On May 08 2011 06:11 Kipsate wrote: Hoping for Fox to take this(or atleast some marvelous Baby play) on the other hand I don't think they really stand a chance against CJ entus.
Mind is in great shape. CJ will have to send their best against Mind/Baby. Roro and Shine can't be counted out. Mind's TvP is really scary right now. This is more even than you think.
On May 08 2011 06:11 Kipsate wrote: Hoping for Fox to take this(or atleast some marvelous Baby play) on the other hand I don't think they really stand a chance against CJ entus.
Mind is in great shape. CJ will have to send their best against Mind/Baby. Roro and Shine can't be counted out. Mind's TvP is really scary right now. This is more even than you think.
On the other hand:
Movie Snow Hydra Horang(more then a one trick pvpony lately) Skyhigh Leta(oke he is not doing so well, frankly so isn't snow)
Here is some random stupid hype Ill make up on the spot for fun! Baby all-ki- ohwait!
For CJ -_- they'll probably make a -_- face until leta gets sent in and out of nowhere for the ace match effort comes in!
In all seriousness though: CJ Entus can come in and kick some ass, or at least we'd certainly like to hope that way. While Mind has been playing well, CJ still has plenty of power to defuse all that FOX can throw their way. Leta will come out and win, he will win. Well Hydra will win too (unless its a terran, lets face it his ZvT sucks)i, if its a protoss. Then CJ can send out whomever is making the most -_- face on the bench.
Toss is pressuing Leta with a zealot and probe Pulls back Leta does have a fact with add on 2 goons coming down towards Leta's base Add on starts research as soon as first tank pops out
Toss has nat warping in 2nd tank for Leta 2 goons and a zealot going to get pushed back Range has finished and there is another goon coming down 3 goons and a zealot to about 10 rines, 2 tanks 2 scvs
One scv, 2 tanks go down Vulture with mines is on the field Both scvs go down Leta has vultures coming to reinforce this Goons prssing, snipe a tank Probes pulled, take a few loses Leta has his nat under construction only 1 tank 1 vulture for Leta left at toss's nat Tank falls back as the last vulture goes down Robotics, 2 gate, citadel and archives are all complette for toss
2 more facts are on the way for Leta, total 3 Leta starting Ebay First shuttle is out, does toss know mines are at his frontdoor? Most likely Turret is going up, beside the CC First obs is out DT Dropped, but the turret GETS UP Shuttle barely able to ferry the DT's away DTs take out a depot and are chopping away at a fact
Leta has an acadamy, as he has comsat Toss has a stargate, and is taking 12 I think I saw CC inbase for Leta's 3rd Shuttle gest away with 7 hp 4 gates, a forge and arbiter tech for toss Leta has an armory now aswell Vulture scouts the pylon wall at 12
12 is warped in Leta is floating his CC over towards 6 Stargate is flashing, forge spinning Toss has a nex warping at 9 Ohh, I know what I wanted now, a Leta vs Pure rematch, another tie DT's dropped at 6, try to chop at the scanner, mine drag a tank, no loses for Toss 6? or 7 facts for Leta
0-1 for mech Starport 1/2 way built Toss is pushing down mid map, but Leta is moved above the mainly goon force 10 maybe 11 facts for Toss First Arbiter out Tanks shelling at 12, vultures netting probe kill after probekill Toss trying to break the tankline One arbiter goes down All probes are down at 12 Only one tank, it goes down 2nd Arbiter goes down Leta has the Nexus at 100 ish health, does not focus it Vultures trying to get into 9 aswell, pylon goes down,
Leta is in 9, but an arbiter is cloaking the probes, Toss has a good number left at 9 122 supply to 112 Toss - Leta Leta sitting at 600 minerals-300 gas Toss 200 minerals-1100 gas Arbiter recall in the main! Leta is blocked off from defending Goliath takes down an arbiter, but there was a 2nd one recalled Goons are melting, but Leta has lost quite a few vultures, and several depots in defense 3 goons left hammering away at a depot Another recall is getting setup by the toss Vessel emps the arbiter Forge is spinning again for toss and he is taking 7
Leta double expanding to 3 and 1, but obs spot the 3 expo Vultures are headed into 7, to counter CC at 3 is under attack, as is the nexus at 7 Toss is pressing down Leta's tank line Stasis on 5 tanks!! Storm on another clump -.- from Leta 6 is exposed now, no defense toss has more streaming down into the expo Tanks break out of stasis but are out of range of anything 1 oclock is complete, but the CC at 6 gets taken down, as will most scvs +2 attack for toss 1 is forced to lift Leta forced to lift his main CC to 6
3 minute apart posts are <3 Toss running 3? HT into tank fire He is also massing mid map, taking 1 oclock and 7 Xellos better beat Leta well get the Hite out of him 2-2 for Mech EMP on an arbiter, storms amaging to get off on the tankline Another nice emp forces toss back
Even with the game seemingly in the bag, P7GAB makes a disasterous frontal attack on a tank line w/ no stasis and loses most of his units, allowing Leta back into thte game.
