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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/disciple//PLbanner/main2_copy.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/disciple//PLbanner/mid2_copy.jpg) Set 1: Bloody Ridge Set 2: Aztec Set 3: Fortress Set 4: Icarus Set 5: Benzene Set 6: Grand Line SE Set 7: Empire of the Sun ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/disciple/PLPO/POlin_copy.jpg) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/disciple/PLPO/POres_copy.jpg) + Show Spoiler + Set 1:  Brave <Bloody Ridge>  PrincessSet 2: JangBi Aztec Jaedong Set 3:  Sharp <Fortress> HiyASet 4: Stork <Icarus> KillerSet 5: Reality <Benzene> BackHoSet 6: great <Grand Line SE> dolphin![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/Team_Icons/SamsungKHAN.png){kind=icon} Samsung KHAN 4-2 ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/Team_Icons/HwaseungOZ.png){kind=icon} Hwaseung OZ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/disciple/PLPO/POrec_copy.jpg) + Show Spoiler + How to Watch: Xsebt, champion of the masses | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/YIw19.png) Unplayed games will be given generic description + Show Spoiler [Set 1] + Short and close. Had a fun micro battle, but not high enough level overall to get a yes. I voted meh. + Show Spoiler [Set 2] + High level game, medum-long length. I liked it a lot. Recomended, but not highly recomended because it was lacking in the spectacular moment department. Still good. + Show Spoiler [Set 3] + Long, typical game considering the matchup, but on the worse end. Gets a strong No. Worth saying that there was a ceremony. Not a good one, but it happened. + Show Spoiler [Set 4] + medium length domination. No + Show Spoiler [Set 5] + Was a good game on its own, but the hilarity factor makes it great. I'm gona say its GotN, but might change later + Show Spoiler [Set 6] + wut, um no? + Show Spoiler [Ace] + underwhelming considering the players, not that good. Medum lenght ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/u6bVk.png) Poll: who do you want to win? Jaedong's team (17) Samsung Khan (14) 31 total votes Your vote: who do you want to win? Poll: who will win? Samsung Khan (12) Jaedong's team (4) I think the first tie ever will happen (4) 20 total votes Your vote: who will win? (Vote): Samsung Khan | ||
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structuralinertia
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fofa2000
Canada548 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
Thx for Op, looks nice (espc. Proleague - Oz vs Khan) | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
Teams shaking hands, so manner. Stork most manner. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
On December 18 2010 12:56 Xiphos wrote: YES!!!! NOW we are talking, Stork > Jaedong ace time! YEWS YES YES YES YES YAESY ES | ||
mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
On December 18 2010 12:55 hacklebeast wrote: reserverd for mustaju style hype Aww. Disciple did it first and better. But thanks, that was sweet. :3 | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
vs Khan Zerg: 9W 17L ... GO JUNI AND CHAVI | ||
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Vuk_91
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DarkMatter_
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Khan uses Brave! Go BRAVE!! | ||
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Xiphos
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
...I just merely make the threads for him? | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:01 Xiphos wrote: alone vs Brave! Go Mel Gibson! lol | ||
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Yxes2211
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fofa2000
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vectorix108
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Zona
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Yes we KHAN! | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:04 Zona wrote: Can Samsung do it? Yes we KHAN! That was so lame. I do concur though. ^__^ | ||
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Zona
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Zona
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prototype.
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brave does the usual forge fast expand | ||
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Xiphos
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Zona
40426 Posts
and turns into a hatch! | ||
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prototype.
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Zona
40426 Posts
greedy tosses are hardly ever punished nowadays, rush distance too long? 6 lings out 4 head towards the nat, 2 clear their own nat for an expo Gateway goes up in front of the finished cannon | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
brave's gas is up and running den already at princess's 3rd | ||
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fofa2000
Canada548 Posts
hydren den going up. | ||
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prototype.
Canada4200 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:08 Zona wrote: Nexus before cannon... greedy tosses are hardly ever punished nowadays, rush distance too long? 6 lings out 4 head towards the nat, 2 clear their own nat for an expo Gateway goes up in front of the finished cannon I'm pretty sure nexus before cannon is normal. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
6 lings trying to end the scouting probe a 3 hatch hydraling bust? | ||
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mierin
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Katsuge
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prototype.
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QuakerOats
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
oh no! Zealot is stopped by lings! | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:09 prototype. wrote: I'm pretty sure nexus before cannon is normal. it's "normal" (vs overpool) because of the maps... lingspeed done - 8 lings surround a wandering zealot and send his spirit away citadel and stargate up, 2 more gates, 2 more cannons being added lots of hydra appearing | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
BRAVE FASTER FASTER CANNONS GO O FUCK | ||
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fofa2000
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flamewheel
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Zona
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probes pulled but are mere popcorn to the hydra... another cannon finishes while probe/zealot holds the gap... | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
BRAVE U CAN HOLD THIS JANUARY DISAPPROVES OF STUPID HYDRAS | ||
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fofa2000
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Katsuge
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
Will it be enough? At least the game goes a little longer. | ||
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Vuk_91
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Xiphos
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Zona
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brave holds for now, adding another cannon still has a decent number of probes - but his main is sparsely saturated another OL kill hydraling accumulating outside the nat still princess definitely all-in, low drone count | ||
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OpticalShot
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prototype.
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stopped corsair production | ||
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Katsuge
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Zona
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sair netting a 3rd kill, 2 more cannons being added (to 3 already up) hydra hitting the forge | ||
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prototype.
Canada4200 Posts
gateway goes down forge being spat at | ||
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hacklebeast
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fofa2000
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Flushot
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Vuk_91
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Templar archive is almost ready WTF WHY ARE YOU COMING OUT BRAVE WTF BRAVE BACK UP DEFEND AND U WIN | ||
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Zona
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speed zealots move out against hydraling - I don't think that was a good idea they back off Sair netting its 5th OL kill... | ||
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mierin
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flamewheel
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Musoeun
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fofa2000
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prototype.
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brave pulls back, rebuilds forge corsair with 5 ovie kills | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
come on ht come on COME ON HT FASTURRRRR | ||
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Flushot
United States218 Posts
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:14 Vuk_91 wrote: He needs templar or reaver FAST ! He wont hold with zealots only What about with zealots plus cannons? (he's getting temps, though) | ||
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prototype.
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princess still massing up an army | ||
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Zona
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6 cannons there, 2 more being added even one templar Princess needs to switch things up... Sair still hunting for more prey | ||
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mierin
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fofa2000
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flamewheel
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Elyvilon
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Zona
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now a storm on a lot of hydra princess blowing out his cheeks yeah he's screwed hydra move in again and die...princess concedes | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
STORM IS READY YES BRAVE YES GG YES KHAN YES WE KHAN | ||
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ohN
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
GGG princess completely lost his timing - - | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
Nexus to back the hydras off the cannons was genius. | ||
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SkelA
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Adr4melecH
Thailand667 Posts
Sorry but i couldn't resist + Show Spoiler + FOREVER ALONE | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
GG. | ||
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Holgerius
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mierin
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
Poll: Do you recomend Set 1? yes (11) no (9) meh (4) 24 total votes Your vote: Do you recomend Set 1? | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
A nexus in your face for the lameness of hydra all-ins. | ||
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Release
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SubtleArt
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Xiphos
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OpticalShot
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prototype.
