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icedraco
Philippines118 Posts
sGs.icedraco D+ P | ||
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icedraco
Philippines118 Posts
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1a2a3a[MB]
United States297 Posts
Modern day metagame is pretty boring 2v2 games would be intense and much more fun to watch | ||
ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1688 Posts
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pebble444
Italy2497 Posts
I think 2v2 would be fun to have in the league | ||
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Cpt.beefy
Ireland799 Posts
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TheShimmy
United States1808 Posts
On July 04 2012 22:18 pebble444 wrote: Allrghit i think before adding any more people to our team we should wait for the Draft, the draft is indeed a good idea imo, is there gonna be one and when? and how will it work? I think 2v2 would be fun to have in the league You could have all the team captains message you picks or rank the players they want for a "rank draft". Order can determined by luck of the draw and if you keep track of the results I could do a broadcast of the draft | ||
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olabaz
United States298 Posts
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George_the_man
796 Posts
On July 04 2012 19:30 icedraco wrote: pick me guys.... sGs.icedraco D+ P like really dude? with ur average 165 eapm u gonna pretend ure D lvl....? | ||
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Purpleh433
30 Posts
Rank: D ICCUP account: Purpleh433 Race: P/T | ||
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Jealous
10152 Posts
On July 05 2012 01:16 George_the_man wrote: like really dude? with ur average 165 eapm u gonna pretend ure D lvl....? To be fair eapm isn't everything... It depends on what the eapm is actually accomplishing. Late game PvP and PvZ my eapm goes up to 200 pretty regularly because I do 1a2a3a4a5a6a accross the whole map lol. You just do that over and over and BAM you look gosu. There have been players in DRTL with REDONK apms already haha. Anyways I'm sure the usual quality control approach to player skill will happen. | ||
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olabaz
United States298 Posts
Spamming 1a2a3a across the map will give you high APM but not high EAPM | ||
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Ender2701
United States581 Posts
Rank: D ( -?) ICCup account: Ender2701 Race: P I recently started playing bw, I didn't pick it up until after sc2. I'm pretty bad but if someone could coach me I might be a lot better. I have 150 EPM in sc2 masters. Edit: found team | ||
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George_the_man
796 Posts
On July 05 2012 02:05 Jealous wrote: To be fair eapm isn't everything... It depends on what the eapm is actually accomplishing. Late game PvP and PvZ my eapm goes up to 200 pretty regularly because I do 1a2a3a4a5a6a accross the whole map lol. You just do that over and over and BAM you look gosu. There have been players in DRTL with REDONK apms already haha. Anyways I'm sure the usual quality control approach to player skill will happen. Thist post gonna be long and i will try to show my point, ill be critical just to show few problems ... ill start from the end The usual quality control ... Babo do u remember Virture? He went through quality control and participated in drit2, do u think its fine he played there ? I dont think its hard to fool quality control approach if u want and not a dumbass.. Now imagine WL format where people like him (bored C and above players who want to get some fun or boost ego or i dont know what theyre motives are and play in drtl ) plays and pretty much 1 man team suddenly wins few matches with one player making rest of team useless and not even showing (or practising for match) in the later stage of tourney cause whats the point to show if i wont even get to play at all and team doesnt need me ? Whats the point to try? Having trolls in PL format is less destructive... ( via KT and numerous of 1-4 losses in season 10-11 ) unless they will be one team and organisation should care to prevent that Sum up - WL format in this league cant be used.(unless few rounds in the end to test it and motivate bottom teams to play) i have to go outside dont have time to continue this post in the way i wanted this would take too much time but ill very shortly point out few things. 1 apm via spamming doesnt mean too much but eapm is much way better to messure ur skill imo (GENERALLY !!!) so i think if someone has more than 140 average eapm than it should be odd to see him in D tourney i mean usually d+ players have like 90-110 eapm ... 2 theres sadly no line to draw between D+ and C- players , that tourney was supposed to motivate new people to learn how to play and move to C league , was there any player who moved to C league apart from Artanis? 3. at last but not least ill rewrite my sentence to point out key word "like really dude? with ur average 165 eapm u gonna pretend ure D lvl....?" I mean if i play against guy 20 min PvP and he hits average 165 eapm ( it fluctuates between 130-205) and u think hes stack at D+ lvl that what eapm would make u feel suspicious about D+ player ... WHERE IS THE LINE? IS THERE ANY LINE? | ||
