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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
July 20 2009 14:08 GMT
#1
Introduction

A 1 fac 1 port build is where you make 1 factory, and right after the factory is done, a starport with a add on so you can produce drop ships fast.
The goal of this build is to drop fast and harras the protoss, possibly while he still doesn't have any observers and is not present in his base
with his units at the time. There are a few variations of the build, but here i will explain the one i use the most, the 1 fac 1 port fake FD.

Build basics

Now this, like most others, works better on some maps than others, i believe this build should primarily be used on maps with cliffs above their expansions
like Othello and tau cross, or maps with easy access to the protoss expansion like blue storm or destination. It wont be as effective on maps like python where
the Protoss natural expansion cant be dropped as easily.

I will try to explain how to use this build on maps with and without cliffs, i will start with Blue Storm. Blue Storm is a good choice for this build because of several factors, the first is that the rush distances between the players are rather big, this is because of the path finding and the zigzag route the player have to take to get to the enemy base. You should try to wall every time if you can because a zealot rush or a probe running around your base will make this build fail. After you have walled off your entrance with a baracks and a supply depot make a factory, and right after that a starport.

Make marines whenever you can so that by the time your tank comes out, you have 5 of them. As soon as the factory is done build the machine shop ad don, when it is done make one tank and start researching mines. At this point take your force ( 5 marines 1 tank 1 vulture) out of your base, and show them to your enemy, he will usualy have a probe or some goons in front
of your base, make sure he sees your army because that will make him think its a normal FD build. While you are moving out keep making vultures until you have 4 of them, and right after mines start researching vulture speed, your starport should also be done and a control tower should be building, you should try to time everything so the drop ship comes out when you have about 3 vultures
and speed is almost done. Its very important that you dont lose your first army, so be carefull.

On Blue Storm i find it wise to try to move out to the middle of the map, then use a vulture to place 3 mines in the narrow path that runs down the middle of the map, i do this because this way if the protoss has too many goons, and i have to run back to my base, i will have mines to guard my back and slow him down, also 3 mines there can show you if dark templars are coming, and usually even kill one of them, so placing mines here is not only good for defending your first push, but also for crucial scouting, try not to clump them too close together, you want them to be spread out so you can see if the protoss crosses over to your
side of the map. Probe around with your first army as much as you can, but don't lose them, and if you suspect some sort of fast tech, retreat to your base.

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first mines placed in the middle

The drop

Now that you have the drop ship load 4 vultures into it and move to the protoss base, try moving at the edges of the map, and approach the protoss base from the side that is most open.

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move along this path to their base, and shift+click your dropship back home on the same path after the drop.

By the time you get to his base vulture speed will be researched. On Blue Storm, i find it good to drop 3 vultures at the large abandoned part of the base where the chances of their detection during drop will be minimal (take note a good protoss will usually have a pylon here, so just move fast). You drop 3 vultures at that part, and send them to the main probe line to do as much damage as possible (note that if the army from your first push is still in front of his base, it is good to use them and lure the dragoons out of the protoss base, that way your vultures will have a much easier time, and you can place mines next to his gateways).

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Drop 3 vultures here

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Mining up the gateways, and the base entrance to prevent goons from returning to base, also sometimes a goon will run into mines at the same time that some probes are passing on their way to the nat, this will ensue great fun

Now that you are in his mineral line, the protoss will run all his probes to his natural expansion, now that 1 vulture that has been left behind in the drop ship comes into play, drop him behind the natural mineral line, this way you will prevent the protoss from mining at both bases (note that if you manage to keep the protoss busy enough in his main base, he sometimes wont notice that one vulture killing probes at his expansion and you can kill a lot of probes).

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Last vulture goes here.

Home and the second drop.

Back at your home base, you generally expand after you have pushed out with your first push force, your expansion is delayed by the starport and vultures, but will still come reasonably fast. After vulture speed has been researched in your
factory, start researching siege mode, and making another tank (note that keeping your first tank alive will make your second drop much faster). After your drop ship has dropped all of your vultures, send him back to your base (note that you should use shift keys to set it moving on a path along the edge of the map to avoid detection, use shift because that way he will get back to your base safe, and you wont have to control him manually while you are controlling your vultures)
By the time your drop ship comes back home, you should have 2 tanks in your base, the one from the first push, and the one you made, with siege mode almost done, load those two tanks into your dropship and proceed once again to the protoss expansion.

