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On December 02 2009 19:28 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2009 19:27 Chaos- wrote: It seems like whenever players try to cut corners with their scouting it always ends up hurting them in the end. Reminded me of JD's overlord vs Pusan. except JD's overlord error was more understandable...
Not seeing the scouting probe that would normally be there seems somewhat understandable. Just very unfortunate.
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I really hope this lasts longer than 10 minutes
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On December 02 2009 19:28 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2009 19:27 Chaos- wrote: It seems like whenever players try to cut corners with their scouting it always ends up hurting them in the end. Reminded me of JD's overlord vs Pusan. except JD's overlord error was more understandable...
Yeah and what can you do with 1 base versus Jaedong ? Pretty sure that was what Jaedong was thinking .
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lol they got exact same stats in last 10 games :o
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This better not be a awful BO/cheese win.
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Time to see if Shine is legit.
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On December 02 2009 19:28 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2009 19:27 Chaos- wrote: It seems like whenever players try to cut corners with their scouting it always ends up hurting them in the end. Reminded me of JD's overlord vs Pusan. except JD's overlord error was more understandable...
Zim vs. JD.....on the otherhand.....
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On December 02 2009 19:24 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2009 19:18 Holgerius wrote:On December 02 2009 19:16 Nevuk wrote:On December 02 2009 19:15 Sadistx wrote: So what kind of terran build can I use that autowins vs protoss that didn't scout it ? 2 fac/ proxy fac. Lol, an unscouted 2 Fac is far from autowin. Even if I scout I lose to it.  . Better comparisons would probably be things like 3 fac speedvult, 1fac1star (akin to 2 fac, not autoloss at all but it's a pain being ready for both), bbs (but who seriously even tries that tvp?), and 14cc. There's been a recent resurgence of deep 6 builds, those are definitely autoloss if you scout them too late. There are plenty of things T could probably do if P didn't scout so ridiculously early, most P scouting problems come in the mid-game.
You're confusing TvP with TvT. All those things you mentioned aren't autolosses for P.
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fantasy bashing his computer
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On December 02 2009 19:32 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2009 19:24 Nevuk wrote:On December 02 2009 19:18 Holgerius wrote:On December 02 2009 19:16 Nevuk wrote:On December 02 2009 19:15 Sadistx wrote: So what kind of terran build can I use that autowins vs protoss that didn't scout it ? 2 fac/ proxy fac. Lol, an unscouted 2 Fac is far from autowin. Even if I scout I lose to it.  . Better comparisons would probably be things like 3 fac speedvult, 1fac1star (akin to 2 fac, not autoloss at all but it's a pain being ready for both), bbs (but who seriously even tries that tvp?), and 14cc. There's been a recent resurgence of deep 6 builds, those are definitely autoloss if you scout them too late. There are plenty of things T could probably do if P didn't scout so ridiculously early, most P scouting problems come in the mid-game. You're confusing TvP with TvT. All those things you mentioned aren't autolosses for P. A deep 6 definitely is, assuming players of equal skill. (Or comparative skill).
edit: and 3 fac speedvults is a ridiculous 10/10/10 fac build.
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How is this map 5 - 0 in TvZ again ?
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TvZ 5-0 on Fighting Spirit. Is it really that T favouring or is it just a coincidence?
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konadora
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On December 02 2009 19:33 raga4ka wrote: How is this map 5 - 0 in TvZ again ? close nat-to-nat distances
being able to contain zergs easily
high ground at main = tanks = early contain lurkers aren't that successful
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Hoping for some good ol' Fantasy RoflStomping
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I dont think Shine has the vT skills for Fantasy. vs Protoss is much easier for Zerg... and seems to be his forte, as it is for most Zerg players. Thats why I like Zergs who, historically, have been so strong vs terran like Jaedong and sAviOr. I dont think Shine is going to show us anything novel right now.
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konadora
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On December 02 2009 19:34 Holgerius wrote: TvZ 5-0 on Fighting Spirit. Is it really that T favouring or is it just a coincidence? it's quite T favored, but if you look at the T : Z games, the Zergs are terrible or the Terrans are just too good.
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wow crazy intro what happened with the crappy drawing
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Cross map positions. I like that.
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