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Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
July 17 2010 08:37 GMT
#881
lol, what is up with players slumping balls after running in to Jaedong...
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 17 2010 08:41 GMT
#882
On July 17 2010 17:37 Cpadolf wrote:
lol, what is up with players slumping balls after running in to Jaedong...

Getting raped by Jaedong can be devastating if you get completely owned, especially when you don't expect to lose.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 17 2010 09:10 GMT
#883
On July 17 2010 17:29 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 16:23 JohnColtrane wrote:
tvz is turning into a fucking joke. roro didnt play bad at all and sea did nothing special at all and still raped him. im glad to see some toss like snow and stats giving it to zergs in pvz though


Seriously what the fuck is this. We so casually say "X doesn't have good ZvT" but right now who the fuck DOES have good ZvT other than Jaedong Action and (somewhat) Effort?


action will still get raped by the top terran players, effort usually too

the only person id back to win a zvt against someone like light is jaedong, the same way as the only protoss id back to beat a top zerg is bisu

imo bring yarnc back
HEY MEYT
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 17 2010 09:30 GMT
#884
On July 17 2010 17:37 Cpadolf wrote:
lol, what is up with players slumping balls after running in to Jaedong...

It's hard to play with a buttache.
GANDHISAUCE
serenidite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)505 Posts
July 17 2010 10:10 GMT
#885
On July 17 2010 18:10 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 17:29 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:23 JohnColtrane wrote:
tvz is turning into a fucking joke. roro didnt play bad at all and sea did nothing special at all and still raped him. im glad to see some toss like snow and stats giving it to zergs in pvz though


Seriously what the fuck is this. We so casually say "X doesn't have good ZvT" but right now who the fuck DOES have good ZvT other than Jaedong Action and (somewhat) Effort?


action will still get raped by the top terran players, effort usually too

the only person id back to win a zvt against someone like light is jaedong, the same way as the only protoss id back to beat a top zerg is bisu

imo bring yarnc back

i'd say that effort/calm/kwanro/zero have a good shot at taking down light :/
" Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
July 17 2010 10:16 GMT
#886
coach: "hyun, just do the same stuff as effort vs flash in game 5."
hyun: "but its a known strategy, probably got analyzed and hard countered by now."
coach: "if flash couldnt stop it, nobody can. ever."

and so it was.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 10:37:41
July 17 2010 10:36 GMT
#887
On July 17 2010 19:10 serenidite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 18:10 JohnColtrane wrote:
On July 17 2010 17:29 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:23 JohnColtrane wrote:
tvz is turning into a fucking joke. roro didnt play bad at all and sea did nothing special at all and still raped him. im glad to see some toss like snow and stats giving it to zergs in pvz though


Seriously what the fuck is this. We so casually say "X doesn't have good ZvT" but right now who the fuck DOES have good ZvT other than Jaedong Action and (somewhat) Effort?


action will still get raped by the top terran players, effort usually too

the only person id back to win a zvt against someone like light is jaedong, the same way as the only protoss id back to beat a top zerg is bisu

imo bring yarnc back

i'd say that effort/calm/kwanro/zero have a good shot at taking down light :/


a good shot being what %? i dont think id rate any of them except maybe zero on a good streak above 25%

what % would you rate protosses apart from bisu taking down jaedong ?
HEY MEYT
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
July 17 2010 11:00 GMT
#888
argh Baby has been losing A LOT lately.... C'mon Wemade! You're the better team get your stuff together Baby!
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
serenidite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)505 Posts
July 17 2010 11:00 GMT
#889
On July 17 2010 19:36 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 19:10 serenidite wrote:
On July 17 2010 18:10 JohnColtrane wrote:
On July 17 2010 17:29 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:23 JohnColtrane wrote:
tvz is turning into a fucking joke. roro didnt play bad at all and sea did nothing special at all and still raped him. im glad to see some toss like snow and stats giving it to zergs in pvz though


