Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the third installment of the Gambit's Cup. With the best of the best foreign pro gaming teams competing in the largest team league outside of Korea, this season will prove to be nothing short of the amazing seasons before it. So sit back and roll the dice!
This installment of Gambit's Cup will be divided into two seasons. The beginning of Season 1 will start on Sunday, August 5th, 2012 at 17 CET and the remainder of the tournament will follow every Sunday at said time.
Season 1:
Bo7 Gambit Winner's Style Selected players continue playing in the clan war until they lose a game; at which point their are replaced. The clan wars are Bo7 format.
Top 3 placements from the first season will compete for the Winner's league title.
Season 2:
Bo7 Gambit Standard Style Selected players will play a single match each before being replaced regardless of the result. Clan wars are best of 7 format.
Top 2 of entire season play for the ultimate title.
How to sign up:
- All sign ups must provide team name, logo, managers and roster -
Fee: $50 Payment Deadline: July 20th Start Date: August 4th
To sign up, send a Private Message to Eywa- on Teamliquid.net.
1.2 All games must be played using Mini and/or Chaos Launcher
1.3 All clan wars will have per meeting place op Gambit
1.4 All clan wars will be played in the channel: team1vsteam2
1.5 All players from a same team must have identical clan tag and capitalization
2. Rules concerning administration
2.1 All players and teams are subject to administrative discretion
2.2 EywaSC Inc. staff is to be respected at all times
2.3 Eywa- reserves the right to overwrite any decision which was made without prior consultation
2.4 Eywa- reserves full discretion over all league decisions and procedures
2.5 EywaSC Inc. staff commands are to be obeyed without question, if applicable, decisions may be appealed
2.6 In the event that a team leader wishes to appeal an official decision, they must submit a request with the specified format; See below
3. Rules concerning Schedule
3.1 One PP match is allowed per team per clan war upon agreement.
3.2 PP matches MUST be pre-played
3.3 For PP matches within a 30 minute radius of the clan war, only 24 hours notice is needed, the match will be played, no agreement needed
3.4 For PP matches outside of the 30 minute from clan war range, 48 hours notice is needed, the match will be played only upon agreement
3.5 EywaSC Inc. staff reserve the right to intervene in PP match discussions in order to conserve the league's integrity
4. Rules concerning teams and leaders
4.1 Teams will be composed of 15 players and 2 team leaders
4.2 Team leaders are responsible for being present at clan wars and/or identifying a replacement for them with a formal request in the topic; see below
4.3 Team leaders are to transmit formal appeals in the official R&S topic, any request which doesn't match league standards or is presented by a player will be disregarded and may be disciplined
4.4 Team leaders must submit roster changes a minimum of 48 hours before the first clan war which the newly added player will be eligible for
4.5 EywaSC Inc. staff reserve the right to dismiss a team leader at any time, in the event of dismissal, the team will be prompted to select new management
4.6 EywaSC Inc. staff reserve the right to communicate exclusively with team leaders
4.7 EywaSC Inc. staff reserve the right to question players without the presense of their team
4.8 Only Team leaders may communicate with the league commissioner with their concerns, these concerns must be sent in a PM with the specified format; See below (failure to follow this proceedure will result in a league suspension and/or expulsion)
4.9 When players agree to play for a given team, a contract is made with the Gambit's Cup. In order to switch to another team, the player must first be released by the management staff of his previous team.
4.10 In order for roster changes to be processed, players must be presented with the following format (ID/Name/Country/Race). All other formats will be ignored.
4.11 All player additions must be accompanied with a replay pack of 5 or more games in all played matchups
4.12 All alternate accounts must be listed in order for a player addition to be approved.
5. Rules concerning IP
5.1 No Korean IP addresses
5.2 Players may be required to surrender IP address without prior notice
6. Rules concerning W.O timers
6.1 The opening draw is to be made at 1700CET
6.2 Each team will have a total Walk Over timer of 30 minutes, this applies to the full clan war (not individual sets).
6.3 When the timer reaches 0, the opposition may take Walk Over for any remaining sets.
7. Rules concerning BM
7.1 Bad manner at clan wars, in threads or in game is strictly prohibited
7.2 Mandatory "GG" before leaving the game
7.3 Offencive "GG" is strictly prohibited
7.4 For every act of BM, a 1 will be added on the offender's reccord. These 1's will be put in sequence and calculated in Binary. 1st = 1 Weeks, 2nd = 3 Weeks, 3rd = 7 weeks, etc.