Leta is pushing out now, running into a bit of fire, 2-3 for Leta 0-0-3 for Toss I think CC floating somehwere o.o Leta needs to take another expansion to keep himself in the game Toss has 3 mining to his 1? maybe 1.5 Toss bareling down to 6 oclock, with goons and HT Leta falling back to defend Leta misclicks, loses a vessel, and gets hit my storms Stasis on tanks holding the line while Leta went to defend Toss attacking from both sides of whatever Leta has left Leta landed at 3, but is forced up Archon has free reign over 6, taking 8 scvs with him CC goes down, at 3, SCV maynard and get destroyed Stasis on the last few of Leta's tanks, vessel goes down, but he still has one, toss has the huge econ advantage and is just going to walk into Leta's base One goon picking off scvs at 6 oclock
Should have traded Leta away for Crazy Hydra or something along the lines of that for FPL.
Wemade-wise though, this is good. Victories are always good because the teeth of CJ is about to show up with Hydra/Snow/Movie/Skyhigh (who's especially dangerous in such a T-heavy team) looming.
I just saw Mantoss vs Sashin on the commercial I missed that game, I'm so sad... D= On another note, I'm being fat and eating during LR and matches again D=
On May 08 2011 13:38 X10A wrote: I just saw Mantoss vs Sashin on the commercial I missed that game, I'm so sad... D= On another note, I'm being fat and eating during LR and matches again D=
Roro morphing lair at his 11 expo, nat is morphing now Core is only 1/2 way complete for Snow Lings rallying to outside the nat choke Snow tricks a probe through the temple and minerals, to scout around the map Hes not going to be scouting 11 though Spire just planted Stargate 1/2 complete
Citadel warping, Snow clearly saw the Spire, and is looking around for the ninja expo Probe is going to get intercepted First sair is out, and 4th and 5th hatcherys at nat and 11 are morphing Sair is going to scout 11, scourge just pop, but sair manages to sneak away
2 scourge flying around Snows base, one gets shot down Forge is spinning, archives is complete DT moving towards 11, but den and hatchery are a nice sim city Roro has burrow researched, as is burrowed all over the map Robotics is warping for Snow, DT is denied entrance into the nat also
+1 cara for air Snow looking to expo to 9, but the ling is making it hard Snow loses his DT, and Roro has a nice bunch of mutas Is Snow oblivious to the burrow? Or does he know about it Lots of static defence Shuttle is out, going to ferry 2 archons into the main Snow loses the shuttle and a sair, but takes out a number of sairs Only 2 sairs left, 2 archons and 2 zealots are in the base Drones are burrowed All sairs are destroyed Snow's archon denied that bunch of drones stacked up Observatory is up now
Lurkers are complete and on the field Burrow at 9, but Snow has an ob, loses a HT by the death sound Lings taking out Roro's own temple are those slow lings? Lings kill off a cannon at the cost of all but 3 , don't get a chance to kill any maynarding probes One muta in the main of Snow, pulls out Roro has drop tech!? Drop has njot been spotted, Snow has nothing to defend with, and is out of position Only 2 cannons and they go down quickley Lurker in the na tmineral line with 3 probe kills Observer snipe, one lurker left, lurker burrows at the 9 oclock expo 3 and 1 kills respectivley Another drop getting setup for Roro 9 and 2 kills now
Epic storm at 9 Hydralurk drop in the main, Roro losing most of his drops, Snow losing nothing major, some probes and pylons? One lurker subbornley hitting the Archives Loses 2 HT, by running them in, Roro now has 1 oclock expo, Snow taking 7 I think
