and alot of non koreans too ;d
Boxer and Yellow and what they showed in ogn semi - Page 2
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Sadist
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hasuwar
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
people might say I won too easily but they don't know how much effort was put into coming up with this strat. I worked all night for many days to find the exact timing where the zerg can't block the bunker rush even though he knows about it. Really, I prepared more than the past finals I have been in. I was extremely stressed. I was thinking of doing a different strat if my early marine/scv strat didn't work. I think I know more about Yellow than anyone else. So during practice I thought to myself "this won't work against Yellow" or "Yellow will overcome this easily". So during practice I asked my partners to do specific strats. Mumyung helped out the most and so did Zerglee and many other semi-pros at my team. Also July from POS helped out a lot. With the scv/marine/bunker strat, I beat July 5 times in a row. It's not JUST a 8 rack rush, it has been refined. | ||
indecision
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hasuwar
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Ack1027
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uhjoo
Korea (South)1740 Posts
anyway, i'm just saying keep it civil man. we're not talking about your family here bro we're talking about sc. neither you nor i have to be fucking right on every point, but if you come at people saying they're idiots, you should expect and take every negative response with a smile. if what you wanted was just to flame and bitch people out online, instead of a reasoned discussion, i'd politely ask that you take it elsewhere. oh and you're welcome to PM me at any time. | ||
Archon_Wing
United States378 Posts
![]() Boxer beat July 5 times in a row with that? Well, I'd like to see these two duke it out in a match that means something before I'll pass judgement. I want to throw out one question though. What about Silent_Control? | ||
iamke55
United States2806 Posts
And he made it work. Consider this: Gundam beats many top protosses with a simple-looking 2 SCV 4 Marine 1 Tank 1 Vulture rush strategy. Do you see any other terrans consistently owning good protoss with this strategy? Gundam has worked extensively, even harder than boxer, to make his gundam rush get to the opponent a few seconds earlier with each improvement. Boxer has done the same to the 8rax bunker rush strategy. It looks easy to do on paper, but Boxer refined the strategy so that his SCVs and marine attack earlier than any other terran can. | ||
Ack1027
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Manifesto7
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Ack1027
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Geval
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On November 12 2004 12:11 hasuwar wrote: Is there something in the air today? Build a barracks on 8, make two marines, and attack with 6 scvs..what the hell do you have to practice in this strategy? Stay out of a line to a resource so he can't hit attack? Yes, any newb can beat 9 drones with 6 scvs, two marines, and an upcoming bunker if you ask me It's not strong because of his super leet micro (not to say that he doesn't have it), it's strong because the zerg got caught with his pants down every time and had to fight with drones only.. Yes, I'm sure yellow knew boxer was going to do this everytime, and that his secret plan was to try to beat back 6 scvs, a bunker, and marines with drones only to win..are you that fuckin' stupid? I'd be pretty pissed off if I was yellow..they always seem so friendly in the pictures and shit..for him to cheese him every game and not try to play one straight game with him was pretty fuckin sad So stop fu.. (i'm trying to keep it civil) around here go to ONG and beat all zerg with this strats if "any newb can beat 9 drones with 6 scvs" ( I believe you are at least a newb right?). Yellow got owned 3-0 and July 5-0!!! Great you can do it too right? owning Yellow and July Congrats | ||
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uhjoo
Korea (South)1740 Posts
On November 12 2004 13:06 iamke55 wrote: "He worked all night for many days to come up with 8 barrack 6 scv attack?" And he made it work. Consider this: Gundam beats many top protosses with a simple-looking 2 SCV 4 Marine 1 Tank 1 Vulture rush strategy. Do you see any other terrans consistently owning good protoss with this strategy? Gundam has worked extensively, even harder than boxer, to make his gundam rush get to the opponent a few seconds earlier with each improvement. Boxer has done the same to the 8rax bunker rush strategy. It looks easy to do on paper, but Boxer refined the strategy so that his SCVs and marine attack earlier than any other terran can. it would be great to have the actual reps of these matches, to see what subtle differences and adjustments there are to boxer's bunker/cheese rushes-- i.e. how does map (so distance to z base), scouting timing, number of scv's rushing and number remaining, etc. affect the timing that the cheese rush goes in. it looked slightly different in each of the games, and also each of the games had yellow doing different hatchery timing (it seemed like in game 1 he 12 hatched, game 2 he 9 hatched, and game 3 he 10 hatched, but i can't be sure). even 1 second later could mean the difference between success or failure, so this subtlety might get lost just watching the VODs. | ||
hasuwar
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
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FeelTheMoment
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useLess
United States4781 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On November 12 2004 13:11 uhjoo wrote: it would be great to have the actual reps of these matches, to see what subtle differences and adjustments there are to boxer's bunker/cheese rushes-- i.e. how does map (so distance to z base), scouting timing, number of scv's rushing and number remaining, etc. affect the timing that the cheese rush goes in. it looked slightly different in each of the games, and also each of the games had yellow doing different hatchery timing (it seemed like in game 1 he 12 hatched, game 2 he 9 hatched, and game 3 he 10 hatched, but i can't be sure). even 1 second later could mean the difference between success or failure, so this subtlety might get lost just watching the VODs. <3 I had that thought at least 2029375029375029397508254 times this evening, I'd like to analyze it, like you can analyze Gundam... | ||
Geval
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