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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
October 10 2012 21:54 GMT
#341
Speaking of the ranking system, I should have an update for you all in not too long a time, now that I have a new PC.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10254 Posts
October 11 2012 03:00 GMT
#342
On October 11 2012 05:17 pebble444 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 00:49 Jealous wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:52 pebble444 wrote:
On October 10 2012 20:01 don_kyuhote wrote:
I'm in favor of predetermined map instead of loser pick system. OSL and MSL had predetermined map, and it should help people prepare more since they don't have to practice on all the maps in the pool.
I like the round robin system. I think it can work if you allow rescheduling


Yeah in fact that just occured to me. The reason why i made it losers pick in the first place was to give the upper hand to more feeble players. But then again if they win that match then the other guy picks. Anyway its nice to have a change.


Please no more Medusa, Jade, AND Aztec in map pool ^^

Just Jade kthnx~


Can and will do

I appreciate the fast response but let me explain why - all 3 are nightmares for TvP, 2 for PvZ. With loser-pick, it thus becomes very difficult in some MU ^^ Even without this it makes map pool skewed!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 06:18:42
October 11 2012 05:56 GMT
#343
On October 11 2012 12:00 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 05:17 pebble444 wrote:
On October 11 2012 00:49 Jealous wrote:
On October 10 2012 21:52 pebble444 wrote:
On October 10 2012 20:01 don_kyuhote wrote:
I'm in favor of predetermined map instead of loser pick system. OSL and MSL had predetermined map, and it should help people prepare more since they don't have to practice on all the maps in the pool.
I like the round robin system. I think it can work if you allow rescheduling


Yeah in fact that just occured to me. The reason why i made it losers pick in the first place was to give the upper hand to more feeble players. But then again if they win that match then the other guy picks. Anyway its nice to have a change.


Please no more Medusa, Jade, AND Aztec in map pool ^^

Just Jade kthnx~


Can and will do

I appreciate the fast response but let me explain why - all 3 are nightmares for TvP, 2 for PvZ. With loser-pick, it thus becomes very difficult in some MU ^^ Even without this it makes map pool skewed!

Maybe its time for a council, some players with map knowledge to decide a mappool for all D Rank leagues and tours....would make it easier to have balanced maps for our skilllevel and map preparations when different tours have to be played in a short time.
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10254 Posts
October 11 2012 11:23 GMT
#344
I don't think it should be that formal - just check TLPD for map balances, combine with the knowledge that reverse ramp is designed to help P in leagues because of their poor showing as a whole, cliffs favor T and Z for muta harass, ridges favor Z in ZvP (think SR lurk contain), unbuildable center hurts T pushing, 3 player maps almost all Z>P and P>T in theory, etc. and use this knowledge to make a more balanced pool as a whole, not necessarily fully banning certain maps for imbalance ^^
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 11 2012 12:22 GMT
#345
I'm in favor of keeping our current round robin group stage, rather than some confusing swiss system. Maybe you could seed groups based on Birdie's ranks or previous season performance, its up to you if you would want to do that. Personally I would seed based on standings from the previous season, into round robin groups.

As for maps, just take a big list of commonly played maps, and poll them. Pre-decide map lineups.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
empty.bottle
Profile Joined July 2009
685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 15:15:25
October 11 2012 14:58 GMT
#346
It's neo aztec, not aztec the drops on the natural are annoying.
Even neo medusa(I hate that map) has a higher TvP winrate, the maps seem to be pretty balanced.
Even NHBR and Icarus are terran favored. oh oc othello...
I'm sure terran can't win cause of the map pool lol.
Idk about PvZ cause I suck, but I don't care about the maps, as long as blue storm isn't on the map pool, IMO the map pool should change for entertainment purposes rather than to strike the perfect balance.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
October 11 2012 15:21 GMT
#347
Not all maps can be Tau Cross and Fighting Spirit.
As long as it's not broken like Tears of the Moon, or weird, like Troy, Holy World, Plasma, I'm ok with most maps (including Blue Storm )
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2500 Posts
October 15 2012 10:03 GMT
#348
Finalists read this:

+ Show Spoiler +
I recieved only 3 games. Final is a BO7, so you must play out more games i suppose?

also Uround and sentenel third place match?


Btw sorry guys for not being there at game time and not being present generally lately.
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 13:36:31
October 16 2012 03:35 GMT
#349
On October 15 2012 19:03 pebble444 wrote:
Finalists read this:

+ Show Spoiler +
I recieved only 3 games. Final is a BO7, so you must play out more games i suppose?

also Uround and sentenel third place match?


Btw sorry guys for not being there at game time and not being present generally lately.

Oh, I forgot there was supposed to be a 3rd place match. Guess I should contact Uround.

edit: As an update, I haven't heard from him since I PMed him like 2-3 days ago, so IDK if it will be happening.

edit2: have now heard from uround, should play sometime this week.

edit3: Never heard back about a time to play from uround. Might as well call the 3rd place a draw at this point, doesn't look like its gonna happen.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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