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Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 07:14:29
July 17 2010 07:12 GMT
#841
On July 17 2010 16:10 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 16:09 moopie wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 flamewheel wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:
MBCheese imo

Wasn't Baby the one who tried to proxy?

That was light

That was light in the last game. This game baby attempted a proxy rax that was scouted.

Oh well, still 2 hatch ling is cheese, 8rax or not.
(You guys should feel guilty for not watching skyhigh vs fantasy though)


? How on earth is that cheese? It's a natural response to failed 8rax proxy into fast expand above all else. Even if Baby had by some miracle held that off, he'd have had to deal with mutas (as the spire was almost finished).
Volshok
Profile Joined August 2008
United States349 Posts
July 17 2010 07:13 GMT
#842
Why would you send out a slumping BaBy for ACE? Makes me rage so hard.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123657
kassi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
July 17 2010 07:13 GMT
#843
Oh baby... I hope he's not permanently scarred from this. Gah. Seriously why'd they put him out?

But on the other hand, omg MBC won. Hyungjoon came back in the form of Hyun so all was good. =D
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
July 17 2010 07:14 GMT
#844
Still can't get over that loss.

Bleh.

This isn't really good momentum-wise for the 2nd game of the series...
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
July 17 2010 07:15 GMT
#845
there is nothing that makes me happier than watching a cheesing, greedy player get punished hard. baby will probably go into a permanent slump now
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 07:15:36
July 17 2010 07:15 GMT
#846
I really should go to sleep... and I don't understand korean - but I am waiting for Sea to talk; omg hes talking now. <3
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
JChen
Profile Joined July 2009
United States48 Posts
July 17 2010 07:15 GMT
#847
I hope MBC gives some shout outs to Hyungjoon in the interview!
I feel like MBC really bloomed during the HJ series, (although thats probably cuz of the show)
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
July 17 2010 07:15 GMT
#848
I still fail to understand why Terrans don't wall off in front of their expo better. Would easily prevent ling runbys, etc.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 17 2010 07:15 GMT
#849
I really hope Hyungjoon goes to one of the games..it would be awesome :D.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 07:17:52
July 17 2010 07:17 GMT
#850
On July 17 2010 16:12 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 16:10 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:09 moopie wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 flamewheel wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:
MBCheese imo

Wasn't Baby the one who tried to proxy?

That was light

That was light in the last game. This game baby attempted a proxy rax that was scouted.

Oh well, still 2 hatch ling is cheese, 8rax or not.
(You guys should feel guilty for not watching skyhigh vs fantasy though)

That 2hatch ling was cheese? seriously?

Okay, first of all, it was a ling heavy 2hatch muta. Mutas were coming. Second of all, Baby tried to cheese and hyun scouted it, so baby was quite far behind no matter way. Anything would have been strong. Third of all, Baby tried to EXPO after that, he had barely anything. Hyun simply made units and went "oh he's trying to be greedy now? guess I'll punish him for it".

My definition of cheese: You exploit a timing which the opponent gives you, if you get scouted youre most likely gonna fail.
And most importantly, tell me how a 2hatch muta ling heavy play isnt fucking cheese. Ever seen someone play out standard after it unless doing damage? No? Who wouldve thought so.
The korean definition is more accurate; "Strategic play". Hyun mightve planned something out, but no matter how you turn it, 2 hatch mutaling is motherfucking cheese, gonna tell me that what nony did to idra in the finals wasnt cheese? He just knew the opening and how to counter it.
Now get off it, not denying that it's right thing Hyun did.
Was still cheese they won with.
In the woods, there lurks..
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
July 17 2010 07:18 GMT
#851
On July 17 2010 16:17 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 16:12 Grobyc wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:10 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:09 moopie wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 flamewheel wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:
MBCheese imo

Wasn't Baby the one who tried to proxy?

That was light

That was light in the last game. This game baby attempted a proxy rax that was scouted.

Oh well, still 2 hatch ling is cheese, 8rax or not.
(You guys should feel guilty for not watching skyhigh vs fantasy though)

That 2hatch ling was cheese? seriously?

Okay, first of all, it was a ling heavy 2hatch muta. Mutas were coming. Second of all, Baby tried to cheese and hyun scouted it, so baby was quite far behind no matter way. Anything would have been strong. Third of all, Baby tried to EXPO after that, he had barely anything. Hyun simply made units and went "oh he's trying to be greedy now? guess I'll punish him for it".