Seriously what the fuck is this. We so casually say "X doesn't have good ZvT" but right now who the fuck DOES have good ZvT other than Jaedong Action and (somewhat) Effort?


action will still get raped by the top terran players, effort usually too

the only person id back to win a zvt against someone like light is jaedong, the same way as the only protoss id back to beat a top zerg is bisu

imo bring yarnc back

i'd say that effort/calm/kwanro/zero have a good shot at taking down light :/


a good shot being what %? i dont think id rate any of them except maybe zero on a good streak above 25%

what % would you rate protosses apart from bisu taking down jaedong ?

well in calm and kwanro's current form they'd get wrecked but...
effort and zero i would give them .. a 40+% chance of taking a bo5

lol. NO P has a chance vs jaedong . that would be like asking what Z aside from jd has a chance vs Flash
" Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
July 17 2010 11:11 GMT
#890
On July 17 2010 20:00 serenidite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 19:36 JohnColtrane wrote:
On July 17 2010 19:10 serenidite wrote:
On July 17 2010 18:10 JohnColtrane wrote:
On July 17 2010 17:29 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:23 JohnColtrane wrote:
tvz is turning into a fucking joke. roro didnt play bad at all and sea did nothing special at all and still raped him. im glad to see some toss like snow and stats giving it to zergs in pvz though


Seriously what the fuck is this. We so casually say "X doesn't have good ZvT" but right now who the fuck DOES have good ZvT other than Jaedong Action and (somewhat) Effort?


action will still get raped by the top terran players, effort usually too

the only person id back to win a zvt against someone like light is jaedong, the same way as the only protoss id back to beat a top zerg is bisu

imo bring yarnc back

i'd say that effort/calm/kwanro/zero have a good shot at taking down light :/


a good shot being what %? i dont think id rate any of them except maybe zero on a good streak above 25%

what % would you rate protosses apart from bisu taking down jaedong ?

well in calm and kwanro's current form they'd get wrecked but...
effort and zero i would give them .. a 40+% chance of taking a bo5

lol. NO P has a chance vs jaedong . that would be like asking what Z aside from jd has a chance vs Flash

Well the obvious one is effort
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
July 17 2010 11:21 GMT
#891
Don't complain about imbalance. Zergs know it's there, but we don't want to turn into protoss players.
sAviOr...
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 17 2010 11:32 GMT
#892
well its not like protoss players have it easy either. i just dont want sc to end up being T > Z and Z > P every game
HEY MEYT
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
July 17 2010 11:37 GMT
#893
woot, go MBC Hero!
go KHAN! TBLS <3
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 13:01:07
July 17 2010 12:04 GMT
#894
oh god, baby's last 11 games is 1-10. that's bad.
I remember someone telling baby is the next generation flash :p

edit: btw I'm not being asshole, I love TY and I know he has what it takes to get more wins.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
July 17 2010 13:04 GMT
#895
On July 17 2010 19:36 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 19:10 serenidite wrote:
On July 17 2010 18:10 JohnColtrane wrote:
On July 17 2010 17:29 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:23 JohnColtrane wrote:
tvz is turning into a fucking joke. roro didnt play bad at all and sea did nothing special at all and still raped him. im glad to see some toss like snow and stats giving it to zergs in pvz though


Seriously what the fuck is this. We so casually say "X doesn't have good ZvT" but right now who the fuck DOES have good ZvT other than Jaedong Action and (somewhat) Effort?


action will still get raped by the top terran players, effort usually too

the only person id back to win a zvt against someone like light is jaedong, the same way as the only protoss id back to beat a top zerg is bisu

imo bring yarnc back

i'd say that effort/calm/kwanro/zero have a good shot at taking down light :/


a good shot being what %? i dont think id rate any of them except maybe zero on a good streak above 25%

what % would you rate protosses apart from bisu taking down jaedong ?


kwanro knocked light out of out nate msl 3-0 :p

i would rate stork 50% against jaedong... and i think they are about even atm anyways
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
July 17 2010 13:30 GMT
#896
On July 17 2010 18:10 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 17:29 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:23 JohnColtrane wrote:
tvz is turning into a fucking joke. roro didnt play bad at all and sea did nothing special at all and still raped him. im glad to see some toss like snow and stats giving it to zergs in pvz though


