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muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
December 02 2009 10:21 GMT
#401
Shine is going to rape Fantasy. Mark my words.
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 02 2009 10:22 GMT
#402
On December 02 2009 19:21 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 19:20 konadora wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:17 Roffles wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:15 konadora wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:14 samachking wrote:
Hwasin out of OSL

Yarnc and ZerO are 1-0
Pure 1-1
Hwasin 0-2

Yeah I guess it's guaranteed =/

Zero can beat Yarnc + Pure to go 3-0. Pure loses to Zero to go 1-2. Hwasin beats Yarnc to go 1-2. Yarnc loses to Zero and Hwasin to go 1-2. Forced tiebreak. =D

thing is

ZerO is like nearly 77% ZvP winrate this year

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=174&part=games&vs=P&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=1&from_day=1&to_year=2009&to_month=12&to_day=31&action=Update

Don't really trust Pure to win that kind of a Zerg


if anyone watched any of the last 5 pure vs zero games theyll know Pure has 0% chance of beating Zero


There is never a 0% chance. :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 10:22:53
December 02 2009 10:22 GMT
#403
On December 02 2009 19:20 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 19:17 Roffles wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:15 konadora wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:14 samachking wrote:
Hwasin out of OSL

Yarnc and ZerO are 1-0
Pure 1-1
Hwasin 0-2

Yeah I guess it's guaranteed =/

Zero can beat Yarnc + Pure to go 3-0. Pure loses to Zero to go 1-2. Hwasin beats Yarnc to go 1-2. Yarnc loses to Zero and Hwasin to go 1-2. Forced tiebreak. =D

thing is

ZerO is like nearly 77% ZvP winrate this year

Your Link here

Don't really trust Pure to win that kind of a Zerg

Uhh, you know Pure has to lose right? Cause to force a 1-2 break, Zero has to sweep the rest of the group by beating Pure + Yarnc. Pure losing to Zero is pretty predictable.
God Bless
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
December 02 2009 10:22 GMT
#404
stop quoting that link please
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 02 2009 10:23 GMT
#405
Grobyc, why you gotta hate. =(
Remember Violet.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 02 2009 10:23 GMT
#406
No worries, I edited my post after seeing that.
God Bless
LetMeShine
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
979 Posts
December 02 2009 10:23 GMT
#407
lol FBH vs. Jaehoon.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 02 2009 10:24 GMT
#408
On December 02 2009 19:18 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 19:16 Nevuk wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:15 Sadistx wrote:
So what kind of terran build can I use that autowins vs protoss that didn't scout it ?

2 fac/ proxy fac.

Lol, an unscouted 2 Fac is far from autowin.

Even if I scout I lose to it. .

Better comparisons would probably be things like 3 fac speedvult, 1fac1star (akin to 2 fac, not autoloss at all but it's a pain being ready for both), bbs (but who seriously even tries that tvp?), and 14cc. There's been a recent resurgence of deep 6 builds, those are definitely autoloss if you scout them too late.

There are plenty of things T could probably do if P didn't scout so ridiculously early, most P scouting problems come in the mid-game.
boredcouch
Profile Joined May 2008
United States110 Posts
December 02 2009 10:24 GMT
#409
On December 02 2009 19:22 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 19:21 samachking wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:20 konadora wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:17 Roffles wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:15 konadora wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:14 samachking wrote:
Hwasin out of OSL

Yarnc and ZerO are 1-0
Pure 1-1
Hwasin 0-2

Yeah I guess it's guaranteed =/

Zero can beat Yarnc + Pure to go 3-0. Pure loses to Zero to go 1-2. Hwasin beats Yarnc to go 1-2. Yarnc loses to Zero and Hwasin to go 1-2. Forced tiebreak. =D

thing is

ZerO is like nearly 77% ZvP winrate this year

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=174&part=games&vs=P&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=1&from_day=1&to_year=2009&to_month=12&to_day=31&action=Update

Don't really trust Pure to win that kind of a Zerg


if anyone watched any of the last 5 pure vs zero games theyll know Pure has 0% chance of beating Zero


There is never a 0% chance. :p

Never say never.
starcraft is the greatest game ever
muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
December 02 2009 10:24 GMT
#410
I can't believe Jaehoon cut his hair. He looked so awesome before.
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 10:25:16
December 02 2009 10:25 GMT
#411
On December 02 2009 19:22 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 19:20 konadora wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:17 Roffles wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:15 konadora wrote:
On December 02 2009 19:14 samachking wrote:
Hwasin out of OSL

Yarnc and ZerO are 1-0
Pure 1-1
Hwasin 0-2

Yeah I guess it's guaranteed =/

Zero can beat Yarnc + Pure to go 3-0. Pure loses to Zero to go 1-2. Hwasin beats Yarnc to go 1-2. Yarnc loses to Zero and Hwasin to go 1-2. Forced tiebreak. =D

thing is

ZerO is like nearly 77% ZvP winrate this year

Your Link here

Don't really trust Pure to win that kind of a Zerg

Uhh, you know Pure has to lose right? Cause to force a 1-2 break, Zero has to sweep the rest of the group by beating Pure + Yarnc. Pure losing to Zero is pretty predictable.

ah nvm, i saw wrongly

okay, so maybe there is hope for Hwasin o_O

But then again, Yarnc's ZvT...
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
December 02 2009 10:25 GMT
#412
That is one fail SCV scout.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-02 10:26:46
December 02 2009 10:26 GMT
#413
didn't Hwasin see the fast 2nd gas?

If he did, he probably would have gotten academy and ebay first.
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White_Raven
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia178 Posts
December 02 2009 10:26 GMT
#414
[image loading]

Poll: Predictions?
(Vote): Suns gonna Shine today
(Vote): Mantasy is gonna show em how WW2 ended
Dancing queeeeen, feel the meat of his med/marines oh yeahhhhhh
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8202 Posts
December 02 2009 10:27 GMT
#415
I'm pretty excited to see Shine play Fantasy. Shine has a ton of potential and plays really well in early mid game v T. In MSL he was destroying Hwasin and then got busted in a retarded way (his fault) and lost.

I think Shine is the favorite against Fantasy
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
December 02 2009 10:27 GMT
#416
It seems like whenever players try to cut corners with their scouting it always ends up hurting them in the end. Reminded me of JD's overlord vs Pusan.
FruitMarket
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
December 02 2009 10:28 GMT
#417
On December 02 2009 19:27 Chaos- wrote:
It seems like whenever players try to cut corners with their scouting it always ends up hurting them in the end. Reminded me of JD's overlord vs Pusan.

except JD's overlord error was more understandable...
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 02 2009 10:28 GMT
#418
I want Shine to beat Fantasy
Brood War loyalist
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 02 2009 10:29 GMT
#419
On December 02 2009 19:16 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 19:15 G.s)NarutO wrote:
pretty shitty games so far..

don't worry stork vs flash will make up for it


Have you seen Stork vs Sea and Stork vs Canata..?
Since that Canata game Stork isnt the same. Not to say Sea vs Stork was bad, but Stork lacked the spirit
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
December 02 2009 10:29 GMT
#420
hehe Fantasy with tape

gonna do something funny to the girl
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