8. Rules concerning spoilers
8.1 Spoilers are strictly prohibited; offenders will be subject to expulsion from the league
9. Rules concerning playoff eligibility
9.1 Players who attend and play in every clan war are eligible by default for the playoffs
9.2 Teams must submit a minimum of 15 replays of their players per week played in either Bo3+ or KOTH style in order to be eligible for playoffs (This rule is intended for counter-abuse and extra-content purposes, any inquiries about secret strategies may be discussed with the league commissioner)
9.3 Players must provide replays in at least 3 of their team's weekly submissions (does not apply to players which are admited by rule 9.1)
10. Rules concerning playoffs
10.1 Players must submit their replays with the e-mail address which is provided to them by EywaSC Inc.
10.2 Players are to use privat chat at all times (overwrites GG rule). There will be 0 inter-Team discussion.
This is awesome for BW foreign scene, sorry if this is a stupid question but with the $50 signup for each team, that makes me curious, what is the total prize pool? I don't see it listed anywhere, or in the video.. just curious, thanks!
EDIT : Does the total prize pool depend on the amount of teams signing up? That would make sense I guess. Gl hf ! :D
On July 03 2012 05:51 GGzerG wrote: This is awesome for BW foreign scene, sorry if this is a stupid question but with the $50 signup for each team, that makes me curious, what is the total prize pool? I don't see it listed anywhere, or in the video.. just curious, thanks!
EDIT : Does the total prize pool depend on the amount of teams signing up? That would make sense I guess. Gl hf ! :D
This is kind of just an announcement thread. The official R&S will feature the prize pool along with all the teams signed up
On July 03 2012 05:51 GGzerG wrote: This is awesome for BW foreign scene, sorry if this is a stupid question but with the $50 signup for each team, that makes me curious, what is the total prize pool? I don't see it listed anywhere, or in the video.. just curious, thanks!
EDIT : Does the total prize pool depend on the amount of teams signing up? That would make sense I guess. Gl hf ! :D
This is kind of just an announcement thread. The official R&S will feature the prize pool along with all the teams signed up
This sounds pretty cool, didn't realize there would be so many teams willing to put up $50. Recently returned to bw. I'm guessing these league matches are played by ~B+ rank and higher type skilled players? If any team needs a protoss feel free to PM me, I'm a B high protoss who is currently kinda terrible due to inactivity (but improving) and would love to get back in an active decent team.
old account on iccup: sMi.Arcology this season: sGs.Jonoman92
On July 09 2012 17:19 Mewka wrote: 'team commentary' sounds interesting
We have a very strong team this season. Led by myself (protoss), we have elegant (protoss), sayle's ghost (protoss), lmaster (protoss), and even get to help from our fill ins draw (protoss) and kiante (protoss). But we here feel that a protoss player could give us that diversity that would push us over the top, so jumper would be a great pickup.
On July 09 2012 17:19 Mewka wrote: 'team commentary' sounds interesting
We have a very strong team this season. Led by myself (protoss), we have elegant (protoss), sayle's ghost (protoss), lmaster (protoss), and even get to help from our fill ins draw (protoss) and kiante (protoss). But we here feel that a protoss player could give us that diversity that would push us over the top, so jumper would be a great pickup.
loool
Gt not going to play again..? Sad news if true. Maybe some other upcoming teams will fill the void
On July 09 2012 17:19 Mewka wrote: 'team commentary' sounds interesting
We have a very strong team this season. Led by myself (protoss), we have elegant (protoss), sayle's ghost (protoss), lmaster (protoss), and even get to help from our fill ins draw (protoss) and kiante (protoss). But we here feel that a protoss player could give us that diversity that would push us over the top, so jumper would be a great pickup.
loool
Gt not going to play again..? Sad news if true. Maybe some other upcoming teams will fill the void
They might but looks so far like they don't have their team, which is going to be a lot of potential for free lance players.
On July 09 2012 17:19 Mewka wrote: 'team commentary' sounds interesting
We have a very strong team this season. Led by myself (protoss), we have elegant (protoss), sayle's ghost (protoss), lmaster (protoss), and even get to help from our fill ins draw (protoss) and kiante (protoss). But we here feel that a protoss player could give us that diversity that would push us over the top, so jumper would be a great pickup.
loool
Gt not going to play again..? Sad news if true. Maybe some other upcoming teams will fill the void
They might but looks so far like they don't have their team, which is going to be a lot of potential for free lance players.
Wow crazy. No Gt but you're right, that does open the door to spread some of that talent around.
On July 12 2012 05:36 Slavuti4 wrote: so nobody is embarrassed about time?? every Saturday at 17 CET is conflicting with another Clan League - ICCUP CL.
oh really ?. i think this really have not choice. gambit cup must change his time.
On July 12 2012 05:36 Slavuti4 wrote: so nobody is embarrassed about time?? every Saturday at 17 CET is conflicting with another Clan League - ICCUP CL.
oh really ?. i think this really have not choice. gambit cup must change his time.
