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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
November 12 2004 03:31 GMT
#21
some of you act like 8 rax is something new, alot of the koreans used it in wsl :o
and alot of non koreans too ;d
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 04:08:33
November 12 2004 03:31 GMT
#22
Seriously man, ease up. -Mani
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 12 2004 03:38 GMT
#23
Boxer said:


people might say I won too easily but they don't know how much effort was put into coming up with this strat. I worked all night for many days to find the exact timing where the zerg can't block the bunker rush even though he knows about it. Really, I prepared more than the past finals I have been in. I was extremely stressed. I was thinking of doing a different strat if my early marine/scv strat didn't work.

I think I know more about Yellow than anyone else. So during practice I thought to myself "this won't work against Yellow" or "Yellow will overcome this easily". So during practice I asked my partners to do specific strats. Mumyung helped out the most and so did Zerglee and many other semi-pros at my team. Also July from POS helped out a lot. With the scv/marine/bunker strat, I beat July 5 times in a row.


It's not JUST a 8 rack rush, it has been refined.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
indecision
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Germany818 Posts
November 12 2004 03:42 GMT
#24
I'm definitely waiting for the VODs
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
November 12 2004 03:48 GMT
#25
He worked all night for many days to come up with 8 barrack 6 scv attack? I wish just once he would have shown that special secondary strat..because that must have been where his many hard working hours went. It's so refined, but it's the exact same strat on every map at the same time..what the hell is refined about that? That's also pretty gay to say he beat July 5 times in a row with that..it's so fuckin unprofessional
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 04:02:15
November 12 2004 03:55 GMT
#26
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uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
November 12 2004 04:02 GMT
#27
man i've never had someone so blatantly slap me in the face after i try to make peace with them. so hasuwar, you asked that i don't "ever PM you again" after i send you a nice polite PM. why you wouldn't want to keep it private instead of public i really don't understand, but it's your wish so i'll just post right here. if you indeed weren't referring to me as a clown and a "fuckin' idiot," but were referring to rei, does that make it any better? his post really doesn't seem inflammatory to me at all, but you definitely stepped it up. it annoyed me enough thinking your asshole comments were aimed at me, but it's even more annoying that you think i should be cool with it just because you weren't talking to me.

anyway, i'm just saying keep it civil man. we're not talking about your family here bro we're talking about sc. neither you nor i have to be fucking right on every point, but if you come at people saying they're idiots, you should expect and take every negative response with a smile. if what you wanted was just to flame and bitch people out online, instead of a reasoned discussion, i'd politely ask that you take it elsewhere.

oh and you're welcome to PM me at any time.
i want bubbles the warrior monkey back
Archon_Wing
Profile Joined May 2004
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 04:09:42
November 12 2004 04:03 GMT
#28
Poor Yellow. But, a loss is a loss and a win is a win.
Boxer beat July 5 times in a row with that? Well, I'd like to see these two duke it out in a match that means something before I'll pass judgement.

I want to throw out one question though. What about Silent_Control?
Nothing witty here atm
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
November 12 2004 04:06 GMT
#29
"He worked all night for many days to come up with 8 barrack 6 scv attack?"

And he made it work. Consider this: Gundam beats many top protosses with a simple-looking 2 SCV 4 Marine 1 Tank 1 Vulture rush strategy. Do you see any other terrans consistently owning good protoss with this strategy? Gundam has worked extensively, even harder than boxer, to make his gundam rush get to the opponent a few seconds earlier with each improvement. Boxer has done the same to the 8rax bunker rush strategy. It looks easy to do on paper, but Boxer refined the strategy so that his SCVs and marine attack earlier than any other terran can.
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
November 12 2004 04:07 GMT
#30
Good fucking job Hasuwar, let's piss off more people that contribute to this site x394820347235 than you.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27178 Posts
November 12 2004 04:07 GMT
#31
Ack, hasu, keep it civil please.
ModeratorGodfather
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
November 12 2004 04:08 GMT
#32
Sorry I will back off.
Geval
Profile Joined September 2004
788 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 04:19:20
November 12 2004 04:11 GMT
#33
On November 12 2004 12:11 hasuwar wrote:
Is there something in the air today?

Build a barracks on 8, make two marines, and attack with 6 scvs..what the hell do you have to practice in this strategy? Stay out of a line to a resource so he can't hit attack?