Canada4200 Posts
you don't try to break 10 cannons and a bunch of speed zealots... you just don't | ||
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Canada1774 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
Those speedlings really didn't do shit. If he was gonna all-in, he should've pumped pure hydra | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:17 Xiphos wrote: GG, omg, I haven't seen a Protoss defend against Hydraling burst in a LONG time! If Princess had left like 3 hydras at home to defend his OLs, he would have had like 20 more hydras in the long run because he could have actually built units. 6 OLs = 48 supply he didn't have. His economy was bad, but it wasn't bad enough to justify the almost no units he had. | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:18 prototype. wrote: ahh princess is so dumb you don't try to break 10 cannons and a bunch of speed zealots... you just don't Plus High Templars. | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
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vishrut
United States567 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:19 QuakerOats wrote: Wtf, Brave didn't scout that at all, and yet the bust still failed pretty badly. What was with all the lings, should have stuck to pure hydra. he scouted with corsair he saw no lair so he just defended | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:19 Musoeun wrote: If Princess had left like 3 hydras at home to defend his OLs, he would have had like 20 more hydras in the long run because he could have actually built units. 6 OLs = 48 supply he didn't have. His economy was bad, but it wasn't bad enough to justify the almost no units he had. Ah, thanks for the clarification! | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:21 vishrut wrote: he scouted with corsair he saw no lair so he just defended But at that point it's too late to really do anything about it, the attack comes too early for cannons to finish even if you start them as soon as your corsair reaches their base. That was the ideal situation for Princess and he still messed it up. | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
fuck jangbi up | ||
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On_Slaught
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fofa2000
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Vuk_91
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Crunchums
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
He be smilin like the last time. He shall stormu like last time!! | ||
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cha0
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maximuspita
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
Let's go Jangbi, show the Tyrant what it's like to face the Almighty! ...okay, in all seriousness you lost that title when you lost to Lux that one MSL. But a man can dream. | ||
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fofa2000
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Release
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Elefanto
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Kanil
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
only 2 days after MSL... Jangbi either proxy 2 gating or getting smashed | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
 Pick on someone your own size, JD! | ||
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
I love you Jangbi, but the Tyrant is the leader of my unborn army to take over the world, I can never cheer against him | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
I like Dong! Hmm though Jangbi ;; | ||
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United States3110 Posts
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Flushot
United States218 Posts
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hacklebeast
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Xiphos
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Release
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:29 fofa2000 wrote: Jaedong you have to WIN. Im fine with that but OZ to lose next 3 games | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:31 Flushot wrote: This is like an upgraded version of the last match Well, from the OZ Zerg side, anyway. I'm thinking Brave may be better than Jangbi right now. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
2nd cannon finishes and he pulls his probes away from the gap | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:31 hacklebeast wrote: NOOOOOOOO JANGBI!!!!! Its like seeing a kitten in the middle of the freeway with a semi berring down on it. You want to save the kitty, but there is nothing you can do Fuck the kitten reference gets me. | ||
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Zona
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JD still adding a few more slowlings speed is coming soon, no doubt - ahh speed finishes 6 lings still chasing the scouting probe Jangbi starts a core at his nat and his probe actually gets some distance away from JD's nat before being finished off | ||
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Zona
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lair finishes, spire starts Jangbi kind of looks like he's frowning citadel in the main | ||
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Zona
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On December 18 2010 13:35 Vuk_91 wrote: At least this seems like a 3 hatch spire,so I guess there will be no hydra bust well then 2 more hatcheries with den, then come the hydra in the typical 3 hatch spire -> 5 hatch hydra but JD doesn't often play in a typical way JD adding 3 more hatches - 1 each at nat and 3rd, one to take his 4th base at 12 4 slowlots moving out, speed undoubtedly coming soon | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
JANGBANG HESITATING FUCK JUST PUSH THE FUCK AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
GET SOME FUCKIONG SELF CONFIDENCE THAT BASE WAS EMPTY | ||
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Zona
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now the sunken finishes and a lot of speedlings are out... | ||
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Zona
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4th-6th gates finish for Jangbi I still don't see an archives... | ||
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Lucumo
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On December 18 2010 13:37 Fenrax wrote: JANGBI GET SOME FUCKIONG SELF CONFIDENCE THAT BASE WAS EMPTY 4 Zerglings were there+an almost finished sunken | ||
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Zona
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core starts to spin forge still spinning despite no archives? a decent sair mass though queen's nest coming already jangbi heading out with quite a few speedlots but the sairs staying home? only now moving out +1 ground weapons done - mass zealot run into the sunkens at JD"s 3rd, take a lot of hits, then back off... | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
jangbi had the chance to punish JDs greed and was scared, now JD will just roll him with his eco | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Jaedong going hive with minimal army. | ||
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Zona
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but lots of scourge now chasing the retreating sairs - zealots trying to move into JD's nat but there's 4 sunkens and drones blocking the way lots of speedlings heading from the northern bases Jangbi's attack defeated no problem Jangbi in really bad shape now but the scourge only net like one sair kill at Jangbi's main? first templar appear hive done | ||
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Crunchums
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
At least the Jang can storm. | ||
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fofa2000
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:41 Doraemon wrote: jangbi just cancelled his third :p Nice elevator by jangbi | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
lings scout jangbi's expo attempt and force a cancel on the nexus ferry drop on jaedon'gs 4th but 2 sunkens and a spore just finish | ||
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Zona
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JD with a bunch of lings holding 10, but Jangbi is taking his 3rd at inner 9 defiler mound on its way OL's still slow lings discover jangbi's warping 3rd - and cause it to abort zealot/archon elevated into JD's 3rd - 2 fresh sunkens there - drones fighting - now pull away! | ||
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flamewheel
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Doraemon
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could have won him the game there | ||
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Zona
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Jangbi taking a 3rd at inner 9 again lurkerling attacks, for very little gain lots of scourge run into sairs and net almost no kills core spinning again | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:42 Doraemon wrote: where were the dts == could have won him the game there he dropped 1, it probably got killed by the sunkens | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
Too close to Hive if Jaedong techs: Jangbi needs to get reavers ASAP, though he may need another gas first. Wastes another drop instead. | ||
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Zona
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his attack doesn't succeed sunken survives in the red consume done! | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:43 Holgerius wrote: It's dumb how Z can lose that many overlords and still be fine. Imagine if those were depots. -__- only because jaedong is so ridiculously far ahead lol | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
also, dark swarm lots and lots of dark swarm | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Jangbi lost most of his corsairs now. Jaedong flocking in with his macromode. | ||
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Zona
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swarms over the remaining lurkers though scourge auto-ai so stupid - a bunch of them die, netting only one sair kill jangbi adds some goons only to have them be totally ineffective against the 5 swarms by his 3rd he lets his sairs take a lot of hydra hits haha swarms protecting jangbi's units from hydra | ||
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OpticalShot
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Jangbi now has 0 corsairs. | ||
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Zona
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jangbi taking a 4th at 10 a decent plague on a few zealots and jangbi loses his last sair? a line of cracklings run into janbgi's new 4th - only 2 cannons there, probes run but jangbi storming a lot of shit attacking his 3rd | ||
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Zona
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jangbi concedes | ||
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OpticalShot
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Poor Jangbi =( Jaedong's too good. | ||
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Holgerius
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fofa2000
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
JvP!!! that macro was crazy | ||
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okum
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ohN
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Zona
40426 Posts
wonder if there's anyone else who can step up for Oz? | ||
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Adr4melecH
Thailand667 Posts
Feel sad for him but glad JD won anyways. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
Poll: Do you recomend Set 2? yes (31) meh (6) no (0) 37 total votes Your vote: Do you recomend Set 2? That was a lot closer than I thought it would be | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:47 Zona wrote: JD stone faced as he high fives the Oz bench wonder if there's anyone else who can step up for Oz? Lol we Khan still have Stork, Great and TurN left! | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
