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United States3824 Posts
Over the last two weeks I have noticed a striking problem with the wiki: Very few edits are actually adding content to the Strategy section of Liquipedia. And yet, the number of "[H] Why didn't I Win?" threads continue to rise. Why is this? Its obvious that people are playing more, gearing up for SC2 by stumbling upon TL and looking for help. The reason that we all wanted to be a part of this wiki is that we wanted to make people better at Starcraft, to breathe new life into the foreign community. We invite you, once again to meet us half way.
Don't feel like you have anything to contribute to the wiki strat section? Guess again. Let me tell you about my first contribution to the wiki way back in January when I joined up. For four months I had been behind a firewall at school so throttled that I couldn't play SC online and couldn't even watch youtube videos. All I had were some FBH games from proleague over the summer and games against the computer. And so I sat there with a journal and I thought about it. And I'm really happy about what I came up with it.
Every one of you knows something unique about playing SC. That's the kind of game it is. I play SC and follow Proleague because the game because it has infinite potential for new play, and I really think that Liquipedia is the catalyst for the creation of that content. I invite you to be part of The Renaissance of SC that we have the potential to create here. I don't know about you but that idea is the most exciting thing I have ever experienced in my gaming career.
So how are you going to do it? First off, read about your best matchup. See what people are saying about what you do best and see what you have to say to them. Don't feel like you are a good writer? Stay tuned for the next couple of days, we are coming up with a system so you can write what you know write onto the talk pages and someone else will write it up for you.
And what about the Strategy Forum? A lot of the talk I hear is that the strat forum is obsolete. I disagree. I think the strat forum is where we are going to talk about the new strategies that we come up with once we advance the wiki far enough. Until then, sure keep making threads asking for people to look at your replays. But, I do challenge you, that every time you ask for help in the Strat thread to post something that does work for you, to get the ball rolling. You all having something that you know about SC, so share it with the community.
Thanks,
-Cg
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
I already made about 3 edits.
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Liquipedia rocks! I've edited in a few notable games for some old school players and I still have quite a few memorable games I want to link.
Suggestion: make the Liquipedia link more visible on the TL page, it needs to be HUGE or BRIGHT or something, anything more visible so people that haven't heard about it find it. Thanks!
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I've made quite a bit of edits myself. I'm only about C- Zerg though so I don't want to majorly change anything that could possibly be wrong.
Also, I though this was going to be titled "Why Haven't You Edited The Recommended Threads Chill?!?!"
Quite disappointed. It really needs to have some stuff added.
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I added some shit to 2 gate cheese in the PvT bo section but the link sent me to 2 gate pvp and I felt retarded.
Also lazy, but ya everyone should contribute to whatever. Sooooo much shit is left blank. Don't be shy.
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On June 21 2009 05:03 Grobyc wrote:
I've made quite a bit of edits myself. I'm only about C- Zerg though so I don't want to majorly change anything that could possibly be wrong.
Also, I though this was going to be titled "Why Haven't You Edited The Recommended Threads Chill?!?!"
Quite disappointed. It really needs to have some stuff added.
Actually he updated it this morning. 
I was thinking of putting a more modern 4 hatch before gas build vs P but I don't know what I would call it since the article already there is called "4 hatch before gas (vs. Protoss)".
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I've made 2 articles or so. Big fucking deal I know
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Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
Glad you're bringing this up! Personally, I think I could add a bit to the progamer profiles, bio's of older players and whatnot, but I know without committing some time they'd come out half-assed. I'll try to see if I can get inspired sometime soon to dedicate the proper time this deserves and get some more content for you guys.
Edit - Going to sticky this for a little while to try and get more involvement.
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I tried to edit the zerg strategy section a bit but i don't know how to take screenshots on starcraft without them blacking out @_@
-vista
-tried.. hypersnap or whatever.. random program
- image looks like this( posted on liquidpedia)
Which is fine in some cases but i got rejected for the other images i tried posting 
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Use 'Fraps'.
'nuff said. Idk how to even add pictures on liquipedia. wtf! halp.
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Actually I didnt even know we could edit it til now lol.
I thought only the liquipedia mods could.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On June 21 2009 06:25 HeavOnEarth wrote:I tried to edit the zerg strategy section a bit but i don't know how to take screenshots on starcraft without them blacking out @_@ -vista -tried.. hypersnap or whatever.. random program - image looks like this( posted on liquidpedia) Which is fine in some cases but i got rejected for the other images i tried posting
Get a paint program that can open .pcx files, GIMP for example, and open the file using that. It should work.
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Just wrote some discussion about a z counter to the fantasy build. Hope to get some good criticism on my draft before doing any real change on the page.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
i just want to edit the progamers section but its not even official on the side menu yet
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I've made edits, but they were quickly removed =(.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On June 21 2009 07:10 Archaic wrote:
I've made edits, but they were quickly removed =(.
Your edits need to be approved by a Moderator before they can be accepted. They're probably just waiting to be reviewed.
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On June 21 2009 06:30 Grobyc wrote:
Use 'Fraps'.
'nuff said. Idk how to even add pictures on liquipedia. wtf! halp.
u can upload to liquidpedia
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Special:Upload
(need to log in first)
then just use [http://www.example.com link title]
which is one of the options, looks like a globe with a page?
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United States3824 Posts
a lot of you seem be talking about your edits being removed. Make sure you understand how our review system works, edits don't show up imediatly.
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I tried to make changes but nothing happens (trying to preview it first)
edit: Ah I cant edit that part what I want to edit. Player information box, seems its tied up to TLPD. Shame can't add information what would be interesting.
nvm, there is weird system how it works :D
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um im pretty much fucking retarded when it comes to starcraft.
i come here to read and watch, not help people play...
unless they have really really simple questions.
