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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 31 2011 10:39 GMT
#381
On January 31 2011 19:37 Holgerius wrote:
I wanna see Stats snipe Sea.

Thanks coach.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
January 31 2011 10:40 GMT
#382
The Chin is in!
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
January 31 2011 10:40 GMT
#383
Stats three-kill incoming
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
January 31 2011 10:40 GMT
#384
On January 31 2011 19:33 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 19:31 Ryo wrote:
On January 31 2011 19:30 LLXC wrote:
If Action didn't suicide so much into mines, he would have easily won this game...wow

It's not easy though, zerg has to control so much shit


Well, if you know there are mines, you can still run a few zerglings in first. Instead of your whole fxcking army.



You know what often happens when you run a few zerglings first? They get shot by vultures and tanks before defusing any mines. Action's weakness is large army control. That's the difference between a top zerg like Zero or Jaedong and lower tier zergs like Action.

Action didn't even need to take it to late game. He could have ended the game with mutas if he decided not to switch to lurkers/hive tech. Sea's tech was so late mass mutas would have ended it before Sea could take a 3rd.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 31 2011 10:40 GMT
#385
Action made so many "arrogant" mistakes. The first ultralisk attack was one of the biggest. He was hive tech in supply lead and he threw away his first 5-6 ultras when Sea's army wasn't even spread. Maybe he didn't know about the mechswitch but once he saw it he should have turned back, something action never did all game long.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
January 31 2011 10:40 GMT
#386
--- Nuked ---
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
January 31 2011 10:40 GMT
#387
On January 31 2011 19:39 darklordjac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 19:38 Hier wrote:
On January 31 2011 19:35 mizU wrote:
On January 31 2011 19:34 Hier wrote:
Too much unreasonably harsh criticism towards Action from our local "experts" here.


I don't think it was unreasonable.
I think most people know that running your army into mines... is generally a bad idea.


Mine sweeping with zerglings is nothing uncommon. Although there are valid criticism towards Action during that game, that's not one of them.


Some zerglings are fine, but not your whole army over and over.


That depends on the amount of mines that are on the field.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
January 31 2011 10:40 GMT
#388
ooo the chin
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
January 31 2011 10:40 GMT
#389
On January 31 2011 19:38 thestool91 wrote:
I think the problem was that action let sea eat up the 4 bases so easily.

And I'm not being biased but as a zerg user, we all can agree that its rare for zerg to have a "han-bang push" compared to a terran. As zerg, you have to keep riding your advantage and keep winning multiple battles, whereas for protoss and terran against zerg, one good battle means that you can win from it. I hope I'm not the only zerg player that rides a huge advantage until a few misclicks and you're done :p.

My suggestion is that he could have harassed the 3 and the 530 way more in the beginning. Before the vults were up, if only action sent ling harass to those expos sea would have gone insane and gged. But no, action wanted to show off his late game defiler usage and lost.


can anyone also agree that those drops were really weak? either a defiler and like an ultra or a control group of lings. If only action was more composed and went for bigger drops in the expos i think he could have had it.
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 31 2011 10:41 GMT
#390
On January 31 2011 19:40 StylishVODs wrote:
Action made so many "arrogant" mistakes. The first ultralisk attack was one of the biggest. He was hive tech in supply lead and he threw away his first 5-6 ultras when Sea's army wasn't even spread. Maybe he didn't know about the mechswitch but once he saw it he should have turned back, something action never did all game long.


His opponent was floating his barracks all over the map. He was very aware.
Remember Violet.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 31 2011 10:41 GMT
#391
Despite how much shit we are giving Action, Sea deserves a ton of props for the play he showed from the mech switch and onwards.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
January 31 2011 10:42 GMT
#392
he had 50 population in the overlords as well
and what do you expect 8 bases drones take supply as well his macro was good from what i've seen its just most of them died to mines
so many mines
props for sea to refilling them with new ones
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
January 31 2011 10:42 GMT
#393
On January 31 2011 19:38 Hier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 19:35 mizU wrote:
On January 31 2011 19:34 Hier wrote:
Too much unreasonably harsh criticism towards Action from our local "experts" here.


I don't think it was unreasonable.
I think most people know that running your army into mines... is generally a bad idea.


Mine sweeping with zerglings is nothing uncommon. Although there are valid criticism towards Action during that game, that's not one of them.



Was in one of the best position he can get with his opening.
He ran hydra and ULTRALISK into mines.
He let sea set up the 4th base with gas without any HARASSMENT until it was set up with some units.
Didn't macro to a big army and keep on suicide his little troops into mines and tank hits before they can actually combat.
DJONES
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States218 Posts
January 31 2011 10:43 GMT
#394
I think action needs to watch the day9 daily on fighting mech.
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
January 31 2011 10:43 GMT
#395
Here we go Sea 2nd kill!!
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
January 31 2011 10:44 GMT
#396
On January 31 2011 19:40 thestool91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 19:38 thestool91 wrote:
I think the problem was that action let sea eat up the 4 bases so easily.

And I'm not being biased but as a zerg user, we all can agree that its rare for zerg to have a "han-bang push" compared to a terran. As zerg, you have to keep riding your advantage and keep winning multiple battles, whereas for protoss and terran against zerg, one good battle means that you can win from it. I hope I'm not the only zerg player that rides a huge advantage until a few misclicks and you're done :p.

My suggestion is that he could have harassed the 3 and the 530 way more in the beginning. Before the vults were up, if only action sent ling harass to those expos sea would have gone insane and gged. But no, action wanted to show off his late game defiler usage and lost.


can anyone also agree that those drops were really weak? either a defiler and like an ultra or a control group of lings. If only action was more composed and went for bigger drops in the expos i think he could have had it.

I was disappointed that Action didn't go for the production facilities until way too late. Lurker/ling/defiler could have done wonders at the factories anytime between 20-35 minutes, especially since Sea was defending at the front every time *just barely* with reinforcing tanks at the back.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
January 31 2011 10:44 GMT
#397
seas scout doesnt last long. gets taken out by the lone goon
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
January 31 2011 10:45 GMT
#398
stats starts nexus at nat
seas shop is spinning,
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
January 31 2011 10:45 GMT
#399
cc thrown down at natural
Monkeyshark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States406 Posts
January 31 2011 10:45 GMT
#400
On January 31 2011 19:44 Tianx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 19:40 thestool91 wrote:
On January 31 2011 19:38 thestool91 wrote:
I think the problem was that action let sea eat up the 4 bases so easily.

And I'm not being biased but as a zerg user, we all can agree that its rare for zerg to have a "han-bang push" compared to a terran. As zerg, you have to keep riding your advantage and keep winning multiple battles, whereas for protoss and terran against zerg, one good battle means that you can win from it. I hope I'm not the only zerg player that rides a huge advantage until a few misclicks and you're done :p.

My suggestion is that he could have harassed the 3 and the 530 way more in the beginning. Before the vults were up, if only action sent ling harass to those expos sea would have gone insane and gged. But no, action wanted to show off his late game defiler usage and lost.


can anyone also agree that those drops were really weak? either a defiler and like an ultra or a control group of lings. If only action was more composed and went for bigger drops in the expos i think he could have had it.

I was disappointed that Action didn't go for the production facilities until way too late. Lurker/ling/defiler could have done wonders at the factories anytime between 20-35 minutes, especially since Sea was defending at the front every time *just barely* with reinforcing tanks at the back.


Seriously, did he not like the idea of doom drop? There was only a few turret at the natural where he can sack a few empty overlord and make a doom drop.
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