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On March 28 2013 11:04 SynC[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 10:59 Nagisama wrote:
They lost L3g and Artanis, Hyeon is non-existent. Well, with Hyeon, because DRTL starts later compared to DRATL, that means he has to stay up until 5 in the morning to get his games in. Plus, even though he wanted to play during Week 3, he ended up being hospitalized and will be for quite awhile.
oh right, forgot he lives in Korea.
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On March 28 2013 10:58 SynC[gm] wrote:Like Lmaster said, in all fairness, we went from sTAKKed back to TAKK once L3gendary and Artanis left, in respectable fashion. Plus, not that I'm saying I was expecting us to lose or anything, but I mean, most of it was hype more than anything, unfortunately.
Yeah, the loss of both L3g and Artanis hurts alot.
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On March 28 2013 11:04 SynC[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 10:59 Nagisama wrote:
They lost L3g and Artanis, Hyeon is non-existent. Well, with Hyeon, because DRTL starts later compared to DRATL, that means he has to stay up until 5 in the morning to get his games in. Plus, even though he wanted to play during Week 3, he ended up being hospitalized and will be for quite awhile.
I hope he feels better, send him some love from DR!
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On March 28 2013 12:04 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 10:58 SynC[gm] wrote:On March 28 2013 10:56 fabiano wrote:What is happening to TAKK? oO Like Lmaster said, in all fairness, we went from sTAKKed back to TAKK once L3gendary and Artanis left, in respectable fashion. Plus, not that I'm saying I was expecting us to lose or anything, but I mean, most of it was hype more than anything, unfortunately. Yeah, the loss of both L3g and Artanis hurts alot.
In truth, I think it's also fair to say we haven't fielded our strongest lineups either. We fielded a pretty good one against you guys, but the first two definitely featured some of less decorated players.
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So long as I play the race I practiced for you can expect me to turn TAKK's situation around. ;]
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On March 28 2013 15:31 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 12:04 Sentenal wrote:On March 28 2013 10:58 SynC[gm] wrote:On March 28 2013 10:56 fabiano wrote:What is happening to TAKK? oO Like Lmaster said, in all fairness, we went from sTAKKed back to TAKK once L3gendary and Artanis left, in respectable fashion. Plus, not that I'm saying I was expecting us to lose or anything, but I mean, most of it was hype more than anything, unfortunately. Yeah, the loss of both L3g and Artanis hurts alot. In truth, I think it's also fair to say we haven't fielded our strongest lineups either. We fielded a pretty good one against you guys, but the first two definitely featured some of less decorated players.
As one of the weaker players in this league, I'm glad to see teams attempting to field all their players instead of just trying to 5-0 every week. Obviously, should still be trying to win, but I mean willing to take risks for the sake of us bad players 
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On March 28 2013 15:59 KazeHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 15:31 L_Master wrote:On March 28 2013 12:04 Sentenal wrote:On March 28 2013 10:58 SynC[gm] wrote:On March 28 2013 10:56 fabiano wrote:What is happening to TAKK? oO Like Lmaster said, in all fairness, we went from sTAKKed back to TAKK once L3gendary and Artanis left, in respectable fashion. Plus, not that I'm saying I was expecting us to lose or anything, but I mean, most of it was hype more than anything, unfortunately. Yeah, the loss of both L3g and Artanis hurts alot. In truth, I think it's also fair to say we haven't fielded our strongest lineups either. We fielded a pretty good one against you guys, but the first two definitely featured some of less decorated players. As one of the weaker players in this league, I'm glad to see teams attempting to field all their players instead of just trying to 5-0 every week. Obviously, should still be trying to win, but I mean willing to take risks for the sake of us bad players
Honestly I'd be somewhat...disgruntled if a team played the same 5 players every week just because they were the best, even with weaker players eager to play. If it were a top level or professional league I could understand playing the best players every time but for a league like this, while winning is excellent, it's more about practicing and improving and learning to play in pressure situations (e.g. tours and leagues) and scouting opponents and trying to trick your other team and so on. And everyone on the team needs that, particularly the weaker players, so in conclusion anyone who plays their best team every week is somewhat lame.