90% of people who get into trying to play good starcraft have no idea what they are getting into. you gotta be raised on it, or like 12 when you start :/
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i'm currently working on the 2-port Wraith page since there wasn't one and it's my favourite bo
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On June 21 2009 07:42 Scyther3176 wrote:
i'm currently working on the 2-port Wraith page since there wasn't one and it's my favourite bo
Make sure you put the counter to it.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
We Zergs will handle that part of the guide. The swarm has numerous counters to this silly paper plane build!
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I did some test edits to Sea, Much, Shine and Luxury pages. Main edits draft information and more detailed team history (still lacking few information though).
Comments if style is good or bad?
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10387 Posts
hmmm well I feel like I don't have much to offer startegy-wise so I just stuck to doing unit edits instead
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
can i become at trusted user lolool D:D:D:D
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har har
Asked nicely and I have monday off, maybe ill do something like pvp dt in depth, and/or some edits.
fiddling around I see i get a draft page, so I guess trusted user does not matter that much, though would help I guess.
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On June 21 2009 07:35 cgrinker wrote:
a lot of you seem be talking about your edits being removed. Make sure you understand how our review system works, edits don't show up imediatly.
I know that, but I added some a few weeks ago, and they're not there, so I'm assuming they were removed/disapproved.
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On June 21 2009 07:47 Mystlord wrote:
We Zergs will handle that part of the guide. The swarm has numerous counters to this silly paper plane build!
Make sure to let Leta know that.
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To be honest I don't know how I could help even though I want to. Randomly browsing liquipedia is difficult for me because I never got into browsing wikipedia really unless I search specifically. On rare occasions I will specifically search Liquipedia, but then if I don't know the answer I can't really add to it. I don't know, give me some suggestions and I'll edit.
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United States3824 Posts
On June 21 2009 10:02 DrTJEckleburg wrote:
To be honest I don't know how I could help even though I want to. Randomly browsing liquipedia is difficult for me because I never got into browsing wikipedia really unless I search specifically. On rare occasions I will specifically search Liquipedia, but then if I don't know the answer I can't really add to it. I don't know, give me some suggestions and I'll edit.
Stat by reading the matchup guide for your best matchup. That's the best placeto start if you are looking to improve your base level knowledge or just wiki surf. Liquipedia is kinda hard to surf at this point because we are still wooeking on making it interconnected
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I'm currently trying to figure out what to do about 2v2 related stuff. You almost need 2v2 to have its own section because it has its own metagame, trends and matchups, but then again 2v2 isn't quite popular enough to warrant it its own section, I guess.
Things are just harder to define in 2v2 since so many factors have to be taken into consideration.
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On June 21 2009 13:01 StorZerg wrote:
cause i'm newb :/
here too!
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On June 21 2009 11:29 prOxi.Beater wrote:
I'm currently trying to figure out what to do about 2v2 related stuff. You almost need 2v2 to have its own section because it has its own metagame, trends and matchups, but then again 2v2 isn't quite popular enough to warrant it its own section, I guess.
Things are just harder to define in 2v2 since so many factors have to be taken into consideration.
I agree that 2v2 should have its own section. 2v2 is the only other type of matchup besides 1v1 that sees any serious play, and it gets very competitive. Especially in the foreigner community, 2v2 is played quite often. I think that sometimes maps are so small though that when people play 2v2 on them it ends up being a joke because the map becomes so crowded and low-econ, but on larger maps 2v2 is a very viable strategic game. I think that many people could benefit from some sort of 2v2 section on Liquipedia.
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On June 21 2009 13:01 StorZerg wrote:
cause i'm newb :/
This. I mostly edit stylistic "errors" and such.
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I don't feel qualified to edit anything.
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On June 21 2009 14:41 Nightmarjoo wrote:
I don't feel qualified to edit anything.
Lots of the Zerg articles are pretty thin at the moment, even if it's just little additions it could make a difference (I'm assuming you're a Z user because of your icon).
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On June 21 2009 14:41 Nightmarjoo wrote:
I don't feel qualified to edit anything.
You can at least start a discussion on the discussion page on something you want to see added in.
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Wow the zerg pages are pretty bad hah, I'll try helping.
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On June 21 2009 10:01 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 07:47 Mystlord wrote:
We Zergs will handle that part of the guide. The swarm has numerous counters to this silly paper plane build! Make sure to let Leta know that.
Hard counter: being Jaedong?
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I'm pretty noob,yet i have made some edits and even a page, all on basic things, because that's what I know best! =D
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United States11390 Posts
On June 21 2009 14:41 Nightmarjoo wrote:
I don't feel qualified to edit anything.
Since mapping is your forte, then why not start there? ;o
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woah i didn't know we had a wiki o_O
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Hungary11289 Posts
On June 21 2009 09:04 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 07:35 cgrinker wrote:
a lot of you seem be talking about your edits being removed. Make sure you understand how our review system works, edits don't show up imediatly. I know that, but I added some a few weeks ago, and they're not there, so I'm assuming they were removed/disapproved.
If you think your content has been deleted and you don't know why, send a pm to the staff (like cgrinker, me, also GHOSTCLAW and mikeymoo). We'll try to find out then. Usually we also leave a note on your user page to indicate what went wrong with your edit.
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ive been too lazy. sorry cgrinker. :'(
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i edited the TvZ match-up today regarding being wary of a Z backstab when you move out with first group of MnM
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On June 21 2009 14:41 Nightmarjoo wrote:
I don't feel qualified to edit anything.