Epic storms on the Hydralurk army heaidng towrds 9, loses the lurkers acompanying the hydras
Roro double expanding to 3 and 5 Queens nest and a 2nd evo is morphing DT scouts out 3 oclock HT getting taken out leftt and right, but are able to storm before death Snow does not know about 5 yet One obs getting picked off, 2nd one getting pulled back into the army
Lurkers moving to the front door of the nat, get stormed as they are clumped Lings surrdound goons, and many go down, HT storming alot of Roro's army, all lurkers go down, but hydraling is attacking the nat front door Nice OL blocking the last surviving Lurker Hive has morphed 2-2 for Hydras 0-0-2 for toss ground
2-1 for lings Wheres the Snow that gave Tyrant a run for his money T.T Obs finally scouting 5 oclock Drop into Snows main, snipes a gateway and observatory Shuttle gets scourged, lands 3 zealots, gmoving out towards 3 and 5 One good storm takes out most of the hydras in the main 2 zealots at each expo, take out a couple of drones and stop mining time Defiler mound is upAnother drop, but the shuttle gets destroyed, lands a HT, I got excited when I saw 11 kills, but those were from before HT is still alive somewhere.... Another 11 kills to its name, 22 kills in total Snow moving out, gets his only obs sniped, did not see the drop coming aound to his main, lings getting dropped, Snow is countering by taking out 3 and 5 Archives get taken out Hatchery at 3 is taken out, as is 5 9 getting attacked by lurkerling + darkswarm Snow moving towards 1 oclock expo now Storm cleans up the 9 oclock attack Another drop attempt on Snow's main 1 oclock gets taken out ITS THE WOO FAN
9 oclock attacked again, nice defend with storm Roro has 90 supply to SNow's 150 Playyguuu Roro hardly mining at all, SNow has tons of money left Roro looking to take his island expo, but has no money for a hatchery Can someone answer this, can archons attack under swarm? Drones trying to distance mine GG from Roro
Shine has his nat morphing, Forge->Nexus for TigerToss Shine taking 9 oclock ninja expo? Or is that just something else on the minimap? Nope its a super ninja expo Lair morphing at the nat for Shine
Probe scouting around the map, 2 lings chasing it around, will not be able to get a spot on the 9 expo Citadel and stargate warping in Lair complete, Spire planted down Horang 2 10 gate build inc I hope ;D Archives morphing, first sair out, scouting around the nat. Taking shots at an OL Scourge are out for Shine, Three sairs are out now, have they scouted out the 9 oclock? 3 or 4 more gateways getting warped in Now they have scouted it, DT running away from something Scourge hit 2 separage Sairs DT is in the mineral line, 2 kills, halting mining Shine taking 8.5
On May 08 2011 14:10 GTR wrote: welcome back awkward cj wooing fan
Now go away and/or shut up
As much as I hate that fan and want to punch her in the face I do admire her dedication to go to every CJ game and "wooo" whenever a player appears to be winning.
That unit den is up for SHine Scourge in the main, get shot at, but take out a sair Burrowed lings! Shinanegans at the WeMade house Robo is complete, +1 for sairs is complete 4 slowlots and an archon are at the nat of Shine, but pull back Sair gets sniped from scourge Horang2 trying to expo to 2, but the burrowed ling is in the way Lings run by and take out the probe Shuttle is out, Archon and slowlots are attacking 8.5 , scourge chasing the sairs Hatchery goes down, Horang loses all his forces though He final clears the burrowed lings too 9 gates in total for Horang, DT trying to get some sneaky kills, but gets killed off by that unit.