On July 09 2012 17:19 Mewka wrote: 'team commentary' sounds interesting
We have a very strong team this season. Led by myself (protoss), we have elegant (protoss), sayle's ghost (protoss), lmaster (protoss), and even get to help from our fill ins draw (protoss) and kiante (protoss). But we here feel that a protoss player could give us that diversity that would push us over the top, so jumper would be a great pickup.
loool
Gt not going to play again..? Sad news if true. Maybe some other upcoming teams will fill the void
They might but looks so far like they don't have their team, which is going to be a lot of potential for free lance players.
Wow crazy. No Gt but you're right, that does open the door to spread some of that talent around.
On July 09 2012 17:19 Mewka wrote: 'team commentary' sounds interesting
We have a very strong team this season. Led by myself (protoss), we have elegant (protoss), sayle's ghost (protoss), lmaster (protoss), and even get to help from our fill ins draw (protoss) and kiante (protoss). But we here feel that a protoss player could give us that diversity that would push us over the top, so jumper would be a great pickup.
loool
Gt not going to play again..? Sad news if true. Maybe some other upcoming teams will fill the void
They might but looks so far like they don't have their team, which is going to be a lot of potential for free lance players.
Wow crazy. No Gt but you're right, that does open the door to spread some of that talent around.
Please do not make GC3 and icc cl same time, it will be impossible to play both, and you cant force ppl to choose between 2 leagues, cause w/ making us to choose - you are killing BW.
To answer everyone's questions concerning the time, I had actually not taken iCC-CL into consideration whatsoever when I thought of the time. It just seemed like the best time for the league as far as universally available times. I'm going to discuss some things with iCCup CL admins, but I do believe that GC will be moved to another time.
I'd like to remind all team leaders that no payments will be accepted after July 20th 2012. Please make sure that your teams are all signed up by said date.
On July 13 2012 11:43 Eywa- wrote: I'd like to remind all team leaders that no payments will be accepted after July 20th 2012. Please make sure that your teams are all signed up by said date.
On July 13 2012 11:43 Eywa- wrote: I'd like to remind all team leaders that no payments will be accepted after July 20th 2012. Please make sure that your teams are all signed up by said date.
New Clan War time: Sunday, 17CET
So am I to assume the date is sunday always now?
Unless otherwise needed for a very good reason, yes.
If only it didn't conflict with another tournament, 23:00 pm local on a sunday is difficult to do for alot of players, on saturday would have been great.
On July 13 2012 14:13 Caihead wrote: If only it didn't conflict with another tournament, 23:00 pm local on a sunday is difficult to do for alot of players, on saturday would have been great.
As I previously said, GC isn't looking to prevent players from partaking in any other leagues, if necessary, alternate play times may be arranged in the main schedule. This was done for TGC and may be done again.
On July 13 2012 18:37 reps)Plumbum wrote: I dont want to see Chinese teams and players here.
Really? Why on earth would that be? They would bring a huge amount of interest to the league. Interest=growth.
I understand both sides of this, most people associate Chinese players with lag, this can be the case, but not necessarily. Obviously, if a player lags with every other player in the league, he won't be allowed to play... This doesn't only apply to Chinese players though.
On July 13 2012 18:37 reps)Plumbum wrote: I dont want to see Chinese teams and players here.
Really? Why on earth would that be? They would bring a huge amount of interest to the league. Interest=growth.
I understand both sides of this, most people associate Chinese players with lag, this can be the case, but not necessarily. Obviously, if a player lags with every other player in the league, he won't be allowed to play... This doesn't only apply to Chinese players though.
I remember how bad it was in Nation Wars and wouldn't like it to happen again...Every match was about wasting time finding who wouldn't lag with who and even in games that were played, it really was pretty bad even on extra high lat.
whats this means ? Teams must submit a minimum of 15 replays of their players per week played in either Bo3+ or KOTH style in order to be eligible for playoffs (This rule is intended for counter-abuse and extra-content purposes, any inquiries about secret strategies may be discussed with the league commissioner
On July 14 2012 18:37 Jumperer wrote: Hello everyone, I decided to join team SJ after much thinking. I know my decision will definitely disappointed some people, but I feel that joining SJ is best for me. I considered many options. @Shimy I really wanted to join your fox team and be your team's ace player, I also feel that spreading my talent to a non-overpowered team would help BW grow and make things more interesting, furthermore, you actually speak english pretty well so there is no communication barrier. but I will be going back to school and taking plenty of classes this semester so I don't want to put any more pressure on myself by taking a responsibility of being the ace player. Priority. I'm going to just chill this season.
@sas, I actually wanted to join sas since i'm a good friend with draw and I feel that the team is very talented. but eonzerg randomly yelled at me in broken english when i asked him if sziky and ace is going to be on the team. So I assume that they are not on the team and look elsewhere.
