EPTd_so are you of the opinion that any of best's recalls were effective in any way? you realize that killing a bunch of turrets and a handful of vultures is never worth an arbiter and two control groups of protoss units right?
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
d_so are you of the opinion that any of best's recalls were effective in any way? you realize that killing a bunch of turrets and a handful of vultures is never worth an arbiter and two control groups of protoss units right? | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Conquest101
United States1395 Posts
On January 07 2010 20:24 d_so wrote: but it wasn't clear. most games, yeah that would have been the end. but best's response was inspired and he almost won it after that second recall + the push into flash's expo. he just ran out of gas... it really was a paper's edge though, those scvs kinda turned the tide Almost won it???? Lol, please stop. Jeez. Scvs didn't even matter. Maybe you missed the part where Best had like 10 units to kill 30 unstasised units + reinforcements. Yeah, that was going to happen. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7701 Posts
On January 07 2010 20:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yeah seriously  its as if people see a big army and just discount everything that has lead to that point and go 'oh surely it must be even now, look best has 3 mining bases and flash has zero, surely he will win!'nevermind the endless bank flash had from mining out four bases inside 20 minutes and losing barely any units the entire game -_- I had no clue best could even outexpand after being behind 4 base to 2. I thought the 1o2o3o4o of 3/3 tank army of flash would just ripe him apart effortlessly. =( This is my second TvP I've seen since flash vs bisu on medusa in a long time though ... I guess it just always looks like protoss can win ..... | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On January 07 2010 20:22 d_so wrote: maybe faksteve needs to take off his sea-colored goggles and realize that most players would have quit from the Toss's perspective after getting his third attacked or most Terrans would have quit after the second recall. efficient openings or even playstyle aside, this was an example of great strategy and personality, if not mechanics. LOL? | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On January 07 2010 20:23 Xothmortu wrote: I must say, I know it was a long game anyway, but BeST should have been more polite about the gg - there was no way he could have inflicted one hit point of damage once flash won the big battle in the middle. Making a player keep going for the win might be good as a mental strat (the frustration), but it really isn't good sportsmanship. Anyway, long game over - hopefully an exciting 3set! Well I think it is a shock for Best, when he charge with confidence to win. And in few minutes his formidable army is evaporated under Flash's tanks. He just need some times to accept that. He didnt try to hide a pylon or anything.  | ||
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Majk
Sweden146 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
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Womwomwom
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On January 07 2010 20:24 Conquest101 wrote: Lol no. No toss down 1-0 in a series vs Flash is just gonna quit when there is even a .001% chance of winning the game. See arbiter nonsense at the end of the game for reference. And no Terran would quit the game when they have the game won 99% THE ENTIRE GAME like Flash did. Best's recalls were ok but he never had a chance after midgame. Period. Best would have won if he didnt threw away his goons against tanks on high ground, defending the 6th oclock expo. He could have waited for mass zealots and kill Flash army, again. | ||
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
what he shouldve done was recall his lots right on top of those super-denesly-clumped tanks; it wouldve instantly destroyed half of his tanks from all the cross splash fire and zealot attacks and perhaps would've even dragged a couple more mines for additional havoc damnit there are so many things that a latelate game toss couldve done in best's situation and he didn't do any of it | ||
Waxangel
United States33714 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
Are the scv buffers worth the supply they take up? I really feel like I'd rather have the extra vultures but there must be reason for them. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On January 07 2010 20:22 StylishVODs wrote: if it gets too drawn out terran can just siege forward 1 tank at a time and protoss loses, thats why he had to attack sooner or later. yeah, I came to the same conclusion.. but still, he should've tried and find a better angle or something... I thought Best was gonna lose the moment he put his nexus down(but without following it up with a fast 3rd) after HAVING SEEN flash do it first. I thought it was going like Flash wanted. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Ht's wouldn't have done shit because, if you noticed, Flash compeltely replaced every unit he lost with TANKS. That's expensive as fuck. Whereas Best didn't replace them because he was broke. Even if Best had half his army left after that fight, Flash had 20 tanks hotkeyed up directly after. Best would've marched towards his natural only to die a painfully tank based death. | ||
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
But he did everything he needed to win, so call him a camper anyway you want | ||
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
then he fucked around bigtime, and the match became very retarded. If flash had played seriously after taking out best's nat (while taking his own 3rd,) then it would have been over. Best played pretty well I thought from the position, but there was really not much he could do after that first push from flash. i woudl not recommend this game simply because it became a huge slop fest from flash, where he still managed to ride his big lead all the way. | ||
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