On July 02 2010 19:00 Sadistx wrote: "How to lose with 100 supply advantage"
It was such an anticlimactic ending...some might say it was back and forth, I say it was fail on the losers part. Watch it only if you like the players
spoiler is spelled wrong in OP, which is why its not working under rec games, might want to fix. zero tries to snipe medics with lings, fails miserably but buys about 10 seconds for sunks and mutas
On July 02 2010 18:44 Chen wrote: spoiler is spelled wrong in OP, which is why its not working under rec games, might want to fix. zero tries to snipe medics with lings, fails miserably but buys about 10 seconds for sunks and mutas
yes, im editing the op right now, im going to put some more eye candy ^^
OMG! Triple TvZ Bo3s! Really will lose since his TvZ skill is abysmal. ForGG will win since he has uber TvZ skill. Hiya vs Shine is pretty meh. I don't care who wins anyway.
Action is the one i`m rooting for today.I don`t understand how his tvz appears to be his worst mu atleast statistics show that.I really love his zvt the most.
Well I barely recall good games from him recently anyway. And I was quite abashed by this PL set where he failed an early game timing attack vs sunkenless (or almost) nat then dying to 2 hatch muta without turrets. Didn't really expect him to do well today then.
really lost concentration there. was in such a good position but slipped off his multitasking. if he held six oclock expo, he would have won for sure. come on really, how did you let this one go
Nice use of plague on the mnm army. Zerglings force Really to life his cc again at his fourth. Really finally gets rid of lurkers at his third and resumes mining there.
Damn those ultras popped just in the nick of time to save zero. What a comeback for him. Really had this in the bag if he had secured his expo and killed that 1 lurker at 5 oclock
Nice game overall,Really played very well early to mid-game,but not securing two bases because of 3 lurkers really did it against him.Anyway good job by Zero to make a comeback.
On July 02 2010 19:05 dtnmang wrote: Really, Really? You make Fantasy's bio TvZ looks like a god's. You make Skyhigh still have something to be proud of his TvZ.
The part where he let Zero come back was real bad, but I think as a whole that game was way better than the average Fantasy/Skyhigh bio game.
On July 02 2010 19:05 dtnmang wrote: Really, Really? You make Fantasy's bio TvZ looks like a god's. You make Skyhigh still have something to be proud of his TvZ.
That was far better than any of Skyhigh's TvZs. Really has poor control, but he was strategically sound for a good part of the game until he started falling apart at the end.
On July 02 2010 19:05 dtnmang wrote: Really, Really? You make Fantasy's bio TvZ looks like a god's. You make Skyhigh still have something to be proud of his TvZ.
What are you talking about?Did you watch Skyhigh yesterday?He lost after he made unscouted proxy and couldn`t finish the game right away,not only that,but he lost like 3 mins late to 2 groups of zerglings,blowing away all the advantage he had.Really played quite good this game.Especially his management was very good,his decision making was the only thing that allowed Zero to make a comeback.
On July 02 2010 19:05 dtnmang wrote: Really, Really? You make Fantasy's bio TvZ looks like a god's. You make Skyhigh still have something to be proud of his TvZ.
What are you talking about?Did you watch Skyhigh yesterday?He lost after he made unscouted proxy and couldn`t finish the game right away,not only that,but he lost like 3 mins late to 2 groups of zerglings,blowing away all the advantage he had.Really played quite good this game.Especially his management was very good,his decision making was the only thing that allowed Zero to make a comeback.
И един мармот завива шоколада в станиол
Really got lazy after he got the advantage, he failed/choked/w/e, the game was his, he failed to win it therefore, he sucks
On July 02 2010 19:08 Shatter wrote: How can you even compare Fantasy to Skyhigh or Really? Fantasy is so much better on every level.
This is just not true... Fantasy is way better in some aspects, but Really's macro is way better than Fantasy's, and both Skyhigh and really are good at TvT.
On July 02 2010 19:36 Blind wrote: Could have been an accident. Sometimes I type gg but accidentally hit alt+q q before I press enter, so the other play never actually see the gg.
Except for the fact that I've never seen any other Korean progamer rage quit... ever.