By now most protosses will have killed all of your vultures, but sometimes if their build has later observers, you can place mines and some vultures will survive. At this point its good if at least 1 vulture has survived, because that will keep the protoss busy in his main base, and his goons will be there trying to mop up the last vulture, that is good because those dragoons wont be at the expansion where you will be doing your second drop. Once again drop at the same spot where you dropped your vultures (note that if the protoss indeed put a pylon there, it might be better to drop directly behind his minerals). You are dropping here because you can siege up behind the natural wall, and then send your drop ship (empty) to scout his expansion, you do this because without the drop ship
your tanks wont have vision of the probes they are planing to shoot, this also works to your advantage, because your tanks wont start shooting as soon as they siege up, and once the drop ship approaches, they will start shooting at once, killing a bunch of probes before they can run
(note that you should target the largest clusters of probes for most damage with splash). After you have killed as much probes as possible, un siege and load your tanks back in the drop ship and run back home.

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Try to drop them a little closer to the cliff than this though

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You can also drop here

Special note

After you have saved the 2 droped tanks, you can use them to continue flying around the map and harrasing expansions, for instance, if you spot the protoss taking a quick 3rd at his mineral only, you can drop behind the wall there and in the same fashion like when you dropped his natural, use the drop ship to scout and shoot probes, but be careful, dont lose the drop ship for nothing, and if you spot the p moving towards your base you should send those 2 tanks back home, because you wont have too many defenses.

Also, use your first pushing force (1 tanks 5 marines) as much as you can without losing them, if they stay alive you can use them to do even more damage, for instance while you drop him the first time with vultures, you can send your tank to that small passage from his natural to the middle, and siege him there with the marines and cause the protoss even more trouble.

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Like this, but try to use a marine or a scv to scout inside.

Usually during the time you are dropping and harrasing, you will see if he is going dt's or reavers and can build a ebay/accademy on time, of course you will have to adapt to the protoss, for instance if he went a goon heavy observer build with a later expansion, you wont go and drop the 2nd time, because you will need those tanks for defense at home, with this build you will have almost no defenses early on, because you have to keep to protoss in his own base dealing with your harras. In a normal Blue Storm game, during the harras, i expand again to my mineral only and send about 4 scv to the middle to make a turret line, and i send all my tanks to my middle high ground so i control the center, this is usually done with only 2 factories making only tanks, the reasoning is that by the time the protoss can get you out of his base, and get his economy back on track
you will already have a strong economy and middle control.

Action time line (to clear up possible confusion)

1) push out with tank and marines, use first vulture to mine up narrow path to your base.
2) if you can, stay in front of his base, if too much goons, run back.
3) drop him with vultures, if tank is still in front of base use him to lure goons out.
4) if tank is still alive, use him to siege p nat from that small entrance.
5) tank drop.
6) run tanks away and use them to harras around the map.

during all of this you expand once more and turtle up in the middle of the map with 2 facs.

Some things to keep in mind

Always, and i mean ALWAYS scout that large portion of your base where protosses like to proxy gate
If they proxy reaver, the reaver will come to your base at about the same time you are vult droping, then its up to micro, also you have a port, so make a wraith.
proxy dt will more or less smash this build, unless you can scout or predict it and mine up heavily.

On maps like othello and tau cross it works more or less the same but don't try to expand again from 2 facs, make more, wall off if you can, on tau cross be careful for fast 2 gate range goon builds that can kill you before you even drop.
When you tank drop just drop them on the cliff, also i sometimes, drop just 1 tank on the cliff, then fly into their base and drop the second behind their main mineral line, but that depends on where their units are and how much damage my vultures did. On othello be careful of 4 gate zealot builds that will catch you with your pants down since you wont have enough facts, and you dropped most of your forces.
On destination do it more or less like you would on blue storm, just drop your 2 tanks behind his expansion, behind that cliff that is.

