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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 07 2010 11:28 GMT
#1541
On January 07 2010 20:26 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:19 Mooncat wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
sigh.. it makes me kinda sad that anyone here is impressed by either player in this one

embarassing performance on both sides


Makes me sad how few people realized that BeSt never had a chance at any time in the game...


yeah seriously its as if people see a big army and just discount everything that has lead to that point and go 'oh surely it must be even now, look best has 3 mining bases and flash has zero, surely he will win!'

nevermind the endless bank flash had from mining out four bases inside 20 minutes and losing barely any units the entire game -_-

I had no clue best could even outexpand after being behind 4 base to 2. I thought the 1o2o3o4o of 3/3 tank army of flash would just ripe him apart effortlessly.

=(

This is my second TvP I've seen since flash vs bisu on medusa in a long time though ... I guess it just always looks like protoss can win .....


it would have torn best apart, if flash had attacked at nearly any point in the game after he killed best's nat. his army was essentially unkillable for the entirety of that snoozer
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
[AhunGrY]MelOn
Profile Joined November 2008
United States357 Posts
January 07 2010 11:28 GMT
#1542
lol
that was more like flash choosing to play badly
he pretty much won that game after killing best's nat
and decided to be bm and crush best mentally with the nuke
which didn't turn out so well but
that was not flash turtling and win
rather it was flash winning then turtling
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 07 2010 11:28 GMT
#1543
If best had made like... any high templar... at all... he might have had a chance. Sitting on his ass and playing for a draw might have worked as well. Flash clumped his shit horribly but stasis doesn't kill anything and a bajillion tanks would get owned by like 1 storm.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 07 2010 11:28 GMT
#1544
Flash wasn't even close to losing, if you think otherwise you need to watch the game again
however, BeSt could have easily forced a draw, just waiting for Flash to move out from his high ground.Too bad he didn't, we would be far more excited for the 3rd game.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 11:28:37
January 07 2010 11:28 GMT
#1545
On January 07 2010 20:25 Xiphos wrote:
BeSt that's was so dumb of him into attacking. Learn something from JangBi!


Actually thats the one good part of this game, that this wasnt another jangbi vs flash
beep boop
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
January 07 2010 11:28 GMT
#1546
On January 07 2010 20:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
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On January 07 2010 20:16 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
should have forced a draw


flash would have won it on the offensive, crawling forward slowly anyway..

late game mass tanks + vessels + vults + gols > goon zeal + arbs..


yeah you are probably right..
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
January 07 2010 11:28 GMT
#1547
Flash wins again in convincig fashion, best BM
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 11:29:52
January 07 2010 11:28 GMT
#1548
It's hard as hell to push against a mountain of Arbs and units (and HTs if P is not retarded).

I don't blame Flash for playing the way he did - if you get half the map and don't make a horrible mistake you win 100%. This is the MSL not some random game.

Edit: I will say that Flash did not play well, and he got careless. I think he might have expected that he could keep Best from really making the most of 12 with Nukes which is why he opted to let it happen like this, but that was a mistake as Best basically got that entire base mined out by the end.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 07 2010 11:28 GMT
#1549
On January 07 2010 20:18 IH4t3z3rg wrote:
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On January 07 2010 20:17 GoSu wrote:
FlaSh played so wel!!!! EPIC PvT!!!!!


Maybe u meant FLASH camped so well? This was a game of a man (Best) vs a pussy (Flash)

hahahaha this is gold. i agree completely.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1550
On January 07 2010 20:27 Waxangel wrote:
well, I suppose that's what you get for gas rushing =o

haha are you a terran wax?
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 11:29:31
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1551
On January 07 2010 20:28 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:16 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
should have forced a draw


flash would have won it on the offensive, crawling forward slowly anyway..

late game mass tanks + vessels + vults + gols > goon zeal + arbs..


yeah you are probably right..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF6-gMdP3cA

u realize there are some flying units there?
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1552
On January 07 2010 20:25 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
also LOL at 'most terrans would quit after the second recall'

d_so are you of the opinion that any of best's recalls were effective in any way? you realize that killing a bunch of turrets and a handful of vultures is never worth an arbiter and two control groups of protoss units right?


im glad you know so much about the game but much of what i say is a recap of the announcer's opinions. at that point of the game, which they just showed on the rewind btw, it really seemed like best would make the comeback.
manner
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1553
(T)Flash is now officially (P)Best.
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1554
if best didnt attack it would have been a draw

flash would never have been able to push to the otherside
bisu fanboy
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1555
More exiting game please now! I wanna see wraiths :D :D
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1556
back to the way beginning...
On January 07 2010 19:38 Perguvious wrote:
why did best take the gas if he wasn't planning to pressure if he knew flash would fast expand as a response to the gas steal


i still don't get best's strategy early game. all he did was run three zealots because of a fail-wall, there's no way he could've predicted that
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1557
On January 07 2010 20:27 kNyTTyM wrote:
pretty boring game but the scv buffer shield and the mass patrol for recall defense was pretty interesting.

Are the scv buffers worth the supply they take up? I really feel like I'd rather have the extra vultures but there must be reason for them.


No, not particularly. But Flash had 1 mining expo at that time so had a glut of excess SCVS. At that point it's either suicide them or put them to some use. Either way is kinda meh.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1558
DT rush inc :3
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1559
On January 07 2010 20:28 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:22 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:16 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
should have forced a draw


flash would have won it on the offensive, crawling forward slowly anyway..

late game mass tanks + vessels + vults + gols > goon zeal + arbs..


yeah you are probably right..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF6-gMdP3cA

so where were best's arbiters?
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 07 2010 11:29 GMT
#1560
On January 07 2010 20:27 Majk wrote:
What a sad Turtlefest that game was... Why didn't Flash attack more in the early game? Why did Best Suicide his army into Flash tank line instead go for the draw? Anyway a really sad game for Starcraft...

Best couldnt go for the draw. Terran can try to force a draw, Toss have to attack or get slow pushed to death.
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