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JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
January 13 2010 05:10 GMT
#361
MVP's face amuses me so much
Dance dance dance 'till we run this town!
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 13 2010 05:10 GMT
#362
On January 13 2010 14:03 tree.hugger wrote:
Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.

You sir, are wholly correct.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 13 2010 05:10 GMT
#363
On January 13 2010 14:09 nodule wrote:
2 wins does not a best matchup make

just sayin'

Agree. remember when Hyuk 2-0d Effort and JD straight up with no BO adv? hows that gone for him?
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
January 13 2010 05:11 GMT
#364
SET 3 : OUTSIDER

soo @ 9
flying @ 5
( ・´ー・`)
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 13 2010 05:12 GMT
#365
On January 13 2010 14:10 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 14:09 nodule wrote:
2 wins does not a best matchup make

just sayin'

Agree. remember when Hyuk 2-0d Effort and JD straight up with no BO adv? hows that gone for him?

ZvZ is his best MU I thought. :O
Jaedong
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 13 2010 05:12 GMT
#366
One drone down
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 13 2010 05:12 GMT
#367
soo is saved the indignity of losing a drone to a probe, but now probe+zlot get at least 1
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 05:13:29
January 13 2010 05:12 GMT
#368
On January 13 2010 14:10 Chen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 14:09 nodule wrote:
2 wins does not a best matchup make

just sayin'

Agree. remember when Hyuk 2-0d Effort and JD straight up with no BO adv? hows that gone for him?

While I agree with you as to the Really TvT thing, Really has always showed promise while Hyuk has always showed the opposite of that. It's not really comparable.

EDIT: eStro win streak, go go go!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 13 2010 05:12 GMT
#369
On January 13 2010 14:12 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 14:10 Chen wrote:
On January 13 2010 14:09 nodule wrote:
2 wins does not a best matchup make

just sayin'

Agree. remember when Hyuk 2-0d Effort and JD straight up with no BO adv? hows that gone for him?

ZvZ is his best MU I thought. :O


Pretty much, cant blame Hyuk for choking. :D
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 13 2010 05:13 GMT
#370
1 drone kill before first zealot killed - but 2nd zealot being dealt with more effectively
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 13 2010 05:13 GMT
#371
2nd zeal dosent get anything
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 05:14:06
January 13 2010 05:13 GMT
#372
hmmm i didn't like fantasy's build for a couple of reasons

it seems to rely on the opponent being bad, or at least bad in one of two ways: the opponent must lose his dropship and units while harassing, or the opponent must not use his dropship to scout the map something like so, if his harass attempt is ineffective:

[image loading]


basically the opponent has to make a dropship but be pretty bad not to scout the expansion. that's not an unreasonable ploy i guess, but not something i would think you'd bank a proleague game on.

further to that, the fact that fantasy contains the opponent with mines means that the opponent will make a dropship 99% of the time, and even if they're not catching on that fantasy has another base somewhere, there's still a 50/50 shot they'll see the hidden expansion because they won't just fly through the middle over a bunch of mines with their dropship

so we're left with something a good player will scout for (because they'll realize there's a hidden expansion), and something a bad player will probably scout by accident. it doesn't give you enough of an economic boost in TvT to be worthwhile if the opponent finds it quickly enough, and there's a large window that defines "quickly enough".

once its not hidden anymore, it's just an expansion, and it's pretty far away. the opponent already has more factories than you, and he will have a dropship as well. that's why you don't expand out in the middle of nowhere in TvT
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 13 2010 05:15 GMT
#373
god those mugshots of soo and gosi remind me that SC is a sport of nerds
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 13 2010 05:15 GMT
#374
A ling gets into the main! nice
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 13 2010 05:16 GMT
#375
First sair out, first ol kill
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 13 2010 05:16 GMT
#376
hahah, that zergling was such a fucking ninja
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 13 2010 05:16 GMT
#377
Very good point there FakeSteve. It was outrageously risky, and he did really bank on it. After that base went down, he started falling apart.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 13 2010 05:16 GMT
#378
On January 13 2010 14:15 d3_crescentia wrote:
god those mugshots of soo and gosi remind me that SC is a sport of nerds


Boxer has something to tell you.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 13 2010 05:16 GMT
#379
More than one group of lings massing up.

3base P vs 3base Z - hmmm
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 13 2010 05:17 GMT
#380
Lurkers morphing - Toss moves out a little but moves back
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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