even thoguh jangbis sairs did quite a bit of damage early on..fast hive too good O_O | ||
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United States218 Posts
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vishrut
United States567 Posts
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SaikOuLighT
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
I fully expect OZ to lose the next 2 sets. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:48 Xiphos wrote: Lol we Khan still have Stork, Great and TurN left! Though I'm way scared we run into one of those Lomo > Stork, HiyA > great, Killer > TurN nights and I go fffffuuuuuuuuuu. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:48 alffla wrote: lol that was too good from jd! even thoguh jangbis sairs did quite a bit of damage early on..fast hive too good O_O Yep, they delayed Jangbi's demise quite a bit. | ||
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United States10341 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
is this new zvp trend? | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:50 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Jangbi played like crap. Game reflects his never-ending slump; not so much Jaedong's skillls Let's be fair here: this map sucks for standard sair-HT PvZ. I'm not sure if the early 3rd-break with those zeals would have accomplished anything; I'm sure throwing the zeals away against the nat didn't help. But I really don't see how you can punish a greedy Zerg with a good sim-city on this map with standard play. | ||
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fofa2000
Canada548 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:52 fofa2000 wrote: Something weird happened to the result in the OP. thanks | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:56 Musoeun wrote: Bogus: strategy good; multitask weak. Wrong thread? | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:49 SubtleArt wrote: Jaedong responded to Jangbi's strat so beautifully, GG More like... JangBi had one 5-second timing window in the early game and then it was just a formality. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Fail. Who is Sharp? | ||
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fofa2000
Canada548 Posts
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Gryffes
United Kingdom763 Posts
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
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douggrz
Canada8 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:01 Kanil wrote: Sharp 'n' Karp. Should end well. lol | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
Edit: Actually, he has 3. | ||
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Hiya's 3rd has so few scvs... 3 dropships moving out for him | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:10 mustaju wrote: Wrong thread. We should start a club. :D | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
4 tank/4 goli drop on sharp's nat - sharp taking some damage sharp drpos 2 vultures on hiya's 3rd - hugs the one sieged tank and nets a few scv kills hiya counterdrops and ends that | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:04 douggrz wrote: what colour is hiya? Red | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/7KgI8.png) What a face. Man I caught it a second too late but this is still okay. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
sharp in decent shape, actually moving with a bunch of tanks/goliaths outside hiya's nat hiya moving out with dropships again though or not, he pulls them back | ||
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Cheeseburgered
United States716 Posts
poor guy's confidence is already down the drain | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
hrm, sharp pretty passive considering the state of his ground forces Hiya moves out with a bunch of ground forces to gain more ground nice finally - sharp dropping hiya's fresh new 4th | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
he clears out the drop on 7.5 and loads up his dropships again sharp loading up his 5 dropships he's sort of got control of the center - why doesn't he leapfrog towards hiya's nat? hiya now moving his forces towards the center after sharp pulls away for no reaspon? Sharp taking a 5th at 3, hiya has an scv there | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
sharp and hiya maneuvering their armies at the SW of the center of the map... sharp could have had a contain but now it's come to this - hiya dropship/ground forces gain a bit of ground towards the south but sharp's goliaths come into play and stop things 2 tank lines staring across from each other now | ||
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United States4324 Posts
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bearbuddy
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Vuk_91
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Zona
40426 Posts
Hiya taking a 5th at inner 11.5 | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:17 Vuk_91 wrote: Can anyone who really knows TvT tell us who is in lead right now? Sharp is a base ahead and an upgrade ahead. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
still he's letting his lead erode | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
Sharp...ie... lol I dunno. Someone else come up with a witty catchphrase/name pun for him. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
sharp doesn't seem to know how to position his units tvt his units move towards inner 11.5 but hiya drops with a massive force to end them Hiya moving a lot of ground forces towards the east - sharp has a few tanks holding the area and drops to clear out Hiya's minipush still hiya with 4 goliaths stops the new CC building at 3.5 | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Hiya attacking Sharp's 3o'clock. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
drop/ground attack towards hiya's sieged tanks at the SW of the center wins the fight by virtue of having more units the only thing keeping sharp in the game is his one base advantage - but 4 goliaths about to move in to kill scvs at 2.5! sharp sieges a few tanks on the other side of hiya's main | ||
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fofa2000
Canada548 Posts
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flamewheel
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Zona
40426 Posts
is hiya expanding to 11.5? yes he is, that would be his 6th both players with poor scv saturation at a lot of their bases sharp with tanks/goliaths attacking inner 11.5 a strong attack, kills the cc | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
but hiya has tanks shelling inner 5.5 - sharp decides to a-move counter towards hiya's nat - hiya doesn't have enough defense! he sieges a few tanks to defend but sharp brings in 5 dropships hiya's mouth wider than usual! | ||
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Canada548 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
but somehow hiya's drop prevails and he regains control of his factories goliaths attacking hiya's new CC at 11.5 while goliaths also finish sharp's CC at 2.5 what a bizarre game | ||
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Singapore7730 Posts
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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Ghostpvp
United States462 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
And he failed. HiyA should win now. EDIT: Or not, apparently I missed the fact that Sharp still has a decent army floating around. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
sharp going to be in deep trouble hiya only drops one goliath?? scvs move to surround goliath gets 2 kills then dies... | ||
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:24 Zona wrote: hiya moving 6 dropships or so towards 4.5 hiya only drops one goliath?? Well it worked once. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
sharp adding a CC at 12.5? patrolling the middle of the map with ground forces and dropships his army seems to be a lot larger wait, he's distance-mining from inner 5.5? why? | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
sharp mining from 12.5 from BEHIND the mineral line hiya moving out a bunch of ground forces - sharp notices but doesn't siege first! well he does now but hiya has enough time to back off Hiya floating a CC towards 11.5 this is truly a bizarre game both players drop units SE of the center to support their ground armies sharp doesn't drop beside hiya's army while hiya drops right on sharps' army I think hiya got the better of it sharp lifts his CC at 4.5? | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Not very sharp play. =/ | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
hiya scans sharp moving upwards with his army strange game sharp floats his 4.5 CC to 3.5.. so damn weird one of hiya's vults see the CC land at 3.5 - nets 3 scv kills | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Hiya doesn't look so well. | ||
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United States890 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
hiya making a resigned face... the one scv still distance mining the gas from 11.5 hiya's 4 vultures finally realize there's a base at 12.5 behind and net some scv kills | ||
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6850 Posts
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United States462 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
the bases and scv saturation has been strange all game and finally sharp realizes hiya has a base at 1.5 when his CC floats there drops an army there hiya with only a few minerals left under his control | ||
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Australia14949 Posts
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BobbYt3hBobbY
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fofa2000
Canada548 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Sharp is sweating like Jaehoon, k may not as hard as Jaehoon but Sharp really giving it his best. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
HiyA at 1/2 base + one with no SCVs. | ||
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United States1587 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Sharp is in much better shape, especially with quasi-map control one of hiya's dropships heading towards 3.5 - drops vultures behind the mineral line sharp loses more of his army midmap for little gain one wraith out for hiya finally sharp drops the cc that has been idle at 11.5 hiya with some delay lifts it hiya's wraith nets one dropship kill | ||
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bUbUsHeD
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Not that Hiya is that great, but in general. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
his army's too small otherwise sharp would have been in trouble | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
surrounds a tank with mines hiya's totally mined out... | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
The classical endgame combination of TvT. | ||
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Canada6330 Posts
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Z3kk
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Singapore2697 Posts
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
hiya drops 1 tank 2 vultures at 1.5 - picks up as 5 counterdropships arrive, 3 wraiths kill his dropship sharp - finish this already... | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
hiya moving towardss 5.5 - where the heck is sharp's army? sharp going to lose the few minerals at that base sharp still mining from 3.5 and 1.5 though | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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Brazil7469 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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moochu
Australia374 Posts
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Canada6263 Posts
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Singapore2697 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:33 Musoeun wrote: This is such a sweet map. If only it were at all balanced for the non-mirrors. Why only non-mirrors? Positional advantage works for mirrors as well. | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
