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CakeOrI)eath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 20:50:33
July 01 2012 19:02 GMT
#41
I'd like to play! Sign me up as a free agent.

Rank: D+
ICCUP account: CakeOrI)eath
Race: Terran

Edit: Drafted
Opportunities multiply as they are seized.
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
July 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#42
Yay DRTL 3!! Thanks Nikon very much :D

now, on the all-kill format, i think the biggest issue will be the time matches between teams will take. What i mean is the PL format, all matches are done in 30 mins to 40 mins and including ace match no more than 1 hour. Here instead, you will have to wait for previous set to finish to start the next one, so it will take a lot of time. Maybe a match that goes to the 7th set will take 2 hours or more and not everyone has the time, cause everyone will have to be there for 2 hrs since you dont know when you will play. So that's my biggest concern, and also that with previous format, reschedules were possible, i think here they would be really hard.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 01 2012 19:21 GMT
#43
On July 02 2012 04:08 Obelisco wrote:
Yay DRTL 3!! Thanks Nikon very much :D

now, on the all-kill format, i think the biggest issue will be the time matches between teams will take. What i mean is the PL format, all matches are done in 30 mins to 40 mins and including ace match no more than 1 hour. Here instead, you will have to wait for previous set to finish to start the next one, so it will take a lot of time. Maybe a match that goes to the 7th set will take 2 hours or more and not everyone has the time, cause everyone will have to be there for 2 hrs since you dont know when you will play. So that's my biggest concern, and also that with previous format, reschedules were possible, i think here they would be really hard.


Oh shit...totally forgot about that and that is another HUGE issue. You suddenly go from a 20-30 min event to something that spans 2-4+ hours. This is reasonable to expect for guys playing in TGC or NW because they are very involved in the game and make a large commitment to play at that high of a level and to play in those leagues. D ranks players are often people who just play some casual BW here and there (not everyone by any means) and are already trying to work on match into an otherwise busy schedule.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10413 Posts
July 01 2012 19:22 GMT
#44
On July 02 2012 04:21 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 04:08 Obelisco wrote:
Yay DRTL 3!! Thanks Nikon very much :D

now, on the all-kill format, i think the biggest issue will be the time matches between teams will take. What i mean is the PL format, all matches are done in 30 mins to 40 mins and including ace match no more than 1 hour. Here instead, you will have to wait for previous set to finish to start the next one, so it will take a lot of time. Maybe a match that goes to the 7th set will take 2 hours or more and not everyone has the time, cause everyone will have to be there for 2 hrs since you dont know when you will play. So that's my biggest concern, and also that with previous format, reschedules were possible, i think here they would be really hard.


Oh shit...totally forgot about that and that is another HUGE issue. You suddenly go from a 20-30 min event to something that spans 2-4+ hours. This is reasonable to expect for guys playing in TGC or NW because they are very involved in the game and make a large commitment to play at that high of a level and to play in those leagues. D ranks players are often people who just play some casual BW here and there (not everyone by any means) and are already trying to work on match into an otherwise busy schedule.

Also that means no rescheduling... Definitely feel like this format will be questionable now ><
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 19:27:59
July 01 2012 19:25 GMT
#45
Well, it seems like many people are concerned about the all-kill format. I wanted to use it since the previous two seasons were done using regular format, and I wanted a change from that.

Poll: Which format of DRTL3 would you prefer?

Proleague (same as DRTL1 and 2) (42)
 
68%

Winners League (All-kill format) (20)
 
32%

62 total votes

Your vote: Which format of DRTL3 would you prefer?

(Vote): Proleague (same as DRTL1 and 2)
(Vote): Winners League (All-kill format)



Vote in the poll, I'll give it some days, and if the majority prefers the standard PL format, I'll be up for changing it. However, I do not think that I'll be reinstituting 6 games + ace match, since last season pretty much proved that it's nearly impossible to fill that quota out.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 01 2012 19:32 GMT
#46
On July 02 2012 04:25 Nikon wrote:
Well, it seems like many people are concerned about the all-kill format. I wanted to use it since the previous two seasons were done using regular format, and I wanted a change from that.

Poll: Which format of DRTL3 would you prefer?

Proleague (same as DRTL1 and 2) (42)
 
68%

Winners League (All-kill format) (20)
 
32%

62 total votes

Your vote: Which format of DRTL3 would you prefer?

(Vote): Proleague (same as DRTL1 and 2)
(Vote): Winners League (All-kill format)



Vote in the poll, I'll give it some days, and if the majority prefers the standard PL format, I'll be up for changing it. However, I do not think that I'll be reinstituting 6 games + ace match, since last season pretty much proved that it's nearly impossible to fill that quota out.


Yea, I agree with that. That just ends up being a little too much commitment for this league and isn't feasible without massive teams, and even then you can still run into expected people not showing. Not to mention if you had huge teams that's lots of people rarely playing.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 19:39:53
July 01 2012 19:32 GMT
#47
On July 02 2012 04:08 Obelisco wrote:
Yay DRTL 3!! Thanks Nikon very much :D

now, on the all-kill format, i think the biggest issue will be the time matches between teams will take. What i mean is the PL format, all matches are done in 30 mins to 40 mins and including ace match no more than 1 hour. Here instead, you will have to wait for previous set to finish to start the next one, so it will take a lot of time. Maybe a match that goes to the 7th set will take 2 hours or more and not everyone has the time, cause everyone will have to be there for 2 hrs since you dont know when you will play. So that's my biggest concern, and also that with previous format, reschedules were possible, i think here they would be really hard.

