[OSL] Grand Final - Page 198

On January 30 2011 05:35 StorkHwaiting wrote:


What? You mean expect for the fact he picked absolutely horrible builds that played directly into Fantasy's hand and insisted on going carriers even though he already saw goli range with +atk upgrades spinning at armory when he came in with his first reaver?? Micro's not everything buddy. In fact, it's only a very tiny part of the game. If you don't understand how horribly Stork played from a bo5 perspective, then you should reanalyze the way you think about SC.

The wraith wasn't a fantastic read. It was an easy guess because Stork apparently thinks he can go standard play every game and win. Fantasy did blind counter builds both games. He didn't read anything. Nor was it a very sick followup. It was a basic slow tank/vulture push that Stork had zero chance of stopping after losing his shuttle.

In summary, Fantasy did nothing except snipe two shuttles then laugh as Stork's normal greedy 3 base play got wrecked due to not having reaver/shuttle for defense. You're using a whole bunch of hyperbole to compliment play that was really not all that special. Stork lost this series much more than Fantasy won it.

On January 30 2011 10:30 SilverJohnny wrote:
So is there any place where VoD's are available?

On January 30 2011 07:42 ArvickHero wrote:

Stork's builds weren't horrible, they were the standard response and extremely good against Rax FE normally -_- the reason why he's dominated PvT so hard lately was because of that build he was using. Ofc, Stork should've been wiser to slam down more gates after losing his shuttle, since that's the crux of his play in PvT early-midgame to shut down any aggression.

It fuckin annoys me that you are trying to belittle Fantasy's achievements like this. If it were any other Terran that wasn't Flash, Stork would've probably won this series handily. Fantasy did perfect timing attacks and did some of the most beautiful harass in game 3 that would've torn apart anyone that hadn't practiced for that scenario before.

On January 30 2011 10:27 tedster wrote:


Yeah, no. Standard play (as you describe it) does not = horrible builds. Stork's 90% win ratio against terrans in the last 4 months or so used those "horrible, standard" builds, and if you don't think they had anything to do with all his winning... well, you're clearly not rational and just bitching because you don't like the outcome of the series.

Fantasy murdered Stork's "unbeatable PvT" with Stork playing the builds he was most comfortable with. Was it smart for Stork to play his own standard openings against a clever player like Fantasy? Maybe not, in retrospect, but prior to this game everyone predicted he would win using openings exactly like he used.

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On January 30 2011 11:00 StorkHwaiting wrote:


Fantasy's achievements? I'm glad you're fuckin annoyed, because trying to claim Fantasy achieved anything other than showing up is a joke.

Game 1 Fanta gave away his first tank, let Stork get 4 bases up unopposed, got raped by storms and was down 35 supply until Stork went carriers. Unfortunately, Stork was retarded enough to go carriers while seeing the entire time that Fanta was going the old Flash style quick mech upgrades into mass goli. You call that a perfect timing attack? Good play? And even while being way ahead after taking down Stork's nat and third, Fantasy gave up a 40 supply lead because he couldn't control his army well enough to deal with Stork's DT harassment. In essence, he played a far, FAR from perfect game. It's just that Stork played like a moron.

The second game, Stork gave away his shuttle again, and then never got his third up due to closer spawn positions and vulture aggression. So he sat there like an idiot while Fanta slow pushed because he depends on reaver shuttle for defense and he had no shuttle. Again, what did Fanta do that was so great? Lay mines? Prevent the third? By the time Stork even attempted to break the contain, Fanta had 4 turrets, a bunker, 12 tanks, and a CC at Stork's nat. This is amazing play?

It's pretty easy to decide on a timing attack when you kill his reaver harass without losing anything, and then you see him warping in his third, and you just played against this same exact build last game. But, apparently, attacking someone who's trying to quick take their third after a failed reaver tech is amazing star sense. And it takes perfect execution to push against a Toss player that doesn't even attempt to break the tank line.

Game 3 stork acted like he'd never seen a dropship before. He built his obs and scouting pylons in range of tanks OUTSIDE his base. And he had ages to realize that fanta was using a drop ship because Fanta continually showed it while shooting at him over the wall with tanks. Stork's response was to ...drop zealots on vultures. I don't think it could be any more obvious that Stork didn't prepare much for this series.

If you can refrain from just using superlatives and gushing over Fanta, maybe you can point out what he did do that's so amazing and breathtaking. That might convince me more than telling me how upset you are.

On January 30 2011 11:00 StorkHwaiting wrote:


Fantasy's achievements? I'm glad you're fuckin annoyed, because trying to claim Fantasy achieved anything other than showing up is a joke.

Game 1 Fanta gave away his first tank, let Stork get 4 bases up unopposed, got raped by storms and was down 35 supply until Stork went carriers. Unfortunately, Stork was retarded enough to go carriers while seeing the entire time that Fanta was going the old Flash style quick mech upgrades into mass goli. You call that a perfect timing attack? Good play? And even while being way ahead after taking down Stork's nat and third, Fantasy gave up a 40 supply lead because he couldn't control his army well enough to deal with Stork's DT harassment. In essence, he played a far, FAR from perfect game. It's just that Stork played like a moron.

The second game, Stork gave away his shuttle again, and then never got his third up due to closer spawn positions and vulture aggression. So he sat there like an idiot while Fanta slow pushed because he depends on reaver shuttle for defense and he had no shuttle. Again, what did Fanta do that was so great? Lay mines? Prevent the third? By the time Stork even attempted to break the contain, Fanta had 4 turrets, a bunker, 12 tanks, and a CC at Stork's nat. This is amazing play?

It's pretty easy to decide on a timing attack when you kill his reaver harass without losing anything, and then you see him warping in his third, and you just played against this same exact build last game. But, apparently, attacking someone who's trying to quick take their third after a failed reaver tech is amazing star sense. And it takes perfect execution to push against a Toss player that doesn't even attempt to break the tank line.

Game 3 stork acted like he'd never seen a dropship before. He built his obs and scouting pylons in range of tanks OUTSIDE his base. And he had ages to realize that fanta was using a drop ship because Fanta continually showed it while shooting at him over the wall with tanks. Stork's response was to ...drop zealots on vultures. I don't think it could be any more obvious that Stork didn't prepare much for this series.

If you can refrain from just using superlatives and gushing over Fanta, maybe you can point out what he did do that's so amazing and breathtaking. That might convince me more than telling me how upset you are.