On June 28 2010 19:11 OneOther wrote: i guess im just more lenient players when they lose. especially for guys like flash who have so pressure being the leader of his team and preparing for both msl/osl. in my opinion, he doesn't deserve to be called "slumping" yet. but if u want to consider anything less than winning 90% "slumping," feel free. however, he needs to lose over an extended period of time to be considered "slumping." give him some time until individual leagues / proleague playoffs.
If he goes <50% in individual leagues as well, then I believe we can call slump. Until then, only proleague performance isn't a total indicator of a slump. I guess i'm agreeing with you
yeah, that's what im saying. don't make the word "slumping" lose its meaning by calling a guy going 50-50 in past 9 games "slumping." jesus. and that was only a week after wining the osl title.
What? He's 4-6 in his last 10.
5-5 until tonight's game, which i forgot to count. so 5-6. does this matter? no lol. saying a guy going roughly 50% in a sample size of 10 games is slumping..hahahah. what has this world come to
5-6 would be last 11 games? He's 4-6, period, and has lost every ace match. He's also playing worse -- even if his opponents are playing better, he's been playing worse, too. 40% winrate for this month is bad. Going from FLASH to Killer in terms of winrate and ace match performance is pretty abysmal.
edit -- call it a minislump since it's only one month if you want but the drop in quality of most of his games and winrate is slump proportion.
see, i guess that's we differ. i don't really think that flash is playing worse in terms of actual games. also, what's the point of saying 4-6 out of 10 instead of 5-6 out of 11 when we are talking about his proleague games of this month? we are randomly going to exclude his win? but i guess this speaks to what im saying though, seeing how much one game drops his winning percentage - due to a very small sample size over a short period of time. why can't we just say "flash is not playing as incredible as he was couple weeks ago when he was winning 90% of his games?" nobody is slumping here.
I'm a pretty big Flash apologist but I can't just waive how badly he's been messing up in some games. It's not like six ace matches in a row is some irrelevant statistic. It's dismissive to say "He's just not winning 90% of his games" -- that could mean a lot. Winning 70% of his games qualifies just as much as 40% or 0%.
Also last 10 games isn't an arbitrary metric -- well maybe it is but it is a widely used and accepted arbitrary metric.
whatever, this isn't even worth arguing over. some of you just have ridiculous standards/definition of slumping. i like to reserve that word for players who are truly slumping. and this is based on not only the statistics but how they are playing in the games - i have watched all of his games and he is playing fine. very tight matches against solid players who prepared specifically for flash. so yeah, im gonna go to watch this game in fullscreen and go to sleep ggs