Very good point. I'm sure a lot of us wouldn't really appreciate having to wait for each game to finish, and it would be a pain for the team leaders. If Nikon don't want to deal with the lineups I understand, but we could always skip the premade lineups and just make them during game time. Or we just need more active team leaders who sends the lineups in time. Tbh I don't understand why sending the lineups in time was such a problem last season.


On July 02 2012 04:25 Nikon wrote:
Vote in the poll, I'll give it some days, and if the majority prefers the standard PL format, I'll be up for changing it. However, I do not think that I'll be reinstituting 6 games + ace match, since last season pretty much proved that it's nearly impossible to fill that quota out.


What about BO5 + no ace? That's 3-5 players per team. In this tournament I don't think we really need a proper ace-match, maybe in the playoffs.
ToastedBagel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada93 Posts
July 01 2012 19:33 GMT
#48
Free agent.

Rank: D
Account: sgs.teemulisk
Race: Zerg

However, I probably won't be able to play until the end of July, when I quit my job, because right now I work from 5:00 to 11:00 PDT (league starts at 9:00 PDT).
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 01 2012 19:42 GMT
#49
Bo5 (including or not including Ace) seems like it would be fine. Would help solve the no-show issue, wouldn't make the event really long, would allow for reschedules, and wouldn't enable single-player teams.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
July 01 2012 19:42 GMT
#50
It's Canada Day but here's a BW Gettysburg Address to celebrate DRTL3:

One score and four years ago Blizzard brought forth on this planet a new game, conceived in skill, and dedicated to the proposition that all men can become gosu.

Now we are engaged in the 3rd Great DRTL, testing whether that game, or any game, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that Brood War. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their careers that that game might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this sport. The brave men, playing or retired, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our D-rank powers to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the fans, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored pro-gamers we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these players shall not have played in vain—that this game, under Boxer, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that the Starcraft of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
July 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#51
Oh man, the time can certainly be an issue with the WL format, I didn't take that in consideration..

I think we should stick to the PL format indeed. However we fall back to the WOs problems.

But what if we use BO5 instead of BO7? I think that would reduce a lot the WOs. In DRTL S2 our team had about 12 players registered, however after the second week only about 4 of us consistently showed up.

BO5 with teams composed of 7 to 10 players.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 01 2012 21:55 GMT
#52
I would prefer a non-all-kill format, as scheduling for my team would get annoying. Also, if it's similiar to the old format then I would be able to reshedule matches if the other team agrees, right? Because the current DRTL time is 4am monday for me >.> and if I could play later on on monday it would make things much easier.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
July 01 2012 22:24 GMT
#53
On July 01 2012 22:50 BookTwo wrote:
I'd like to participate (never been a part of this before) but what times are the matches held and on what days? I want to make certain it doesn't clash with anything else before signing up.


I'd really appreciate the times of the matches so I know if it is at a bad time before signing up
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
July 01 2012 22:35 GMT
#54
How can people seriously be considering WL format. I can recall countless of times last season where people are running around trying to find their one opponent who is often hours if not even days late. How on earth does anyone expect 2 entire teams being able to show up with full rosters at the same time and then ask of those players to be available for the next 2-3 hours depending on how long it takes to get through the other matches. Im honestly shocked to see this even being considered.
BW4LIFE
floi
Profile Joined July 2010
203 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 17:27:11
July 01 2012 22:53 GMT
#55
-edit- joined despa <3
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
July 01 2012 23:03 GMT
#56
Tbh WL format is terrible for D rank team leagues.
1) Most of them are casuals and just want a bit motivation to play (and train) some BW. You will kill the motivation by focusing the match on the best player of each team, so that the other players don't see the chance or necessity to play, if they know they are gettig rolled over by D+/C- players.
2) As you already mentioned, last season was a problem with all the W.O.s and the rescheduling. WL will only make that worse as I can't imagine them to show up for 2+hours to wait for their possibly only match. Maybe PL format with Bo5 is solution with smaller teams. You could also check from the past seasons which player are willing to participate consistently and won't quit after two rounds.
This is the pov from a neutral spectator because I cannot participate although I want to due to lack of time.
As for the rest, I hope the league will succeed and everything goes smoothly. GLHF!
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
July 01 2012 23:07 GMT
#57
On July 02 2012 07:24 BookTwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 22:50 BookTwo wrote:
I'd like to participate (never been a part of this before) but what times are the matches held and on what days? I want to make certain it doesn't clash with anything else before signing up.


I'd really appreciate the times of the matches so I know if it is at a bad time before signing up

It says the time on the first post. 17:00 Central European time on Sundays.
Rlentless
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong322 Posts
July 01 2012 23:23 GMT
#58
Actually I am completely unavailable on Sundays from 9:30 am to 1:00 pm so I cannot participate in this league.
floladriblere
Profile Joined August 2011
France85 Posts
July 01 2012 23:59 GMT
#59
and +1 for Ace!
I'm trying to convince demolitionboy and michamicha from last season to rejoin the team as well as others D rank people I know.
boum su4ka!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 02 2012 01:28 GMT
#60
Wanting to be back on star maeknes!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
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