I also feel this way, I am a D player tops and I really can't do anything but edit some of the flaws in certain BO's (like changing the save larvae timing from 350 pool HP to 300 pool HP for 6 lings)
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I told how awesome goliaths are
go me!
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United States3824 Posts
You are all qualified to edit something in the wiki. That's the greatest part! If you have ever played SC you know something that works and something that doesn't. We tend to focus here on what we can't do, I want to hear what you can do!
If you don't know how to use mediawiki, I think that we as the staff should definitely set something up to teach people. Kinda an oops on our part not thinking of that. It really is made to be easy though. A lot of the basic stuff like headers, lists, stuff like that is really easy to learn.
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hey i edited a lot of stuff on it
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I just edited some =) Good call mentioning it though, otherwise people might semi-forget about it.
Liquipedia is awesome!
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On June 21 2009 10:01 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 07:47 Mystlord wrote:
We Zergs will handle that part of the guide. The swarm has numerous counters to this silly paper plane build! Make sure to let Leta know that.
I'm sure someone in the audience will.
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On June 22 2009 05:13 Phrogs! wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 10:01 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On June 21 2009 07:47 Mystlord wrote:
We Zergs will handle that part of the guide. The swarm has numerous counters to this silly paper plane build! Make sure to let Leta know that. I'm sure someone in the audience will.
LOL
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ok actually came up with some things I could add, getting in to it now 
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On June 21 2009 14:41 Nightmarjoo wrote:
I don't feel qualified to edit anything.
your iccup rank tells me otherwise
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On June 22 2009 04:24 cgrinker wrote:
If you don't know how to use mediawiki, I think that we as the staff should definitely set something up to teach people. Kinda an oops on our part not thinking of that. It really is made to be easy though. A lot of the basic stuff like headers, lists, stuff like that is really easy to learn.
Yeah don't let this stop you--the basic markup is really really simple. Also, don't let the fact that you're a noob stop you from posting IMO. Someday perhaps we will get enough content that on it that only really good players will have anything to add (I doubt this) but at the moment there's plenty of editing that anyone who reads these forums can add. There are still lots of obvious oversights and gaps. Just give it your best shot... chances are what you post will be better than nothing The beauty of the wiki is that it can always be updated later.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
"Later in the game it is very common to switch to ground units such as Dragoons, Dark Templar, High Templar, and Zealots , but you will regularly still have a few Reavers."
My only contribution
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United States17042 Posts
On June 22 2009 08:01 HeavOnEarth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 14:41 Nightmarjoo wrote:
I don't feel qualified to edit anything. your iccup rank tells me otherwise
Shoot if you're above D, then you're qualified to write more than I am, and i wrote the whole PvX section (not quite, but close). Also wrote ZvP and it shows.
Go make content better ^^
Also, we just opened up a progaming section. If you've got free time, then go ahead and look it over, see if tlpd or your own memory has anything better/different to add.
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I'm a noob at starcraft so I can't really help out with the strategy but I didn't make a couple of edits (link pages to each other) to try and improve the site. Actually my edits were edited before being added but they're there. I guess I represent all the noobs when I say that we would really appreciate it if you, the more experienced players, added your knowledge and builds to the wiki.
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Germany2762 Posts
On June 22 2009 04:24 cgrinker wrote:
You are all qualified to edit something in the wiki. That's the greatest part! If you have ever played SC you know something that works and something that doesn't. We tend to focus here on what we can't do, I want to hear what you can do!
If you don't know how to use mediawiki, I think that we as the staff should definitely set something up to teach people. Kinda an oops on our part not thinking of that. It really is made to be easy though. A lot of the basic stuff like headers, lists, stuff like that is really easy to learn.
damn i thought about making a guide about that for the contest 
but i hadn't enough time to do it properly so i didn't. but this is still something that could be done.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
anyone have yellow vs ggplay @ 815 So1 OSL
please send me or upload to youtube :D:D:D
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I could contribute.
I want to make a new page:
ZvZ Hydra.
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I'm contributing with what I can for now, mainly though fact checks and spelling fixes. I'm not nearly confident enough to be modifying the strategy section yet.
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United States17042 Posts
On June 24 2009 08:28 Trozz wrote:
I could contribute.
I want to make a new page:
ZvZ Hydra.
go ahead and do it. Plug it into strategy overview after you're done. Better be really good though, as it's not common, and I can't think of a progame where they went hydra ZvZ in the past 2 years (the yellow game shouldn't count, as everyone brings it up) xD
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I honestly can't transform my play into words, I kinda just do what I feel like
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This hole liquidpedia thing is really good, it helped me alot figuring out some stuffs that i needed actually, so thnx for this!
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On June 22 2009 04:24 cgrinker wrote:
You are all qualified to edit something in the wiki.
HAHAHAHAHA you asked for it.
TvT Yamato/Tank strat, here I come!
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United States17042 Posts
On June 27 2009 08:52 Johnny B wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2009 04:24 cgrinker wrote:
You are all qualified to edit something in the wiki. HAHAHAHAHA you asked for it. TvT Yamato/Tank strat, here I come!
if you want; make sure it's well written xD
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wat, there's not even a sauron zerg article
I'm too scared to start on new articles, I don't know all those scripts and shit and I dunno how to start.
