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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 27 2010 10:56 GMT
#561
The TL:DR version of this match is pretty much:

Violet expos to 8 expos while hiya sits in on 3 massing tanks. Hiya finally moves out of his base for the first time at 17 minutes, with a massive terran ball (insert "imba" comments here), begins sieging Violet's nat and other expos, establishes map control, takes a 4th expo at 3 oclock.

Violet loses some expos, but still outproduces Hiya by 2-4x at any point during the match.

Eventually, Hiya's massive army breaks down (piece by piece), and is unable to be rebuilt at the same speed that Violet's forces are able to tear it down. Hiya loses map control.

Hiya loses his last mining expo.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 27 2010 10:56 GMT
#562
On April 27 2010 19:54 SuperArc wrote:
Violet seriously has no skills.

All he can do is build templars and press storm.

Holgerius, how can you like Violet and hate Movie? They are like twins.


Pretty useful skill to have. Won Violet the game and KT the series.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 27 2010 10:56 GMT
#563
On April 27 2010 19:56 phosphorylation wrote:
toss is so imba
after such awful play, still manages to win

Really?

If anything TvP has been T sided as of late.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4735 Posts
April 27 2010 10:56 GMT
#564
On April 27 2010 19:53 Scaramanga wrote:
How the hell did violet come back and win, amazing


You just need a stubborn terran who refuses to expand and also refuses to kill key-expos with 10 gates (11 o'clock) when he has the chance.

Very good management and storms by Violet I think. But Hiya just fucked up.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 27 2010 10:57 GMT
#565
Yo, I heard storms are pretty good in PvT.

Better than timing kamikaze recalls into terran's bases before he has even moved out.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
losso
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Bulgaria158 Posts
April 27 2010 10:57 GMT
#566
On April 27 2010 19:55 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2010 19:54 SuperArc wrote:
Violet seriously has no skills.

All he can do is build templars and press storm.

Holgerius, how can you like Violet and hate Movie? They are like twins.

That sounds like a skill to me.



no it's just a useful talent toi have
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
April 27 2010 10:57 GMT
#567
Pretty weird strategy by hiya, some sloppy micro/macro in the late game by violet (still great storms though). Not the best of games.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
April 27 2010 10:57 GMT
#568
violet never "came back"
while his army might have been lost a few times in the game, he always had an overwhelming economic advantage and with his ~20 or more gates, allowed him to rebuild his armies instantly

only until late game when his bases started mining out was he in any sort of danger - but hiya also had very little resources at that time
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Plaaguu
Profile Joined April 2009
United States406 Posts
April 27 2010 10:57 GMT
#569
KT, I missed your 3-0 wins. It seems like it's been forever since you 3-0'd a team
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
April 27 2010 10:57 GMT
#570
As an Oz fan, I am very, very sad now. T_T
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
April 27 2010 10:57 GMT
#571
On April 27 2010 19:56 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2010 19:56 phosphorylation wrote:
toss is so imba
after such awful play, still manages to win

Really?

If anything TvP has been T sided as of late.


I don't know if I'd go that far.
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
April 27 2010 10:58 GMT
#572
On April 27 2010 19:54 SuperArc wrote:
Violet seriously has no skills.

All he can do is build templars and press storm.

Holgerius, how can you like Violet and hate Movie? They are like twins.


I believe they can do more than just build templar and press storm.
CJ Entusman #24
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
April 27 2010 10:58 GMT
#573
Violet could have done a better job saving his expansions, a lot of the Nexus that were destroyed was unnecessary. It took a while for Violet to break off Hiya's containment despite the fact that Violet had the macro to do it.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 27 2010 10:59 GMT
#574
I don't know if Hiya ever had the lead, but it was definitely close.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
DatTheMighty
Profile Joined March 2009
Vietnam122 Posts
April 27 2010 10:59 GMT
#575
guys hiya couldn't finish the game because hes never been in such a situation before. normally when terran rolls out protoss just dies. hiya was like "wtf why hasnt he ge ge yet".
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
April 27 2010 10:59 GMT
#576
On April 27 2010 19:56 below66 wrote:
its amazing how strong terrans come out mid-late-game push on 3 bases, i thought that protoss was dead for sure; hes a fighter

I honestly though Violet had it in the bank when he had 5-6 bases. But then that push came and it was soooo strong! Luckily, Violet handled himself great. Part of it is that Hiya isn't Flash. Flash would shut down 4 bases in 1minute and go for the main no matter what ^^
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 27 2010 11:00 GMT
#577
This game so reminded me of Nada vs Jangbi.

The way lesser skilled player comes through because of storms.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
April 27 2010 11:00 GMT
#578
On April 27 2010 19:54 SuperArc wrote:
Violet seriously has no skills.

All he can do is build templars and press storm.

Holgerius, how can you like Violet and hate Movie? They are like twins.


No skills?
Who are you?
mb Stork?
Show your skills pls and we compare
LOL

Great game Violet
Power is your Intelligence
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 27 2010 11:00 GMT
#579
and to the guy that said it's imba, you have it backwards, terran is and always will be the most imbalanced race due to the 3/3 strength/turtling/tanks
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
April 27 2010 11:01 GMT
#580
On April 27 2010 19:56 moopie wrote:
The TL:DR version of this match is pretty much:

Violet expos to 8 expos while hiya sits in on 3 massing tanks. Hiya finally moves out of his base for the first time at 17 minutes, with a massive terran ball (insert "imba" comments here), begins sieging Violet's nat and other expos, establishes map control, takes a 4th expo at 3 oclock.

Violet loses some expos, but still outproduces Hiya by 2-4x at any point during the match.

Eventually, Hiya's massive army breaks down (piece by piece), and is unable to be rebuilt at the same speed that Violet's forces are able to tear it down. Hiya loses map control.

Hiya loses his last mining expo.



Pretty good summation here.
CJ Entusman #24
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