2 hatcherys geting placed back up at 8.5, Hydralurk moving out towards the ramp of Horang Nice storms soften up the hydras, OL's popping to the sairs Shine still has quite a number of scourge and hydras, or wait, there mostly scourge Horang looking to expo to 3 oclock now, but burrowed ling will deny that 0-1 for Hydras Tons of scourge going down, killing two scourge htough 9 is busted, he has lost all static defence and hatchery, storms are melting thorugh the hydralurk 3 hatcherys at the 8.5 Horang barreling down the ramp, and has the 10 gate zealot rush headied towards the nat of Shine Tons of Zealots, but they don't get anywhere One hatchery goes down at 8.5
On May 08 2011 14:10 GTR wrote: welcome back awkward cj wooing fan
Now go away and/or shut up
As much as I hate that fan and want to punch her in the face I do admire her dedication to go to every CJ game and "wooo" whenever a player appears to be winning.
Drones maynarding back towards the main, 13 drone kills for that HT 3 for a zealot All drones die Muta switch for Shine Shuttle will be moving out to the main , dropping HT,only 3 kills though Mutas clean up the rest Shine hardly has any drones, his mutas are harassing the 3 expo, but he forced back to Horang's pressure to his nat Sunkens are going up and down, queens nest is getting morphed Only 3 sunkens left, muta's snipe a HT and reaver, but Horang has busted the nat GG from Shine
On May 08 2011 14:40 OpticalShot wrote: where's shine that used to pwn Bisu's BvZ? he kind of played bland imo. also credits to Horang2 for improving his PvZ.
I guess he took too much criticism and is playing a different style now, maybe :o
Ahh, it wouldn't be a game without ice cream <3 Does anyone know exactly when the OSL season starts? Or how far through the My Starleague has gone through?
On May 08 2011 14:40 OpticalShot wrote: where's shine that used to pwn Bisu's BvZ? he kind of played bland imo. also credits to Horang2 for improving his PvZ.
he has been missing for like...6 months now? so I think it's safe to assume he will never come back.
On May 08 2011 14:40 OpticalShot wrote: where's shine that used to pwn Bisu's BvZ? he kind of played bland imo. also credits to Horang2 for improving his PvZ.
I guess he took too much criticism and is playing a different style now, maybe :o
he's already shown that he can play this style very well (ie vs tyson on FS)
it's just pure management and shine made mistake in preparing 4th against DT drop while archon/zeal are elevator'd instead and paid price
12 hatch for Hydra, and he will be scouting Mind last Mind has started scouting towards 1, Drone attacking the scv scv will scout Hydra, but the drone does not get a scout into Mind's base Mind has his nat under construction Did Hydra 3 hatch before pool?
Lair morphing Mind's nat is complete, acadamy is 1/2 way complete Hydra almost gets 2 lings into the main of Mind Spire only 1/2 complete, 2nd rax, factory and ebay are under construction
what build is mind going for? barrack - factory - barrack - starport - barrack looks like he needs to rely on turrets anyways for defending against mutas
Starport and 3rd rax MnM+Fbats grouped outside the nat Turrets going up, and Mind is trying to take out his own temple Science facility is under construction now Hydra taking 1 oclock for an expo First vessel will be out soon Mind scans the 1 oclock expo
Hydra den and queens nest are complete, hive morphing Lurker aspect is researched Idle muta's, get one sniped, Hydra sliping with muta control Sandwich, but no mutas are lost just yet Irradiate, on the clump of mutas! 2 vessels out
mutas almost get surrounded lurkers in position on thirds ramp MUTAS get caught yet again and irradiated lucky irrdiated muta dies quickly T pushing out to 1.5
lurkers come from behind and prevents any backup ZERG tries a surround with LITTLE lings tanks get taken out only 1 lurker left on ramp T PUSHES UP TO 3rd TAKES OUT NYDUS
BioTank force and vessels moving towards 12, nydus canal is not yet complete in the nat Nydus completes, Lurkerling come through, both tanks go down, but only 4 lurlers left Defiler is out now Marines running up the ramp SNIPESD THE DEFILER AND NYDUS Sunken goes down, as will the hatchery and all drones
4 rax, 3 fact 1 starport Mind expoing to 9 Hydra needs antoher expo, looks like hes going for 7 oclock Lings try and get into the 9 expo, scv does not get killed off, Hatchery morphing at 7 0-1 for Bio Drone moving out again, towards 1 oclock 5 vessels One marine left at 1 oclock will spot the hatchery morphing Mind has spotted 7 oclock
Z expanding to 1.5 but 1 marine is left there lurkers getting sniped in the open defiler puts down a swarm and delays push to nat 7.5 gets taken out by t
Sigh Hydra... What's with you and your ZvT? Hopefully you'll step up your game the next time you face Mind in the MSL. Xellos, you got your work cut out for you to improve Hydra's ZvT!
