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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4394 Posts
May 20 2012 08:28 GMT
#1181
On May 20 2012 17:23 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:20 KobraKay wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:19 n.DieJokes wrote:
Whats the state of the PvZ meta game like?


The last I remember was something like one makes roaches...the other rolls over and dies? But that was some time ago =/ dont take my word for it.


Balance whine!

It's a pretty weird metagame right now, honestly. Both sides feel uncomfortable for large parts of the game. Generally, see the SPL guide for a better explanation, but standard would be Protoss Forge FE being countered by Zerg taking a super-fast third. Air play as a follow up is falling out of style, because Zergs like to pressure with mass roach. Tosses have been experimenting with Carriers in this matchup, but it's never really worked.


lol hardly....I play Z in BW and when I did play SC2 I played Terran. Since I havent played much to begin with (and nothing almost since a few months after release), it would hardly qualify as a balance whine =/

I watch SC2 not on a regular basis but almost and the last I remember, ZvP looked like that 12min roach max push into gg. I did say dont take my word for it because I assumed that P might have found a way to deal with it already.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
DizzyDrone
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
May 20 2012 08:28 GMT
#1182
On May 20 2012 17:25 Katsuge wrote:
What's an archon toilet?

Sorry, I barely know anything abt sc2, tho I have the game..


Mothership has a spell called Vortex, which targets an area and removes all units in it from the game for some seconds. The Vortex stays for the same time, so it's possible to add units to it by running them in. When the vortex ends, all units appear at the center. An Achron toilet is when the protoss player uses vortex on the army of his opponent, and throws Archons in himself so when the vortex ends all the opponent's units are stacked up and the Archon splash demolishes them.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
May 20 2012 08:28 GMT
#1183
In Messiah we trust!
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
May 20 2012 08:28 GMT
#1184
On May 20 2012 17:28 Taekwon wrote:
WDF drones have same spd as probes?

dafuq
qq

yeh
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
May 20 2012 08:29 GMT
#1185
On May 20 2012 17:14 kiero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:12 Ribbon wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:11 TheKefka wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:09 n.DieJokes wrote:
What did FlaSh do wrong to end up 50 supply behind? I don't see how he could possibly macro better...

He had to somehow apply pressure to zerg earlier.You can't just hope to expand at the same pace with zerg and keep up the unit production.Inject is just too strong.Flash played too passively.


Effort has three bases by the 5-minute mark. Terran can't let that happen.


But flash is so good at turtling, or use to. They just don't feel/play the same in SC2 =[

No defenders advantage
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 20 2012 08:29 GMT
#1186
On May 20 2012 17:28 Taekwon wrote:
WDF drones have same spd as probes?

dafuq
qq


They always had the same speed, just different acceleration.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
May 20 2012 08:29 GMT
#1187
Lolol thanks guys, great to see so many replies <3
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 20 2012 08:29 GMT
#1188
do dat bisu build!
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#1189
oh god he let him take 3 bases again...
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#1190
On May 20 2012 17:28 Taekwon wrote:
WDF drones have same spd as probes?

dafuq
qq

All workers are created equal in SC2.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#1191
dat lag
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#1192
On May 20 2012 17:29 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:14 kiero wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:12 Ribbon wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:11 TheKefka wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:09 n.DieJokes wrote:
What did FlaSh do wrong to end up 50 supply behind? I don't see how he could possibly macro better...

He had to somehow apply pressure to zerg earlier.You can't just hope to expand at the same pace with zerg and keep up the unit production.Inject is just too strong.Flash played too passively.


Effort has three bases by the 5-minute mark. Terran can't let that happen.


But flash is so good at turtling, or use to. They just don't feel/play the same in SC2 =[

No defenders advantage


Against Zerg? Yeah there is. What are you talking about?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#1193
Welcome to Bnet 2.0
Cackle™
Vundox
Profile Joined March 2011
United States182 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#1194
BNET 0.2 ROFL!

ps- Go EFFORT!
implying Suzy isn't perfect
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#1195
WE COME FULL CIRCLE IN SCToo

LAG TOO!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
May 20 2012 08:30 GMT
#1196
For a second there, I thought I needed to get out my pitchfork.
Writer
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
May 20 2012 08:31 GMT
#1197
Flash had one tank vs a ton of banelings... and then got thors. He needed to do some drops at least - too passive.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
May 20 2012 08:31 GMT
#1198
On May 20 2012 17:30 Taekwon wrote:
dat lag

did Blizzard ever make LAN for sc2

or is this still on bnet lol
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
May 20 2012 08:31 GMT
#1199
On May 20 2012 17:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
oh god he let him take 3 bases again...

Meh, FFE vs fast 3rd is still okay for Protoss, he just needs to pressure
¯\_(シ)_/¯
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 20 2012 08:31 GMT
#1200
One thing that the bw pros could bring to the zerg race is micro. Talking about "zerg micro" is a running joke which means "no micro", a lot of pro zergs are microing badly while focusing everything on macro. The few very good zergs are actually those who can micro.
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