EPTFree had 2 extra bases (!) and still couldn't break Flashs contain. Maybe it's for the best that we get another Jaedong vs. Flash finals
[OSL] Semi-Final B free vs Flash - Page 61
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Emon_
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Free had 2 extra bases (!) and still couldn't break Flashs contain. Maybe it's for the best that we get another Jaedong vs. Flash finals | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
On September 04 2010 21:03 Lightwip wrote: The best part about that series was when Flash scouted the proxy and was like "shit!" Haha, yes. It's almost mandatory that Flash loses at least one game in a Bo5 in a silly way. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Vargavaka
Sweden111 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
On September 04 2010 07:57 Danger_Duck wrote: Still dunno why they haven't modified it so that 6 o clock minerals face down and gas face nat to match the 3 clock Oo..... didn't even notice that till now. Great find, they really should fix that to balance out both main bases. Because if you start at 6'o clock, you need work your way around workers to try to build | ||
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wswordsmen
United States987 Posts
On September 05 2010 02:11 Seeker wrote: Oo..... didn't even notice that till now. Great find, they really should fix that to balance out both main bases. Because if you start at 6'o clock, you need work your way around workers to try to build Gas mines fastest if the mine is on the top/left according to SDM (he said so in an SCforAll video) | ||
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p14c
Vatican City State431 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On September 05 2010 03:57 p14c wrote: NuketheStars summarized the best this series: Flash (aka Terminator) to Free: "Give me your clothes!" hahaRofl, yeah. XD | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On September 04 2010 23:18 Lightwip wrote: If anyone else wants it. That was just golden. And seems like everybody in the audience laughed as well  | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On September 04 2010 15:28 darktreb wrote: Similarly, Sea vs Jaedong was one of the biggest blown games of 2010. Even with Sea at 3 o'clock the Dong manhandled him and had pretty much a 5 minute window where he could have kept Sea trapped with the Mutas he already had and just transitioned into ... well, anything. Not to mention Dong taking the exposed double gas which made it so Sea only had to take 3 steps out of his natural to take out 2 of JD's gas as opposed to any other base on the map where he would have had more time to react. . I don't think you play zerg enough to understand that the certain build Jaedong went, it was either allin mutas, or bust. Tech switching on such low drones will essentially give Terran back the upper hand. It was hardly a biggest blown game like you think it was. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
1 Eye of the Storm 2 Polaris Rhapsody 3 Grand Line 4 Dreamliner 5 Eye of the Storm source:http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=110337&db=news&cate=001&page=1&field=&kwrd= | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On September 05 2010 07:32 moopie wrote: Map order for the Finals was posted. 1 Eye of the Storm 2 Polaris Rhapsody 3 Grand Line 4 Dreamliner 5 Eye of the Storm source:http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=110337&db=news&cate=001&page=1&field=&kwrd= Excellent. Eye of the Storm looks like a well-balanced map for ZvT. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On September 05 2010 07:29 Tien wrote: I don't think you play zerg enough to understand that the certain build Jaedong went, it was either allin mutas, or bust. Tech switching on such low drones will essentially give Terran back the upper hand. It was hardly a biggest blown game like you think it was. You're probably right that it wasn't as big of a blown game as I've made it out to be. But Jaedong kept churning out Mutas that weren't even always getting used - are you telling me that he couldn't have made a round of Drones with that at any point? I understand that he likely took the double gas because it's two gas for the price of one and he was depending on Mutas to defend anyway so it being exposed didn't matter as much. But instead of getting the double gas, which cost him another few Drones and essentially committed him completely to the all-in due to its location, why not make a round of Drones and transition? His Drone count goes from low to acceptable with just one round off the Hatcheries he had and I definitely think he could have traded building some Mutas for a Hydra Den/Lurker and a couple Lurkers. I guess I'm underestimating how hard it is to defend with Lurkers on such a wide open map though. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On September 05 2010 09:35 darktreb wrote: You're probably right that it wasn't as big of a blown game as I've made it out to be. But Jaedong kept churning out Mutas that weren't even always getting used - are you telling me that he couldn't have made a round of Drones with that at any point? I understand that he likely took the double gas because it's two gas for the price of one and he was depending on Mutas to defend anyway so it being exposed didn't matter as much. But instead of getting the double gas, which cost him another few Drones and essentially committed him completely to the all-in due to its location, why not make a round of Drones and transition? His Drone count goes from low to acceptable with just one round off the Hatcheries he had and I definitely think he could have traded building some Mutas for a Hydra Den/Lurker and a couple Lurkers. I guess I'm underestimating how hard it is to defend with Lurkers on such a wide open map though. Um, you don't just "make" a round of drones. Jaedong had built up minerals because mutas are gas heavy by intake, not extra larva. Jaedong was in constant muta production and had minerals to spare. When you have minerals to spare the things you can do are: Make hatcheries, make refineries. In a build that's all in of a certain unit composition you don't just magically get the larva to make enough drones. Jaedong was already making some drones so he could saturate his gases, he was just stupid and did it at the center because...he wanted to. | ||
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FirstProbe
1206 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On September 05 2010 09:35 darktreb wrote: I understand that he likely took the double gas because it's two gas for the price of one and he was depending on Mutas to defend anyway so it being exposed didn't matter as much. But instead of getting the double gas, which cost him another few Drones and essentially committed him completely to the all-in due to its location, why not make a round of Drones and transition? His Drone count goes from low to acceptable with just one round off the Hatcheries he had and I definitely think he could have traded building some Mutas for a Hydra Den/Lurker and a couple Lurkers. I guess I'm underestimating how hard it is to defend with Lurkers on such a wide open map though. If Jaedong stops making mutas, which he's already researching +2 armor, he gives Sea 2-3 minutes of leeway to build up an army for a strong timing attack before lurks. Sometimes, all a pro zerg needs is 1 mistake or 1 little hole to slip in and he can waste the entire Terran marine army with 11 mutas. Jaedong kept pushing for that opening but eventually couldn't. Sea played perfectly that game. Watch the Jaedong game vs Iris on Chupung Ryeung. That's the exact build Jaedong is using. This is just semantics though. The map still favors zerg obviously. But Sea showed strong Terran defense still can win on that map. | ||
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