ahh hiya loses a few of his rare units to a mine hiya about to lose his CC at inner 11.5 hiya sieging up a small force outside 3.5 hiya takes out the floating ebay - now he can move closer to 3.5 hiya distance mining gas, even 1 goliath vs 3 wraiths outside 3.5 the wraith wins with 1 survivor sharp finally wakes up and moves his army together to take out hiya's forces near 3.5 and hiya concedes | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Hiya, you let JD down again. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Sharp doesn't look that sharp, but he was good enough to win that. Whew. | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
drumfish I mean | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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nozaro33
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
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ohN
United States1075 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
Khan is up 2-1. | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
Poll: Do you recomend Set 3? no (13) meh (8) yes (5) 26 total votes Your vote: Do you recomend Set 3? | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:36 okum wrote: the living drum of proleague drumfish I mean He was beaten like a drum, that's for sure. | ||
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Canada1774 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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Adr4melecH
Thailand667 Posts
(( Also,wtf was that ceremony??? lol | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:36 Yxes2211 wrote: Jesus Christ Hiya BackHo hasn't played yet. HiyA, why so bad? You beat Jaedong, you can stop sucking now! :o is the face of victory, let's see it more often. | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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bUbUsHeD
China54 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Feel so bad for him. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
Jaedong desperately needs someone, anyone to step up. Feel really sad for him. A true one-man team. | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:40 Holgerius wrote: Man, JD even said in his last interview that he was focusing more on PL because that is so important to him, and still his teammates let him down like this. Feel so bad for him. now u know how oz fans feel. at least KT can still win sometimes. oz going down 1-4 is just plain business. | ||
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:40 Holgerius wrote: Man, JD even said in his last interview that he was focusing more on PL because that is so important to him, and still his teammates let him down like this. Feel so bad for him. ;___; No mercy today though because I'm a khan fan and I also voted khan in liquibet. | ||
Harem
United States11390 Posts
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy | ||
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United States4943 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:42 Confuse wrote: Don't worry guys... PerfectMan and Killer are gonna... oh who am i kidding... sHy would actually be a good speculative start. At least you'll see if he can provide some help. Hell, even start Win for the lulz. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:42 Confuse wrote: Don't worry guys... PerfectMan and Killer are gonna... oh who am i kidding... The best they can send right now is Anytime. The threat list for Khan atm is Anytime, Lomo and the other perfectman and killer. Stork can beat any of them, at anytime (lol pun intended) | ||
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Canada1774 Posts
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IAttackYou
United States330 Posts
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:45 DarkMatter_ wrote: Killer and Backho are Oz's best bets. Why do people keep bringing up that noob Perfectman instead of Backho? Backho hasn't been great this season but he's still much better than Perfectman (he beat Stork in R1). Stork was just tired... >:[ Oh wait, that's the fedaltard excuse  | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
: O | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:46 IAttackYou wrote: Jaedong or stork? F*** that i want to see some Daniel action ^_^ He's no longer in Korea. | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
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saikeraku
Canada2933 Posts
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:46 IAttackYou wrote: Jaedong or stork? F*** that i want to see some Daniel action ^_^ Daniel finished his trip in korea, sad to say. What a cool dude though....! | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
Stork smiling in booth. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:45 DarkMatter_ wrote: Killer and Backho are Oz's best bets. Why do people keep bringing up that noob Perfectman instead of Backho? Backho hasn't been great this season but he's still much better than Perfectman (he beat Stork in R1). Perfectman: 4-7 BackHo: 1-5 You were saying? OZ's top 5: Jaedong (duh, 16-4), Princess (5-4), Anytime (1-2)/Killer (6-8), Perfectman (4-7). This is why OZ sucks right now. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:43 Apex wrote: sHy would actually be a good speculative start. At least you'll see if he can provide some help. Hell, even start Win for the lulz. I've always felt Hwaseung Oz needs to Win.(It's probably Jaedong's second account. OzSucksBallsWithoutMe was too obvious, Win is more subtle.) | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:48 Musoeun wrote: Perfectman: 4-7 BackHo: 1-5 You were saying? OZ's top 5: Jaedong (duh, 16-4), Princess (5-4), Anytime (1-2)/Killer (6-8), Perfectman (4-7). This is why OZ sucks right now. Have you watched BW before this season? | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Stork this is yours. Ezpz lawl pwn him!! | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:49 Kanil wrote: I've always felt Hwaseung Oz needs to Win.(It's probably Jaedong's second account. OzSucksBallsWithoutMe was too obvious, Win is more subtle.) Win should have started over Killer. What is Oz thinking? Jaedong clearly had enough time to wear his disguise before getting on stage again. Maybe it's a clothing malfunction. | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:48 Musoeun wrote: Perfectman: 4-7 BackHo: 1-5 You were saying? OZ's top 5: Jaedong (duh, 16-4), Princess (5-4), Anytime (1-2)/Killer (6-8), Perfectman (4-7). This is why OZ sucks right now. what about piratezerg, mustachezerg, and ozsucksballswithoutme? | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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cha0
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Zona
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Zona
40426 Posts
stargate finishes for stork but idles for a short time? robo starts at the nat (was that a citadel in the main??) | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
archives starts in the main as well a gateway added at the nat dt drop maybe? | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:52 Crunchums wrote: Weren't they all caught match-fixing?what about piratezerg, mustachezerg, and ozsucksballswithoutme? | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
starting his simcities 2 sairs out killing ol's - 2 scourge appear and land on one of the sairs 2 dt's out | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
what is this? killer has no defense nor OL in his main though! | ||
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Zona
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and 2 dts 2 zealots waiting outside the 4th 2 dts net a bunch of kills at killer's main, destroy the spire as the drones run 2 dt 2 zealot drop at the 4th, killer runs with his drones | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:50 DarkMatter_ wrote: Have you watched BW before this season? Look, I'm just trying to say that *this season* BackHo's been terrible, while Perfectman has been merely bad, and occasionally even played well. Yah perfectman is fairly new, but BackHo hasn't even been passably good since he hurt his back @2 years ago. So I'm not sure what your argument was. I just brought up this season's records since I assumed you hadn't seen them; I get that BackHo used to be OZ's best P right after Anytime went to ACE, but with Anytime back and perfectman doing okay-ish, BackHo is (imo, and by record) probably Oz's 3rd best. And to answer your question: yes, I have been watching BW for quite a few years now. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
Stork dt drops going to do so much damage | ||
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Canada504 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Spire DOWN main hatchery ALMOST DOWN it is DOWN | ||
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Zona
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he's losing his 4th and his main a slot ol finds the 2 dts in the main but despite the ling surround the main hatch is destroyed and the dts run into the corner finally the shuttle is scourged | ||
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Canada126 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
stork elevators dts into main!! NO OVERLORDS! ALL BUT 3 DRONES DOWN, SPIRE GOING DOWN DROP IN 4TH TOO january looks smug. MAIN/4TH HATCHES GOING DOWNNNNNn lings barely there in time... oops, fail to save it! killer scourges shuttle! finally! stork's sair stack is scary | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
core spinning, stork adding his 5th gate lol at Killer... | ||
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Canada2000 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
but 4 zealots ready, and probes pulled killer still reinforcing with hydra stork adding cannons | ||
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Canada504 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Come on Stork, you can hold it like a DINOSAUR | ||
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United States3156 Posts
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
meanwhile dts wrecking shit | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
stork moving out with 5 sairs to kill ol's - activates his 2 zealot/2 dt hiding at 2.5 to move towards 3.5 once all ol's there killed - he works on hydra there | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
his new gateways pumping out zealots at a fast rate not many probes at his nat though | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
he runs by the storms! terrible terrible damage! gate+forge down, probes lost! obs down! sairs frantically sniping ovies! AHHHH DARK TEMPLAR IN KILLER'S 3RD ovie in to save the day! killer finally pulls back, but most of the probes in stork's nat are gone | ||
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
SONG BYUNG GOO SONG BYUNG GOO SONG BYUNG GOO Yessss he lives! ^^ | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
Too bad he doesn't have to go the bathroom. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:00 Musoeun wrote: In from that hydra bust we can conclude that Princess is terrible. Don't you mean Killer? :p | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
lots raping hydras and sairs raping OLs | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On December 18 2010 14:59 integral wrote: when in doubt, hydra bust. :| Not really, Storks strategy had that timing window for Killer. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Stork now flying corsairs around, ovies melting. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
shuttle sniped by hydra as they back away from a lot of speedlots corsairs flying over the hydra netting TONS of ol kills remaining zealots surrounded by hydra and finished off killer sending a drone to "expand" back to his former main dt out and forcing killer's remaining hydra back | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
stork streaming out with a lot of pure speedlot towards killer's 3rd - which has 6 hydra and 2 sunkens dt sent in first as there's no OL in sight... | ||