Replays

Here are a few reps of me doing this build with varying degrees of success.

http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=11127
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=17251
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=17252


That's more or less it, i hope this guide helps somebody, its not really precise because i don't usually count my scv in this build, like on 15 fac 18 port and stuff like that (maybe i should try )
Keep in mind this is just how i do things, use it if you want, i'm sure better players than me could find a ton of holes in it.
Also, this isn#t my build, its something i have picked up over the years and added my own small touches, i believe this build was first shown to me by my friend Game. Sorry about the watermarks on the screen shots, it was the only program i had for converting pcx to jpg

also, tl net is awesome, i love you all <3
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 14:27:36
July 20 2009 14:26 GMT
#2
<3 you. can't wait to try this out at home.

does this build work well vs 2 base tech (arb/car rush)

or is it better suited for toss that go double expo?

Also for gas, do you keep 3 scv on the whole time?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
July 20 2009 14:27 GMT
#3
cool I like to do this on andromeda!
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foppa
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada451 Posts
July 20 2009 14:30 GMT
#4
On July 20 2009 23:26 StorrZerg wrote:
<3 you. can't wait to try this out at home.

does this build work well vs 2 base tech (arb/car rush)

or is it better suited for toss that go double expo?

Also for gas, do you keep 3 scv on the whole time?


it really doesn't matter because the drop comes before a third base or tech. it just sucks if protoss opens 1 gate obs or 2 gate obs. but last time I checked no one does any of those crappy builds on blue storm. its also very strong vs 12 nexus because protoss will never get to see your mines.
i can take you
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 14:38:31
July 20 2009 14:37 GMT
#5
make sure to post this in the Liquipedia section.

Andro sounds like a fun map for this

Would going for this build, taking your min only and an island be a safe build?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Stimpacked
Profile Joined June 2008
Philippines368 Posts
July 20 2009 14:52 GMT
#6
requires perfect execution and great multitasking otherwise if he defends well with minimal loses you'll be behind in units and econ due to later expo. also vulnerable to dt builds coz you cant completely rely on those initial mines to defend. but all in all its a good build catching P's offguard..
live and let live...
ahleezay
Profile Joined July 2009
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 16:07:35
July 20 2009 15:15 GMT
#7
*edited*
I was using a slight variation and it seems to work better for me.
The basic thing is not to forget about constant harassing with vultures.
in other words, your dropship must not stop even for a second.
i will add some replays of this later, here is the first one

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=16173
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 15:56:04
July 20 2009 15:17 GMT
#8
Nice of you to mention using the tank/marines to lure the army away. Most people don't do that, hence early and fast response to the vulture drops and not doing enough damage (and eventually losing most of the time).

Nicely done! (except for the screenshots though. For them, I suggest using 'Print Screen' and then converting the screenshots (they're in some weird format) to a .jpg or .png (can't remember which) using Irfanview)
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Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
July 20 2009 15:18 GMT
#9
Irfanview is your friend for everything picture and image related stuff. Otherwise, nice guide and I like the details a lot. It seems to be a heavy multi task strategy, so I better try not do it, cuz I am too slow... =O
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
July 20 2009 15:56 GMT
#10
Yeah this was pretty neat. I've been using a similar build but not as polished, I'll try this later today.

And yeah like someone said, this requires some multitasking and APM, so 100 apm won't cut it guys.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 20 2009 16:00 GMT
#11
On July 21 2009 00:56 Foucault wrote:
Yeah this was pretty neat. I've been using a similar build but not as polished, I'll try this later today.

And yeah like someone said, this requires some multitasking and APM, so 100 apm won't cut it guys.


sure it can. it all depends on who your facing.

as long as your playing someone around your level (higher level = better control vs better players) or (lower lvl = bad control but your playing bad people)



takes alot of practice too.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 11:51:31
July 20 2009 16:06 GMT
#12
edit: good boy
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
July 20 2009 16:38 GMT
#13
if you do this build and pull if off successfully be ready to get bmed at
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 20 2009 16:41 GMT
#14
On July 21 2009 01:38 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
if you do this build and pull if off successfully be ready to get bmed at


why seems like such a fun build
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
July 20 2009 16:47 GMT
#15
On July 21 2009 01:38 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
if you do this build and pull if off successfully be ready to get bmed at

Hahaha
I lol in ur general direction
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 17:32:30
July 20 2009 17:29 GMT
#16
well ive been called a few names in my time after using this build, the best is when you do nothing but drop them for the first 10 minutes, then when you get your eco you sit to 200, they call you a camper.