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On June 23 2009 23:28 alffla wrote:
anyone have yellow vs ggplay @ 815 So1 OSL
please send me or upload to youtube :D:D:D
I have it I think
but its a HUGE file
edit: yeah I have it. Where do you want me to upload? (I dont have a youtube account)
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Ugh, the welcome page has a blurb on Jaedong including the lines "There is no reason to doubt him: top of Kespa rankings, in Gom Ro8..." Is liquipedia supposed to conform to the basic wikipedia premise of no original thoughts? I understand that is difficult in the bw world but what I quoted is straight editorializing: is that allowed on liquipedia?
I personally think it takes away from the project.
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On July 03 2009 14:48 cz wrote:
Ugh, the welcome page has a blurb on Jaedong including the lines "There is no reason to doubt him: top of Kespa rankings, in Gom Ro8..." Is liquipedia supposed to conform to the basic wikipedia premise of no original thoughts? I understand that is difficult in the bw world but what I quoted is straight editorializing: is that allowed on liquipedia?
I personally think it takes away from the project.
I think it was more a factual statement.
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United States3824 Posts
On July 03 2009 14:48 cz wrote:
Ugh, the welcome page has a blurb on Jaedong including the lines "There is no reason to doubt him: top of Kespa rankings, in Gom Ro8..." Is liquipedia supposed to conform to the basic wikipedia premise of no original thoughts? I understand that is difficult in the bw world but what I quoted is straight editorializing: is that allowed on liquipedia?
I personally think it takes away from the project.
I think we try to be as professional as possible. However that blurb is not part of the article; it is in fact one of our staff members trying to motivate you to edit along with showing you some really cool photography that NeverGG is kind enough to let us use (whom I've never thanked properly. If you see this, Thanks!)
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Germany2762 Posts
over the last couple of days i added and edited some articles. the problem is, that i actually pretty much suck at the game itself T_T
so i just add things like players or other things that don't need too much strategic insight.
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That's still really helpful. Thanks
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On June 21 2009 15:18 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Wow the zerg pages are pretty bad hah, I'll try helping.
Im with him except i do edit somethings the mods missed, mainly grammar errors lol. But i will start discussions soon.
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Not to criticize liquipeida but since the majority of use are D-C+ players, with a few exceptions above C+, isn't it possible that the experiences/knowledge we have gained are in fact incorrect?
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
I'd say that C+ level players have a good enough understanding of the game to make Liquipedia helpful to all players. Besides, we haven't really gotten too much involvement in the Strategy section yet. I've mostly been seeing edits in the Progaming and units sections. Besides, you don't have to be mechanically good at the game to know what you're talking about.
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On July 11 2009 17:07 Mystlord wrote:
I'd say that C+ level players have a good enough understanding of the game to make Liquipedia helpful to all players. Besides, we haven't really gotten too much involvement in the Strategy section yet. I've mostly been seeing edits in the Progaming and units sections. Besides, you don't have to be mechanically good at the game to know what you're talking about.
I only go there for BOs and lingo.
100% accurate, so far.
But that is my experience.
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United States3824 Posts
On July 10 2009 14:45 kdog3683 wrote:
Not to criticize liquipeida but since the majority of use are D-C+ players, with a few exceptions above C+, isn't it possible that the experiences/knowledge we have gained are in fact incorrect?
Sarcastic answer first, if everyone was doing their part and reading the wiki to get better at SC then we could tell you to only build Scouts and it would work out since everyone would be doing it!
But for real everyone has something that they know about Starcraft that they can contribute. Every time you play SC you work through an idea in your head to improve. veryone has something to offer.
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On July 11 2009 17:07 Mystlord wrote:
I'd say that C+ level players have a good enough understanding of the game to make Liquipedia helpful to all players. Besides, we haven't really gotten too much involvement in the Strategy section yet. I've mostly been seeing edits in the Progaming and units sections. Besides, you don't have to be mechanically good at the game to know what you're talking about.
i agree, once you're around that level you have a very strong fundamental knowledge of the game, and what separates C from BA is execution, practice, and teamwork
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On July 13 2009 04:29 ggnet)mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2009 17:07 Mystlord wrote:
I'd say that C+ level players have a good enough understanding of the game to make Liquipedia helpful to all players. Besides, we haven't really gotten too much involvement in the Strategy section yet. I've mostly been seeing edits in the Progaming and units sections. Besides, you don't have to be mechanically good at the game to know what you're talking about. i agree, once you're around that level you have a very strong fundamental knowledge of the game, and what separates C from BA is execution, practice, and teamwork
I also agree. When I was simply a D player not even D+ I knew a whole lot about the game but my mechanics just weren't good enough...
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Cos Pholon already put all the information in for everything.
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Vatican City State491 Posts
Can anyone add this picture to the "missile turret" article? I have no idea how to add pictures.
![[image loading]](http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2483/ludzik2.png)
Also, is there any equivalent of the {fact} tag to mark unverified claims?
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On July 11 2009 17:07 Mystlord wrote:
I'd say that C+ level players have a good enough understanding of the game to make Liquipedia helpful to all players. Besides, we haven't really gotten too much involvement in the Strategy section yet. I've mostly been seeing edits in the Progaming and units sections. Besides, you don't have to be mechanically good at the game to know what you're talking about.
Combat-Ex being the exception to the rule.
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hail good people of liquipedia, i wanted to contribute by writing a guide to a 1 fac 1 port fake FD into drop build for tvp, but im not really sure how to go about it (adding content that is), so if you could tell me how its done and give me a tip or two so i dont mess up, i would be grateful.
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snap, double post, i accidentally quoted my self instead of edit
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it really need more 2v2 info. I could start to do some basic strat for 2v2 but im far from a great 2v player.. mor eliek a C- player
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I just wanted to say the the section with all the unit facts (e.g. size, cooldown, dmgtype) is amazing.
