On January 23 2010 02:48 piratebay wrote: if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?
Far from it.
actually, i'd say Flash comes close to the B-title if he rapes jaedong
How is flash not considered a bonjwa now? Only one of the bonjwas won two titles at one time and he didn't have the schedule that flash has now.... 2407 ELO, 2400 THREE times, 70% in all matchups, 22 TVT streak..... I think flash is a prebonjwa at least. All he needs to do is keep up this pace for a little longer. But especially if he beats JD, the second best player in history after winnning the MSL with ease then we can call him a bonjwa.
On January 23 2010 02:48 piratebay wrote: if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?
Far from it.
actually, i'd say Flash comes close to the B-title if he rapes jaedong
How is flash not considered a bonjwa now? Only one of the bonjwas won two titles at one time and he didn't have the schedule that flash has now.... 2407 ELO, 2400 THREE times, 70% in all matchups, 22 TVT streak..... I think flash is a prebonjwa at least. All he needs to do is keep up this pace for a little longer. But especially if he beats JD, the second best player in history after winnning the MSL with ease then we can call him a bonjwa.
On January 23 2010 02:48 piratebay wrote: if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?
Far from it.
actually, i'd say Flash comes close to the B-title if he rapes jaedong
How is flash not considered a bonjwa now? Only one of the bonjwas won two titles at one time and he didn't have the schedule that flash has now.... 2407 ELO, 2400 THREE times, 70% in all matchups, 22 TVT streak..... I think flash is a prebonjwa at least. All he needs to do is keep up this pace for a little longer. But especially if he beats JD, the second best player in history after winnning the MSL with ease then we can call him a bonjwa.
On January 23 2010 03:42 On_Slaught wrote: Flash has been GREAT for about 2 months. Lets wait a little before you start throwing around the B-word. JD is currently holding the highest ELO rank of all time against Z and P (flash has against T) and FLash is the undisputed bonjwa if he can beat JD in a bo5? I think not.
Right now JD is the best zerg and protoss killer of all time, statisically. Even if Flash can happen to beat him in a very tough MU for zerg, it doesn't instantly make Flash absorb all of JDs stats.
Plus, the MSL finals have yet to be played. We'll see.
Since you value ELO so much you should take a look at overall ELO and ELO peaks...
On January 23 2010 02:48 piratebay wrote: if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?
Far from it.
actually, i'd say Flash comes close to the B-title if he rapes jaedong
How is flash not considered a bonjwa now? Only one of the bonjwas won two titles at one time and he didn't have the schedule that flash has now.... 2407 ELO, 2400 THREE times, 70% in all matchups, 22 TVT streak..... I think flash is a prebonjwa at least. All he needs to do is keep up this pace for a little longer. But especially if he beats JD, the second best player in history after winnning the MSL with ease then we can call him a bonjwa.
Who is the best player in history?
By best I mean "the best skill wise" which is obviously flash. Flash is going up against JAEDONG.... And people are predicting flash to 3-1 him..... Even the commentators and bonjwaas are. That? Is what I call an aura of invincibility. I don't think anyone ever predicted to Savior would 3-0 or 3-1 Nada. Everyone expected him to win, but in a 3-2 close scrap.
The bonjwa talk will most likely resume after tomorrow. Let us talk about it AFTER Flash wins.
But what I will say is that Flash has achieved what Jaedong couldn't while Jaedong was at his peak, that is to have this aura of invincibility around him. Jaedong always had his Bisu.
Praying for 5 long and intense games. Interesting to see Jaedong is narrow favourite with the bookies which im a little suprised about given recent results.
On January 23 2010 04:07 dukethegold wrote: The bonjwa talk will most likely resume after tomorrow. Let us talk about it AFTER Flash wins.
But what I will say is that Flash has achieved what Jaedong couldn't while Jaedong was at his peak, that is to have this aura of invincibility around him. Jaedong always had his Bisu.
more like bisu always had his jaedong? back when bisu was the shit this time last year, the only player people werent sure he could beat was JD, then the "gom speacial match" happened.
sure JD lost a few games to bisu afterward, but I think everyone always believed JD the far superior player in a series.
OK, Flash: Greatest TvT of all times? Check (current Elo is better than any other Terran's, by a massive margin). Greatest TvZ of all times? Check (current Elo is better than any other Terran's, including streak oov!). Greatest TvP of all times? Check (current Elo is better than any other Terran's save oov's peak, but it's 30 points under his best, which is #1). Greatest vT of anyone in any race? Check (no one is even close, his current Elo is so far ahead of any competition it's scary). Highest Elo of all times? Check (and wow, by so much too). Deadliest player in the PL? Check (and by far, seriously - he's terrorizing the league). Brought his team to the #1 spot in the PL and kept it there? Check (and let's admit it, SKT, CJ and STX have a much deeper teams). OSL title? Check (and with ease despite a hard path to it).
After eliminating players with the highest probability for a snipe (BeSt with his super-macro oriented PvT and Kwanro with his hyper-aggression), a convincing MSL win over the greatest competition possible in a Bo5 (a streaking, well rested, extremely prepared and vengeful Jaedong) will clinch it.
On January 23 2010 04:32 shurgen wrote: I don't understand why people are so ready to call Flash bonjwa...
Jaedong has been THE BEST PLAYER for a LONG time now, and now that Flash has taken over for 2 months, he is bonjwa lol
What are you talking about? Flash has won TWO WHOLE STARLEAGUES! Obviously he is the best player ever! Wait, I'm doing this wrong. Starleague wins don't matter at all, Flash has the highest ELO, and since ELO is perfect and infallible it proves that FLASH is the BEST PLAYER EVER!
EPT