Yes, any newb can beat 9 drones with 6 scvs, two marines, and an upcoming bunker if you ask me

It's not strong because of his super leet micro (not to say that he doesn't have it), it's strong because the zerg got caught with his pants down every time and had to fight with drones only..

Yes, I'm sure yellow knew boxer was going to do this everytime, and that his secret plan was to try to beat back 6 scvs, a bunker, and marines with drones only to win..are you that fuckin' stupid?

I'd be pretty pissed off if I was yellow..they always seem so friendly in the pictures and shit..for him to cheese him every game and not try to play one straight game with him was pretty fuckin sad

So stop fu.. (i'm trying to keep it civil) around here go to ONG and beat all zerg with this strats if "any newb can beat 9 drones with 6 scvs" ( I believe you are at least a newb right?).
Yellow got owned 3-0 and July 5-0!!!
Great you can do it too right? owning Yellow and July
Congrats
WOW cant believe LT gave me BETA KEY thx thx thx thx thx
uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
November 12 2004 04:11 GMT
#34
On November 12 2004 13:06 iamke55 wrote:
"He worked all night for many days to come up with 8 barrack 6 scv attack?"

And he made it work. Consider this: Gundam beats many top protosses with a simple-looking 2 SCV 4 Marine 1 Tank 1 Vulture rush strategy. Do you see any other terrans consistently owning good protoss with this strategy? Gundam has worked extensively, even harder than boxer, to make his gundam rush get to the opponent a few seconds earlier with each improvement. Boxer has done the same to the 8rax bunker rush strategy. It looks easy to do on paper, but Boxer refined the strategy so that his SCVs and marine attack earlier than any other terran can.


it would be great to have the actual reps of these matches, to see what subtle differences and adjustments there are to boxer's bunker/cheese rushes-- i.e. how does map (so distance to z base), scouting timing, number of scv's rushing and number remaining, etc. affect the timing that the cheese rush goes in. it looked slightly different in each of the games, and also each of the games had yellow doing different hatchery timing (it seemed like in game 1 he 12 hatched, game 2 he 9 hatched, and game 3 he 10 hatched, but i can't be sure). even 1 second later could mean the difference between success or failure, so this subtlety might get lost just watching the VODs.

i want bubbles the warrior monkey back
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 04:25:33
November 12 2004 04:14 GMT
#35
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 12 2004 04:24 GMT
#36
Didn't boxer ask his practice partner to go for a specific build order?
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
FeelTheMoment
Profile Joined August 2004
89 Posts
November 12 2004 04:25 GMT
#37
They play for money, not for public pleasure.
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
November 12 2004 04:25 GMT
#38
whaomg, Yellow, nooo! *voted boxer*
Moonlight Shadow
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 12 2004 04:27 GMT
#39
On November 12 2004 13:11 uhjoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2004 13:06 iamke55 wrote:
"He worked all night for many days to come up with 8 barrack 6 scv attack?"

And he made it work. Consider this: Gundam beats many top protosses with a simple-looking 2 SCV 4 Marine 1 Tank 1 Vulture rush strategy. Do you see any other terrans consistently owning good protoss with this strategy? Gundam has worked extensively, even harder than boxer, to make his gundam rush get to the opponent a few seconds earlier with each improvement. Boxer has done the same to the 8rax bunker rush strategy. It looks easy to do on paper, but Boxer refined the strategy so that his SCVs and marine attack earlier than any other terran can.


it would be great to have the actual reps of these matches, to see what subtle differences and adjustments there are to boxer's bunker/cheese rushes-- i.e. how does map (so distance to z base), scouting timing, number of scv's rushing and number remaining, etc. affect the timing that the cheese rush goes in. it looked slightly different in each of the games, and also each of the games had yellow doing different hatchery timing (it seemed like in game 1 he 12 hatched, game 2 he 9 hatched, and game 3 he 10 hatched, but i can't be sure). even 1 second later could mean the difference between success or failure, so this subtlety might get lost just watching the VODs.



<3 I had that thought at least 2029375029375029397508254 times this evening, I'd like to analyze it, like you can analyze Gundam...
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Geval
Profile Joined September 2004
788 Posts
November 12 2004 04:28 GMT
#40
I pretty sure, it would be perfectly fine for many ppl if hasuwar got
WOW cant believe LT gave me BETA KEY thx thx thx thx thx
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