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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2586 Posts
May 20 2011 11:00 GMT
#121
On May 20 2011 19:43 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 18:40 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
I have a question to ask:
If you answer yes, please explain how...



yes I do, Leta before arriving in CJ was already great in TvT with no quality T practice partner. Now, with another TvT titan Skyhigh helping him, I don't see why Leta can't possibly beat Flash, flash having great skill and all but I see both players having the same odds.

edit: and its also kinda biased being a die hard leta fan :3


In addition to that, Leta is showing signs of his peak form and he beat flash in spectacular fashion in this game ^___^

SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 11:26:28
May 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#122
On May 20 2011 19:43 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 18:40 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
I have a question to ask:
If you answer yes, please explain how...



yes I do, Leta before arriving in CJ was already great in TvT with no quality T practice partner. Now, with another TvT titan Skyhigh helping him, I don't see why Leta can't possibly beat Flash, flash having great skill and all but I see both players having the same odds.

edit: and its also kinda biased being a die hard leta fan :3

Since joining CJ Leta has gone 8-9 in TvT and 0-2 against Flash. I too once thought that him practicing with sKyHigh would improve his TvT, but this has clearly not happened.

+ Show Spoiler [old post] +
Since joining CJ Leta has gone 10-10 in TvT. It doesn't look like training with sKyHigh has done anything to improve him in this match-up.

Sorry for the edit, I was a bit hasty in posting!
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19349 Posts
May 20 2011 11:20 GMT
#123
On May 20 2011 20:15 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 19:43 icystorage wrote:
On May 20 2011 18:40 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
I have a question to ask:
If you answer yes, please explain how...



yes I do, Leta before arriving in CJ was already great in TvT with no quality T practice partner. Now, with another TvT titan Skyhigh helping him, I don't see why Leta can't possibly beat Flash, flash having great skill and all but I see both players having the same odds.

edit: and its also kinda biased being a die hard leta fan :3

Since joining CJ Leta has gone 10-10 in TvT. It doesn't look like training with sKyHigh has done anything to improve him in this match-up.

most of his losses were during his slump in Jan and Feb (his play in general, not only TvT). Some players do get into slumps but i believe he's on fire today, im not saying he would crush flash and its a pretty even match up imo.
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Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
May 20 2011 11:27 GMT
#124
On May 20 2011 20:00 chongu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 19:43 icystorage wrote:
On May 20 2011 18:40 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
I have a question to ask:
If you answer yes, please explain how...



yes I do, Leta before arriving in CJ was already great in TvT with no quality T practice partner. Now, with another TvT titan Skyhigh helping him, I don't see why Leta can't possibly beat Flash, flash having great skill and all but I see both players having the same odds.

edit: and its also kinda biased being a die hard leta fan :3


In addition to that, Leta is showing signs of his peak form and he beat flash in spectacular fashion in this game ^___^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIyAYHVHNm0


This game... I remember it now, it was so nice :D
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ CJ Entus fighting! I am a Leta, Hydra, Mind and (ofcourse) Firebathero fan. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
May 20 2011 11:37 GMT
#125
On May 20 2011 20:00 chongu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 19:43 icystorage wrote:
On May 20 2011 18:40 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
I have a question to ask:
If you answer yes, please explain how...



yes I do, Leta before arriving in CJ was already great in TvT with no quality T practice partner. Now, with another TvT titan Skyhigh helping him, I don't see why Leta can't possibly beat Flash, flash having great skill and all but I see both players having the same odds.

edit: and its also kinda biased being a die hard leta fan :3


In addition to that, Leta is showing signs of his peak form and he beat flash in spectacular fashion in this game ^___^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIyAYHVHNm0

I remember this game. Im hopeful now ^^
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
May 20 2011 11:39 GMT
#126
I dunno if I'm alone in this opinion, but I'd be happy seeing ANY of the remaining players in the finals.