How would i got about adding this to liquipedia ? Is it good enough to be added ? Ive never edited wiki or any similar site so im confused.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 20 2009 17:49 GMT
#17
I've had success with this build on python. Just one drop with 4 vults in their main when they have all their goons camped outside ur natural. I like to take the island expo right before I drop them too. It's extra good when ur close spawn positions too like 12 and 3. The other really nice thing about this build is you can make a wraith to rape his shuttle if he goes for rev drop.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 20 2009 17:53 GMT
#18
On July 21 2009 02:49 LuckyFool wrote:
I've had success with this build on python. Just one drop with 4 vults in their main when they have all their goons camped outside ur natural. I like to take the island expo right before I drop them too. It's extra good when ur close spawn positions too like 12 and 3. The other really nice thing about this build is you can make a wraith to rape his shuttle if he goes for rev drop.


rep please
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 17:59:45
July 20 2009 17:59 GMT
#19
yeah on 12/3 python drop builds are awesome, its not just those first few drops, you can drop them midgame with like 6 dropships while they wait for you to move out to the front, and also take not only islands, but drop to other mains and wall off there as soon as you land, but its quite micro intensive and takes a ton of multitask , like playing islands.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 20 2009 18:08 GMT
#20
On July 21 2009 02:59 besiger wrote:
yeah on 12/3 python drop builds are awesome, its not just those first few drops, you can drop them midgame with like 6 dropships while they wait for you to move out to the front, and also take not only islands, but drop to other mains and wall off there as soon as you land, but its quite micro intensive and takes a ton of multitask , like playing islands.


that sounds bloody fun to try... walling them off on a drop.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
July 20 2009 18:44 GMT
#21
I've never seen somebody do this (that i can remember) and huge amounts of harass is so damned frustrating. Hopefully i won't be the unlucky person to get this tested on me in ICCUP.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 20 2009 19:42 GMT
#22
I think baby did this to white ra, or pretty much harassed the p into submission.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 20 2009 19:53 GMT
#23
I hate terrans who do this to the extent I almost always do weird goon all-ins in the first 5 or 6 minutes. It seems like this is the only build d or d+ terrans know on iccup, it feels like even if I defend it correctly and take minimal losses, I'm still behind due to it diverting my attention from macro/tech/taking my third/noticing tanks amoving through my army.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
July 20 2009 20:04 GMT
#24
hm, i would actually be surprised if D terrans managed to kill anyone using this but idk.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 20 2009 20:08 GMT
#25
On July 21 2009 05:04 besiger wrote:
hm, i would actually be surprised if D terrans managed to kill anyone using this but idk.

The d terrans I play have 250 apm and 140 eapm.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
July 20 2009 20:31 GMT
#26
hehe, yeah i guess it can happen in the first few weeks at the start of a season
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
_Air_
Profile Joined December 2008
United States146 Posts
July 21 2009 02:38 GMT
#27
On July 21 2009 05:08 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 05:04 besiger wrote:
hm, i would actually be surprised if D terrans managed to kill anyone using this but idk.

The d terrans I play have 250 apm and 140 eapm.


There not D if they have 140 eapm...
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 21 2009 02:39 GMT
#28
IDK man iccup just seems to be going up in skill level with no break at all TT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 21 2009 06:00 GMT
#29
D is the new C
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
July 21 2009 06:43 GMT
#30
i tried something similar like this on god's garden :o

pretty effective when protoss completely don't expect it or not really aware of it in time
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19347 Posts
July 21 2009 06:58 GMT
#31
i use this often now, it is really critical that u wall-in
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
July 21 2009 07:01 GMT
#32
On July 21 2009 02:29 besiger wrote:
well ive been called a few names in my time after using this build, the best is when you do nothing but drop them for the first 10 minutes, then when you get your eco you sit to 200, they call you a camper.