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Peru1308 Posts
On July 05 2012 03:41 olabaz wrote: APM != EAPM Spamming 1a2a3a across the map will give you high APM but not high EAPM It DOES. as long as you're always clicking on a different position in the map. How'd you think I had 170~180 eapm in TvZ but it was 140 in all my other match ups? Also, why do people even worry about APM EAPM at this stage? Find my game vs UED_Ronin. I got beat by a guy who stayed on 1 base until he mined it out and who's apm was well below 100 until he got carriers and spammed right click all over the map. And my average TvP apm was around 210 at that time. What gets you to higher ranks is when you stop making silly mistakes like that. I'm not trying to argue anything in my favor. Look at the account Cr4zyH0r5e. I haven't managed to hit D+ or hit a positive record for that matter on ladder. Now I've pretty much quit the game so it's not even relevant because even if I'm accepted I might not participate, but you people make huge deals out of the smallest things. This is a for-fun league for those who want to improve, and participants rate themselves according to the skills they believe to have. TBH I'd say most BW players are somewhere between D+/C- at this point and the ones who go to C rank league get WTF raped while the ones who stay playing vs D+ players practice vs people who are better than them and play their weekly game against people who have been doing the same, and who will probably try to snipe them with some kind of cheeky build... This season hasn't even started and there's already a bunch of people fostering unnecessary drama. No one gets any money for winning this league and if there's a player who is slightly better than the average then you should want to play against that person and practice to take them down. In the end this is the organizer's decision and I'm sure like in any of the other seasons it will be a success. | ||
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LCC
Canada348 Posts
D/D+ T I haven't played BW regularly for a long time but was D+ when i did. This looks like a great way to get back into playing more. EDIT: On team Stealth Bunnies now. | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
There's no need to be paranoid, but some basic investigation won't do any harm, and should remove most smurfs. | ||
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George_the_man
796 Posts
And u should not worry about problems until they appear ? Ofc its organiser decision in the end but thats what forum is for , to show different points so organiser gets most info about issue - therefore league format discussion. so i dont think its unnecessary drama - its not even a drama lol "if there's a player who is slightly better than the average then you should want to play against that person" i definietely agree with that , but player needs to be in ur range right? one sided rapes are fun for only one player edit" in this post i dont mean c- players, they are in range of d+ | ||
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pebble444
Italy2497 Posts
On July 05 2012 04:21 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote: TBH I'd say most BW players are somewhere between D+/C- at this point and the ones who go to C rank league get WTF raped while the ones who stay playing vs D+ players practice vs people who are better than them and play their weekly game against people who have been doing the same, and who will probably try to snipe them with some kind of cheeky build... mhh i don' t agree at all with this. Only Artanis has moved to C ranks and he had a 13-1 record in D ranks, and there are other players with similar stats. that imo are way past D+/C- and want to be big fish in small bowl. Plus if they stay in D ranks how on earth do they play vs "better" players than them? They only stagnate and will never get better at their games, while if they went to C ranks sure they would lose some games but they would improve overall their game. This is not unnecesary drama just real preoccupation to have a balanced league. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 05 2012 05:15 pebble444 wrote: mhh i don' t agree at all with this. Only Artanis has moved to C ranks and he had a 13-1 record in D ranks, and there are other players with similar stats. that imo are way past D+/C- and want to be big fish in small bowl. Plus if they stay in D ranks how on earth do they play vs "better" players than them? They only stagnate and will never get better at their games, while if they went to C ranks sure they would lose some games but they would improve overall their game. This is not unnecesary drama just real preoccupation to have a balanced league. I assume he just means play the majority of their practice games against yellow rankers. | ||
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