[MSL] Ro8 Day 1 - Page 55

- How does feel to win the first game of the Round out of 8?
▲ I thought I would win with ease because I prepared well, but I realized that the #1 ranked Zerg is indeed different. Nothing like this happened during practice, and I won due to Terran's innate fraudulence. [T/N: implying Terran is imbalanced, so it's fraudulent to use in games.] I will not let my guard down because I won today and I really need to prepare for the next match thoroughly.

On August 06 2010 17:44 Jugan wrote:
THIS IS SEA'S MSL TO WIN! GO SEA GOOOOOO! YUM BO SUNG HWAITINGGGGG!!!!

edit: every time sea alludes to terran imba, he's just being modest

Sea interview:
- If you have to evaluate the late mechanic strategy
▲ In my opinion, if the Terran has absolute control over the late mechanic strategy, then the Zerg cannot win. If a Terran has really great command over this strategy, there is no way Zerg can win in an average map.

On August 06 2010 20:34 revy wrote:
I'm sorry but since ~2005 there have been about twice as many zerg winners of OSL/MSL as either of the other races. Actually I went to liquipedia and did it out counting all titles with "2005" in the title and onwards its been:

OSL: 6 T, 8 Z, 2 P
MSL: 3 T, 9 Z, 3 P

Total: 9 T, 17 Z, 5 P

All this "terran imba" is a joke, if terran is so imba why has it been 5 years of all in all zerg dominance in the individual leagues? Yes terran was imba from 2000-2005 but since then, not really. A title count is admittedly a small sample (31) but large enough to draw some conclusions.

This game more or less balanced, toss need a chance to shine though. The time of the dragons was short and accounted for only 2 titles if I remember correctly.

On August 06 2010 22:11 Draffut wrote:


Or he might just actaully know what he is talking about:





The metagame now is radically different than the time of most of those statistics. Also, as I have mentioned earlier, even when the Zerg are riding high, Terran's innate advantage over them counteracted it somewhat. Now that Terran are riding high, there is an extreme lack of good Protoss around to counteract it at all.

On August 07 2010 00:36 SimonB wrote:
What I find most annoying about all this is I feel like 60% of all this is in response to Jaedong losing. It feels like this happens all the time. Jaedong loses, and his fans just can't accept that he can lose a game by normal means. He lost versus Sea in the OSL because he was "trying to prove something" by using only mutas. It's not because he chose the muta strat from the start and it would've been a riskier than usual transition to lurkers/hive because of his poor econ.

He loses this time, and it's about this unbeatable imba turtling mech strat. So many times has it been called "unbeatable" when it's only been used a few times. Get some perspective, people.

JD's fanbase has taken the title from Savior's as the most insufferable. Sorry guys.

I think there were really windows of opportunity that both Jaedong and Effort failed to exploit in their respective games. Zero played really well versus Flash and lost, but that doesn't mean it's unbeatable, and give some credit to the terran player for once. Flash hasn't been lauded as having the best defensive game for nothing.

On August 06 2010 23:41 revy wrote:


The key is that over time it balances out. Since 2005 there have been many "back and forths" between T and Z advantage. Make the argument that T has always had a slight advantage, you're completely right, Z has always had a slight advantage over P. As impossibly difficult as mech seems right now, it will get figured out, and it will get figured out pretty soon. Recall that 10 months ago Flash revolutionized SK Terran and he looked like he couldn't be defeated by using it. By 6 months ago his strat was mortal (though still quite good). Over a year ago Z was doing much better than T, it wasn't until Flash paved the way that this turned around.