Mind played beautifully, his macro, tech and control were all excellent, he had no holes in his base so muta harass was denied completely, and I think that defiler didn't have consume yet but I could of been wrong.
Hydra's ZvT is... pretty lacking to say the least. He may be called neo-effort, but until his he can improve on this match-up he won't be an S-class player like Effort was. He keeps making small errors in his play which cost him a lot...
CJ definitely will try to send out Skyhigh next since it's Empire of the Sun -> Baby's map. Probably so Baby v. Skyhigh and then Movie v. Major/Lucifer/Pure (probably Pure, no matter how badly he's been doing of late, Wemade seems to regard him as a vP person so...)
Baby has a fact building, SH building a bunker at his nat, Baby going to scout on his first try Factory slightly later than Baby's, for SH 2nd fact from Baby 2nd fact for SH under construction SH is not going to scout the expo at 9, that Baby sneaked
Armory acadamy for SH Armory finished first for Baby 3rd and 4th fact for Baby 3rd fact for SH SH moving out with his small force, of 2 rines 2 gols a vulture and tank
SH pulling back, He has 2 facts with add ons, both spinning I don't think SH knows about the hidden 2nd expo yet Scan, maybe it was on it not too sure Mech force of SH moving around mid mad, Baby seiged up on of the the ridges to try and hit of of SH's forces SH having to fight up hill, pulls back Loses his tank support Baby protecting 2 tanks very well, one tank has 7 kills o.o Baby is taking his nat now, as well as starting a starport Baby at 87 supply SH at 77
SH jas a starport of his own SH loses his forward tank force to spidermines and mech Hes looking to take 1 oclock, but a vulture from Baby will sport it SH cancels CC building in base for SH and a dropshup, researching cloak too Baby only has the dropship, no flashing add on Wraith is oging to intercept the dropshup, but it gets to dorop off its cargo SSH dropping 4 vultures at the nat, Getting a couple of scv kills, wraith huting down dropshups 2nd port for SH, only one for Baby so far
On May 08 2011 15:17 Holgerius wrote: So Hydra had both consume and plague done, and still let a group of MnM run up a ramp (where he had both lurkers and a defiler) and win the game?
Baby, has a second port at his 3rd at 9, my mistake Valkyrie for Baby, and the CC is floating all the way over to 1 oclock 3 valks for Baby, and a wraith SH pushing out, has to push down the ramp, wraiths picking off the tanks Cloakuuu Loses all his wraiths, for a wraith or two SH taking both 1 and 1 nat CC at nat for Baby Dropship, moving across the right side for Baby, his airfoce is also moving towards SH's forces Loses a wraith Last tank goes down, CC bunder construction at 11, goes down, does not cacel Drop at 1 nat! 3 vultures wrecking scvs Dropship sniped by wraiths
Baby picking at SH's tanks, with cloak wraiths, and mass vulture attacking the front Gols take out all but 3 of Baby's wraiths, although SH has Several at his main Vultures harassing 1 nat, SH wallking off 1 main, cancels as the danger is delt with for now Tank and air engagemnts in the middle, gols taking out alot of the airforce, 163 supply for Baby 150 for SH
15 kill vulture finally dies. for some reason skyhigh decided it was better to just sit there as it attacks scvs for 2 minutes than to a-move some scvs on it and finish it off.
On May 08 2011 15:17 Holgerius wrote: So Hydra had both consume and plague done, and still let a group of MnM run up a ramp (where he had both lurkers and a defiler) and win the game?
wtf he had both done?
No, I'm just retarded and mixed up the symbols for the upgrades. XD Haven't played Zerg in a while. But he had consume.