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i disagree i think winning is great :D
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On March 28 2013 16:22 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 15:59 KazeHydra wrote:On March 28 2013 15:31 L_Master wrote:On March 28 2013 12:04 Sentenal wrote:On March 28 2013 10:58 SynC[gm] wrote:On March 28 2013 10:56 fabiano wrote:What is happening to TAKK? oO Like Lmaster said, in all fairness, we went from sTAKKed back to TAKK once L3gendary and Artanis left, in respectable fashion. Plus, not that I'm saying I was expecting us to lose or anything, but I mean, most of it was hype more than anything, unfortunately. Yeah, the loss of both L3g and Artanis hurts alot. In truth, I think it's also fair to say we haven't fielded our strongest lineups either. We fielded a pretty good one against you guys, but the first two definitely featured some of less decorated players. As one of the weaker players in this league, I'm glad to see teams attempting to field all their players instead of just trying to 5-0 every week. Obviously, should still be trying to win, but I mean willing to take risks for the sake of us bad players Honestly I'd be somewhat...disgruntled if a team played the same 5 players every week just because they were the best, even with weaker players eager to play. If it were a top level or professional league I could understand playing the best players every time but for a league like this, while winning is excellent, it's more about practicing and improving and learning to play in pressure situations (e.g. tours and leagues) and scouting opponents and trying to trick your other team and so on. And everyone on the team needs that, particularly the weaker players, so in conclusion anyone who plays their best team every week is somewhat lame.
What about looking at it like the way teams did it in the real proleague? A team, B team, practice partners (I guess we can omit this last one). Only the A team can be fielded, because well damn they are the best. The B team helps them refine builds, practice, etc. and therefore the B team players improve and the A team gets practice and win games. Winning games means you get to have a little leeway when you know you've made the play offs, so you can send out the rookies for the last match or two, like how SKT sent out Boxer when they had secured a spot in PO. Then during PO, the chances that you have 7 players on your A team (for a Bo7) is rather unlikely, so these B teamers who have been practicing on the league maps and against players much stronger than them now have even more chances to be fielded and even more practice because the team has another match to play (with higher stakes).
Of course, if someone really wants to play, saying no is just silly ^^ Don't get me wrong. But, my point is that I doubt a happy-go-lucky approach to the league and line-up is BETTER for a team and its players' improvement than a competitive one. It certainly isn't better for their results xD In a game that is mostly based on skill, in a league that runs based on results, it seems pretty stupid to NOT have a meritocracy in mind when creating line-ups.
This is why Sun Khan is thinking about using our practice KotH results :'D
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I actually rather like that idea. In house tournaments could produce a preferential list of players to be fielded. 
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I think different teams have different goals and philosophies. Hundreds of thousands of dollars aren't on the line for this league, so I think the variety is nice and interesting. Personally, I try to give my rookies some play time to a.) give them a taste of mental pressure in a match that matters and b.) inspire them to practice more. I want them to know that with hard work, they can make a difference.
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inhouse tournaments sound actually amazing I gotta implement this idea into my team
me likey !!!
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Damn shouldn't have revealed our secret ><;
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As long as said inhouse tournament doesn't last for a month
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On March 29 2013 01:26 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2013 16:22 Birdie wrote:On March 28 2013 15:59 KazeHydra wrote:On March 28 2013 15:31 L_Master wrote:On March 28 2013 12:04 Sentenal wrote:On March 28 2013 10:58 SynC[gm] wrote:On March 28 2013 10:56 fabiano wrote:What is happening to TAKK? oO Like Lmaster said, in all fairness, we went from sTAKKed back to TAKK once L3gendary and Artanis left, in respectable fashion. Plus, not that I'm saying I was expecting us to lose or anything, but I mean, most of it was hype more than anything, unfortunately. Yeah, the loss of both L3g and Artanis hurts alot. In truth, I think it's also fair to say we haven't fielded our strongest lineups either. We fielded a pretty good one against you guys, but the first two definitely featured some of less decorated players. As one of the weaker players in this league, I'm glad to see teams attempting to field all their players instead of just trying to 5-0 every week. Obviously, should still be trying to win, but I mean willing to take risks for the sake of us bad players Honestly I'd be somewhat...disgruntled if a team played the same 5 players every week just because they were the best, even with weaker players eager to play. If it were a top level or professional league I could understand playing the best players every time but for a league like this, while winning is excellent, it's more about practicing and improving and learning to play in pressure situations (e.g. tours and leagues) and scouting opponents and trying to trick your other team and so on. And everyone on the team needs that, particularly the weaker players, so in conclusion anyone who plays their best team every week is somewhat lame. What about looking at it like the way teams did it in the real proleague? A team, B team, practice partners (I guess we can omit this last one). Only the A team can be fielded, because well damn they are the best. The B team helps them refine builds, practice, etc. and therefore the B team players improve and the A team gets practice and win games. Winning games means you get to have a little leeway when you know you've made the play offs, so you can send out the rookies for the last match or two, like how SKT sent out Boxer when they had secured a spot in PO. Then during PO, the chances that you have 7 players on your A team (for a Bo7) is rather unlikely, so these B teamers who have been practicing on the league maps and against players much stronger than them now have even more chances to be fielded and even more practice because the team has another match to play (with higher stakes). Of course, if someone really wants to play, saying no is just silly ^^ Don't get me wrong. But, my point is that I doubt a happy-go-lucky approach to the league and line-up is BETTER for a team and its players' improvement than a competitive one. It certainly isn't better for their results xD In a game that is mostly based on skill, in a league that runs based on results, it seems pretty stupid to NOT have a meritocracy in mind when creating line-ups. This is why Sun Khan is thinking about using our practice KotH results :'D
This is the D ranks teamleague. Let's keep things in perspective. Neither of the players in this league is any good, compared to the highest levels. The point of this league is to give lower ranked players a chance to compete at our own level. I don't understand why you would give more playtime to your high D+ players at the expense of your D/D- players. If you do, you're cheating the weaker players of the experience. Every player should ideally be playing equally, otherwise the captain isn't doing his job imo. And I'm saying ideally, because some players are just not as active as others, and thus can't be expected to play as often as others.
