EPTno but seriously jd will invent 9 hatch queen to combat this
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
no but seriously jd will invent 9 hatch queen to combat this | ||
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Draffut
United States128 Posts
On August 07 2010 05:50 shawster wrote: kwanro already found the way to beat this strat guys, it's okay we got it under control. watch game 1 wcg kwanro vs really i think. no but seriously jd will invent 9 hatch queen to combat this Really, who has lost his last 13 vZ? Do you have an example with a Terran who isn't notoriously worthless in this matchup? On August 06 2010 23:41 revy wrote: over time it balances out. Since 2005 there have been many "back and forths" between T and Z advantage. Make the argument that T has always had a slight advantage, you're completely right, Z has always had a slight advantage over P. As impossibly difficult as mech seems right now, it will get figured out, and it will get figured out pretty soon. Recall that 10 months ago Flash revolutionized SK Terran and he looked like he couldn't be defeated by using it. By 6 months ago his strat was mortal (though still quite good). Over a year ago Z was doing much better than T, it wasn't until Flash paved the way that this turned around. I am not trying to say that this is the end-all be-all strategy that will end TvZ as we know it. I honestly don't know. All I can vouch for is that with the current metagame, Z is in serious trouble in this matchup if playing against anouther player of even somewhat lower ability. | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
On August 07 2010 07:05 JohnColtrane wrote: you cant just say 'oh it will get figured out later definitely' like somehow you have some certain expectation. not only this, but you say that it will be figured out 'soon.' this kind of play has been out and about for 8 months now. you cant look at whats happened in the past and conclude that there will be a counter to everything SOMEHOW and REAL SOON, its better to ignore all of that and just focus on the gameplay now and how to remedy it And Zerg still was the most dominant race until this season. That is not because P loose all the time because they mostly did not even come that far. TvZ is not as imbalanced as you want it to be and the only reason you people bring that up is because you can not accept that your favorite players make mistakes and loose because of them. Light played a perfect game and he would have won on almost every map against any opponent. Sea beat JD on the incarnation of ZvT imba and JD had a big window of time to close the deal. He did not manage to do that, in fact he managed to suicide entire armies for nothing. Flash was always the favorite against Zero. Get over it people. | ||
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On August 07 2010 10:02 luckybeni2 wrote: And Zerg still was the most dominant race until this season. That is not because P loose all the time because they mostly did not even come that far. TvZ is not as imbalanced as you want it to be and the only reason you people bring that up is because you can not accept that your favorite players make mistakes and loose because of them. Light played a perfect game and he would have won on almost every map against any opponent. Sea beat JD on the incarnation of ZvT imba and JD had a big window of time to close the deal. He did not manage to do that, in fact he managed to suicide entire armies for nothing. Flash was always the favorite against Zero. Get over it people. Well said, but sorry, can you please spell "lose" properly =) I don't know why it keeps jumping out at me loll but yes. Sea is on a roll nowadays, and has a great record vs JD. I don't know why people are flipping out over this game when Sea a few days ago just beat JD on, like you said, the most ZvT imba map to have ever existed (Dreamliner). It's even virtually a recognized FACT by all pros that if you even SPAWN at 6oclock, its insta-gg... so? everyone please stop hating TL's own Yum Bo Sung~~ =( =( he's an amazing player on a hot streak with skill never truly appreciated in individual leagues. Here's to Sea[Shield] winning this MSL!!!! =D =D GO SEA!!!!!!! Most fun/joking personality in SCBW apart from perhaps Hiya XD edit: ah, that was my 600th post?? well it was a worthy way to spend it... GO YUM BO SUNG GO | ||
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Draffut
United States128 Posts
On August 07 2010 10:02 luckybeni2 wrote: Light played a perfect game and he would have won on almost every map against any opponent. Sea beat JD on the incarnation of ZvT imba and JD had a big window of time to close the deal. He did not manage to do that, in fact he managed to suicide entire armies for nothing. Is this the same Sea that said: - How does feel to win the first game of the Round out of 8? ▲ I thought I would win with ease because I prepared well, but I realized that the #1 ranked Zerg is indeed different. Nothing like this happened during practice, and I won due to Terran's innate fraudulence. [T/N: implying Terran is imbalanced, so it's fraudulent to use in games.] I will not let my guard down because I won today and I really need to prepare for the next match thoroughly. - If you have to evaluate the late mechanic strategy ▲ In my opinion, if the Terran has absolute control over the late mechanic strategy, then the Zerg cannot win. If a Terran has really great command over this strategy, there is no way Zerg can win in an average map. But I am sure you know more about it than the person who won the match. the only reason you people bring that up is because you can not accept that your favorite players make mistakes and loose because of them. My favorite player is Leta, and I am quite used to watching him lose at this point. And that is entirely irrelivant here, as his race is the one that is riding high. | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
Am I the only one excited that even after 12 years the game is STILL evolving?? | ||
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nK)Duke
Germany936 Posts
On August 07 2010 15:00 Amnesia wrote: What the fuck is up with you guys and racial imbalance? Am I the only one excited that even after 12 years the game is STILL evolving?? the maps, the maps | ||
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
On August 07 2010 10:02 luckybeni2 wrote: And Zerg still was the most dominant race until this season. That is not because P loose all the time because they mostly did not even come that far. TvZ is not as imbalanced as you want it to be and the only reason you people bring that up is because you can not accept that your favorite players make mistakes and loose because of them. Light played a perfect game and he would have won on almost every map against any opponent. Sea beat JD on the incarnation of ZvT imba and JD had a big window of time to close the deal. He did not manage to do that, in fact he managed to suicide entire armies for nothing. Flash was always the favorite against Zero. Get over it people. actually g, none of those players are my favourites. i dont really give a shit if my favourite player loses, but if anyone loses to an overpowered strategy then ill make a fuss. but of course, you know better than me, as to why im saying it, right genius? sea didnt beat jaedong on dreamliner, jaedong just tossed it away. yea yea, sea beat jaedong on a zerg favoured map. its not like tvz has been dominated by terrans for the history of starcraft. heres something to think about: before late game mech, light wasnt doing THAT well at all. hell, he certainly wasnt going 23-2 over an 8 month period you can have your opinions on if it's not THAT imbalanced, but quite frankly im going to agree with sea, who talked about it in his interview. you know, that guy that plays high level tvz professionally for hours on end? | ||
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