Jaedong - The best Zerg right now (of all time? slightly contestable)

Hydra - The scariest Zerg right now cause he's peaking in ZvT and his other matchups are as scary as that of his predecessor, Effort

Calm - Brain Zerg, former MSL champion, defeated Jaedong before in a BoX. Sure, Clam could show up but I still have faith that Calm can get back to his winning, mind-gaming self

Zero - Possibly the Zerg most fun to watch in ZvT and ZvP (with the ugliest ZvZ among the top-tier A-class)

Leta - Very flashy (pun not intended) Terran whose talent goes far beyond his accomplishments. If there's any better opportunity for Leta to showcase this, now's the time, against the player he keeps choking to

Flash - Undeniably the favorite for this MSL, but not as much as last year when he was crowned God Young Ho.

I am absolutely stoked for this, and while my hopes ultimately rest upon the Ultimate Weapon, I have no doubt that the skill left in this MSL is still unbelievably high and BW fans are in for a real treat. Whatever happens tomorrow, the future of BW is bright.

ps: Bisu for the OSL!
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19349 Posts
May 20 2011 11:43 GMT
#127
On May 20 2011 20:39 Caladbolg wrote:
Leta - Very flashy (pun not intended) Terran whose talent goes far beyond his accomplishments. If there's any better opportunity for Leta to showcase this, now's the time, against the player he keeps choking to


not only to flash, be he lost to most, if not all, S-Class players. Specially to JD, losing to all meetings with the tyrant.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
May 20 2011 11:44 GMT
#128
On May 20 2011 20:43 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 20:39 Caladbolg wrote:
Leta - Very flashy (pun not intended) Terran whose talent goes far beyond his accomplishments. If there's any better opportunity for Leta to showcase this, now's the time, against the player he keeps choking to


not only to flash, be he lost to most, if not all, S-Class players. Specially to JD, losing to all meetings with the tyrant.


Oh well yeah. Same issue Kal has. Sometimes it's not funny anymore

"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
May 20 2011 11:44 GMT
#129
hmm I think it looks like a JD vs Flash finals again. Calm will most likely beat zero and I HOPE JD is on his game against calm because Calm is "capable" of beating JD (he's a ZvZ BoX master) and a Calm vs Flash finals would absolutely suck. (note: I give Hydra like 10% to beat flash even if effOrt will coach him, he is not effOrt though he played well vs Mind)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
May 20 2011 12:22 GMT
#130
On May 20 2011 20:44 dRaW wrote:
(note: I give Hydra like 10% to beat flash even if effOrt will coach him, he is not effOrt though he played well vs Mind)

I am not an expert in probability and correct me if I am wrong.

Hydra having 10% to win a Bo5 series against Flash means Hydra has only ~25% to beat Flash in each match...

It's definitely in Flash's favor but I think that's too low.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
May 20 2011 12:35 GMT
#131
On May 20 2011 20:44 dRaW wrote:
hmm I think it looks like a JD vs Flash finals again. Calm will most likely beat zero and I HOPE JD is on his game against calm because Calm is "capable" of beating JD (he's a ZvZ BoX master) and a Calm vs Flash finals would absolutely suck. (note: I give Hydra like 10% to beat flash even if effOrt will coach him, he is not effOrt though he played well vs Mind)

You underestimate CJ house too much.
Never ever make that mistake. Many have eaten their words.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
May 20 2011 12:57 GMT
#132
I have high respect for the CJ house and its players,but Leta can't beat Flash in a Bo5 nor can Hydra.Leta and Hydra will be the catalysts to bring back the god mode.

That said Leta will probably have game 3,because Dante's peak plays out so wierdly when it comes to TvT for me,or any Terran matchup.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
May 20 2011 13:08 GMT
#133
On May 20 2011 21:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
That said Leta will probably have game 3,because Dante's peak plays out so wierdly when it comes to TvT for me,or any Terran matchup.