I've never decided Ace's lineup based on performance, except for the two playoff rounds last season, but I figured it made sense to top the team in the playoffs.
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On March 29 2013 05:18 ninini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 01:26 Jealous wrote:On March 28 2013 16:22 Birdie wrote:On March 28 2013 15:59 KazeHydra wrote:On March 28 2013 15:31 L_Master wrote:On March 28 2013 12:04 Sentenal wrote:On March 28 2013 10:58 SynC[gm] wrote:On March 28 2013 10:56 fabiano wrote:What is happening to TAKK? oO Like Lmaster said, in all fairness, we went from sTAKKed back to TAKK once L3gendary and Artanis left, in respectable fashion. Plus, not that I'm saying I was expecting us to lose or anything, but I mean, most of it was hype more than anything, unfortunately. Yeah, the loss of both L3g and Artanis hurts alot. In truth, I think it's also fair to say we haven't fielded our strongest lineups either. We fielded a pretty good one against you guys, but the first two definitely featured some of less decorated players. As one of the weaker players in this league, I'm glad to see teams attempting to field all their players instead of just trying to 5-0 every week. Obviously, should still be trying to win, but I mean willing to take risks for the sake of us bad players Honestly I'd be somewhat...disgruntled if a team played the same 5 players every week just because they were the best, even with weaker players eager to play. If it were a top level or professional league I could understand playing the best players every time but for a league like this, while winning is excellent, it's more about practicing and improving and learning to play in pressure situations (e.g. tours and leagues) and scouting opponents and trying to trick your other team and so on. And everyone on the team needs that, particularly the weaker players, so in conclusion anyone who plays their best team every week is somewhat lame. What about looking at it like the way teams did it in the real proleague? A team, B team, practice partners (I guess we can omit this last one). Only the A team can be fielded, because well damn they are the best. The B team helps them refine builds, practice, etc. and therefore the B team players improve and the A team gets practice and win games. Winning games means you get to have a little leeway when you know you've made the play offs, so you can send out the rookies for the last match or two, like how SKT sent out Boxer when they had secured a spot in PO. Then during PO, the chances that you have 7 players on your A team (for a Bo7) is rather unlikely, so these B teamers who have been practicing on the league maps and against players much stronger than them now have even more chances to be fielded and even more practice because the team has another match to play (with higher stakes). Of course, if someone really wants to play, saying no is just silly ^^ Don't get me wrong. But, my point is that I doubt a happy-go-lucky approach to the league and line-up is BETTER for a team and its players' improvement than a competitive one. It certainly isn't better for their results xD In a game that is mostly based on skill, in a league that runs based on results, it seems pretty stupid to NOT have a meritocracy in mind when creating line-ups. This is why Sun Khan is thinking about using our practice KotH results :'D This is the D ranks teamleague. Let's keep things in perspective. Neither of the players in this league is any good, compared to the highest levels. The point of this league is to give lower ranked players a chance to compete at our own level. I don't understand why you would give more playtime to your high D+ players at the expense of your D/D- players. If you do, you're cheating the weaker players of the experience. Every player should ideally be playing equally, otherwise the captain isn't doing his job imo. And I'm saying ideally, because some players are just not as active as others, and thus can't be expected to play as often as others. I've never decided Ace's lineup based on performance, except for the two playoff rounds last season, but I figured it made sense to top the team in the playoffs.
To me the actual matches are a lot less important than the team atmosphere, competitive nature of the league, and all the consequent practice sessions. To each his own, don't need to be so holier-than-thou ^^;
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Btw when does late lineup penalty begin? I'd like to know mSj's lineup asap so we can at least get in a night of practice...
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I think the best part of a league is metagaming the crap out of your opponents
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On March 29 2013 08:01 traceurling wrote:I think the best part of a league is cheesing the crap out of your opponents
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On March 29 2013 08:08 Spazer wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 08:01 traceurling wrote:I think the best part of a league is cheesing the crap out of your opponents <_<
Hahaha...metagaming and cheesing then
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