One vulture with 10 kills at 1 nat 3 vultures at 1 main Tons of scvs getting destroyed in those drops ANother drop at the nat of SH He has a gol to clean up though 0-1 for SH Another drop at 1 Baby has tried to take 11 4 vultures dropped at 1 Wraiths taking out tanks, no minging at 1 or 1 nat SH taking 2 oclock now Baby mining on the farside of the mineral patches at 11 Wraiths just pew pew pewing at tanks, gols slightly out of position
0-2 for Baby's mech 0-2 for SH's SH needs more scvs and to harass more So many wraiths, running out of cloak One vulture just destroying scvs at 2 Two dropshups get sniped by Baby's wraiths
Baby's wraiths getting into 2 oclock, vultures to 1 nat Wraiths pew pew pewing away at tanks 1-1 for the wraiths Baby has 5.5 and is dropping 1 oclock aswell This is like the never ending harass 2 oclock is going to be destroyed of force lift Gols taking out wraiths, but Baby has alot still CC goes down 4 vultures in the main of SH gg from SH
On May 08 2011 15:17 Holgerius wrote: So Hydra had both consume and plague done, and still let a group of MnM run up a ramp (where he had both lurkers and a defiler) and win the game?
No . defiler was sniped just before consume finished .
On May 08 2011 15:17 Holgerius wrote: So Hydra had both consume and plague done, and still let a group of MnM run up a ramp (where he had both lurkers and a defiler) and win the game?
wtf he had both done?
No, I'm just retarded and mixed up the symbols for the upgrades. XD Haven't played Zerg in a while. But he had consume.
On May 08 2011 15:17 Holgerius wrote: So Hydra had both consume and plague done, and still let a group of MnM run up a ramp (where he had both lurkers and a defiler) and win the game?
No . defiler was sniped just before consume finished .
You sure? I was just watching with one eye, but didn't the consume finish right before Mind pushed up?
12 nex from Movie? Midas has his nat under construction Movie scouting to 1 oclock, first Mocie scouting Midas last, Bunker at the nat for Midas, Fact just starting for Midas Probe goes down from bunker fire
Midas looks so cute, Robotics is almost complete, range is upgrading Acadamy and 2nd fact are almost complete as well Movie taking his mineral only Obs first
Midas hasn't scouted yet... From his FPview, hes at 56 supply Not sure about Movie, 2nd Midas FPview this game Midas finally scouting Tanks and MnM moving out, 4 or 5 gates for Movie 6 marines, 4 tanks, 2 vultures vs 6 goons Movie getting pushed back
Marines are going down, a tank get sniped Midas going to spot the 3rd base Midas is taking 7 oclock LOL Seige mode is completed Shuttle is out Nexus is DOWN Only 2 zealots dropped Almost all of Movie's goons are lost Midas taking his mineral only aswell No tanks left, but Movie is setback from the loss of his Nexus Vulture getting 7 kills before dying 4 facts total for Midas, 7 or 8 gates for Movie 1 oclock has a nexus morphing in
Movie dropping zealots all over the tanks Goons destryogin the tanks Zealots streaming in BABY BEAR Nuuuu!!! Movie my Facebook post is helping you! The nat is breached, Movie is trying to break up the ramp, but falls back because of the tank shelling Forge is spinning for Movie, stargate is flashing CC at mineral only forced to lift, but Midas still has the income from the 7 oclock Barracks was lost, Midas adding 3 more facts I think7 in total now
Nexus warping in at 6, 4 HT loaded up into that shuttle? Ebay is getting rebuilt aswell Goons moving down the midmap, first arbiter is out Vultures attacking 6 oclock, Science vessel is out aswell Movie storms the tanks! Storm all over the clumped tanks Movie with a little smirk, but he loses his 6 oclock Mass repair on the Mineral only CC Midas building one at 12, but it will get spotted by the retreating Goons 141 supply to 134 Midas-Movie Both players expanding again Movie to 3 Midas to 5 nat
Movie is at 172 supply I SWEAR MOVIE DONT GO CARRIERS AGAIN He has a DT out, and another shuttle full of HT 16 gateways for Movie 1-2 for mech 0-0-1 for Toss Probes maynarding to 1 nat, do not get spotted Movie engaging Midas mid map Movie doesn't spot 7 oclock but is going for a reacall Movie storms the clumped up tanks, destroying all but 4
Last storm on several tanks, on the last HT of the recall Probe FINALLY spots 7 oclock... finally Movie moving out to attack it Midas trying to take 12 oclock aswell, but gets spotted by zealots 17 kill archon Movie attacking the mineral only again through 12 oclock Vultures are harassing at 6, but zealots run into mines and then let the vultures continue hammering away at the nexus 7 is still mining, and the attack on the mineral only was somewhat successful 9 oclock has a CC landed, the one from 7 nat Movie expanding to 1oclock mineral only 2-3 for Midas 1-0-2 for Movie Midas pushing 1 oclock, but is getting 7 taken down, finally...