My definition of cheese: You exploit a timing which the opponent gives you, if you get scouted youre most likely gonna fail.
And most importantly, tell me how a 2hatch muta ling heavy play isnt fucking cheese. Ever seen someone play out standard after it unless doing damage? No? Who wouldve thought so.
The korean definition is more accurate; "Strategic play". Hyun mightve planned something out, but no matter how you turn it, 2 hatch mutaling is motherfucking cheese, gonna tell me that what nony did to idra in the finals wasnt cheese? He just knew the opening and how to counter it.
Now get off it, not denying that it's right thing Hyun did.
Was still cheese they won with.

Do you play Starcraft?
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Neo7
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States922 Posts
July 17 2010 07:18 GMT
#852
On July 17 2010 16:15 teamsolid wrote:
I still fail to understand why Terrans don't wall off in front of their expo better. Would easily prevent ling runbys, etc.


I saw the resources in the playback. Baby didn't have enough to build the wall fast enough.
It takes an idiot to do cool things.
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 07:24:24
July 17 2010 07:19 GMT
#853
On July 17 2010 16:18 Valentine wrote:
My definition of cheese: You exploit a timing which the opponent gives you


As opposed to punshing someone for being very greedy... right...

On July 17 2010 16:18 Valentine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 16:17 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:12 Grobyc wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:10 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:09 moopie wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 flamewheel wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:
MBCheese imo

Wasn't Baby the one who tried to proxy?

That was light

That was light in the last game. This game baby attempted a proxy rax that was scouted.

Oh well, still 2 hatch ling is cheese, 8rax or not.
(You guys should feel guilty for not watching skyhigh vs fantasy though)

That 2hatch ling was cheese? seriously?

Okay, first of all, it was a ling heavy 2hatch muta. Mutas were coming. Second of all, Baby tried to cheese and hyun scouted it, so baby was quite far behind no matter way. Anything would have been strong. Third of all, Baby tried to EXPO after that, he had barely anything. Hyun simply made units and went "oh he's trying to be greedy now? guess I'll punish him for it".

My definition of cheese: You exploit a timing which the opponent gives you, if you get scouted youre most likely gonna fail.
And most importantly, tell me how a 2hatch muta ling heavy play isnt fucking cheese. Ever seen someone play out standard after it unless doing damage? No? Who wouldve thought so.
The korean definition is more accurate; "Strategic play". Hyun mightve planned something out, but no matter how you turn it, 2 hatch mutaling is motherfucking cheese, gonna tell me that what nony did to idra in the finals wasnt cheese? He just knew the opening and how to counter it.
Now get off it, not denying that it's right thing Hyun did.
Was still cheese they won with.

Do you play Starcraft?

InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
July 17 2010 07:19 GMT
#854
I'm okay with it because it's nice to sea Hyun and Sea smile. The problem is that FOX's two workhorses (Baby and Roro) are pretty burnt out...
... Knowmsayin'?
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
July 17 2010 07:20 GMT
#855
Nice balls of steel Hyun!

Gg MBC, I am not disappoint ^^
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
July 17 2010 07:20 GMT
#856
Is this a Bo2 with an extra Ace match if needed, or was this Bo7 it? Hyun really did a good job with that scout.
On the 6th day JF made Reavers and on the 7th day JF put his opponent to rest
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
July 17 2010 07:20 GMT
#857
On July 17 2010 16:19 Masheyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 16:18 Valentine wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:17 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:12 Grobyc wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:10 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:09 moopie wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 flamewheel wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:
MBCheese imo

Wasn't Baby the one who tried to proxy?

That was light

That was light in the last game. This game baby attempted a proxy rax that was scouted.

Oh well, still 2 hatch ling is cheese, 8rax or not.
(You guys should feel guilty for not watching skyhigh vs fantasy though)

That 2hatch ling was cheese? seriously?

Okay, first of all, it was a ling heavy 2hatch muta. Mutas were coming. Second of all, Baby tried to cheese and hyun scouted it, so baby was quite far behind no matter way. Anything would have been strong. Third of all, Baby tried to EXPO after that, he had barely anything. Hyun simply made units and went "oh he's trying to be greedy now? guess I'll punish him for it".