Seriously what the fuck is this. We so casually say "X doesn't have good ZvT" but right now who the fuck DOES have good ZvT other than Jaedong Action and (somewhat) Effort?


action will still get raped by the top terran players, effort usually too

the only person id back to win a zvt against someone like light is jaedong, the same way as the only protoss id back to beat a top zerg is bisu

imo bring yarnc back


Exactly, no Zerg can win a ZvT for shit these days.I have to say its more than just the player atm
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
July 17 2010 14:07 GMT
#897
On July 17 2010 22:04 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 19:36 JohnColtrane wrote:
On July 17 2010 19:10 serenidite wrote:
On July 17 2010 18:10 JohnColtrane wrote:
On July 17 2010 17:29 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:23 JohnColtrane wrote:
tvz is turning into a fucking joke. roro didnt play bad at all and sea did nothing special at all and still raped him. im glad to see some toss like snow and stats giving it to zergs in pvz though


Seriously what the fuck is this. We so casually say "X doesn't have good ZvT" but right now who the fuck DOES have good ZvT other than Jaedong Action and (somewhat) Effort?


action will still get raped by the top terran players, effort usually too

the only person id back to win a zvt against someone like light is jaedong, the same way as the only protoss id back to beat a top zerg is bisu

imo bring yarnc back

i'd say that effort/calm/kwanro/zero have a good shot at taking down light :/


a good shot being what %? i dont think id rate any of them except maybe zero on a good streak above 25%

what % would you rate protosses apart from bisu taking down jaedong ?


kwanro knocked light out of out nate msl 3-0 :p

i would rate stork 50% against jaedong... and i think they are about even atm anyways


yeah but those days are gone last time they played light mauled him

id probably rate bisu 50% against jd atm, maybe a bit lower if they are both playing at their peak. stork is definitely good, but i wouldnt rate him as high as bisu
HEY MEYT
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 17 2010 14:32 GMT
#898
On July 17 2010 23:07 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 22:04 saltywet wrote:
On July 17 2010 19:36 JohnColtrane wrote:
On July 17 2010 19:10 serenidite wrote:
On July 17 2010 18:10 JohnColtrane wrote:
On July 17 2010 17:29 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 17 2010 16:23 JohnColtrane wrote:
tvz is turning into a fucking joke. roro didnt play bad at all and sea did nothing special at all and still raped him. im glad to see some toss like snow and stats giving it to zergs in pvz though


Seriously what the fuck is this. We so casually say "X doesn't have good ZvT" but right now who the fuck DOES have good ZvT other than Jaedong Action and (somewhat) Effort?


action will still get raped by the top terran players, effort usually too

the only person id back to win a zvt against someone like light is jaedong, the same way as the only protoss id back to beat a top zerg is bisu

imo bring yarnc back

i'd say that effort/calm/kwanro/zero have a good shot at taking down light :/


a good shot being what %? i dont think id rate any of them except maybe zero on a good streak above 25%

what % would you rate protosses apart from bisu taking down jaedong ?


kwanro knocked light out of out nate msl 3-0 :p

i would rate stork 50% against jaedong... and i think they are about even atm anyways


yeah but those days are gone last time they played light mauled him

id probably rate bisu 50% against jd atm, maybe a bit lower if they are both playing at their peak. stork is definitely good, but i wouldnt rate him as high as bisu

Pikachu will have his return next season of individual leagues and proleague.
In the woods, there lurks..
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
July 17 2010 15:03 GMT
#899
Wemade needs Baby to step up. He is a central pillar and the ace for that team. I was banking on him not going 0-2 for them to beat MBC... I mean, the roster WeMade fielded is pretty good. Stronger than the MBC line up on paper... a bit.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 17 2010 15:36 GMT
#900
whats going on with BaBy
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
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