On July 02 2010 19:36 Lann555 wrote: Really is on his way to getting one of the worst TvZ records amongst well known progamers. He might already be there to be honest.
On July 02 2010 19:36 Lann555 wrote: Really is on his way to getting one of the worst TvZ records amongst well known progamers. He might already be there to be honest.
On July 02 2010 19:36 Lann555 wrote: Really is on his way to getting one of the worst TvZ records amongst well known progamers. He might already be there to be honest.
Skyhigh?
Skyhigh has a much better win % and worst losing streak is only 5. He has also beaten much better zergs then Really who has only beaten TWO zergs who have an overall winrate of 50% or higher. Half of Really's wins come from guys like Hyuk, Killer, Peace, Chavi and Shark
edit: he actually beat Shine and Type-B multiple times who are < 50%, but still semi-decent overall
ForGG vs Action has some lopsided match potential... Action has trouble surviving till hive, while ForGG likes to do timed attacks before Hive because he's not that great against it -_-
On July 02 2010 19:36 Lann555 wrote: Really is on his way to getting one of the worst TvZ records amongst well known progamers. He might already be there to be honest.
Skyhigh?
skyhigh has a pretty decent record vZ. Just as of late he has been doing terrible vZ.
On July 02 2010 19:40 Waxangel wrote: ForGG vs Action has some lopsided match potential... Action has trouble surviving till hive, while ForGG likes to do timed attacks before Hive because he's not that great against it -_-
Yeah, and I expect ForGG to be well aware of Action's style and just bust him quickly twice.
On July 02 2010 19:40 Waxangel wrote: ForGG vs Action has some lopsided match potential... Action has trouble surviving till hive, while ForGG likes to do timed attacks before Hive because he's not that great against it -_-
On July 02 2010 19:40 Waxangel wrote: ForGG vs Action has some lopsided match potential... Action has trouble surviving till hive, while ForGG likes to do timed attacks before Hive because he's not that great against it -_-
damn true, lol
Actually Action has a potential to lose a late game to some misscorged drop
On July 02 2010 19:40 Waxangel wrote: ForGG vs Action has some lopsided match potential... Action has trouble surviving till hive, while ForGG likes to do timed attacks before Hive because he's not that great against it -_-
Yeah, and I expect ForGG to be well aware of Action's style and just bust him quickly twice.
Yes, lots hope for two quick games so we can watch the baller HiyA sooner! ^_^
On July 02 2010 19:40 Waxangel wrote: ForGG vs Action has some lopsided match potential... Action has trouble surviving till hive, while ForGG likes to do timed attacks before Hive because he's not that great against it -_-
Yeah, and I expect ForGG to be well aware of Action's style and just bust him quickly twice.
Yes, lots hope for two quick games so we can watch the baller HiyA sooner! ^_^
Lol, Hiya vs Shine will be ugly ugly games. Should be easy for Hiya though
Haha, Terrans are like zombies, so I thought Action would die after failing to kill forGG outright, but forGG's goliath counter dies to sunkens/drone surround.
Man, that mismicro when he was trying to get the goliaths past the sunkens probably cost him the game.
Surprised he gg'ed when he did though. I know he was in bad shape, but he had 7 goliaths in his base. That's enough to hold off mutas to some extent, and action had a lousy economy too.
On July 02 2010 19:59 SimonB wrote: Surprised he gg'ed when he did though. I know he was in bad shape, but he had 7 goliaths in his base. That's enough to hold off mutas to some extent, and action had a lousy economy too.
Ehhhhh, it's really really hard to fight mutas without range. Action could just keep sniping 3-4 SCVs at a time and it was over. I doubt the upgrade was much over halfway done
the wind is shifting, somethings different in the air. I see it in the form of choices every where and I've been asleep a lifetime just to wake in time to find... the voice that has been speaking for me is no voice of mine! NOW YOU'VE JUST BEEN SPOKEN FOR ! NOW YOU'VE JUST BEEN SOLD ! my eyes fixated on the life I left behind, a puppet dreams of being human every time that a string gets pulled before you know, your dancin' to the lie of someone elses vision of the perfect waisted life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Totally one-dimensional. Your simplistic timings won't work against AKSHUN. They have your number now. Great to see Action not taking any chances there.
lawl. This is what I said in the PR comments about ForGG
I would be very surprised if ForGG didn't sweep Action tonight in their OSL Bo3 and I am pretty sure he is probably the best vZ sniper there is right now due to his ability to mix up his play and consistently use different all in's. lol.
