above too, and I think his style would translate well against those opponents, compared with other protoss players in the league who have more abusive playing styles.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
August 22 2013 17:27 GMT
#130
On August 22 2013 10:35 CrystalDrag wrote:
Why Sin 815 should not be used...
[image loading]


Those tanks!!!

I tried to see if this problem still exists on 815 lll. Either I'm really bad at placing tanks in those holes or there are "only" 7-8 tank holes left in the current version of the map. Out of those only 2 were in reach of something of significance. One of them feels fairly nasty though.
However, I don't think it's really game-breaking...
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 22 2013 17:49 GMT
#131
Just PM'd Courage's Week 1 lineup to L_Master. Let me know if there are any problems with that avenue of lineup submission.

On the subject of "trying": At least half the players in this league can reach C, or higher, if they "tried" for a given value of "trying." The current contracted iCCup population does distort laddering, but people can at least attain that skill level. Why haven't we? Because we almost all invariably have other priorities that keep us in the state of "casual" BW player. Arb has his League of Legends and his alcohol, Nagisama has his Counterstrike, other people have their studies or their jobs. No one in this league is truly "trying" for the maximum amount of effort possible. And that's fine. I'm sure we all love BW, but I doubt any of us can afford to play it for over 10 hours a day. ...Hell most people don't even play BW for 10 hours in a week.

In case people suspect I've hit some high rank on a smurf and am trying to hide it: I heard someone on iCCup staff also suspected this and conducted IP checks. I'm not sure whether to be flattered or offended, but I heard of nothing further from that line of investigation, probably because no such event ever occurred.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Arca(Crema)
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain44 Posts
August 22 2013 17:57 GMT
#132
We have added [Sam]Gohan to our roster, he is D+ Terran and his TL ID is Pit667.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 22 2013 18:04 GMT
#133
We have removed Elem from the premises our roster.
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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 22 2013 23:03 GMT
#134
Any teams need a backup protoss? Getting back into bw

iCCup account: mmahirr
Race:
Rank: Currently D probably... sigh
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/mmahirr.html
Jaedong.
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
August 22 2013 23:50 GMT
#135
Okay. Now i understand.
Balls of steel
GLHF Themarine
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 01:41:58
August 23 2013 01:40 GMT
#136
On August 23 2013 02:49 EchOne wrote:
Just PM'd Courage's Week 1 lineup to L_Master. Let me know if there are any problems with that avenue of lineup submission.

On the subject of "trying": At least half the players in this league can reach C, or higher, if they "tried" for a given value of "trying." The current contracted iCCup population does distort laddering, but people can at least attain that skill level. Why haven't we? Because we almost all invariably have other priorities that keep us in the state of "casual" BW player. Arb has his League of Legends and his alcohol, Nagisama has his Counterstrike, other people have their studies or their jobs. No one in this league is truly "trying" for the maximum amount of effort possible. And that's fine. I'm sure we all love BW, but I doubt any of us can afford to play it for over 10 hours a day. ...Hell most people don't even play BW for 10 hours in a week.

In case people suspect I've hit some high rank on a smurf and am trying to hide it: I heard someone on iCCup staff also suspected this and conducted IP checks. I'm not sure whether to be flattered or offended, but I heard of nothing further from that line of investigation, probably because no such event ever occurred.


i don't think anyone is trying to say that people in DRTL are capable of becoming C skill if they played an extra 10 hours a day. what they are trying to say is that people in DRTL are capable of hitting "C" if they laddered the number of games required to hit C right now, and that they just play 10 games a season on ladder and claim "oh i'm only d+, i can't even reach c-"

seriously look at how themarine plays. he's not nearly as good as babo or i, and he gets destroyed by birdie in funny games, and his elo ranking compared to the rest of DRTL reflects that
lightson
Profile Joined July 2010
45 Posts
August 23 2013 01:49 GMT
#137
Has an official map pack been been posted on this thread? I can't find anything in the first couple of posts. With all these different versions of maps like 815, wind and cloud, pamir, etc, it'd be nice for an one to be uploaded so we don't have any problems concern wrong versions of maps being used when the time actually comes to play games.

Thanks!
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
August 23 2013 01:58 GMT
#138
On August 23 2013 10:49 lightson wrote:
Has an official map pack been been posted on this thread? I can't find anything in the first couple of posts. With all these different versions of maps like 815, wind and cloud, pamir, etc, it'd be nice for an one to be uploaded so we don't have any problems concern wrong versions of maps being used when the time actually comes to play games.

Thanks!

On August 22 2013 05:47 art_of_turtle wrote:
Here is the Map pack and ill get L-Master to put it in the OP.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67688134/DRTL 5 Map Pack.rar

Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Arca(Crema)
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain44 Posts
August 23 2013 02:24 GMT
#139
We have added mmahirr to our roster, he is D Protoss and his TL ID is Kal_ra.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 04:50:56
August 23 2013 04:49 GMT
#140
I haven't had consistent internet access in 2 weeks. ._. SC break after getting murdered by Rulzbooom. Be warned, I've been in Thailand (not actually lol).
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