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GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
August 05 2010 11:04 GMT
#541
On August 05 2010 20:02 FetusFondler wrote:
Jeez... I didn't realize how powerful Terran mech was O.O


It is when you run Ultraling (terrible units against Mech, you just need a lot of stuff to beat mech).
Lings and ultras get eaten alive by vultures, spider mines and fully upgraded tank lines. Ultraling is the worst possible combo pretty much besides Lurkers against mech.
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
August 05 2010 11:04 GMT
#542
effort played so stubborn too, continually trying guardians that just got irradiated ... you'd think after the first time or two he'd learn, but he made guardians three times. Then late game he stayed with ultraling forever, doing the same kind of shit the whole time. What happened to muta hydra in response to mech?
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 05 2010 11:04 GMT
#543
did you guys totally not notice the gigantic hole effort put himself in by pissing away all his gas on guardians

yes ling defiler is hard to crack metal with, especially if it's ALL YOU CAN AFFORD

please pay attention to the game before you say dumb stuff like 'omg zerg can do nothing'
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
LV_426
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland432 Posts
August 05 2010 11:04 GMT
#544
mech is not imba, this map is very hard to play as z vs mech terran.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
August 05 2010 11:04 GMT
#545
Mech v Z so strong on PR Dx
Jaedong and Baby
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
August 05 2010 11:05 GMT
#546
On August 05 2010 20:03 EpiK wrote:
what is zerg supposed to do against that? Even effort's gosu defiler usage + drops didn't seem to do much.


The thing is those ultra drops on the tanks were completely unsupported, so Effort was basically trading one ultra for one tank. You want to use drops along with a big attack/swarms but that didn't really happen. Obviously taking on mech is hard for Zerg but this was really inferior to Zero's play against Flash.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
August 05 2010 11:05 GMT
#547
entertaining game, gg

On August 05 2010 20:04 disciple wrote:
effort made some ultras to die along with the lings


haha
beep boop
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 05 2010 11:06 GMT
#548
If zerg gonna complian about terran mech... i reserved the right to RAGE at hydra busts =="
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
August 05 2010 11:06 GMT
#549
awesome game ^^
ace hwaiting!!
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 11:07:05
August 05 2010 11:06 GMT
#550
On August 05 2010 20:04 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
did you guys totally not notice the gigantic hole effort put himself in by pissing away all his gas on guardians

yes ling defiler is hard to crack metal with, especially if it's ALL YOU CAN AFFORD

please pay attention to the game before you say dumb stuff like 'omg zerg can do nothing'


I doubt effort would make anything more than defiler/ling even if he had the money...
but yeah you are right
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 05 2010 11:06 GMT
#551
On August 05 2010 20:04 Yxes2211 wrote:
Mech v Z so strong on PR Dx

Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 05 2010 11:06 GMT
#552
please defeat the gayness jaedong
HEY MEYT
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
August 05 2010 11:06 GMT
#553
oh noes its PR again . JD better win
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
khellian
Profile Joined February 2010
Korea (South)922 Posts
August 05 2010 11:06 GMT
#554
Jaedong, time to show what you are made of. JAEDONG FIGHTING!
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
August 05 2010 11:07 GMT
#555
On August 05 2010 20:06 khellian wrote:
Jaedong, time to show what you are made of. JAEDONG FIGHTING!

Jaedong and Baby
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
August 05 2010 11:07 GMT
#556
I see the importantce of turrents in mech tvz. Light could have won more convinigingly if he put turrents in the middle of the map.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
August 05 2010 11:07 GMT
#557
Cool game, it pains me to see this many terrans advance (and even root for them), but the zergs I don't like or the terrans I do like keep playing... (Calm, effort, Sea)
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
August 05 2010 11:07 GMT
#558
On August 05 2010 20:06 JohnColtrane wrote:
please defeat the gayness jaedong

AMERIKA
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
August 05 2010 11:08 GMT
#559
On August 05 2010 20:04 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
did you guys totally not notice the gigantic hole effort put himself in by pissing away all his gas on guardians


Didn't Effort go Guardians to combat the earlier marine pressure put on by Light. Specifically the denial of 9 expo and then stall/halt tank, mnm vessel push before consume is complete?
Doing it 3 times was too much granted, but the 1st time when he was parked at the natural seemed a reasonable decision.
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
August 05 2010 11:08 GMT
#560
On August 05 2010 20:04 GhoSt[shield] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 20:02 FetusFondler wrote:
Jeez... I didn't realize how powerful Terran mech was O.O


It is when you run Ultraling (terrible units against Mech, you just need a lot of stuff to beat mech).
Lings and ultras get eaten alive by vultures, spider mines and fully upgraded tank lines. Ultraling is the worst possible combo pretty much besides Lurkers against mech.


Effort didn't play optimally but it kind of annoys me when people just quote day9's advice from over a year ago (mech play hasn't evolved at all since then, right?) and suggest that progamers have no clue what they are doing.

Hydra/Muta is a great way to battle Mech when you have a big econ advantage. Which effort never had. Per cost, fully upgraded Goliath/Tank will destroy Hydra/Muta.

Effort had to get tricky to stay in the game.
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