OOPS. Anyways, nicely played by Action. Throwing off the timing attacker!
On July 02 2010 19:40 Waxangel wrote: ForGG vs Action has some lopsided match potential... Action has trouble surviving till hive, while ForGG likes to do timed attacks before Hive because he's not that great against it -_-
re-read this post after watching both games makes me lol
You never listen anymore when I give you tips And there's no speed like before in your finger tips You're trying hard not to show it But Ji Soo, Ji Soo I know it You've Lost That Timin' Feeling Oh that Timin' Feeling You've Lost That Timin' Feeling Now it's gone gone gone oh oh oh
I would be very surprised if ForGG didn't sweep Action tonight in their OSL Bo3 and I am pretty sure he is probably the best vZ sniper there is right now due to his ability to mix up his play and consistently use different all in's. lol.
OOPS. Anyways, nicely played by Action. Throwing off the timing attacker!
On July 02 2010 19:40 Waxangel wrote: ForGG vs Action has some lopsided match potential... Action has trouble surviving till hive, while ForGG likes to do timed attacks before Hive because he's not that great against it -_-
re-read this post after watching both games makes me lol
<3 Wax
Good god, there was some serious role-reversal going on tonight -_-
On July 02 2010 20:20 Mortician wrote: quick, somebody link me to that kpop song, where the dude was singing "break ups to make ups make ups to break ups"
Please, HiyA, don't disappoint me like failGG did >.<'
On July 02 2010 20:25 Megalisk wrote: THERE WERE NO "PUSHES" IT WAS A FUCKING ZERGLING ATTACK GRAGAAAAGHAGHAGHAGAHAH
stop trolling, Action showed a great understanding of the metagame by using that timing push
Fuuuck hahaha. METAGAME always gets me. Everytime I see it, I can't stop laughing. Even if its used correctly lol.
honestly I think that some of the uses that Chill called wrong are good uses of the word, but since he + a lot of other Teamliquidians seem to have agreed that it should never be used as a noun I've had to keep it out of my vocabulary when making serious posts =(
On July 02 2010 20:25 Megalisk wrote: THERE WERE NO "PUSHES" IT WAS A FUCKING ZERGLING ATTACK GRAGAAAAGHAGHAGHAGAHAH
stop trolling, Action showed a great understanding of the metagame by using that timing push
Fuuuck hahaha. METAGAME always gets me. Everytime I see it, I can't stop laughing. Even if its used correctly lol.
honestly I think that some of the uses that Chill called wrong are good uses of the word, but since he + a lot of other Teamliquidians seem to have agreed that it should never be used as a noun I've had to keep it out of my vocabulary when making serious posts =(
Metagame is a perfectly good word. Not sure what all the hate is about. Here's a hint guys, if people know what you mean when you use a word then the usage is "correct". Just like people complaining whenever someone uses the word irony in a way that doesn't fit some rigid dictionary definition. Language is a living thing and not something set in stone. Deal with it.
I was just watching this game with one eye, can someone tell me what the fuck Shine was doing? Every time I watched he had like 1000 gas, and I don't see how that is possible. Even I with my horrible, horrible macro get frustrated whenever I play Zerg because I'm always too low on gas.
On July 02 2010 20:25 Megalisk wrote: THERE WERE NO "PUSHES" IT WAS A FUCKING ZERGLING ATTACK GRAGAAAAGHAGHAGHAGAHAH
stop trolling, Action showed a great understanding of the metagame by using that timing push
Fuuuck hahaha. METAGAME always gets me. Everytime I see it, I can't stop laughing. Even if its used correctly lol.
honestly I think that some of the uses that Chill called wrong are good uses of the word, but since he + a lot of other Teamliquidians seem to have agreed that it should never be used as a noun I've had to keep it out of my vocabulary when making serious posts =(
Metagame is a perfectly good word. Not sure what all the hate is about. Here's a hint guys, if people know what you mean when you use a word then the usage is "correct". Just like people complaining whenever someone uses the word irony in a way that doesn't fit some rigid dictionary definition. Language is a living thing and not something set in stone. Deal with it.
pretty entertaining game to be honest. Had shine had better macro, he really could have won this, so much gas stockpiled. Shine did a pretty good job of defending against drops, but that 3 dropship drop on the main really did too much damage.