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Canada7507 Posts
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United States11144 Posts
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United States10328 Posts
spore for killer chases off sairs stork going very zealot heavy? going to break 3rd!! dt wreaking havoc at 3rd... stork goes for nat instead with his army! and killer gg's | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
lol, patetic | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
YES STORK YOU MA MAN | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Noxide
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STORKUUUU! | ||
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No, I don't, I meant Princess. Killer got two bases DT'ed and still kept his macro up well enough to come within about 10 sec/3-4 hydras of breaking Stork's nat. I know he didn't do it, but he was way closer to succeeding than Princess was. | ||
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Poll: Do you recomend Set 4? yes (21) no (2) meh (0) 23 total votes Your vote: Do you recomend Set 4? | ||
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Apex
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The Commander prevails. Khan is up 3-1. Time for Oz to bring out sHy or Win? ;p | ||
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Man stork is just so solid and awesome. ...no homo. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:02 ariK wrote: sigh... JaedongOz Inc again ^ killer should've made a spore at his 3rd, would've helped a lot. | ||
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QuakerOats
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How can progamers still make these basic mistakes? | ||
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He had me worried when killer tried the Hydra bust but he pulled through ^_^ | ||
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(Lomo next?) | ||
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Apex
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On December 18 2010 15:02 Musoeun wrote: No, I don't, I meant Princess. Killer got two bases DT'ed and still kept his macro up well enough to come within about 10 sec/3-4 hydras of breaking Stork's nat. I know he didn't do it, but he was way closer to succeeding than Princess was. Ah that makes sense. Didn't watch the 1st game. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
Oz is a very bad team... | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
and ZvP used to be killer best MU now i guess his best MU is ZvC (computer) god, i get annoyed at how many times he can fail | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:02 Musoeun wrote: No, I don't, I meant Princess. Killer got two bases DT'ed and still kept his macro up well enough to come within about 10 sec/3-4 hydras of breaking Stork's nat. I know he didn't do it, but he was way closer to succeeding than Princess was. Yes... falling just short of brilliance, thats Oz Oh well I'm a stork fan so im not complaining | ||
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Invictus
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jaedong must be feeling pretty pissed right now, hes so concerned for proleague but his team just continuously fails. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:06 MountainDewJunkie wrote: It was a nice build by Stork, I must say. When Stork plays well, it even makes me more frustrated about his KA S2 semifinal vs Jaedong. I know!!! one freaken cannon away from the final! | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
True story. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:07 dukethegold wrote: Oz was once a legit powerhouse, fielded with an all star roster, and a leading contender for the PL championship. True story. They still can be if its still BO5. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:07 dukethegold wrote: Oz was once a legit powerhouse, fielded with an all star roster, and a leading contender for the PL championship. True story. Not only that, they even won one. And came second at least once. | ||
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back when forgg and anytime were good... oh oz. | ||
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On December 18 2010 14:56 Musoeun wrote: Look, I'm just trying to say that *this season* BackHo's been terrible, while Perfectman has been merely bad, and occasionally even played well. Yah perfectman is fairly new, but BackHo hasn't even been passably good since he hurt his back @2 years ago. So I'm not sure what your argument was. I just brought up this season's records since I assumed you hadn't seen them; I get that BackHo used to be OZ's best P right after Anytime went to ACE, but with Anytime back and perfectman doing okay-ish, BackHo is (imo, and by record) probably Oz's 3rd best. And to answer your question: yes, I have been watching BW for quite a few years now. Backho hasn't been passably good since his back injury? What? Since his injury, he's beaten Stork (twice), great, Jangbi, Horang2, and Much. All respectable opponents. Meanwhile, what has Perfectman accomplished? Out of the four players that Perfectman beat in proleague this season, one of them is godawful (Saint) and the other one is completely inexperienced (Last). Backho may have lost most of his games but his opponents have all been pretty good (Snow, Frozen, Pure, Stork, Much, Ruby). | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:08 Musoeun wrote: Not only that, they even won one. And came second at least once. too bad hiya decided that he wanted to join the lion dance troupe | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:09 ]343[ wrote: back when forgg and anytime were good... oh oz. Or R5, last season... | ||
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they were hardly championship contenders back then (unless you mean 08-09?), though they didn't lose as much. see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66837 for comparison... | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:09 ]343[ wrote: back when forgg and anytime were good... oh oz. hey anytime is good. well I think TurN is gonna finish this off nice and easy now. | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
i hope he loses, but i can't count lomo failling out | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:13 Jackal03 wrote: lomo time On December 18 2010 15:13 Xiphos wrote: BackHo vs TurN? Alternate Reality. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:12 Doraemon wrote: dw oz. there's still 2 rounds of WL thats what I tell KT. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:14 XsebT wrote: Religion vs Science will be settled once and for all. HAHA! I like this! | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:09 DarkMatter_ wrote: Backho hasn't been passably good since his back injury? What? Since his injury, he's beaten Stork (twice), great, Jangbi, Horang2, and Much. All respectable opponents. Meanwhile, what has Perfectman accomplished? Out of the four players that Perfectman beat in proleague this season, one of them is godawful (Saint) and the other one is completely inexperienced (Last). Backho may have lost most of his games but his opponents have all been pretty good (Snow, Frozen, Pure, Stork, Much, Ruby). I have a feeling you're going fanboy on me here and won't listen, but look: Perfectman's got the better Proleague record. Okay, his opponents were a little easier; the record's still there. Perfectman made the MST and then made the MSL, going through by.hero's ZvP. Based on pure results, there's no argument that at this point perfectman is the better between them, and depending how Anytime looks may be OZ's best toss. Is this pathetic? Yes. Would a BackHo resurrection be really really cool? Yes. Is BackHo the better player now? No. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:14 XsebT wrote: Religion vs Science will be settled once and for all. Good one. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:12 ]343[ wrote: they were hardly championship contenders back then (unless you mean 08-09?), though they didn't lose as much. see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66837 for comparison... They were a "powerhouse" though and ranked 2 | ||
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Zona
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pretty fangirl not happy reality scouting towards 3.5 but sees nothing there heads past the center and doesn't see the gateway???? | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:14 XsebT wrote: Religion vs Science will be settled once and for all. remember last round when Stork lost to BackHo? that was the real Religion vs Science | ||
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Zona
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1 zealot/1 probe pick off a new marine from the rax! 2nd rax being added for reality | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:17 QuakerOats wrote: Reality scouts everywhere for cheese except the center of the map.  Why so bad? | ||
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Zona
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2 zealots now in reality's main scv building the new rax killed lomo/jaedong looking on with interest backho takes his nat! without even a core... scv finally finds the center gateway | ||
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Confuse
2238 Posts
At this rate religion is gonna win... lol | ||
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Zona
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stork smiling scv sees backho's nat reality now mining gas backho now trying to approach reality's fortress with 4 zealots backho adding a gas and gateway in his main you need a core! | ||
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Musoeun
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... Fast tech to carriers off one base. | ||
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Zona
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9 rines adding a factory finally a core from backho 10 rines and scvs vs 5 zealots at reality's nat? 6 zealots... reality takes his nat | ||
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]343[
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stork is ... hardly amused? lol probe is here... CANNONS PLOX? oh just a scout. probe killed. scvs pulled to ramp? cc starts, so many marines for reality... he's held it off with his 2rax. they lift. bunker in nat for reality. backho's nexus has been up for a while though. | ||
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backho getting range backho's hold-position zealots take some damage before backing off from the rines one vulture out - goes past the zealots towards backho's main... backho taking his 2nd gas, adds a pylon outside his nat but doesn't wall? | ||
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reality takes his 2nd gas | ||
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backho pulls probes before vult arrives LOL well not too bad, only lost like 1 (if any?) maynard by reality reality scouts for 3rd, finds none tank+rines push zealots back backho contains with goons/zealots | ||
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Zona
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vulture still lives on top of backho's high ground but can't reach the probes on the mineral line - back ho commmitting with 6 zealots/4 goons attacking reality's nat - reality repairing the bunker backho losing a lot of his forces wow...failure | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:16 Musoeun wrote: I have a feeling you're going fanboy on me here and won't listen, but look: Perfectman's got the better Proleague record. Okay, his opponents were a little easier; the record's still there. Perfectman made the MST and then made the MSL, going through by.hero's ZvP. Based on pure results, there's no argument that at this point perfectman is the better between them, and depending how Anytime looks may be OZ's best toss. Is this pathetic? Yes. Would a BackHo resurrection be really really cool? Yes. Is BackHo the better player now? No. Simply having a better record in less than 2 rounds of proleague (while completely failing to consider the opponents that each player faced, and the quality of the games themselves) is not enough to claim that one player is better than another. All it proves is that Perfectman has produced better results this season. | ||