Fx I just found out why hyds dont completely owns vultures. They only deal 7.5 dmg to them and not 10.
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Good call bringing this up. I recently discovered liquipedia (as I recently started playing bw again) and it has already been very helpful.
One thing I would really like to see added is information on micro technics. The vulture entry could have details on how to perform patrol-move attacks and how to ensure good mine-laying. I will consider how I can contribute.
If anyone out there have some useful information on how to properly micro valks, please DO add it asap! =)
EDIT: Just realized there already is a section on vulture micro, only it isn't very obvious how to get to it. Maybe a micro subsection should be standard in race stragetegy overviews?
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On July 20 2009 23:48 hefty wrote:
Good call bringing this up. I recently discovered liquipedia (as I recently started playing bw again) and it has already been very helpful.
One thing I would really like to see added is information on micro technics. The vulture entry could have details on how to perform patrol-move attacks and how to ensure good mine-laying. I will consider how I can contribute.
If anyone out there have some useful information on how to properly micro valks, please DO add it asap! =)
EDIT: Just realized there already is a section on vulture micro, only it isn't very obvious how to get to it. Maybe a micro subsection should be standard in race stragetegy overviews?
If you use the search option and type search for "micro" the first link that you receive is Vulture Micro
The search option is really usefull if you want something in particular
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I'm a fairly rubbish D rank, so I'm going to try and avoid making sweeping changes to the strategy section. However I am reasonably adept at wiki markup magic, and can (usually) write intelligible English sentences, so if anyone has something strategically brilliant they would like to add, but doesn't feel confident in writing it up it then let me know and hopefully we can work something out. Teamwork and that.
Edit: Until then I'm just going to tinker with unclear wording issues, or maybe try and rewrite some bits of the Zerg vs. Terran section, as it's really bad right now.
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I've just added a ton of ideas to various discussion pages, most of which deal with fairly large changes I would like to make. No offense but the current system is something of a mess. There's a lot of good information but it's quite badly organised. Do you moderator types get notifications on discussion page changes (ie is anyone likely to respond to me)?
Is there a better way to discuss changes bigger than adding new pages / rewording things?
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United States17042 Posts
On July 21 2009 06:24 n.n.n wrote:
I've just added a ton of ideas to various discussion pages, most of which deal with fairly large changes I would like to make. No offense but the current system is something of a mess. There's a lot of good information but it's quite badly organised. Do you moderator types get notifications on discussion page changes (ie is anyone likely to respond to me)?
Is there a better way to discuss changes bigger than adding new pages / rewording things?
usually, either the feedback thread, this thread, or through pm is just fine - I just sent you one. IRC is good too, but I understand that's hard for people to use sometimes.
We don't get notifications for talk pages though, so i'll usually only check those if someone either tells me to, or i'm going to change something drastic (aka not spellcheck/grammer/style)
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Vatican City State491 Posts
How can I add a strategy? I dont see the "new page" button anywhere.
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If you go to a page that doesn't exist eg.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/my_awesome_new_build
then at the top of the page there's a tab that says 'create'. Add whatever it is you're adding, save it, then go to the relevant strategy page and add a link to your new one.
There may be another method, but that works for me.
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The right way is to make a search under the page you want to create. Lets say you want to create a strategy known as cannon rush on map called "x": go make a search for cannon+rush+x and now liquipedia offers you the pages that can be already made on that strategy. If that strategy's name doesnt match any other liquipedia search offers the option to create that page. This is prefered since maybe Four_Gate_goon doesnt exist you make the effort to create that page just to get stomped by the fact that 4_gate_goon exists. Try not to create a page before searching.
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The other interesting thing is that you can work on a page/idea without having to actually create it: Use your personal page as a sandbox to test what you want to create and maybe ask for help/ corrections from there. Every liquipedia user (thus every TL accountant) has a personal page that can be easily found by clicking on you own name (the upper tab) once you are logged in liquipedia. That page can contain anything (afaik there are no restrictions would be good to know if there are any ;/ ). You can access other users pages too using this link
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/User:Malongo
But the main point is to practice with your own page. This helps alot because once you make a page you dont want to start making cosmetic chages everyday on that page (Every change has to be reviewed). The good thing is that your personal page doesnt need review to update.
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United States17042 Posts
On July 21 2009 18:58 Malongo wrote:The other interesting thing is that you can work on a page/idea without having to actually create it: Use your personal page as a sandbox to test what you want to create and maybe ask for help/ corrections from there. Every liquipedia user (thus every TL accountant) has a personal page that can be easily found by clicking on you own name (the upper tab) once you are logged in liquipedia. That page can contain anything (afaik there are no restrictions would be good to know if there are any ;/ ). You can access other users pages too using this link http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/User:MalongoBut the main point is to practice with your own page. This helps alot because once you make a page you dont want to start making cosmetic chages everyday on that page (Every change has to be reviewed). The good thing is that your personal page doesnt need review to update.
for the personal pages, you can toss whatever you want there pretty much (as can everyone else -_-). Follow the tl.net 10 commandments, and then life should be good.
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editing plus1 speedzeal (vs Zerg) because its not even close to the truth :O it had lies such as having 4 gateway zealot nor had any accuracy.
Added a somewhat accurate build order mainly focusing on gas income. Also added the build for the Jangbi Strategy (double stargate dt follow up) in the transition section of the page.
if the other Protoss strategy pages are in such poor shape, I guess I should start editing t.t
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Ive figured out something to edit it with, but i cant come up with some good, almost everything exists in liquidpedia already, its so well done.