Arbiter moving towards Midas' mineral only again, for a recall Movie loses 1 nat, and 1 mineral only, 1 main is getting shelled, but it looks like. Movie went carriers. T.T Better not throw the game away like vs Fantasy
Movie taking 7 oclock, Midas pressuring Movie's 3 olock expo, Attack force grouped for a recall, took awhile to respond to it GG from Baby Bear I'm sorry MIdas, <3 MOVIE <3
Horang2 yawning, Pure pumping himself up Coach to Horang 2 "Better win like this -.-" Coach to Midas "Better luck next time, X10A will cheer for you if its not against Movie, or Reach"
But honestly, I'd put my money on Pure in this MU. For some reason, I just never could believe in Horang2, even when he wins... just doesn't seem right.
edit: and yes, I know Horang2's stats, but even if he was over 100% in his PvP i'd still vote for his opponent!!!
jesus christ fox, you want to use pure for ace? The map is so damn P heavy Horang is almost guaranteed, just play someone who is actually good at the game
Pure has gateway and gas before Horang has a pylon? Nevermind I'm stupid Both players going for their cores Horang2's scout just running around Pure's core not spinning? Or just a delayed upgrade my bad Both cores spinning Citadel for Horang2 Nothing higher tech yet for Pure
3 goons, 2 zealots moving around mid map for Pure Robo added DT's are out for Horang, he also is taking his nat The coaches and players can see everything we can right? GG from Pure 2/2 LB
On May 08 2011 16:44 Release wrote: What did pure do so badly? I didn't see anything significant
I think Pure went for a 4 gate build. Horang2 went fast DTs.
Pure pretty much autolost the build order game. Can't really say Pure did anything badly considering the DT is the only unit in the game that can autowin games if you don't prepare for it.
On May 08 2011 16:44 Release wrote: What did pure do so badly? I didn't see anything significant
I think Pure went for a 4 gate build. Horang2 went fast DTs.
Pure pretty much autolost the build order game. Can't really say Pure did anything badly considering the DT is the only unit in the game that can autowin games if you don't prepare for it.
On May 08 2011 16:44 Release wrote: What did pure do so badly? I didn't see anything significant
Opponent went DTs
Pure didn't have any observers
gg
Instead of getting robotics after expanding, Pure put down two more gateways and used up gas for more dragoons. His robotics was about to finish when Horang2's two DTs reached his natural.
well if this is not a wierd thing to see when one wakes up, Pure is the last player I would've thought to be used in an Ace match, why wasn't Baby used? or even Mind, if the coaches were worried about CJ expecting a terran then Roro could've been sent, but Pure is someone I don't think anyone would bet on to be sent out in an Ace match.
pure vs horang2... sounds like a real acematch... I remember times, when ppl complained, that killer was sent out by Oz in Acematch... What would those ppl do now?
On May 08 2011 17:42 BLinD-RawR wrote: uhhhh why did Wemade send out Pure for Ace match?
Map should be tipping guys off, but still. Pure sucks. BaBy with all 3 races on Bloody Ridge is better than Pure with P on Bloody Ridge.
On May 08 2011 19:48 mahrgell wrote: pure vs horang2... sounds like a real acematch... I remember times, when ppl complained, that killer was sent out by Oz in Acematch... What would those ppl do now?