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Jackal03
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why so bad?!?!? | ||
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Zona
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backho with only 3 goons left more reinforcing backho sending a probe to 10.5... | ||
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Zona
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backho has reavertech and obstech though, adding a 2nd gate to his main armory spinning for reality at his nat back indeed taking a 3rd at 10.5, vultures find it | ||
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dukethegold
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Backho is back! This is what Brood War is all about, folks! | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:23 Xiphos wrote: Idk who is winning. I'm not sure Reality is winning, but I know BackHo is losing. | ||
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]343[
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goon eats mine, trades for a vult. | ||
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Zona
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reaver out for him 3rd gate in his main, stargate starts... reality adding a turret to his main but right by his gas... 3rd CC starts for him at his nat shuttle flies over to reality's nat and gives reality ample time to respond | ||
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2nd stargate/fleet beacon starts | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:24 Musoeun wrote: I'm not sure Reality is winning, but I know BackHo is losing. lol | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:25 Vuk_91 wrote: What The Fuck? why did he load/unload that reaver? I dont get what this guy is doing Showing him the reaver so that he can defend against it? | ||
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dukethegold
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Dropping the reaver in front of the vultures just to warn Reality that a Reaver drop is coming. | ||
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Jackal03
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i wonder why... | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
backho loses a goon to mines his proxy gate still there... | ||
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]343[
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or is that 3 stargates? | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
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On December 18 2010 15:24 Musoeun wrote: I'm not sure Reality is winning, but I know BackHo is losing. Pretty much the best response. | ||
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Zona
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is he adding another stargate despite one idling? reality knows what's up? adding 2 more factories, to 6 finally all 3 stargates light up | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
a dropship out for him | ||
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backho adds citadel dropship loads up 4 vultures | ||
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there's 1 cannon at his 3rd though and 1 building at his "4th" 2 tank drop at 10.5 most probes run but 5 remain? 3 vultures working on the cannon slow zealots finish off the vultures dropship inexplicably heads SOUTH and runs into a lot of goons and explodes | ||
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cha0
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Apex
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Will Backho still save Oz despite his initial fails? | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
BackHo will lose this game for u | ||
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Zona
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he's adding quite a few goliaths but not enough? clash near the SW plateau - backho even drops his reaver, as if it could make an impact in such a large army confrontation slow shuttle gets picked off by ranged goliaths as it pulls back backho moving out with 4 or so carriers? taking a 5th at 11 | ||
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Apex
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~6 carriers out for Backho | ||
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Zona
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W. T. F. well now the carriers attack reality's army attacking towards 11.5 backho's ground army comes too but most dies to the tanks at the back backho has to back off... | ||
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reality pushing, hitting proxy gate finally 2/0 air upgrades, 6 carriers out already backho zeal/goon/1reaver trying to delay. shuttle sniped lol. both on 4 base. backho taking 5th, and the carriers move out! BACKHO ATTACKS ... he retreats rofl. | ||
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Apex
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Interceptors are melting | ||
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Zona
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reality with MASS goliath moves towards 11.5 but doesn't attack the nex scans and destroys an obs lots of tank/goliath now attacking and destroying backho's nex at 11.5 3 tanks moving to siege 10.5 - carriers will end that quickly though | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:29 Holgerius wrote: Where did you think you were going with that dropship? I thought it would retreat...since it was obvious backho's army (including you know, goons) was heading north to deal with the drop at 10.5... backho losing what army he has confronting reality's metalball but his carriers attack reality's main goons get trapped at 4.5 and all die | ||
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gols, thousands of them! 2/1 ups. reality's 4th is neutralized at least. but backho's carriers are in the main!!! gets two facs! wow so many gols wow. but not in the right place lol. | ||
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now attacking the next round of goliaths that emerge 4 observers accompany them backho also has a super huge pure zealot ground army... carrier/zealot vs goliath/tank surprisingly effective? or not - even more goliaths reinforcing and all the zealots die | ||
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Zona
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4 dt's 2 goons now heading out 3 zealots attack reality's defenseless 5th at 5.5 reality rebuilding 2 of his factories, adding turrets west of his main dts swiping at goliaths | ||
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Apex
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All I can say is "wat" | ||
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Korea (South)9172 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:34 Musoeun wrote: Am I the only one who thinks it might have been smarter to suicide the carriers to wipe out Reality's factories, and then remacro with zeal/goon? That would be really, really dumb. Considering the upgrade disadvantage and how imba critical mass carriers are. | ||
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Zona
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dts netting a lot of goliath kills - and dts attacking the turret/comsat at 4.5... | ||
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alffla
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zealots find the 5th of reality, have a ball reality adds 3 more facs lol backho hits 'k' a bunch of times, dts out to take out 4th/5th... oh they just snipe gols instead! dts snipe a scanner and cleared the 4th actually ok. | ||
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Zona
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backho has so many carriers, whittling down the goliath numbers backho - you may want to destroy a few bases or factories though! | ||
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Yxes2211
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BackHo puling out all the stops | ||
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goliaths still fighting the goliath mass n of 5.5 - one goliathf inally desplodes here come the templar - storm! but the goliaths back off 2 tanks immediately picked off lots of storms on the goliaths reality concedes! | ||
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SaikOuLighT
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On December 18 2010 15:24 ariK wrote: It's times like these that make me wanna switch my team icon if it wasn't for my eternal worship of jaedong. Forget this, Jesus has restored my faith in the Oz religion :D | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:36 alffla wrote: there seem to be a lot of carriers in recent pvt matches maps, probably. 3/1 gols, backho pumping hts! ugh carrier goes down storm and carrier. REALITY GGS YEAHHHHHHHH BACKHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | ||
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Lucumo
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On December 18 2010 15:37 Zona wrote: wow backho wins a game! And crowd goes insane over it, lol. | ||
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New Zealand846 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
Well, this game has to be recommended, for the sake of all the new SC2-recruits who never saw a BackHo Special before. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
Did I just see this? What the- ANYWAYS, Oz trailing 2-3 now. Will another Oz teammate stand up for Jaedong? | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
Poll: Do you recomend Set 5? yes (50) meh (2) no (1) 53 total votes Your vote: Do you recomend Set 5? | ||
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PROTOOOOSSOSOSSSS! | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
Now send out Lomo out! He's Oz's #1 clutch player | ||
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alffla
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LightAngels
United States299 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
ROFL, pulling magical units out of his ass, tech switching like a boss. | ||
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Zaxro
United States261 Posts
Backho played that game pretty well, good to see that Oz isn't just gonna get 4-1 again even though I'm a Khan fan. | ||
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On December 18 2010 15:40 Confuse wrote: loving how happy everyone is regardless of team for backho it's like when mumyung or rock wins a game. it's just ... hilarious.<3 backho. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:40 Confuse wrote: loving how happy everyone is regardless of team for backho I am not. I'm a little happy for JD's sake though. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
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Flushot
United States218 Posts
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Gabriel
149 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:41 ]343[ wrote: it's like when mumyung or rock wins a game. it's just ... hilarious.<3 backho. I actually hated mumyung. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:46 Flushot wrote: I find it incredible that (like another poster said) every toss unit except the other air units was made in that game. Dark Archon? Archon for that matter. | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:46 Flushot wrote: I find it incredible that (like another poster said) every toss unit except the other air units was made in that game. Not really. He didn't make any archons or dark archons. | ||
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XThunderyX
United States367 Posts
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
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Confuse
2238 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
O.o o.O WUT?! | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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prototype.
