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On December 14 2011 00:37 fabiano wrote:
STX dead last.
KT can't beat SKT.
KT can't beat CJ.
KT can't beat Khan.
KT can't beat Team 8.
KT can beat Woongjin.
KT should beat Ace.
KT definitely beats STX.
KT will finish #5 or #6.
Personally i do see KT beating CJ, well not that i think anyone agrees with me (other than the die-hard KT boys). But i really think they will.. At least i ll LB them in their vs CJ match ^_^..
Reason? Well nothing much really, unlike SKT, CJ does have a soft-spot vs Terran, and probably Mind will get played and hopefully win his game. Flash obviously win his. Left 1 for Stats and the Zerg, which is entirely possible, since i (still) believe that Z >>> P hardcore, and Stats is rather decent, and have really good chance vs Leta.
@ The guy who thinks Effort can beat Flash now
Just no... He got lucky once, and he quitted the game for 1+ year after that. Barely beating Iris in his latest vT. I totally see CJ Zergs getting stomped hardcore should they meet Flash. I even see a good chance of Mind beating them.
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On December 14 2011 03:47 ffreakk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 00:37 fabiano wrote:
STX dead last.
KT can't beat SKT.
KT can't beat CJ.
KT can't beat Khan.
KT can't beat Team 8.
KT can beat Woongjin.
KT should beat Ace.
KT definitely beats STX.
KT will finish #5 or #6. Personally i do see KT beating CJ, well not that i think anyone agrees with me (other than the die-hard KT boys). But i really think they will.. At least i ll LB them in their vs CJ match ^_^.. Reason? Well nothing much really, unlike SKT, CJ does have a soft-spot vs Terran, and probably Mind will get played and hopefully win his game. Flash obviously win his. Left 1 for Stats and the Zerg, which is entirely possible, since i (still) believe that Z >>> P hardcore, and Stats is rather decent, and have really good chance vs Leta. @ The guy who thinks Effort can beat Flash now Just no... He got lucky once, and he quitted the game for 1+ year after that. Barely beating Iris in his latest vT. I totally see CJ Zergs getting stomped hardcore should they meet Flash. I even see a good chance of Mind beating them.
These maps are weak for T's. Flash can only take down one of CJ's Zergs, and if it isn't Effort or Hydra its pretty much over from there.
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I hope stx wins, but I hope mini wins a lot of games because he's on my fantasy 
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On December 14 2011 03:53 TheShimmy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 03:47 ffreakk wrote:On December 14 2011 00:37 fabiano wrote:
STX dead last.
KT can't beat SKT.
KT can't beat CJ.
KT can't beat Khan.
KT can't beat Team 8.
KT can beat Woongjin.
KT should beat Ace.
KT definitely beats STX.
KT will finish #5 or #6. Personally i do see KT beating CJ, well not that i think anyone agrees with me (other than the die-hard KT boys). But i really think they will.. At least i ll LB them in their vs CJ match ^_^.. Reason? Well nothing much really, unlike SKT, CJ does have a soft-spot vs Terran, and probably Mind will get played and hopefully win his game. Flash obviously win his. Left 1 for Stats and the Zerg, which is entirely possible, since i (still) believe that Z >>> P hardcore, and Stats is rather decent, and have really good chance vs Leta. @ The guy who thinks Effort can beat Flash now Just no... He got lucky once, and he quitted the game for 1+ year after that. Barely beating Iris in his latest vT. I totally see CJ Zergs getting stomped hardcore should they meet Flash. I even see a good chance of Mind beating them. These maps are weak for T's. Flash can only take down one of CJ's Zergs, and if it isn't Effort or Hydra its pretty much over from there.
Like i said, i expect Mind to have a good chance (>50%) vs CJ Zergs, or Movie. Stats can take game off Leta, or coin toss vs the Protosses (Horang2 using weighted coin). So yea, im optimistic about KT's chances.
Regarding the maps:
I totally don't get how Siege Hills is poor for T, Chain Reaction isn't bad either, same for Jade, and Electric Circuit.
Actually does any1 have good n concrete reason to say that maps are bad for T? Or just the lack of T appearance so far led people to think that way?
The only map that i can immediately see that (might be) poor for T is Outlier
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There's just not that many top Terrans. CJ has 1 in their top 6. Samsung has 1 in their top 6. SKT1 has 1 in their top 6. Woongjin has 1 in their top 6. With 3 races, there statistically should be 2 Terrans for each of these teams.
KT, Kespa, and ACE are really the only teams with 2 Terrans in their top 6. You might be able to argue that ACE has 3, but 1 team having more than the average doesn't make up for 4 Teams being below the average. STX has ignored Classic (who should be in their top 6) for some reason, but it's still early in the season.