Other teams also offered me a spot on their team but they are either too inactive or there were too few players. With that said, I appreciate everyone's interest in me very much. I wish all players/managers/commentators good luck in the upcoming season. We all do what we do because we love the game and this league is a great reflection of that. This league and the scene is still alive and kicking not because blizzard pumped in million of dollars. It's alive because the game itself is that fucking amazing.
LET'S SHOW 'EM ONCE AGAIN WHY BROOD WAR IS THE GREATEST RTS GAME EVER MADE.
It's ok, you're still a legend. But looks like Shimy forgot to tell you that.... I'm Fox's ace player
We share that fighting attitude, I'm glad there are others who feel this way!
On July 14 2012 18:37 Jumperer wrote: Hello everyone, I decided to join team SJ after much thinking. I know my decision will definitely disappointed some people, but I feel that joining SJ is best for me. I considered many options. @Shimy I really wanted to join your fox team and be your team's ace player, I also feel that spreading my talent to a non-overpowered team would help BW grow and make things more interesting, furthermore, you actually speak english pretty well so there is no communication barrier. but I will be going back to school and taking plenty of classes this semester so I don't want to put any more pressure on myself by taking a responsibility of being the ace player. Priority. I'm going to just chill this season.
@sas, I actually wanted to join sas since i'm a good friend with draw and I feel that the team is very talented. but eonzerg randomly yelled at me in broken english when i asked him if sziky and ace is going to be on the team. So I assume that they are not on the team and look elsewhere.
Other teams also offered me a spot on their team but they are either too inactive or there were too few players. With that said, I appreciate everyone's interest in me very much. I wish all players/managers/commentators good luck in the upcoming season. We all do what we do because we love the game and this league is a great reflection of that. This league and the scene is still alive and kicking not because blizzard pumped in million of dollars. It's alive because the game itself is that fucking amazing.
LET'S SHOW 'EM ONCE AGAIN WHY BROOD WAR IS THE GREATEST RTS GAME EVER MADE.
im 100% sure i say nothing about sas.ace and sas.sziky. i offer u to join us. and u ask me for sas. So. whats wrong with u ;;
On July 14 2012 05:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: whats this means ? Teams must submit a minimum of 15 replays of their players per week played in either Bo3+ or KOTH style in order to be eligible for playoffs (This rule is intended for counter-abuse and extra-content purposes, any inquiries about secret strategies may be discussed with the league commissioner
This means you need to submit replays of practice to the league.
On July 14 2012 05:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: whats this means ? Teams must submit a minimum of 15 replays of their players per week played in either Bo3+ or KOTH style in order to be eligible for playoffs (This rule is intended for counter-abuse and extra-content purposes, any inquiries about secret strategies may be discussed with the league commissioner
This means you need to submit replays of practice to the league.
this also mean we gonna see every reppack of every team right ?
On July 14 2012 05:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: whats this means ? Teams must submit a minimum of 15 replays of their players per week played in either Bo3+ or KOTH style in order to be eligible for playoffs (This rule is intended for counter-abuse and extra-content purposes, any inquiries about secret strategies may be discussed with the league commissioner
This means you need to submit replays of practice to the league.
this also mean we gonna see every reppack of every team right ?
All teams, please note: If you are prompted to give the paypal service charge to the receiver or to handle it yourself, you must take the service charge. The ammount must be payed in full, that is, $50.
OP needs to be updated, it still says that the games are played on subsequent saturdays instead of sundays. May cause some confusion for those who dont read the thread..
Upon signup, teams may request other play times than the default one that is offered. The available playtimes are the following:
Saturday
17, 18, 19 CET
Sunday
17, 18, 19 CET
If you send me a PM with a time and reason for the time, it is likely that it may be arranged. The schedule would then function similarly to a regular sporting schedule in terms of home/away games (except instead of location change, would be time).
Do note, only the default time slot is guaranteed to have a league official present. All manner rules and such would still apply to other clan wars.
On July 14 2012 05:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: whats this means ? Teams must submit a minimum of 15 replays of their players per week played in either Bo3+ or KOTH style in order to be eligible for playoffs (This rule is intended for counter-abuse and extra-content purposes, any inquiries about secret strategies may be discussed with the league commissioner
This means you need to submit replays of practice to the league.
and what if i have a player, who plays on CWs and does never practice?
Eywa your beginnings are good, but some of your rules are strange (~weird)
The rule about replays might be good only towards "noname" players. Since there really no players in our bw community who are going to abuse/smurf, (except fucking vtv and asshole joekim & scan obv) because we respect each other and ourselves.
