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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 13

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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 22 2010 17:39 GMT
#241
On January 23 2010 02:29 konadora wrote:
Btw, I don't see anything wrong with the banner?

The vile, despicable, horrible jokes were removed.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
January 22 2010 17:41 GMT
#242
On January 22 2010 13:26 Guybrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 13:22 Ideas wrote:
On January 22 2010 12:54 Guybrush wrote:
Flash has history on his side.
Bonjwa Terrans in finals vs the best Zergs in their era.

Boxer > Yellow (OSL&MSL)
Nada > Chojja (OSL&MSL)
iloveoov > JulyZerg (OSL)

Im pretty pumped for this. Has to be the most anticipated final since Nada vs Savior or Oov vs July.

Im predicting 3-1 to Flash. Hoping 3-2 to Flash though, with a epic 5th game displaying skills far beyond our imagination


savior > nada? no?


Nada wasnt Bonjwa at that time. Savior was though


and flash aint no bonjwa right now so HAH!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
January 22 2010 17:43 GMT
#243
i cant believe you removed the quotes because 1 guy complained rofl
Free Palestine
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
January 22 2010 17:43 GMT
#244
On January 22 2010 18:35 johanes wrote:
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On January 22 2010 17:57 Roffles wrote:
On January 22 2010 17:31 johanes wrote:
On January 22 2010 17:19 Teogamer wrote:
Jaedong deserves this way more than yertle the turtle

Calling flash trurtle shows your lack of insight into professional SC. He has been the most agressive TvZ player lately. Also he deserves it 1683684698098454 times more than jaedong. And luckily, this game isnt about deserving, but about skill and you cant win against GOD himself incarnated into Flash.

In what way is he 12412341092857 times more deserving of a MSL title than Jaedong is? Sure he dispatched of JD in the OSL, but that doesn't make him any more deserving of a title. At the end of the day, whoever still remains shall be crowned champion. Savior was GOD himself until some skilless newbie Protoss named Bisu came in and raped him 3-0.

Never count anyone out, especially when they've gotten this far.

deserving in sense of players skill/titles-achieved ratio. Flash is skillwise at least the same as JD but hasnt been able to get so many titles due to child labor.


you are going to talk about child labor for flash, what about jaedong then? that ain't no excuse for failing out of leagues.

do you not remember the lecaf team last season? they had pirate zerg, mustasche zerg and jaedong to carry them to the finals!
hell, i dont think there was someone who had a tougher schedule than jaedong, but he still took down the OSL!!!
JAEDONG FOR PRESIDENT!
JAEDONG FOR EMPEROR!
JAEDONG FOR GOD!!
LWWW
I BELIEVE!!!!
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
January 22 2010 17:45 GMT
#245
Huh.. I liked that banner. QQ
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
January 22 2010 17:48 GMT
#246
if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
January 22 2010 17:56 GMT
#247
I didn't get to see the banner!!
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 22 2010 17:59 GMT
#248
I can't believe people actually complained about the quotes.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 22 2010 18:03 GMT
#249
lol i liked the quotes
RIP Aaliyah
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 22 2010 18:04 GMT
#250
On January 23 2010 02:48 piratebay wrote:
if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?

Far from it.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
January 22 2010 18:05 GMT
#251
On January 23 2010 03:04 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 02:48 piratebay wrote:
if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?

Far from it.


i know i know, he isnt the clear cut favorite over every pro like savior was.
but in a bo5, you know he will pretty much win against everyone except flash
i guess the pretty much and against flash negates bonjwa status for him.
but for flash... the question is, can he keep this up?
can he go on to dominate for 1-2 years like this?
time will tell.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 22 2010 18:08 GMT
#252
On January 23 2010 03:04 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 02:48 piratebay wrote:
if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?

Far from it.


Winning SLs three seasons in a row is damn impressive.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
January 22 2010 18:17 GMT
#253
On January 23 2010 03:04 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 02:48 piratebay wrote:
if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?

Far from it.


No, but not far.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 22 2010 18:20 GMT
#254
The MU flash looks most beastly in vs the MU JD seems to have the most trouble with.

Meh
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
January 22 2010 18:21 GMT
#255
Hey, where the awesome quotes in the baner go?
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
January 22 2010 18:32 GMT
#256
On January 23 2010 03:04 BanZu wrote:
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On January 23 2010 02:48 piratebay wrote:
if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?

Far from it.


actually, i'd say Flash comes close to the B-title if he rapes jaedong
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 22 2010 18:36 GMT
#257
If Jaedong wins he would be closer to bonjwa? I think if Flash wins he would have a really good argument to stand on. He just won OSL, and if he can come back a few days later and take the MSL from the best player besides himself in the world, it truly is an amazing feat that no one can say they've done before.

Also throw in that he's kept up as one of the best Proleague players during this time, and he is the current GOM champion (yeah, I know, it is gone forever probably, but he still is the current champion), then I would think he would be closer.

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Eloquent
Profile Joined July 2009
United States475 Posts
January 22 2010 18:36 GMT
#258
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 22 2010 11:12 Xiphos wrote:
Jaedong haven't play a ZvT in 3 of the maps? Wow, this can be a double-edged sword for him, either that he is inexperienced in those or he have something deadly up on his sleeves. Flash have played on all of them which give Jaedong more insight.



Exactly how I thought of it. Double edged sword which can go both ways for Jaedong and Flash.

Go Flaedong!
Jaedong for Platnium Mouse.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-22 18:44:03
January 22 2010 18:42 GMT
#259
Flash has been GREAT for about 2 months. Lets wait a little before you start throwing around the B-word. JD is currently holding the highest ELO rank of all time against Z and P (flash has against T) and FLash is the undisputed bonjwa if he can beat JD in a bo5? I think not.

Right now JD is the best zerg and protoss killer of all time, statisically. Even if Flash can happen to beat him in a very tough MU for zerg, it doesn't instantly make Flash absorb all of JDs stats.

Plus, the MSL finals have yet to be played. We'll see.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 22 2010 18:42 GMT
#260
On January 23 2010 03:32 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 03:04 BanZu wrote:
On January 23 2010 02:48 piratebay wrote:
if jaedong takes down this MSL, can we officially title him bonjwa?

Far from it.


actually, i'd say Flash comes close to the B-title if he rapes jaedong


How is flash not considered a bonjwa now? Only one of the bonjwas won two titles at one time and he didn't have the schedule that flash has now.... 2407 ELO, 2400 THREE times, 70% in all matchups, 22 TVT streak..... I think flash is a prebonjwa at least. All he needs to do is keep up this pace for a little longer. But especially if he beats JD, the second best player in history after winnning the MSL with ease then we can call him a bonjwa.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
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