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On August 09 2009 05:34 SiGurD wrote:
Ive figured out something to edit it with, but i cant come up with some good, almost everything exists in liquidpedia already, its so well done.
There's lots of articles in the strategy section that don't have a liquidpedia equivalent. You could try starting there if you wanted. Basically you'd just have to take the information here and format it into something that works for Liquidpedia. If you're not sure which articles are on the docket, ask cgrinker and aesop, they like sending PM's to people who wrote things that need translation to liquidpedia.
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On August 02 2009 10:47 foppa wrote:
editing plus1 speedzeal (vs Zerg) because its not even close to the truth :O it had lies such as having 4 gateway zealot nor had any accuracy.
Added a somewhat accurate build order mainly focusing on gas income. Also added the build for the Jangbi Strategy (double stargate dt follow up) in the transition section of the page.
if the other Protoss strategy pages are in such poor shape, I guess I should start editing t.t
This is pretty much the reason I don't want to get into Liquidpedia editting. 4gate zealot is absolutely right. You're going to edit things from being right to wrong.
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As a terran player I'm skimming through and there is a lot of obvious stuff in there and I really couldn't think of anything to add. Anyone who uses liquipedia trying to learn terran have any recommendations or requests of things to be written?
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On August 27 2009 01:05 petzergling wrote:
As a terran player I'm skimming through and there is a lot of obvious stuff in there and I really couldn't think of anything to add. Anyone who uses liquipedia trying to learn terran have any recommendations or requests of things to be written?
Because we wrote a lot of that stuff a year ago, and all we had was old VODs at the time a lot of our TvZ stuff is out of date. If you feel like you watch a lot of proleague right now or can talk about what 1 Rax or Mech looks like right now then that's a good place to start.
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when I said "alot of the obvious stuff" I meant it as a positive way, like anything obviously important about strategy or builds I could think of is already included. Ill take a look at 1 rax and mech now
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On August 27 2009 01:05 petzergling wrote:
As a terran player I'm skimming through and there is a lot of obvious stuff in there and I really couldn't think of anything to add. Anyone who uses liquipedia trying to learn terran have any recommendations or requests of things to be written?
TvT needs a lot of work. I've been thinking of putting up the 1 fac expo variations, but not only is it hard to organize, but its a lot of work.
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Hungary11289 Posts
I am so glad that the final reply of this thread isn't "lol" anymore.
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On August 27 2009 03:30 Aesop wrote:
I am so glad that the final reply of this thread isn't "lol" anymore.
lol
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On August 29 2009 00:52 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2009 03:30 Aesop wrote:
I am so glad that the final reply of this thread isn't "lol" anymore. lol
lol
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On August 29 2009 00:52 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2009 03:30 Aesop wrote:
I am so glad that the final reply of this thread isn't "lol" anymore. lol
Kwanro
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On August 29 2009 01:25 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2009 00:52 Ideas wrote:On August 27 2009 03:30 Aesop wrote:
I am so glad that the final reply of this thread isn't "lol" anymore. lol Kwanro
ill get to him when i get to him
goddamn why doesnt kwanro have any fans to do him
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On August 29 2009 01:25 Aesop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2009 00:52 Ideas wrote:On August 27 2009 03:30 Aesop wrote:
I am so glad that the final reply of this thread isn't "lol" anymore. lol Kwanro
Jaedong
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Okay, time to write a bunch of misleading information on PvP
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The reason I haven't edited yet is because I am afraid to touch the sanctity of other people's work. Also, there is, as far as I know, no clear "This is under construction" sign that you can put up on a work in progress.
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On September 04 2009 06:51 LeperKahn wrote:
The reason I haven't edited yet is because I am afraid to touch the sanctity of other people's work. Also, there is, as far as I know, no clear "This is under construction" sign that you can put up on a work in progress.
as long as you make it better no one will mind.
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Weeeee edited my first article. It was only a few words but that's ok. I add some nicknames for  Much
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you can add liqiupedia stuff about TL users. just click someone's profile and there is a link to their Liquipedia page lol
edit- wait it's not there anymore, or where did I see that link?
edit2- i guess it just doesnt show up when you click yourself.
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On September 04 2009 08:01 CharlieMurphy wrote:
you can add liqiupedia stuff about TL users. just click someone's profile and there is a link to their Liquipedia page lol
I know ^_^. But being able to see all that stuff on one page is easier than clicking through all the tabs.
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What should I do if I find obvious mistakes?
The one port wraith TvT page gives itself as a soft counter which doesn't make sense.
It also gives 2 factory vultures as a soft counter, but the 2 factory vultures page lists one port wraiths as a soft counter.
A "soft counter" is a build that has an advantage against another build.
A build can't have an advantage against itself and two builds can't both have an advantage against each other.
If I knew what it should say, I would fix it but I don't even play Terran.
I made a thread about this but it got locked and moved or deleted.
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The 3 hatch>muta guide is missing when you make your nat gas and I don't want to edit because I don't know myself when to make it... But some one that knows how to do the BO please put that in ther.
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On September 07 2009 06:50 Zerum wrote:
The 3 hatch>muta guide is missing when you make your nat gas and I don't want to edit because I don't know myself when to make it... But some one that knows how to do the BO please put that in ther.
I know this one. You take your second gas right after you start zergling speed.
I'm pretty sure that's in there.
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On September 07 2009 07:34 csfield wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2009 06:50 Zerum wrote:
The 3 hatch>muta guide is missing when you make your nat gas and I don't want to edit because I don't know myself when to make it... But some one that knows how to do the BO please put that in ther. I know this one. You take your second gas right after you start zergling speed. I'm pretty sure that's in there.
eh, I'm not sure that you would get ling speed in standard 3-hatch muta before mutas are out. I've always gotten my 2nd gas right after I start my lair, and research ling speed/get 3rd/get lurkers/etc while harassing.