On July 14 2012 05:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: whats this means ? Teams must submit a minimum of 15 replays of their players per week played in either Bo3+ or KOTH style in order to be eligible for playoffs (This rule is intended for counter-abuse and extra-content purposes, any inquiries about secret strategies may be discussed with the league commissioner
This means you need to submit replays of practice to the league.
and what if i have a player, who plays on CWs and does never practice?
It's a minimal ammount of games. For a player to part take in three best of X over the course of the entire season is a very minimal commitment.
On July 14 2012 05:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: whats this means ? Teams must submit a minimum of 15 replays of their players per week played in either Bo3+ or KOTH style in order to be eligible for playoffs (This rule is intended for counter-abuse and extra-content purposes, any inquiries about secret strategies may be discussed with the league commissioner
This means you need to submit replays of practice to the league.
and what if i have a player, who plays on CWs and does never practice?
Eywa your beginnings are good, but some of your rules are strange (~weird)
The rule about replays might be good only towards "noname" players. Since there really no players in our bw community who are going to abuse/smurf, (except fucking vtv and asshole joekim & scan obv) because we respect each other and ourselves.
I know what you're saying, however, I must consider what's best from the league's perspective. I have a trust list, everyone does, however, that doesn't mean these players go unchecked. This is for two reasons, first being, if you let your trust list get a free pass, you are singling out other non-trusted players/organizations as abusers which is not a good situation to be in unless there is concrete proof. I can't say reps), no security, but sas!! Well they get the full monty. The second reason is, people cheat because they think they can get away with it, how many times throughout history has the "trusted" person turned out to be the most hanis (include more sports than just BW)?
I think however, that you are expanding your trust list too far. This probably shouldn't push past your own team because there has been some attempts (could have been accidental or without knowing) from teams other than vTv in this league. So, I wouldn't single them out as the only ones who've done wrong, I'd just say they've done the worse (which is evident given their league status).
On July 14 2012 05:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: whats this means ? Teams must submit a minimum of 15 replays of their players per week played in either Bo3+ or KOTH style in order to be eligible for playoffs (This rule is intended for counter-abuse and extra-content purposes, any inquiries about secret strategies may be discussed with the league commissioner
This means you need to submit replays of practice to the league.
and what if i have a player, who plays on CWs and does never practice?
It's a minimal ammount of games. For a player to part take in three best of X over the course of the entire season is a very minimal commitment.
You still did not answer - i have a player, who plays only on CWs, he does not play ladder/friendly games, because simply he is super good player. So there is not way this player can play? Thats weird
Also we are paying for this league, and we have to spent million hours to collect replays from players T_T
Also, Eywa, there is one more thing - this is not D rank team league, this is top non kor team league, simply there are no more better players then here to smurf for us, trololo
On July 14 2012 05:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: whats this means ? Teams must submit a minimum of 15 replays of their players per week played in either Bo3+ or KOTH style in order to be eligible for playoffs (This rule is intended for counter-abuse and extra-content purposes, any inquiries about secret strategies may be discussed with the league commissioner
This means you need to submit replays of practice to the league.
and what if i have a player, who plays on CWs and does never practice?
It's a minimal ammount of games. For a player to part take in three best of X over the course of the entire season is a very minimal commitment.
You still did not answer - i have a player, who plays only on CWs, he does not play ladder/friendly games, because simply he is super good player. So there is not way this player can play? Thats weird
Also we are paying for this league, and we have to spent million hours to collect replays from players T_T
Also, Eywa, there is one more thing - this is not D rank team league, this is top non kor team league, simply there are no more better players then here to smurf for us, trololo
PM me with player's name and circumstance, I'll take a look.
Also, I'm going to reinstate Gambit Team even if the original crew are gone, it was originally a team for gosus to play in when they did not have a team for themselves and so it will be that again this season.
I agree with Plumbum. I dont play anywhere close to 5 bo3s a week and im not nearly as inactive as many top bw players, who just show up and play. If there are doubts about smurfing and akas, let them be dealt with individually...seems like a waste of time and effort to me.
On July 18 2012 02:06 FyRe_DragOn wrote: I agree with Plumbum. I dont play anywhere close to 5 bo3s a week and im not nearly as inactive as many top bw players, who just show up and play. If there are doubts about smurfing and akas, let them be dealt with individually...seems like a waste of time and effort to me.
You're not asked to play 5 Bo3s in a week, you're asked to play 1. Sorry if this wasn't clear.
On July 18 2012 02:16 reps)Plumbum wrote: Eywa, i heard very strange thing. That you allowed vTv (defeat) to participate in GC3. True/False? You banned them "lifetime" after GC1, no? w
I was not aware that Defeat is aka vTv, this was not indicated to me and given that, I was under the assumption that defeat is just another sponsored team which is coming up. You are indeed correct, vTv is banned from the league and if these two teams are related then Defeat would also be prohibitted from joinning the league. There is no need to take any action yet because Defeat hasn't signed up yet, nor have they provided a list of akas for their players (which were majorly unknown to me). I'll let you know though that the situation is entirely under control.
