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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#1161
What's an archon toilet?

Sorry, I barely know anything abt sc2, tho I have the game..
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#1162
On May 20 2012 17:24 Holgerius wrote:
It feels so weird to see Flash like this. =/ He doesn't look his usual confident self.


soccer player in a tennis court
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#1163
On May 20 2012 17:22 TheKefka wrote:
If we see a archon toilet in this series half of the BW people are going to roll over and die from depression.


And the SC2 LR thread explodes in complete ecstasy.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#1164
Wait, who is Motive? I can't say I've seen that guy before.
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
May 20 2012 08:25 GMT
#1165
On May 20 2012 17:22 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:14 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:14 kiero wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:12 Ribbon wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:11 TheKefka wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:09 n.DieJokes wrote:
What did FlaSh do wrong to end up 50 supply behind? I don't see how he could possibly macro better...

He had to somehow apply pressure to zerg earlier.You can't just hope to expand at the same pace with zerg and keep up the unit production.Inject is just too strong.Flash played too passively.


Effort has three bases by the 5-minute mark. Terran can't let that happen.


But flash is so good at turtling, or use to. They just don't feel/play the same in SC2 =[

You can't do that in SC2, Z can just run you over.


TBH you can play a defensive 3 base TvZ with a big 2-2 timing pre-hive with just a little early harass and pressure. But flash set up for a defensive 3 base TvZ with a really marine/medivac heavy composition, and rightfully got rolled because he couldn't handle the banelings. Faster second factory and a few bunkers in front and he'd have been pretty secure before he was ready for a big push out on the map.

also flash never retained the few tanks he had. i felt like he overreacted to the mutas by making so many thors as effort kept streaming in lings.
Noel Vermillion
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada218 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#1166
Damn Flash lost, eh he'll learn ; D

He needs more tanks.
FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu, Free, TossGirl, Action, Stats Always BW FTW!
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#1167
On May 20 2012 17:25 Nikon wrote:
Wait, who is Motive? I can't say I've seen that guy before.

Cuz this is his PL debut. Debut + ace on the same day. :XD
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#1168
On May 20 2012 17:24 Sinedd wrote:
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On May 20 2012 17:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
we need a lizzy meme so bad right now

Never played a televised match before

goes for an ace match.


success lizzy meme

nao

btw - I want CJ outfit.. SOOOO MUCH !!!!!!!!

where the hell can I get it !?

The CJ black kicks ass! I want one too!!!!!!!!
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#1169
On May 20 2012 17:25 Katsuge wrote:
What's an archon toilet?

Sorry, I barely know anything abt sc2, tho I have the game..


its when a mothership uses its vortex vblack hole to suck the zerg air units and the protoss sends his archons in, when the blackhole ends the archons unleash some sick splash damage on the air units
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:27:36
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#1170
On May 20 2012 17:25 haka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:22 Asha` wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:14 DystopiaX wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:14 kiero wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:12 Ribbon wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:11 TheKefka wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:09 n.DieJokes wrote:
What did FlaSh do wrong to end up 50 supply behind? I don't see how he could possibly macro better...

He had to somehow apply pressure to zerg earlier.You can't just hope to expand at the same pace with zerg and keep up the unit production.Inject is just too strong.Flash played too passively.


Effort has three bases by the 5-minute mark. Terran can't let that happen.


But flash is so good at turtling, or use to. They just don't feel/play the same in SC2 =[

You can't do that in SC2, Z can just run you over.


TBH you can play a defensive 3 base TvZ with a big 2-2 timing pre-hive with just a little early harass and pressure. But flash set up for a defensive 3 base TvZ with a really marine/medivac heavy composition, and rightfully got rolled because he couldn't handle the banelings. Faster second factory and a few bunkers in front and he'd have been pretty secure before he was ready for a big push out on the map.

also flash never retained the few tanks he had. i felt like he overreacted to the mutas by making so many thors as effort kept streaming in lings.

I was wondering about that, he seemed to halt tank production once he saw the Mutas, might be because Mutas aren't that common anymore with the rise of infestor ling, and he was just like "uhhh wtf do i do now, okay Thors shoot up, so make lots of Thors"
¯\_(シ)_/¯
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#1171
On May 20 2012 17:25 Katsuge wrote:
What's an archon toilet?

Sorry, I barely know anything abt sc2, tho I have the game..

Mothership has a spell called a vortex that sucks all units on and close to where it gets casted. The idea is that you suck in a bunch of enemy units (typically brood lords) and then send a bunch of archons in. When everything comes out, it's all clumped and archon splash damage instantly kills pretty much everything.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 20 2012 08:26 GMT
#1172
its time for lizzy to makehimself a household name
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#1173
On May 20 2012 17:25 Katsuge wrote:
What's an archon toilet?

Sorry, I barely know anything abt sc2, tho I have the game..

Mothership vortexes everything then sends his army in as well. Archons got sick splash and everything stacks coming out of the vortex so P kills Z shit easier.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#1174
just please finish the ace mathch uquickly
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#1175
On May 20 2012 17:25 Nikon wrote:
Wait, who is Motive? I can't say I've seen that guy before.


neither have we.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#1176
On May 20 2012 17:25 Katsuge wrote:
What's an archon toilet?

Sorry, I barely know anything abt sc2, tho I have the game..


You cast "Vortex" on a clump of units, which is like stasis: It sucks units into a black hole for a bit. Then you throw some archons in the Vortex. When units pop out, the archons will hit a big clump of them and do splash to all of them. Very good against Brood Lords.
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:28:46
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#1177
On May 20 2012 17:25 Katsuge wrote:
What's an archon toilet?

Sorry, I barely know anything abt sc2, tho I have the game..

The mothership has a vortex ability that pulls in all nearby units, then spits them out in a tight ball about 20secs later. If you pack a bunch of units with a splash attack in there, like archons, they can kill all the enemy units really quickly.

One counter for the zerg is to put a bunch of banelings in the vortex as well. Their explosion take priority over the archon attack and kills all the archons before they can do anything.
Canx
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore85 Posts
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#1178
Effort had 80 drones and stopped there; while Flash only had 50 scvs at that time. No surprise T can't beat Z without some harass.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:28:29
May 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#1179
On May 20 2012 17:25 Katsuge wrote:
What's an archon toilet?

Sorry, I barely know anything abt sc2, tho I have the game..

The mothership has a ability called vortex.Units that get caught in it get sucked up for X amount of seconds into a vortex and are imobilized for the duration.When the vortex ends they all pop up from one small hole and the catch is that the protoss can send in his units into the vortex as well.So you can imagine what happens when archons pop out with the enemy units all in the same spot and splash damage is applied.
Cackle™
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 20 2012 08:28 GMT
#1180
WDF drones have same spd as probes?

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