Canada4200 Posts
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
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Vuk_91
Serbia1690 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
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Byzantium
United States423 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:49 SplashbackFerret wrote: I think that's Bee. Their top B-team terran. Oz's top B-team Terran? Sounds promising. -__- | ||
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
BeeYeah, newbie. Good for Oz or bad for Oz. We shall see... | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:49 SplashbackFerret wrote: I think that's Bee. Their top B-team terran. Probably. There's Bee/Speed/Kal[Kal]/Sexy. And if Bee is their Top B-team terran, then that's probably right. Worth giving your new guys a shot? | ||
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:50 tree.hugger wrote: BEE TEAM! god damn it, I was about to edit my post to make this pun. | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
I can feel it | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Vuk_91
Serbia1690 Posts
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
What the hell was that? 12 pool? 12 hatch? | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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XThunderyX
United States367 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:52 DarkMatter_ wrote: If this goes to Ace, something tells me Khan is going to send Turn and not Stork. With Stork being one of the very few players with a winning record against Jaedong, that would be retarded. Not outside the realm of possibility, but incredibly stupid. | ||
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Gabriel
149 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:50 SplashbackFerret wrote: god damn it, I was about to edit my post to make this pun. you could have gone with the newbee, but whatever. | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:53 XThunderyX wrote: Poor guy, this is probably the most stressful time of his life. All comes down to you to tie it up, your first televised game against an established progamer... Hopefully we can get an ACE. Dolphin kick great! Don't think it's that stressful to be honest, no on is expecting anything from him. | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
WIN IT FOR US 6 lings doing good damage. | ||
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Vuk_91
Serbia1690 Posts
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
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XThunderyX
United States367 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:54 Holgerius wrote: Don't think it's that stressful to be honest, no on is expecting anything from him. I'm expecting something from him!!! Also, zerglings. Gah. | ||
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prototype.
Canada4200 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:53 XThunderyX wrote: Poor guy, this is probably the most stressful time of his life. All comes down to you to tie it up, your first televised game against an established progamer... Hopefully we can get an ACE. Dolphin kick great! He had a televised game before. STX masters cup. Spoiler: he lost | ||
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
i guess it's smart play by great to do that to a newbie gg already? wtf | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
YES KHAN ZOMG OK U GUYS KNOW THE PATTERN I TRANSLATE INTERVIEW NOBODY EFFING TOUCH YEAHHAHAHAHAHA KHAN YES WE KHAN | ||
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Confuse
2238 Posts
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
was sad | ||
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nextstep
Canada705 Posts
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SaikOuLighT
Canada742 Posts
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
Great wins! Khan wins overall 4-2. Why GG so early? Your team is on the brink of elimination. Isn't it courtesy to at least try for the miracle comeback? | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
Poll: Do you recomend Set 6? wut? (27) no (6) 33 total votes Your vote: Do you recomend Set 6? | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:56 OpticalShot wrote: LOL GG ALREADY YES KHAN ZOMG OK U GUYS KNOW THE PATTERN I TRANSLATE INTERVIEW NOBODY EFFING TOUCH YEAHHAHAHAHAHA KHAN YES WE KHAN Thanks in advance, can build this 4-2 victory, yes we Khan! http://www.article-subjects.com/characters-and-products/bobthebuilder/bob the builder.jpg | ||
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XThunderyX
United States367 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:56 OpticalShot wrote: LOL GG ALREADY YES KHAN ZOMG OK U GUYS KNOW THE PATTERN I TRANSLATE INTERVIEW NOBODY EFFING TOUCH YEAHHAHAHAHAHA KHAN YES WE KHAN I can't believe you're this excited about KHAN defeating OZ. I mean, they didn't even manage 4-1. | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
so fast? didn't even see it | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:56 Apex wrote: Why GG so early? Your team is on the brink of elimination. Isn't it courtesy to at least try for the miracle comeback? Lurkers on the way in a few minutes, no way to defend. It was over. | ||
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Xinliben
United States931 Posts
...It had no effect. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:57 kuroshiroi wrote: Lurkers on the way in a few minutes, no way to defend. It was over. Hmm. :[ Seemed so abrupt, I don't know. I don't know what I just watched. 6 lings into GG. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Every victory is PRECIOUS! Khan is climbing the ranks! 2 more wins and into the playoff spots! Plus our team's momentum is good (besides poor Jangbi). ANYWAYS.INTERVIEW IS MINE. Xiphos, I'll include the builder somewhere in the interview if I can remember it. | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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Zaxro
United States261 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:58 OpticalShot wrote: You have no clue how ecstatic I get when Stork wins and Khan wins. Every victory is PRECIOUS! Khan is climbing the ranks! 2 more wins and into the playoff spots! Plus our team's momentum is good (besides poor Jangbi). ANYWAYS.INTERVIEW IS MINE. Xiphos, I'll include the builder somewhere in the interview if I can remember it. HAHA, that's epic! Well off to sleep tight for now, thanks the streams and this thread! | ||
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prototype.
Canada4200 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:59 n.DieJokes wrote: hey, at least we won two games this time That'll do hwaseung... that'll do. | ||
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ssregi-
Korea (South)146 Posts
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kuroshiroi
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On December 18 2010 16:01 DarkMatter_ wrote: I'm really beginning to dislike Hiya. Same here, and since I watched his game, I have to take a bath now | ||
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boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On December 18 2010 16:03 boesthius wrote: i'm so happy my byung goo won today :3 i'm so happy BACKHOOOOOOOOOO won today :4 | ||
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Starting translations nao~ | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On December 18 2010 16:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Woot KHAN looking good! 'cept for Jangbi but thats to be expected right :/? Anyway stork won a game so I'm happy :D JangBi didn't look that bad considering it was against Jaedong. He played better than Snow or Stats did at least. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
oink oink oh well, atleast it wasn't 4-0 | ||
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gorgoino18
Korea (South)109 Posts
EDIT: It was in Craton's stream. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Love you, BackHo. <3 | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
GO KHAN | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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Emon_
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CoWsGoesMoo
250 Posts
On December 18 2010 18:02 Kanil wrote: I was just thinking of game 5 when this came to mind... + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12lc7jVpfUc#t=28m12s Love you, BackHo. <3 what is this I don't even. | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Watched that game - one mistake cost terran the game. =/ Maybe he's not that bad, I think no. But really he's not Flash to come back from situation like this. =__= | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:57 okum wrote: More like... JangBi had one 5-second timing window in the early game and then it was just a formality. More like...Jaedong built just the right amount of stuff to survive while droning, Jangbi's +1 corsairs were wasted money, and a Protoss who tries to fight a 4 gas Zerg with 2 gas and 1 mineral only is completely hopeless. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On December 19 2010 00:32 SubtleArt wrote: More like...Jaedong built just the right amount of stuff to survive while droning, Jangbi's +1 corsairs were wasted money, and a Protoss who tries to fight a 4 gas Zerg with 2 gas and 1 mineral only is completely hopeless. Pretty sure that JangBi was on 3 Gas vs 4 gas at one point, JangBi should've early expanded himself with that group of Zealot (headed to the 6 o clock of JD's, which didn't do that much dmg to it except for killing ONE Sunkens) to a third gas expansion so he could get Reavers in time when Jaedong goes Dark Swarm mode but NOOO, he got to use those Zealots uselessly. | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 19 2010 01:31 DarkMatter_ wrote: BTW, Jaedong's vP winrate just hit 70%. Now he only needs to get his horrible ZvT up there and he's just as cool as Flash. ^__^ | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
