• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:58
CET 10:58
KST 18:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion5Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Fantasy's Q&A video BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs?
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1361 users

[WCG] 2010 Korea Round of 16 Day 4 - Page 19

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 35 Next All
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
August 17 2010 04:34 GMT
#361
Zero is fucking king.
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
August 17 2010 04:34 GMT
#362
On August 17 2010 13:33 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 13:32 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Why would you split your forces against Terran mech? Zero could've easily overwhelmed Fantasy's 3rd if he didn't waste so many units on the drop.

Doesn't matter at this point


You are supposed to take advantage of the fact that Terran mech's low mobility.

Anyways Zero proved what Flash did in their previous game was no easy thing to do.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
August 17 2010 04:34 GMT
#363
GG

Good game from Zero. Fantasy did some good defense, and one good vulture run by, but he spent too long holed up by mutas and econ was just screwed after.
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
August 17 2010 04:34 GMT
#364
Looks like fantasy didn't learn from Sea's slaughtering a couple of days ago with his bio into mech match.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Ironbear
Profile Joined April 2010
United States21 Posts
August 17 2010 04:35 GMT
#365
I wonder how much Zero practices this map due to the 2500 gas he had at one point.
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
August 17 2010 04:35 GMT
#366
Argh, he should've taken the centre left expansion. He could've cut the distance in half and took 2 expansions with it. Left him way too open taking the expansions along the edge of the map.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 04:36:30
August 17 2010 04:35 GMT
#367
On August 17 2010 13:34 dani_caliKorea wrote:
Anyways Zero proved what Flash did in their previous game was no easy thing to do.

Shhh, mech imba, haven't you heard?

Zero is a baller though.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
August 17 2010 04:36 GMT
#368
so much pleasure to see mech taken apart these days
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 17 2010 04:36 GMT
#369
On August 17 2010 13:34 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 13:31 n.DieJokes wrote:
I don't think Fantasy has the mechanical skill to beat ZerO the way FlaSh did

It's more like this is why you don't expand upwards on this map and instead should expand toward 3 or 9.

Z can't flank and turrets stop drops etc so easily.

eh I think it could have worked, theoretically it's a much easier four gas and from there he could have crawled down towards the main. It doesn't pressure ZerO at all though and fantasy did not do a good enough or quick enough job setting up his turtle
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
August 17 2010 04:36 GMT
#370
On August 17 2010 13:35 Ironbear wrote:
I wonder how much Zero practices this map due to the 2500 gas he had at one point.


That was because of the vults which massacred his drones. It's always ok to bank gas as Zerg anyway, he of course ended up using all of it very shortly after.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
August 17 2010 04:37 GMT
#371
On August 17 2010 13:34 koreasilver wrote:
Zero is fucking king.


Well... queen.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 17 2010 04:37 GMT
#372
And thus bio into mech joins the ranks of 8 rax overlord snipe, 5 rax, 14cc, and other TvZ builds deemed unbeatable for a week by the crybaby zergs of TL.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 17 2010 04:38 GMT
#373
On August 17 2010 13:34 n.DieJokes wrote:
Also, I would like everyone to take note on how good and valuable ultras are vs. mech


they are still terrible. The difference is that a player like Light uses his initial MM force to get map control, mines the shit out of the map and gets his expansions up.

Fantasy didn't. When you're facing 30 tanks backed up by mines Ultras are fucking terrible.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
August 17 2010 04:38 GMT
#374
On August 17 2010 13:33 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 13:32 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Why would you split your forces against Terran mech? Zero could've easily overwhelmed Fantasy's 3rd if he didn't waste so many units on the drop.

Because if all your stuff is one place so is his... The more fronts you can attack on the stronger your play

A "fake" drop would've been much more effective (something I wish more zergs would try) forcing Terran to pull some tanks to his main, followed by an allout attack on Fantasy 3rd. Fantasy really didn't have many units at his 3rd base, Zero could've easily overwhelmed him and ended the game right there.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 04:38:45
August 17 2010 04:38 GMT
#375
On August 17 2010 13:35 Ironbear wrote:
I wonder how much Zero practices this map due to the 2500 gas he had at one point.

Its massing so much gas that allowed him to replenish his forces so quickly in order to overwhelm fantasy. He tried the same thing against Flash, but Flash's D was just ridiculous.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
August 17 2010 04:39 GMT
#376
Fantasy better win, and sup with the banner? I first saw the right text turn white...
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
August 17 2010 04:39 GMT
#377
On August 17 2010 13:38 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 13:34 n.DieJokes wrote:
Also, I would like everyone to take note on how good and valuable ultras are vs. mech


they are still terrible. The difference is that a player like Light uses his initial MM force to get map control, mines the shit out of the map and gets his expansions up.

Fantasy didn't. When you're facing 30 tanks backed up by mines Ultras are fucking terrible.

Fantasy mined it up pretty well. Zero made it a priority to sweep them up though.

Plus, it's much easier said than done to make some kind of unbreakable defense like Flash did against Zero when dark swarm and 'lings are involved..
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
August 17 2010 04:39 GMT
#378
I thought the games had already ended, only about 50 viewers at Myst and grobyc streams each, eek

Go Zero!!!
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
August 17 2010 04:40 GMT
#379
Zeroooooo!
I really love the way Zero plays Zerg :D
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
August 17 2010 04:41 GMT
#380
Also, I don't think that game proves anything regarding the lategame mech imbalance. Zero had the advantage of being able to skip lurkers and tech straight to ultras (a unit that works against both bio and mech). One of the big problems with the lategame mech transition is that by then, zerg has invested a lot in lurkers.
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 35 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
All-Star Invitational
03:00
Day 2
herO vs ReynorLIVE!
WardiTV2392
PiGStarcraft1075
WinterStarcraft1009
IndyStarCraft 471
BRAT_OK 380
3DClanTV 197
EnkiAlexander 79
IntoTheiNu 36
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft1075
WinterStarcraft1009
IndyStarCraft 471
BRAT_OK 380
MindelVK 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 5608
firebathero 948
Shuttle 872
Larva 605
Stork 364
BeSt 336
Soma 162
Hyun 144
Leta 101
sorry 100
[ Show more ]
Rush 97
Mini 83
Shine 83
yabsab 50
Free 39
ToSsGirL 39
Sharp 36
Hyuk 36
Light 33
HiyA 32
NotJumperer 24
Sacsri 18
zelot 17
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
Noble 9
Terrorterran 9
Models 3
Dota 2
XcaliburYe37
League of Legends
JimRising 586
C9.Mang0474
Counter-Strike
allub397
Other Games
Happy558
Sick203
Fuzer 194
Mew2King63
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2282
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH83
• naamasc217
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 14
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1968
• Stunt612
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2m
CranKy Ducklings4
OSC
2h 2m
Shameless vs NightMare
YoungYakov vs MaNa
Nicoract vs Jumy
Gerald vs TBD
Creator vs TBD
BSL 21
10h 2m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
IPSL
10h 2m
Dewalt vs Sziky
Replay Cast
23h 2m
Wardi Open
1d 2h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 7h
The PondCast
3 days
Big Brain Bouts
5 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.