So to answer the specifics of your question:
I gave Defeat the proceedures which they must follow in order to be admitted.
Ok still 15 games then. I dont play 15 games every week and im sure a lot of other GC players wont be doing so either. Even if i did, i dont want to send you the replays of almost every fucking game i play during the duration of GC. not only is that ridiculous, but its unnecessarily time consuming for the players, leaders, and ofc you to try and organize them all. Due to the large number of inactive or semi inactive players, this is bound to fail imo.
Like plumbum said, every1 knows every1, and unless known abusers are let into the league there should be no need for extra security. Just deal with any issues on a case by case basis imo
On July 18 2012 02:59 FyRe_DragOn wrote: Ok still 15 games then. I dont play 15 games every week and im sure a lot of other GC players wont be doing so either. Even if i did, i dont want to send you the replays of almost every fucking game i play during the duration of GC. not only is that ridiculous, but its unnecessarily time consuming for the players, leaders, and ofc you to try and organize them all. Due to the large number of inactive or semi inactive players, this is bound to fail imo.
Like plumbum said, every1 knows every1, and unless known abusers are let into the league there should be no need for extra security. Just deal with any issues on a case by case basis imo
.. I'm asking the team to send in 15 games, that's 15 for 15 players. As noted, you only have to send in 1 single Best of 3 a total of 3 times as a single player. Sorry once again if I didn't make it clear the first time. As an individual, you're not expected to produce many replays on your own. As a team, I don't see it unreasonable to have to present an average of 1 replay per player per week.
Edit: That's a Minimum of 2-3 games, not 15.
Edit2: For further inquiries, please contact me via PM as indicated in the OP. (Applies to all)
On July 18 2012 03:10 Xiphos wrote: I think we should do what the Chinese StarCraft Team Leagues are doing.
Have a Best of 7 of Best of 3s for each match with the final math being Ace Match.
How many teams are there anyways?
This is the iCC-CL format with the last match being an ace match, except it's Best Of 5 x Best of 3 with ace being 2v2. We're not looking at having two identical leagues. If there is another Nation Wars however, it will be the same format whih is that you listed.
On July 18 2012 03:10 Xiphos wrote: I think we should do what the Chinese StarCraft Team Leagues are doing.
Have a Best of 7 of Best of 3s for each match with the final math being Ace Match.
How many teams are there anyways?
This is the iCC-CL format with the last match being an ace match, except it's Best Of 5 x Best of 3 with ace being 2v2. We're not looking at having two identical leagues. If there is another Nation Wars however, it will be the same format whih is that you listed.
On July 18 2012 03:10 Xiphos wrote: I think we should do what the Chinese StarCraft Team Leagues are doing.
Have a Best of 7 of Best of 3s for each match with the final math being Ace Match.
How many teams are there anyways?
This is the iCC-CL format with the last match being an ace match, except it's Best Of 5 x Best of 3 with ace being 2v2. We're not looking at having two identical leagues. If there is another Nation Wars however, it will be the same format whih is that you listed.
7/19 Alright I'm back with some bad news and some good news. The bad news is that due to a combination of lack of team leads who will be able to persistently see the gambit cup through, worrying about lag, and the time slot, the Chinese teams can't participate in this Gambit's Cup. (that is unless something happens in the next 24 hours and we do sort everything out miraculously.
The good news is that the reaction we got from the players and organizers apart from technical difficulties was positive, every still active player that we asked expressed interest in playing in a foreign tournament, and individually forking out the entry fees wasn't a problem either, so do expect them at foreign tournaments in the future.
On behalf of Chinese teams and players I thank you for your attention and interest and apologize for the inability to participate this time, do look forward to co-operating and interacting with us in the future though!
On July 19 2012 22:01 Caihead wrote: 7/19 Alright I'm back with some bad news and some good news. The bad news is that due to a combination of lack of team leads who will be able to persistently see the gambit cup through, worrying about lag, and the time slot, the Chinese teams can't participate in this Gambit's Cup. (that is unless something happens in the next 24 hours and we do sort everything out miraculously.
The good news is that the reaction we got from the players and organizers apart from technical difficulties was positive, every still active player that we asked expressed interest in playing in a foreign tournament, and individually forking out the entry fees wasn't a problem either, so do expect them at foreign tournaments in the future.
On behalf of Chinese teams and players I thank you for your attention and interest and apologize for the inability to participate this time, do look forward to co-operating and interacting with us in the future though!
Huh... How do you draw the second assumption given that GC is in pretty much the best time for chinese players while not going out of the range foreigners can play in?