How would i got about adding this to liquipedia ? Is it good enough to be added ? Ive never edited wiki or any similar site so im confused.

haha

the irony of protoss ridiculing the terran's strategy. I suppose it is only fitting.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
July 21 2009 07:14 GMT
#33
On July 21 2009 01:41 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 01:38 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
if you do this build and pull if off successfully be ready to get bmed at


why seems like such a fun build

its fun to pull off but its really annoying to play against

"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
July 21 2009 09:48 GMT
#34
anyone wanna help me liquipedia this ? If the quality is good enough that is.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
July 21 2009 10:13 GMT
#35
This is the only type of strat I use against protoss. Other than that Just TvZ, So i'll definitely give it a try. cheers
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 11:14:59
July 21 2009 11:14 GMT
#36
On July 21 2009 11:38 _Air_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 05:08 Nevuk wrote:
On July 21 2009 05:04 besiger wrote:
hm, i would actually be surprised if D terrans managed to kill anyone using this but idk.

The d terrans I play have 250 apm and 140 eapm.


There not D if they have 140 eapm...

Tell them that.
Edit : A lot of them are really bad to early pressure though, so their 250 apm is useless really early.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
July 21 2009 11:23 GMT
#37
Why you have watermarks on your pics? There are like 9001 free image-upload sites out there.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 12:37:08
July 21 2009 12:34 GMT
#38
On July 21 2009 04:42 StorrZerg wrote:
I think baby did this to white ra, or pretty much harassed the p into submission.

i think thats siege first. This build gets mine first and if used properly tricks the toss into thinking you're doing a regular fd build. I think skyhigh used this build vs best on destination. iirc sea does a varitation of this build that was uploaded on tl the rep. It was vs pusan. But instead of port first he goes double command first and than drop.
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4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
July 21 2009 12:38 GMT
#39
its nada's fd into starport bo vs anytime imo, come out as FD than dropvults in the back and try tankdrops on cliffs and so on.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
July 21 2009 12:43 GMT
#40
On July 21 2009 20:23 Garnet wrote:
Why you have watermarks on your pics? There are like 9001 free image-upload sites out there.


It was the image conversion software for the .pcx files, didn't you read the thread?
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
July 21 2009 13:14 GMT
#41
Oh no not this build!

Thanks for the guide besiger, this looks fun to be the one doing it I'm gonna give it a go.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 15:12:39
July 21 2009 15:10 GMT
#42
cheesing arab

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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
July 21 2009 15:21 GMT
#43
heh, yeah i did the same build vs him in that game, but no need to pull that thread out
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 15:37:32
July 21 2009 15:37 GMT
#44
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quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
July 22 2009 17:49 GMT
#45
That's a great build, I tried it a few times back when I was experimenting with drops, it takes most of the tosses by suprise, especially on bs.

But if you don't macro well while harrasing (ie multitask), the easy gay 1a2a3a race will recover and get back in the game.

Thank you for the effort (no pun intended) of writing this!
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 22 2009 19:13 GMT
#46
This is a good build and can definately make someone ragequit, the only downfall is that if you lose your first shuttle or he defends failrly well with few casualties then you are completely screwed. You will not have a big enough army to defend your nat, if you expanded already, or he can then just take another expo since he knows what you are doing at that point. Good build though, will work most of the time if it is a surprise build but if he gets obs after gate then its pretty useless. Unless you are playing on desti where a tank drop behind nat can still rape even if they know its coming.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 22 2009 20:33 GMT
#47
Just played a game on andro with this, grabbing an island and my min only. my first drop wasnt so hot i did manage to kill 2 or so goons with mines and 6 probes (well maybe it was worth it. i also socuted his late reaver tech, and my wraith made quick work of that shuttle that went to expand on the island.

i dropped again latter below his min only which did minimal damage.

near the end dropped on the closed off section and managed to kill his gas, ended up rolling him a few mins latter with a booming economy felt good considering he beat me 2x before that
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-24 19:09:30
July 24 2009 19:06 GMT
#48
Here's a nice game I just played using a fact/port opening on python. First drop sucked so I decided to keep pumping dropships and go for a doom drop. The big risk you take when you do this is you leave your base pretty much undefended. Usually the enemy doesn't know this though so I get away with it often...

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=17491

Game is only at D+ level but both players are better than D+ I'd say.
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