Shine just can't stop attacking can he? Even it means losing all of his expansions. Jesus what is wrong with this kid. He's like a terrible version of Kwanro.
On July 02 2010 21:22 De4ngus wrote: Shine just can't stop attacking can he? Even it means losing all of his expansions. Jesus what is wrong with this kid. He's like a terrible version of Kwanro.
exactly. I like kwanro super agressive play. Shine on other hand uses the super dumb head in to wall play
On July 02 2010 21:22 De4ngus wrote: Shine just can't stop attacking can he? Even it means losing all of his expansions. Jesus what is wrong with this kid. He's like a terrible version of Kwanro.
exactly. I like kwanro super agressive play. Shine on other hand uses the super dumb head in to wall play
Kwanro isn't one bit better. I remember some game on Odd-Eye where he scouted a bazillion bunkers at the T's choke and still decided it would be a good idea to move in with a few lurks and a handful of lings. They're both non-thinking retards.
On July 02 2010 21:22 De4ngus wrote: Shine just can't stop attacking can he? Even it means losing all of his expansions. Jesus what is wrong with this kid. He's like a terrible version of Kwanro.
exactly. I like kwanro super agressive play. Shine on other hand uses the super dumb head in to wall play
Kwanro isn't one bit better. I remember some game on Odd-Eye where he scouted a bazillion bunkers at the T's choke and still decided it would be a good idea to move in with a few lurks and a handful of lings. They're both non-thinking retards.
I know, I remember when he played flash and decided to play minesweep with ultras, losing a MAJOR advantage by being unable to think. But at least, he's more skilled and perform some entertaining game
shine on other hand is much less skilled, i remember a game he won by just a-moving and making mutas against stork (when stork was ridiculous stubborn to play safe)
I like how action completely changed up his strategies for today's games. Forgg was probably expecting Action's typical 3 hatch - hive tech style but Action played aggressive instead. Action might have good defiler control but he was in danger of becoming too predictable. Now he'll have the terrans guessing again.
On July 02 2010 23:50 Kenpachi wrote: Really can die. you fucking eliminated Snow..
Nobody ever expected Really to get past Zero anyway. Knowing that Zero 2-0 Really without looking at the spoilers is a matter of common sense.
Well, zero can be pretty unpredictable- after all he almost lost game one. I think Really really lost it for himself by being too aggressive after taking out Zero's 2 o clock and not cleaning up his own 3rd and 4th.
Blah this sucks. I watched the first two groups play and all the matches were soooooo terribad, but fell asleep before the last group played which apparently were the only good matches... >.< Oh well.
Really:s TvT is S-class and his TvP is almost there too. But his TvZ is just plain awful and he doesn't deserve to advance if he doesn't shape up his TvZ matchup. There are only good things with ZerO advancing in OSL.
Action yeah!
Shine is out. Very good news! Shine now go and cry to RorO.
I think Really has said that his TvZ is so good during practice that he doesn't see how he could improve besides just learning to calm down and play to the best of his ability. Not sure why one matchup would consistently give him trouble under those circumstances but those are his feelings on it.
On July 03 2010 02:35 McDonalds wrote: I think Really has said that his TvZ is so good during practice that he doesn't see how he could improve besides just learning to calm down and play to the best of his ability. Not sure why one matchup would consistently give him trouble under those circumstances but those are his feelings on it.
There's a Really vs Action rep in the replay section where Really plays godlike TvZ.
On July 02 2010 22:15 L0thar wrote: Hmm, is Dreamliner really that shitty map for TvZ?
No, Really just sucks and Hiya got allined. Just look at zerg's third gas. It's screaming "HI COME KILL ME." No ramp or choke to guard with lurkers. Just wide open on two sides.
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you can still do it! you are my hero!!!!!!
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