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You're supposed to get the nat gas right when you get lair tech if you're getting ling speed. If you opt to not get ling speed you get it just before lair tech has finished about 50%.
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Does somebody have a confirmed wikipedia account?
I want to upload images about how to simcity in ZvP on HBR but stupid wikipedia wont let me upload cause I'm not a confirmed user.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
To everyone who is scared of editting Liquipedia.
Don't be.
All of your edits have to be approved by reviewers, and if it's plainly wrong or you're spamming, it won't go through.
If it fixes mistakes, the reviewers will know, and they'll pass it through. As for an "under construction sign", you can do something like italicize the section and sign your name with a do not edit sign or something. Or you can start working on your user page and copy paste it over. Alternatively, you can make your own copy of the page and edit that by pasting a URL like this into the address bar:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/User:(Your Username here)/(Any page name)
Example: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/User:Mystlord/1 Rax FE Copy
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dumb question: How can i add articles? I searched for a while on the mainpage, but i never found any link to add things ^^
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On September 04 2009 06:51 LeperKahn wrote:
The reason I haven't edited yet is because I am afraid to touch the sanctity of other people's work. Also, there is, as far as I know, no clear "This is under construction" sign that you can put up on a work in progress.
You actually can. There's a kind of tag that you can put up to indicate your article is still a "stub". Also you can sandbox articles on your private page. Come to #liquipedia sometime and we'll talk you through it
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On September 08 2009 23:44 7mk wrote:
Does somebody have a confirmed wikipedia account?
I want to upload images about how to simcity in ZvP on HBR but stupid wikipedia wont let me upload cause I'm not a confirmed user.
I should be able to can do it
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liquidpedia is great, and i would contribute, but sadly i'm the person that reads liquipedia, not writes it. anything i contribute would probably be incorrect.
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I'd post some exact builder orders which are missing (like BBS fx) but I don't see any edit button on that page, I suck and need glasses or is it a locked page?
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I have an old incomplete blog post that is a 'How To Micro' guide. I'd like to add in the information to the wiki. It's from this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=79611 The guide is far from complete, mostly because I only play zerg so I don't have much to offer on T & P micro tips. I should have made it a 'How To Micro Zerg' guide.
I'm not a high-level player, but I think my tips are things that every D & up player should know. I don't know if the liquipedia content is geared towards low-level players trying to get better, or towards mid-level or high-level players trying to perfect their play. If it's ok to add low-level tips, then I'll put the information into the wiki.
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On October 02 2009 00:18 BlasiuS wrote:I have an old incomplete blog post that is a 'How To Micro' guide. I'd like to add in the information to the wiki. It's from this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=79611 The guide is far from complete, mostly because I only play zerg so I don't have much to offer on T & P micro tips. I should have made it a 'How To Micro Zerg' guide. I'm not a high-level player, but I think my tips are things that every D & up player should know. I don't know if the liquipedia content is geared towards low-level players trying to get better, or towards mid-level or high-level players trying to perfect their play. If it's ok to add low-level tips, then I'll put the information into the wiki.
It's geared towards everyone and needs to contain everything between common knowledge and very specific facts. So you are welcome to add your thoughts to: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Micro_Tips or make a seperate entry about Zerg Micro.
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Hm I didn't see the Micro Tips link anywhere. Shouldn't it be easy to find under one of the main headings (preferably under Strategy Overview)?
I'd like to make ZvP micro another page (linked from wherever Micro Tips is linked from), or as it's own subsection under Zerg Micro in the Micro Tips page. What would be the best way of doing this?
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On October 03 2009 03:15 BlasiuS wrote:
Hm I didn't see the Micro Tips link anywhere. Shouldn't it be easy to find under one of the main headings (preferably under Strategy Overview)?
I'd like to make ZvP micro another page (linked from wherever Micro Tips is linked from), or as it's own subsection under Zerg Micro in the Micro Tips page. What would be the best way of doing this?
I think you already answered that question yourself
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I was wondering why there isn't a list of good BO's on each map's page.
Right now as a lowly D newb, when I am looking for a good BO for a new map, I have to go thru every BO in the PvT Section.
Seems like there would be use for a list in the map's page like this (just a made up example)
Destination:
Strong PvT builds:
14 Nex
DT Fe
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Strong PvP Builds
14 Nex
etc....
is it just me or would this help the newbs (myself included) alot?
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On October 22 2009 04:54 Diamondback2 wrote:
I was wondering why there isn't a list of good BO's on each map's page.
Right now as a lowly D newb, when I am looking for a good BO for a new map, I have to go thru every BO in the PvT Section.
Seems like there would be use for a list in the map's page like this (just a made up example)
Destination:
Strong PvT builds:
14 Nex
DT Fe
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Strong PvP Builds
14 Nex
etc....
is it just me or would this help the newbs (myself included) alot?
That sounds like a great idea, and should be done immediately
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On October 22 2009 04:54 Diamondback2 wrote:
I was wondering why there isn't a list of good BO's on each map's page.
Right now as a lowly D newb, when I am looking for a good BO for a new map, I have to go thru every BO in the PvT Section.
Seems like there would be use for a list in the map's page like this (just a made up example)
Destination:
Strong PvT builds:
14 Nex
DT Fe
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Strong PvP Builds
14 Nex
etc....
is it just me or would this help the newbs (myself included) alot?
Sounds like a good idea, go ahead if you want to make a start on it. If you are unsure where to place it, ask someone from staff.