There is a slight difference between Killer on ace match and Pure on ace match. Pure was sent on a rather favorable map for protoss and a terran would have a hard time on bloody ridge provided that Snow played instead of horang2 (Snow's PvT is better than Horang2's PvP and the map is so favorable for PvT). Killer on ace match is just not acceptable and it doesn't even make sense. Against Hwaseung, any team would prepare for an ace match against Jaedong, so ace match candidate would work his ass off for the game, and for the sake of not being sniped, you send a weaker zerg against zerg sniper. Well, Jaedong would play better than Killer even if he didn't practice for the last 3 months.
Oh geez, I can't believe it, I passed out game 6 and just checked my FPL Team, I love past me for trading s2 for Horang2, It's probably the best decision I've ever made :D. +16 for Horang2 for the trade alone.
Great games last night, although I'm so happy CJ won, Hydra really needs to get together and get back into his groove. Also, not complaining, but Pure in Ace? Kind of weird, Can anybody also tell me why Snow wasn't the best choice for CJ? I'm not a Map expert or anything, so I was just curious.
On May 08 2011 17:33 Emon_ wrote: Forge & Cannons viable? Then again, Pure was probably doing an all-in and wasn't thinking about late game.
2 wins for the Horang. . . F-YEEEEEEEEEEAH!! Good on the rest of the CJ tosses for pulling their weight. Skyhigh, I am disappoint.
More like he thought about the late game but didn't think about the early game. How the heck is expand and add 2 gateways = all in?
From the skimming the LR thread I thought it was 4gate/goon all-in. My bad.
On May 08 2011 23:01 Blixy213 wrote: Great games last night, although I'm so happy CJ won, Hydra really needs to get together and get back into his groove. Also, not complaining, but Pure in Ace? Kind of weird, Can anybody also tell me why Snow wasn't the best choice for CJ? I'm not a Map expert or anything, so I was just curious.
Snow has lackluster PvP. Wemade expected Snow, and Pure was prepared to snipe him. CJ was one step ahead and sent out their PvP bonjwa.
Haha, and there I was looking at the spoiler-free linueups and results wondering if they just sent Baby or perhaps considered using Mind for the ace match, I clicked and couldn't believe my own eyes there for a second. Pure, really?
Oh well, happy to see Mind still doing really well.
WeMade always had pretty bad decision making from the coach. At least with January, I see it as an act of believing in her lesser players and giving them chances. With WeMade, it feels random.
How hard is it for WeMade to understand their only 2 good players are Baby and Mind. Send one of them..
Oh the decisions aren't random. If anything, WeMade anticipated Protoss to snipe Baby/Mind and send out Pure and trust in his PvP. The fault lies in that Pure sucks.
On May 09 2011 03:10 FakePlasticLove wrote: How hard is it for WeMade to understand their only 2 good players are Baby and Mind. Send one of them..
Oh the decisions aren't random. If anything, WeMade anticipated Protoss to snipe Baby/Mind and send out Pure and trust in his PvP. The fault lies in that Pure sucks.
I believe this is what happened too, maybe the coach wanted to put some faith in Pure. He just... didn't deliver. But honestly, if he wants to build Pure's skills/confidence/momentum back up again it shouldn't be in the ace match.
I was really anticipating Mind/Baby to be sent out regardless of map, like how KT is with Flash, the best player is always sent to finish the job.
Pure is slumping harder than Jangbi. Last 30 games: Pure: 6wins 24 losses Jangbi: 8wins 22 losses
Send Mind/Baby/Shine. Just checked the stats - Shine is 2-8 in his last 10 vP games. That makes me sad because he could go head to head with Bisu & Stork and still play aggressive games with confidence. Zero has definitely taken his place now
I must commend Pure, though, for not having a fantasy gg timing. That was one of the worst build order losses I've ever seen in terms of how hard Horang2's build countered Pure's.
I can't believe my eyes. First we see Roro losing to Snow at his own request. Then Midas overexpanding, and the most idiotic move - send Pure to Ace match. OMG That guy is so terrbile that he should be moved to Team B.
Anyway all matches except the last one were exciting. Especially Midas vs Movie.