Flash and Bogus missing their latest match is simply due to the coaches saving them for a 5th set that never came into existence. The lack of Fantasy really isn't that unusual because SKT1 hasn't gone to a 5th set yet so if Fantasy is their de facto ace, it's simply due to the success of the 3 main Protoss that he hasn't been needed yet.
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Unless the Mantoss returns, I hope KT gets pummeled HARDDDD.
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its no fun having 1 player that is extremely good and all the others are canon fodder huh
time to feel oz karma revenge kt
time for you to be last muhahaha altough i like hoejja ,,,,
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yeah...well...
On December 13 2011 18:06 thopol wrote:
Where do I vote for T1?
Keep fighting the good fight!♥
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stx will probably beat KT and ACE, so they will probably not be last place.
I don't see them doing too good these 1st 2 rounds. They are probably trying to build up their weaker players. In rounds 3 and 4 I expect them to do a lot better.
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KT being last is good for BW. STX cannot disband.
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On December 13 2011 18:19 Hyde wrote:In the "Who will win SPL 2011-2012" thread
Perfect answer
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Never forget pre-Round 5 STX from last PL.
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this thread could be a lot better if it added the rest of the teams to that poll :p
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On December 14 2011 02:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 02:19 kamikami wrote:
Let's look at the good side : KT finishing last won't get them disbanded, while other teams may not have that luxury. So yeah KT at the bottom is best outcome for BW <3. I honestly doubt STX with their great wealth to throw(via cranes) will disband their team "if" they come last. we all know well enough that KT won't stay at last place.
Yeah, I honestly thought that the team which took in slumping players to nurse them to new life (July, Frozean, hyvaa) would not desire to aggressively trade it's own players away as well. If STX finishes last this season, I fear for the teams future. They invest a lot into it just for the team to become a laughingstock? Get real.
If the sponsors weren't dissatisfied with the teams performance, last years stunt wouldn't have happened. Also, you should think about this - STX didn't raise the salary of any player (as far as I know), while their most expensive player (Kal) left their team. Why would they not aggressively buy someone?
EDIT: Made me rethink stuff, and now I can think that instead of being sad, I know I still have 2,5 more rounds of STX to watch. They'll win a few sets and I shall be content with that.
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On December 14 2011 02:30 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 01:08 Emon_ wrote:On December 13 2011 23:01 Sawamura wrote:On December 13 2011 22:55 Emon_ wrote:
KT to win over CJ... only if Mustache-, Pirate- and KTsuckballswithoutme-Terran join the team.
CJ has their eyes firmly set on SKT1. Horang2 is practicing PvP to snipe Bisu. Best is up for grabs by anyone else. Sparks will fly on Dec 31st Oh really ? we have Mind,flash and stats , that's even enough to win over leta ,hydra, horang2 ,*insert cj player here *, don't get over your head so fast , CJ v KT has even started yet . So good luck with your prediction. Mind can't take anyone on CJ and you know it. Stats is pretty solid, but his PvZ is no match for Effort or Hydra. Not to mention Horang2 should be practicing to snipe him. Flash can take a win, but Effort & Leta are capable of beating him straight up. So overall, 3-0 or 3-1 for CJ is the most probable score @Torenhire: You're a gentleman and a scholar. The focus of this thread is misguided because the teams need our support to stay alive and for the BW scene to continue Not from where I see things , KT has the potential to kill CJ .
Thats what it means to be a fan though. I believe Khan can beat any team on any given day. Always liquibet and vote Khan. And obviously it's not the case that Khan wins 100% =P.
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On December 14 2011 00:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:I hope they do just for that retarded heart sign. I can't believe this stupid thread, this is an excuse to shit on teams that are not doing well and i'm not saying this as a KT fan even if it were SKT or Khan struggling in last place I would call it stupid thread. It is very disheartening to hear people feel the way they do in this thread. sorry if you feel offended icclown, I'm just really annoyed with this thread.
It's ok :D It's meant as a semi-troll... It's just strange to see KTR at the bottom. Many say that the reason they're in the bottom is because they cant use Flash in the new format. However, I think it's because they have a bad season, usually the entire team dont rely this much on Flash solely.
It's not to "... shit on teams..." we're just taking a rare opportunity to give you some heat
Buuut all that aside, it's really nice to KTR struggling! :D (it would be even better with SKT though <3)
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Well well well
Ain't this amusing 
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On January 15 2012 22:18 Iplaythings wrote:Well well well Ain't this amusing Lol, nice bump. Even all 3 teams mentioned are actually going strong.
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On January 15 2012 22:18 Iplaythings wrote:Well well well Ain't this amusing
regardless.
this is still a fucking retarded thread.
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