It's not quite at the same level as his other matchups but he still has by far the best ZvT on the scene (and keep in mind that unlike other zergs, he's constantly been having Bo3s and Bo5s against the top TvZ players as opposed to getting easy wins against scrubs). In comparison the ZvTs of Zero, Soulkey, Calm and Action are 53%, 46%, 46% and 47% respectively. EDIT 2: Besides, I still think Jaedong's ZvT is his most impressive matchup, purely in terms of skill and multitasking. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On December 19 2010 00:38 Xiphos wrote: Pretty sure that JangBi was on 3 Gas vs 4 gas at one point, JangBi should've early expanded himself with that group of Zealot (headed to the 6 o clock of JD's, which didn't do that much dmg to it except for killing ONE Sunkens) to a third gas expansion so he could get Reavers in time when Jaedong goes Dark Swarm mode but NOOO, he got to use those Zealots uselessly. No jangbi was always on 2 gas for most of the game and the 3rd he got was a mineral only. He had a fourth base running but it was only for like 30 seconds because lings killed it so doesnt count | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On December 19 2010 01:44 Holgerius wrote: Now he only needs to get his horrible ZvT up there and he's just as cool as Flash. ^__^ It's not horrible, its still over 60%...that's really good for a Zerg considering how hard ZvT is and how many bullshit pre-muta or pre-defiler timing pushes there are | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On December 19 2010 01:44 Holgerius wrote: Now he only needs to get his horrible ZvT up there and he's just as cool as Flash. ^__^ Jaedong will never get up there to Flash because, not the skill level involved, but the pure nature of ZvZ and ZvT. =) I saw a korean post about this a while back, I wish I could still find it Poor Jangbi, just when his games started picking back up, he had to face Jaedong in ZvP. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On December 19 2010 05:50 lastmotion wrote: Jaedong will never get up there to Flash because, not the skill level involved, but the pure nature of ZvZ and ZvT. =) roflmao Anyone was talking about such shit in PvZ, and then there came Bisu and just out-buildordered Savior.)))))) Same thing may happen in ZvT too, there's so much space for development still in this 12-year-old game, you know... About ZvZ i dunno, Jaedong already proved that it's all about skill level, not only a coinflip, I think. Although some luck factor is involved. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On December 19 2010 05:55 _Quasar_ wrote: roflmao Anyone was talking about such shit in PvZ, and then there came Bisu and just out-buildordered Savior.)))))) Same thing may happen in ZvT too, there's so much space for development still in this 12-year-old game, you know... About ZvZ i dunno, Jaedong already proved that it's all about skill level, not only a coinflip, I think. Although some luck factor is involved. You are seriously one of the most uninformed posters on teamliquid...please learn the game before commenting | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On December 19 2010 05:55 _Quasar_ wrote: roflmao Anyone was talking about such shit in PvZ, and then there came Bisu and just out-buildordered Savior.)))))) Same thing may happen in ZvT too, there's so much space for development still in this 12-year-old game, you know... About ZvZ i dunno, Jaedong already proved that it's all about skill level, not only a coinflip, I think. Although some luck factor is involved. Bisu might have revolutionized PvZ but PvZ tilted back to Zerg's favor after Zerg players learned how to play against Protoss's FE Corsair Opening. In my opinion, ZvT is in a worse state than PvZ but feel free to prove me wrong. I don't even think it's right comparing PvZ to ZvT...at least PvZ has times during the game when Protoss is in strong favor (late late game with Archons + Reavers, and Mid-Game Goon + Zeal + Temp when Zergs need lurkers to hold it off) whereas for Zerg in ZvT, I think it's only the timing window of muta harrass and that's like a few minutes at best. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On December 19 2010 01:56 SubtleArt wrote: No jangbi was always on 2 gas for most of the game and the 3rd he got was a mineral only. He had a fourth base running but it was only for like 30 seconds because lings killed it so doesnt count He took the inner ring third, which has a gas. The one that lings killed was the min-only. + Show Spoiler + MISINFORMED POSTER, WHAT+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On December 19 2010 06:35 SubtleArt wrote: You are seriously one of the most uninformed posters on teamliquid...please learn the game before commenting Wouldn't you bother with telling the actual points where I'm mistaken, instead of this unargumented trashtalk -___- Really, good ol' teamliquid trend of insulting newcomer members. -___- Thank you very much, you really create a positive image for this site. Hope that 99% other people here aren't the same. I was just simply trying to tell that the "nature of a matchup" is an always evolving thing, because each race's gameplay changes from time to time. And as for Zerg race, some people following this game since the beginning, believe that Zerg might be the race that benefits the most from good management (or simply the "theoretically best race"). And I have some reasons to believe them because they've made some good predictions on the match-up evolution that proved to be correct. So that's why I believe that some time after some Zerg players find the way to prove this. Although now you're free to cast a shitstorm on me or anyone who claims anything similar because we have no "proofs" | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On December 19 2010 06:53 lastmotion wrote: Bisu might have revolutionized PvZ but PvZ tilted back to Zerg's favor after Zerg players learned how to play against Protoss's FE Corsair Opening. In my opinion, ZvT is in a worse state than PvZ but feel free to prove me wrong. I don't even think it's right comparing PvZ to ZvT...at least PvZ has times during the game when Protoss is in strong favor (late late game with Archons + Reavers, and Mid-Game Goon + Zeal + Temp when Zergs need lurkers to hold it off) whereas for Zerg in ZvT, I think it's only the timing window of muta harrass and that's like a few minutes at best. I can't actually prove you wrong as I've said before, but there's just a sense that Zerg has a resource for evolution. If Zerg can find a way to minimize the damage from vessels and kill them more efficiently, get safe gas expansions beyond the initial 2 gas bases, react to drops properly and keep up with the Terran upgrades, then they will get big advantage, because their tech has more potential. But all must be carefully adapted to the maps and players. =) | ||
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
On December 19 2010 05:50 lastmotion wrote: Jaedong will never get up there to Flash because, not the skill level involved, but the pure nature of ZvZ and ZvT. =) During 'Swarm Season' in 2009, ZvT favoured Zerg, with Jaedong leading the pack. If there are Zerg favoured maps and/or innovations in ZvT strategy, it could potentially happen again. JvZ is not like it used to be when JD simply had way better muta micro than everyone else, but his ZvZ record (both recent and overall) still rivals Flash's TvT (it's actually better overall). Since ZvZ is more build order based than TvT, Jaedong's probably more likely to lose individual games to random zergs than Flash is to random Terrans (although Flash's MSL games seem to indicate otherwise), but in a BoX, there's nothing to indicate that JD is more likely to lose to a Zerg than Flash is to T in a BoX. I don't know if Jaedong will ever reach the God mode level of Flash, but it doesn't seem like the nature of ZvZ and ZvT is what will prevent him from doing so. | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On December 19 2010 07:19 reincremate wrote: During 'Swarm Season' in 2009, ZvT favoured Zerg, with Jaedong leading the pack. . From what I remember, "Swarm Season" Z and T was 50/50 Not to mention Swarm Season was seriously one season long versus TvZ years of dominance | ||
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SplashbackFerret
New Zealand846 Posts
On December 18 2010 15:38 hacklebeast wrote: Poll: Do you recomend Set 5? yes (50) meh (2) no (1) 53 total votes Your vote: Do you recomend Set 5? Most one-sided poll ever? | ||
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e_i_pi_1_0
933 Posts
I am really getting sad and exasperated watching Oz like this. Can someone explain why HiyA is slumping this badly? He's doing almost as bad as the Oz protosses last year. >_<. Poor Killer had to be matched up against Stork of all people. Is it just me, or are Oz Protoss > Oz Terran this season? I can't imagine how pissed Jaedong must be at his teammates right now. He's devoting so much time to practicing for PL, and his teammates keep failing him. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
On December 19 2010 01:44 Holgerius wrote: Now he only needs to get his horrible ZvT up there and he's just as cool as Flash. ^__^ It's not Jaedong, it's the horrible match up. Btw, Flash only needs to qualify for the msl to be as awesome as Jaedong. | ||
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ToFu.
331 Posts
last place oz again! | ||
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