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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:02 ISighZ wrote: I feel bad for effort. It seem the new style of T v Z. Zerg have to do a lot more than the terran just to win...  welcome to pvt t.t once terran players have a certain skill level they are ridiculously hard to beat €still I have to say, the vulture is too strong in every matchup 75 mins no gas for 3 mines and 20 explosive(?) dmg is pretty hard to beat should cost at least like 15 gas | ||
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:04 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: did you guys totally not notice the gigantic hole effort put himself in by pissing away all his gas on guardians yes ling defiler is hard to crack metal with, especially if it's ALL YOU CAN AFFORD please pay attention to the game before you say dumb stuff like 'omg zerg can do nothing' yeah, those guardians lost him the game : ( | ||
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:09 Djin)ftw( wrote: welcome to pvt t.t once terran players have a certain skill level they are ridiculously hard to beat Yeah, that skill level being "better than you." | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:09 luckybeni2 wrote: Do not whine about how imba terran is. Light might just be the best tvz player around and what he did today was a pretty much perfect game. Effort never was the favorite to win against him, probably even JD isn't. in the past half year Light has an over 90 % win ratio against zerg no way, flash is better than him | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:09 Djin)ftw( wrote: welcome to pvt t.t once terran players have a certain skill level they are ridiculously hard to beat lol no offense but PvT is no where near as gay as ZvMech at least we got dt drops and carriers to piss on terrans with  | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:09 Djin)ftw( wrote: welcome to pvt t.t once terran players have a certain skill level they are ridiculously hard to beat €still I have to say, the vulture is too strong in every matchup 75 mins no gas for 3 mines and 20 explosive(?) dmg is pretty hard to beat should cost at least like 15 gas Yes, time to nerf Terran! | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
muta is much better 1 guardian = 2 muta | ||
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Zeburial
Sweden1126 Posts
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aNaZnBabO
United States59 Posts
it looked like effort had it when he defended his expos but clutch mines rofl... and yeah effort is inferior to zero's play vs mech | ||
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:11 Zeburial wrote: Noticed how Light didn't have much anti-air? Might be a good idea to switch to mass-mutas if a terran starts to go Mech in ZvT? =D You need a monster economy to do this, which effort didn't have | ||
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:08 Gustav_Wind wrote: Effort didn't play optimally but it kind of annoys me when people just quote day9's advice from over a year ago (mech play hasn't evolved at all since then, right?) and suggest that progamers have no clue what they are doing. Hydra/Muta is a great way to battle Mech when you have a big econ advantage. Which effort never had. Per cost, fully upgraded Goliath/Tank will destroy Hydra/Muta. Effort had to get tricky to stay in the game. Mech play now seems to be a denial of a 3rd or 4th aggressively with marines and then transitioning into Mech off of this earlier base denial of the zerg. I'm not just mindlessly spouting idiocy. Fully upgrading ultras does nothing when the damage received is 85 and 125 respectively. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
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LetMeShine
979 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:08 GhoSt[shield] wrote: Didn't Effort go Guardians to combat the earlier marine pressure put on by Light. Specifically the denial of 9 expo and then stall/halt tank, mnm vessel push before consume is complete? Doing it 3 times was too much granted, but the 1st time when he was parked at the natural seemed a reasonable decision. Guardians at the natural unsupported is like never a good idea unless you're seriously destroying the terran and/or he's completely awful (Skyhigh level of TvZ). Sure he stopped the expo, blew a few turrets and killed a few SCVs but lost like 8 to science vessels. Its not like Light was really in an awful position in the first place. On August 05 2010 20:11 Zeburial wrote: Noticed how Light didn't have much anti-air? Might be a good idea to switch to mass-mutas if a terran starts to go Mech in ZvT? =D He had no gas, big reason he kept spamming zerglings and when he switched to ultralisks had no defilers. | ||
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:12 Gustav_Wind wrote: You need a monster economy to do this, which effort didn't have He had enough economy to morph repeated waves of guardians. Once he had held top right and secured 9 I was expecting him to transition into something else. | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
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dkpl
Canada1485 Posts
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On August 05 2010 20:12 tomatriedes wrote: Does anyone here really want all-terran semi-finals? Never underestimate Jaedong, even if the map pool is gay. Have faith. | ||
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