Also, the fact that they don't seem to be willing to potentially live through a few lag tests and what not when their money is at stake doesn't really make me too keen on saying they'd be able to play in a free to play event...
Trying to say this in the least offensive manner possible, forgive me if this is not taken well.
On July 19 2012 22:01 Caihead wrote: 7/19 Alright I'm back with some bad news and some good news. The bad news is that due to a combination of lack of team leads who will be able to persistently see the gambit cup through, worrying about lag, and the time slot, the Chinese teams can't participate in this Gambit's Cup. (that is unless something happens in the next 24 hours and we do sort everything out miraculously.
The good news is that the reaction we got from the players and organizers apart from technical difficulties was positive, every still active player that we asked expressed interest in playing in a foreign tournament, and individually forking out the entry fees wasn't a problem either, so do expect them at foreign tournaments in the future.
On behalf of Chinese teams and players I thank you for your attention and interest and apologize for the inability to participate this time, do look forward to co-operating and interacting with us in the future though!
Huh... How do you draw the second assumption given that GC is in pretty much the best time for chinese players while not going out of the range foreigners can play in?
Also, the fact that they don't seem to be willing to potentially live through a few lag tests and what not when their money is at stake doesn't really make me too keen on saying they'd be able to play in a free to play event...
Trying to say this in the least offensive manner possible, forgive me if this is not taken well.
It's the time slot for available team leaders (for example, stevewch doesn't want to be the sole leader and can't make some of the evenings, FoR..Nainiu and GP).Heroes can't appear on some nights either, etc etc etc), we all can't make that time for one reason or another, it's nothing on your side that's problematic. The fact we don't have a consistent team leader is the most major issue out of this whole thing, this time we are basically scrambling to find the appropriate contacts before the deadline, I'm sorry that it didn't work out, it's not the fault of anyone at GC. Next time we will have the contacts available.
Testing and putting money up wasn't the problem by itself, we are not going to ask others to lag test with us / give money to us (like I said, we are already willing to do / pay the fee personally) when we know our team leaders can't be on.
Sorry if I came across as offensive, I don't know how that happened.
On July 20 2012 00:40 dRaW wrote: as fold said, with nationwars it was a lagfest, I prefer to not go through that for $ clanwar leagues ;;
You didn't play in Nation Wars.
On July 20 2012 03:54 reps)Plumbum wrote: Please do not let chinese to play, or add rule about lags on high lat (not on extra high).
I didn't have to play or not, I have played on VS Server and Fish / Iccup vs Chinese, its exactly as bad as Latin America lag (unplayable)
Also, I am searching for a team... if anyone interested let me know, must be of the hungarian variety ran by a spanish guy who plays zerg and user ID starts with a z.
On July 20 2012 03:54 reps)Plumbum wrote: Please do not let chinese to play, or add rule about lags on high lat (not on extra high).
I didn't have to play or not, I have played on VS Server and Fish / Iccup vs Chinese, its exactly as bad as Latin America lag (unplayable)
Also, I am searching for a team... if anyone interested let me know, must be of the hungarian variety ran by a spanish guy who plays zerg and user ID starts with a z.
On July 20 2012 03:54 reps)Plumbum wrote: Please do not let chinese to play, or add rule about lags on high lat (not on extra high).
They're not playing regardless of if I want them to apparently.
Oh, how come?
On July 19 2012 22:01 Caihead wrote: 7/19 Alright I'm back with some bad news and some good news. The bad news is that due to a combination of lack of team leads who will be able to persistently see the gambit cup through, worrying about lag, and the time slot, the Chinese teams can't participate in this Gambit's Cup. (that is unless something happens in the next 24 hours and we do sort everything out miraculously.
The good news is that the reaction we got from the players and organizers apart from technical difficulties was positive, every still active player that we asked expressed interest in playing in a foreign tournament, and individually forking out the entry fees wasn't a problem either, so do expect them at foreign tournaments in the future.
On behalf of Chinese teams and players I thank you for your attention and interest and apologize for the inability to participate this time, do look forward to co-operating and interacting with us in the future though!
On July 20 2012 00:40 dRaW wrote: as fold said, with nationwars it was a lagfest, I prefer to not go through that for $ clanwar leagues ;;
You didn't play in Nation Wars.
On July 20 2012 03:54 reps)Plumbum wrote: Please do not let chinese to play, or add rule about lags on high lat (not on extra high).
I didn't have to play or not, I have played on VS Server and Fish / Iccup vs Chinese, its exactly as bad as Latin America lag (unplayable)
Also, I am searching for a team... if anyone interested let me know, must be of the hungarian variety ran by a spanish guy who plays zerg and user ID starts with a z.
On July 20 2012 00:40 dRaW wrote: as fold said, with nationwars it was a lagfest, I prefer to not go through that for $ clanwar leagues ;;
You didn't play in Nation Wars.
