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powerdawg96
United States129 Posts
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disciple
9071 Posts
On January 30 2011 04:33 Release wrote: I watched the first two sets early in the morning (last night), and Fantasy destroyed him. I was hoping for Stork to pull a GGplay, but it didnt happen. stork is a surrender monkey, every time he has to show some mental durability he gets tunnel vision and completely falls apart or forgets most basic stuff, like to upgrade goon range. The only reason he won that previous match vs fantasy was because in game five he got an opening by stealing fantasy's gas, after that he played like a robot and won | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
I take partial blame however, as I couldn't make it through all the pregame at 5am after a long day. Sorry to let you down Stork  | ||
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HaruHaru
United States988 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/S6Ext.jpg) Does anyone have this part of the OSL in video format? lol Want to show friends | ||
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tedster
984 Posts
A.) Stork did not actually play poorly at all. He made almost no real mistakes and micro'd extremely well, had great storms, etc. Fantasy, on the other hand, read him like a fucking book and outplayed him straight up at every segment of the game. B.) Games 2 and 3 especially featured Stork losing without actually making a clear mistake at all. The preemptive wraith => shuttle snipe was just an amazing read from Fanta coupled with a sick followup that he had planned from the start (and would be strong against virtually any opening from Stork) and in game 3 Fantasy performed probably the sickest terrain-based harass I have ever seen in a pro match. Stork was manhandled and he didn't even play poorly (despite the 0-3 record). C.) That was the most dominating series I have seen in an OSL since July vs. Best. Even with the g1 tank snipe Fantasy was always completely on top of Stork and essentially threw him around like a ragdoll for the rest of the series. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On January 30 2011 05:19 tedster wrote: Couple things: A.) Stork did not actually play poorly at all. He made almost no real mistakes and micro'd extremely well, had great storms, etc. Fantasy, on the other hand, read him like a fucking book and outplayed him straight up at every segment of the game. B.) Games 2 and 3 especially featured Stork losing without actually making a clear mistake at all. The preemptive wraith => shuttle snipe was just an amazing read from Fanta coupled with a sick followup that he had planned from the start (and would be strong against virtually any opening from Stork) and in game 3 Fantasy performed probably the sickest terrain-based harass I have ever seen in a pro match. Stork was manhandled and he didn't even play poorly (despite the 0-3 record). C.) That was the most dominating series I have seen in an OSL since July vs. Best. Even with the g1 tank snipe Fantasy was always completely on top of Stork and essentially threw him around like a ragdoll for the rest of the series. What? You mean expect for the fact he picked absolutely horrible builds that played directly into Fantasy's hand and insisted on going carriers even though he already saw goli range with +atk upgrades spinning at armory when he came in with his first reaver?? Micro's not everything buddy. In fact, it's only a very tiny part of the game. If you don't understand how horribly Stork played from a bo5 perspective, then you should reanalyze the way you think about SC. The wraith wasn't a fantastic read. It was an easy guess because Stork apparently thinks he can go standard play every game and win. Fantasy did blind counter builds both games. He didn't read anything. Nor was it a very sick followup. It was a basic slow tank/vulture push that Stork had zero chance of stopping after losing his shuttle. In summary, Fantasy did nothing except snipe two shuttles then laugh as Stork's normal greedy 3 base play got wrecked due to not having reaver/shuttle for defense. You're using a whole bunch of hyperbole to compliment play that was really not all that special. Stork lost this series much more than Fantasy won it. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
Can't wait for VODs. Did Fantasy revolutionize TvP like he was claiming he would? | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 30 2011 05:43 overt wrote: Disappointed for Stork but really excited that Fantasy was able to pull it off. I just hope that Stork can keep his composure and win the MSL, if he plays Jaedong it's going to be a much tougher final and it seems like he sort of choked in these finals. Can't wait for VODs. Did Fantasy revolutionize TvP like he was claiming he would? Stork is already out of MSL. =/ And no he didn't. | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
In game 3, he was so far behind after the initial harass and his delayed 3rd and yet all he did with his army was just aimlessly wander the map chasing the dropship and vultures, killing mines, making a half-hearted attack at Fantasy 3rd with like 5 dragoons. There was no way he could just win by playing a normal macro game after that initial setback, and again, instead of doing something to try and get back into the game, he just chose to die a slow death. Apart from his crappy decision making, his game sense was just really poor in general. He really should've expected some kind of dropship play in game 3 and having absolutely no defense in his main against a drop (on a map where drops are really popular) was really inexcusable. Ask yourself, if that was Flash, would he be caught off-guard like that? | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On January 30 2011 05:46 Holgerius wrote: Stork is already out of MSL. =/ And no he didn't. Damn, that's what I get for assuming Stork could go all the way to finals without a challenge in MSL. Kind of mad that he had to play Bisu ro16 now. Guess that's what I get for not watching Brood War for the past week. | ||
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theramstoss
Canada242 Posts
On January 30 2011 05:43 overt wrote: Disappointed for Stork but really excited that Fantasy was able to pull it off. I just hope that Stork can keep his composure and win the MSL, if he plays Jaedong it's going to be a much tougher final and it seems like he sort of choked in these finals. Can't wait for VODs. Did Fantasy revolutionize TvP like he was claiming he would? Stork is already out of the MSL bro | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On January 30 2011 05:43 overt wrote: Disappointed for Stork but really excited that Fantasy was able to pull it off. I just hope that Stork can keep his composure and win the MSL, if he plays Jaedong it's going to be a much tougher final and it seems like he sort of choked in these finals. Can't wait for VODs. Did Fantasy revolutionize TvP like he was claiming he would? Nah, he just prepared some good builds for an important occasion that worked perfectly against Stork's predictable play. | ||
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theramstoss
Canada242 Posts
On January 30 2011 02:28 Ryo wrote: Khan/Stork just way too laid back. If you want to win gold, you have to be more aggressive. SKT coaches are better than Khan coaches in this respect. When Ssak had to play Flash in MSL, who did Oov get to help him practice? Light. Stork should have contacted Flash right after he qualified for the OSL finals. And maybe even block Jaehoon from practicing with Fantasy. Why jaehoon? Doesn't fantasy have bisu? | ||
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On January 30 2011 06:00 theramstoss wrote: Why jaehoon? Doesn't fantasy have bisu? Jaehoon beat Fantasy straight up in an ace game recently. He's the up and coming new PvT bonjwa. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2349 Posts
On January 30 2011 05:47 DarkMatter_ wrote: In game 3, he was so far behind after the initial harass and his delayed 3rd and yet all he did with his army was just aimlessly wander the map chasing the dropship and vultures, killing mines, making a half-hearted attack at Fantasy 3rd with like 5 dragoons. There was no way he could just win by playing a normal macro game after that initial setback, and again, instead of doing something to try and get back into the game, he just chose to die a slow death. the only answer in this situation was trying to straigh attack towards fantasy main base, and that would end by suicide all army in 90% of cases. No transition was possible from there, as fantasy's harras was striking his eco and scouting main base to see any possible threats. In short- initial succesfull harras was close to game ender. When Stork made a poor work with defending it, it was instantly over. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 30 2011 06:17 blade55555 wrote: Ah nothing better then waking up seeing Stork get 3-0'd lolol thank you god. Grats Fantasy love reading the complaints about how bad stork played ^^. You've got a terrible attitude. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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