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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 04 2010 05:31 GMT
#261
On August 04 2010 14:08 Ace wrote:
Thats a pretty bad explanation. If you 2 fac vs DT rush and you get mines in time then you are better off than the Protoss. You can safely expand behind mines knowing no observer tech is coming and you dont NEED mines to attack. Protoss has to block his ramp or risk his nat getting compromised.

The real danger of 2 fac vs DTs is if he drops DTs in your base (obviously going around the mines) and this is why the correct response is to get academy or ebay asap and push.

And yea Movie has been bad lately but every time a progamer under performs do we really need this much bitching and flaming in the thread? Jeez give the guys a break.


How is "no observer tech coming" ? Observers are right on the last after the expansion that you get (mind you a much faster one) when you find your opponent going 2fac. Fast DTs contains the terran, or atelast it should, plain and simple. Movie ended up running his DTs into preset mines because he didn't see the push.

You can defend and expand with 2fac vs DT but that puts you behind, as as soon as P spots that with his obs he can choose to either expand himself or gateway up on a stronger economy (2fac is not a strong economy woop).

The thing is, Movie went reavers so this is all moot on what typically happens in 2fac vs DTs.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 04 2010 05:49 GMT
#262
Maybe I should have been more clear:

If you get Dt rushed during 2 fact you know that you can safely expand because Obs will not be in time to help 1 or 2 goons clear the minefield that you'll lay at your nat. Likewise you can go on the offensive because toss won't have obs up in time to stop you from mining up his nat also.

Fast DT is not always going to contain Terran and that's a bad assumption to make. If mines get laid you can't contain a Terran with Dark Templars. It's damn near impossible especially at the pro level.

And yes of course a Protoss can choose to expand again, and once again we're back to a timing push to punish Protoss but now we're going off track
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Shinshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1237 Posts
August 04 2010 07:51 GMT
#263
On August 04 2010 14:24 BisuDagger wrote:
What was the chatting stuff about. Did calm and terror chat in game or talk trash before hand?

They're exteam mates so it was a friendly chat in game and before hand as they know each other. Similar thing happened in Leta vs Sea yesterday
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