On July 20 2012 03:54 reps)Plumbum wrote: Please do not let chinese to play, or add rule about lags on high lat (not on extra high).
I didn't have to play or not, I have played on VS Server and Fish / Iccup vs Chinese, its exactly as bad as Latin America lag (unplayable)
Also, I am searching for a team... if anyone interested let me know, must be of the hungarian variety ran by a spanish guy who plays zerg and user ID starts with a z.
On July 20 2012 00:40 dRaW wrote: as fold said, with nationwars it was a lagfest, I prefer to not go through that for $ clanwar leagues ;;
You didn't play in Nation Wars.
On July 20 2012 03:54 reps)Plumbum wrote: Please do not let chinese to play, or add rule about lags on high lat (not on extra high).
I didn't have to play or not, I have played on VS Server and Fish / Iccup vs Chinese, its exactly as bad as Latin America lag (unplayable)
Also, I am searching for a team... if anyone interested let me know, must be of the hungarian variety ran by a spanish guy who plays zerg and user ID starts with a z.
On July 21 2012 23:46 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: iwl pain ??. common those teams got many good players ..... why not join..
iwL = SiR, don't ask why there was a name change, because I don't know.
Also, I agree.. PaiN would have a great shot at winning with Michael/Bibiane/Bizzy/Cute, however, it is doubtful that any of those would show to CWs except Michael.
After seeing a topic "GC3" first thing I asked Sneazel whether we are playing. He replied that he does not play sc. That is why I play for SJ, and therefore a big surprise.
On July 22 2012 01:22 SouthPark wrote: After seeing a topic "GC3" first thing I asked Sneazel whether we are playing. He replied that he does not play sc. That is why I play for SJ, and therefore a big surprise.
With Gt we're kind of betting on return players, there is more motivation that simply Gambit's Cup for this now, so I wouldn't be surprised if we get a few. If it doesn't work out, then likely Gt will be removed.
On July 22 2012 09:39 hacklebeast wrote: did sas absorb all of pain, or just those 3?
we're gonna make full roster later since we can only have 15 roster, but we basically are going to use as many of their top players (who can be active) as we need.
edit: Can players do a vote on maps we will use, or what's the format for that, I'm sure lots of players would agree to change some of last seasons maps.
On July 22 2012 09:56 dRaW wrote: edit: Can players do a vote on maps we will use, or what's the format for that, I'm sure lots of players would agree to change some of last seasons maps.
On July 22 2012 09:56 dRaW wrote: edit: Can players do a vote on maps we will use, or what's the format for that, I'm sure lots of players would agree to change some of last seasons maps.
On July 22 2012 09:56 dRaW wrote: edit: Can players do a vote on maps we will use, or what's the format for that, I'm sure lots of players would agree to change some of last seasons maps.
On July 23 2012 02:32 hacklebeast wrote: pretty sure casters don't have any say in map selection, but if i do:
fortress Polaris rhapsody grandline circuit breakers matchpoint outsider Colosseum II
it's good you don't
ah.. colosseum, brings back memories from many many years ago (when tasteless still did BW in SK)
Just remove all the old school maps, go with the times.
With times of no new korean maps from next season onwards the foreign mapping scene might be getting some more attention.
Colosseum is the only map that could be considered "old school". I think outsider is 09, and everything else is 2010 and on. Everyone will be able to find 1 or 2 maps on that list that they hate, but that's the beauty of a team league, you don't have to play those maps. And if you are so one-dimensional that you can only play fs/cb/aztec... well you are going to be punished for being so fucking one-dimensional that you can only play three maps.
But that's my opinion. I assume we will have the terribly predictable maps: aztec, jade, gladiator, ect...
On July 23 2012 02:32 hacklebeast wrote: pretty sure casters don't have any say in map selection, but if i do:
fortress Polaris rhapsody grandline circuit breakers matchpoint outsider Colosseum II
it's good you don't
ah.. colosseum, brings back memories from many many years ago (when tasteless still did BW in SK)
Just remove all the old school maps, go with the times.
With times of no new korean maps from next season onwards the foreign mapping scene might be getting some more attention.
Colosseum is the only map that could be considered "old school". I think outsider is 09, and everything else is 2010 and on. Everyone will be able to find 1 or 2 maps on that list that they hate, but that's the beauty of a team league, you don't have to play those maps. And if you are so one-dimensional that you can only play fs/cb/aztec... well you are going to be punished for being so fucking one-dimensional that you can only play three maps.
But that's my opinion. I assume we will have the terribly predictable maps: aztec, jade, gladiator, ect...
So u blame the maps that make u legend of cast -_-
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WOOT can't wait to see that.
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but you're right, that does open the door to spread some of that talent around.