My definition of cheese: You exploit a timing which the opponent gives you, if you get scouted youre most likely gonna fail.
And most importantly, tell me how a 2hatch muta ling heavy play isnt fucking cheese. Ever seen someone play out standard after it unless doing damage? No? Who wouldve thought so.
The korean definition is more accurate; "Strategic play". Hyun mightve planned something out, but no matter how you turn it, 2 hatch mutaling is motherfucking cheese, gonna tell me that what nony did to idra in the finals wasnt cheese? He just knew the opening and how to counter it.
Now get off it, not denying that it's right thing Hyun did.
Was still cheese they won with.

Do you play Starcraft?



I will quote this to hopefully tell you that it was (or at least, should be) standard reaction to put enormous pressure and most likely, win.
Stuck.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
July 17 2010 07:20 GMT
#858
On July 17 2010 16:20 OminouS wrote:
Is this a Bo2 with an extra Ace match if needed, or was this Bo7 it? Hyun really did a good job with that scout.


Bo3 of Bo7s
Stuck.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 17 2010 07:21 GMT
#859
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 17 2010 16:18 Valentine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 16:17 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:12 Grobyc wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:10 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:09 moopie wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 flamewheel wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:
MBCheese imo

Wasn't Baby the one who tried to proxy?

That was light

That was light in the last game. This game baby attempted a proxy rax that was scouted.

Oh well, still 2 hatch ling is cheese, 8rax or not.
(You guys should feel guilty for not watching skyhigh vs fantasy though)

That 2hatch ling was cheese? seriously?

Okay, first of all, it was a ling heavy 2hatch muta. Mutas were coming. Second of all, Baby tried to cheese and hyun scouted it, so baby was quite far behind no matter way. Anything would have been strong. Third of all, Baby tried to EXPO after that, he had barely anything. Hyun simply made units and went "oh he's trying to be greedy now? guess I'll punish him for it".

My definition of cheese: You exploit a timing which the opponent gives you, if you get scouted youre most likely gonna fail.
And most importantly, tell me how a 2hatch muta ling heavy play isnt fucking cheese. Ever seen someone play out standard after it unless doing damage? No? Who wouldve thought so.
The korean definition is more accurate; "Strategic play". Hyun mightve planned something out, but no matter how you turn it, 2 hatch mutaling is motherfucking cheese, gonna tell me that what nony did to idra in the finals wasnt cheese? He just knew the opening and how to counter it.
Now get off it, not denying that it's right thing Hyun did.
Was still cheese they won with.

Do you play Starcraft?

So Hyun wouldve been totally fine if Baby held it off?
Do I really have to answer that?
In the woods, there lurks..
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 17 2010 07:22 GMT
#860
On July 17 2010 16:21 Iplaythings wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 17 2010 16:18 Valentine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 16:17 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:12 Grobyc wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:10 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:09 moopie wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:08 flamewheel wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:07 Iplaythings wrote:
MBCheese imo

Wasn't Baby the one who tried to proxy?

That was light

That was light in the last game. This game baby attempted a proxy rax that was scouted.

Oh well, still 2 hatch ling is cheese, 8rax or not.
(You guys should feel guilty for not watching skyhigh vs fantasy though)

That 2hatch ling was cheese? seriously?

Okay, first of all, it was a ling heavy 2hatch muta. Mutas were coming. Second of all, Baby tried to cheese and hyun scouted it, so baby was quite far behind no matter way. Anything would have been strong. Third of all, Baby tried to EXPO after that, he had barely anything. Hyun simply made units and went "oh he's trying to be greedy now? guess I'll punish him for it".

My definition of cheese: You exploit a timing which the opponent gives you, if you get scouted youre most likely gonna fail.
And most importantly, tell me how a 2hatch muta ling heavy play isnt fucking cheese. Ever seen someone play out standard after it unless doing damage? No? Who wouldve thought so.
The korean definition is more accurate; "Strategic play". Hyun mightve planned something out, but no matter how you turn it, 2 hatch mutaling is motherfucking cheese, gonna tell me that what nony did to idra in the finals wasnt cheese? He just knew the opening and how to counter it.
Now get off it, not denying that it's right thing Hyun did.
Was still cheese they won with.

Do you play Starcraft?

So Hyun wouldve been totally fine if Baby held it off?
Do I really have to answer that?


Yes please answer that I feel like reading some humor.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
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