LOL what the fuck does that even mean?
For you? How are you involved in their game? And funny to say that in a mirror MU
rofl
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 13:18:21
May 20 2011 13:12 GMT
#134
On May 20 2011 22:08 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 21:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
That said Leta will probably have game 3,because Dante's peak plays out so wierdly when it comes to TvT for me,or any Terran matchup.

LOL what the fuck does that even mean?
For you? How are you involved in their game? And funny to say that in a mirror MU
rofl


I have no better way of putting my thoughts to paper,I apologise if it confused you.

and you could do well to tone down the language you reacted like I insulted you or something...
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
May 20 2011 13:20 GMT
#135
On May 20 2011 22:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 22:08 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
On May 20 2011 21:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
That said Leta will probably have game 3,because Dante's peak plays out so wierdly when it comes to TvT for me,or any Terran matchup.

LOL what the fuck does that even mean?
For you? How are you involved in their game? And funny to say that in a mirror MU
rofl


I have no better way of putting my thoughts to paper,I apologise if it confused you.

No, it did not confuse me. It simply has no logical meaning. Maybe think first before you write? What's the point of writing a meaningless statement like this? Sorry to be harsh, I just don't understand people posting like this as though no one would care
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
May 20 2011 13:25 GMT
#136
whatever.:/
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
May 20 2011 13:31 GMT
#137
On May 20 2011 22:20 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 22:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 20 2011 22:08 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
On May 20 2011 21:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
That said Leta will probably have game 3,because Dante's peak plays out so wierdly when it comes to TvT for me,or any Terran matchup.

LOL what the fuck does that even mean?
For you? How are you involved in their game? And funny to say that in a mirror MU
rofl


I have no better way of putting my thoughts to paper,I apologise if it confused you.

No, it did not confuse me. It simply has no logical meaning. Maybe think first before you write? What's the point of writing a meaningless statement like this? Sorry to be harsh, I just don't understand people posting like this as though no one would care

Hey mister "I will post some made up stuff and try to convince others it's from Flash interview", you have no right to criticize other people posting behavior lol.
Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
May 20 2011 13:33 GMT
#138
On May 20 2011 22:31 L0thar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 22:20 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
On May 20 2011 22:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On May 20 2011 22:08 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
On May 20 2011 21:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
That said Leta will probably have game 3,because Dante's peak plays out so wierdly when it comes to TvT for me,or any Terran matchup.

LOL what the fuck does that even mean?
For you? How are you involved in their game? And funny to say that in a mirror MU
rofl


I have no better way of putting my thoughts to paper,I apologise if it confused you.

No, it did not confuse me. It simply has no logical meaning. Maybe think first before you write? What's the point of writing a meaningless statement like this? Sorry to be harsh, I just don't understand people posting like this as though no one would care

Hey mister "I will post some made up stuff and try to convince others it's from Flash interview", you have no right to criticize other people posting behavior lol.

Did you not read the "or something like that" part.
I'm sorry to hurt your fanboyism. I was merely stating facts.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-20 13:35:53
May 20 2011 13:33 GMT
#139
On May 20 2011 20:00 chongu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2011 19:43 icystorage wrote:
On May 20 2011 18:40 sovetskysoyuz wrote:
I have a question to ask:
If you answer yes, please explain how...



yes I do, Leta before arriving in CJ was already great in TvT with no quality T practice partner. Now, with another TvT titan Skyhigh helping him, I don't see why Leta can't possibly beat Flash, flash having great skill and all but I see both players having the same odds.

edit: and its also kinda biased being a die hard leta fan :3


In addition to that, Leta is showing signs of his peak form and he beat flash in spectacular fashion in this game ^___^

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIyAYHVHNm0

Since that game he's lost to Flash 7 times in a row. . .

- (Flash's record vs. Leta)
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"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
May 20 2011 13:38 GMT
#140
Fanboy wars!

Now what would have happened if bisu made it this far .. so fun ..

Zero hwaiting! :D
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