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On October 22 2009 05:55 Aesop wrote:
Sounds like a good idea, go ahead if you want to make a start on it. If you are unsure where to place it, ask someone from staff.
Will do. The problem is I don't know what builds are good on what maps besides what is posted.
So should I make a new thread to get a list together?
I would love to help and put some serious work in Liquipedia.
Also the Protoss builds seem a little lacking, if anyone has a build and the page is not finished send me the stuff and I will work on it when I can
Thanks!
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United States4991 Posts
God, I just took a look at the BGH pages and there's tons of garbage on there Maybe I'll edit it some tonight.
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I just made the first edit on Destination. When it gets approved let me know if it looks okay. If it does I will continue on. I just have never edited a wiki b4.
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Well, I haven't edited Liquipedia for a good reason - I don't have anything worthwhile to share.....
Currently, I am experimenting with going for fast ultras against T and P as a Z player.
1 hatch lurker into 2 hatch (and therefore 2 gas) ultra-ling, with the ultras popping right around the 10 minute mark. The lurkers are needed to delay the T player enough to get a few ultras, 2 carapace ups, and the +2 carapace up for the ultras..... +4 armour ups against at best +2 weapons is a huge win for the Ultras, but this falls flat on it's face by a single wraith, and fails epically if they go for mech.....
9 pool speed into 3 hatch hydra/ling (with a couple of queens for ensnare) into 4 hatch hydra/ultra (off 3 gas bases) against P. The queens ensnare allows me to get a little bit of an advantage against P in the mid game, without having to use a lot of gas. The ultras come in at about the 12 minute mark.
So, if any of those strategies are worthwhile enough to put into Liquipedia, I'll gladly put them in, but with my current low D+ level of play, I don't think I should even bother to do anything.....
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On October 23 2009 10:52 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
Well, I haven't edited Liquipedia for a good reason - I don't have anything worthwhile to share.....
Currently, I am experimenting with going for fast ultras against T and P as a Z player.
1 hatch lurker into 2 hatch (and therefore 2 gas) ultra-ling, with the ultras popping right around the 10 minute mark. The lurkers are needed to delay the T player enough to get a few ultras, 2 carapace ups, and the +2 carapace up for the ultras..... +4 armour ups against at best +2 weapons is a huge win for the Ultras, but this falls flat on it's face by a single wraith, and fails epically if they go for mech.....
9 pool speed into 3 hatch hydra/ling (with a couple of queens for ensnare) into 4 hatch hydra/ultra (off 3 gas bases) against P. The queens ensnare allows me to get a little bit of an advantage against P in the mid game, without having to use a lot of gas. The ultras come in at about the 12 minute mark.
So, if any of those strategies are worthwhile enough to put into Liquipedia, I'll gladly put them in, but with my current low D+ level of play, I don't think I should even bother to do anything.....
Heya. I don't think your D+ level of play should hold you from contributing. Many pages are still lacking the most common knowledge, that every D, and especially D+ player should know. So feel free to look around and add your 2 c to whatever catches your attention.
Your Ultrabuild would need to be rather refined, since we aim to catch builds that are viable from lower to a higher level. But if you can find progames to reference it, we can surely put it in.
If you have questions, write me a PM.
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On October 23 2009 23:24 Aesop wrote:
Heya. I don't think your D+ level of play should hold you from contributing. Many pages are still lacking the most common knowledge, that every D, and especially D+ player should know. So feel free to look around and add your 2 c to whatever catches your attention.
Your Ultrabuild would need to be rather refined, since we aim to catch builds that are viable from lower to a higher level. But if you can find progames to reference it, we can surely put it in.
If you have questions, write me a PM.
Yea I'm only a D player but I'm about to expand the maps section alot adding Strong builds.
Aesop if you could jump in my thread I put on this forum I would appreciate it. I'm trying to get this project going but all I'm getting is people who think I'm dumb for trying to do this.... Could you set them straight?
Also what about adding a section for a desired simcity for each map.
What I mean is pro's always place thier building certain ways, ie: anti-matter pylons, optimal gateway config, to assist gas as zerg. How about getting the desired simcity picture for each match for each race. I know this would help me ALOT, being I end up makign dumb simcity's when I'm freestyling. Sound like a good idea?
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On October 24 2009 00:47 Diamondback2 wrote:
Yea I'm only a D player but I'm about to expand the maps section alot adding Strong builds.
Aesop if you could jump in my thread I put on this forum I would appreciate it. I'm trying to get this project going but all I'm getting is people who think I'm dumb for trying to do this.... Could you set them straight?
Also what about adding a section for a desired simcity for each map.
What I mean is pro's always place thier building certain ways, ie: anti-matter pylons, optimal gateway config, to assist gas as zerg. How about getting the desired simcity picture for each match for each race. I know this would help me ALOT, being I end up makign dumb simcity's when I'm freestyling. Sound like a good idea?
Building placements besides the Forge FE and the Terran wall-in would certainly be useful, you can add them just as we have Forge FE placements and Terran wall-ins added.
Thanks for the effort you put into that other thread, I hope we will get some good results to transfer to liquipedia.
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On October 23 2009 23:24 Aesop wrote:
Your Ultrabuild would need to be rather refined, since we aim to catch builds that are viable from lower to a higher level. But if you can find progames to reference it, we can surely put it in.
Yea, there isn't any that I know of.....
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On October 24 2009 01:19 Aesop wrote:
Thanks for the effort you put into that other thread, I hope we will get some good results to transfer to liquipedia.
I hope so too. But getting all the info I need seems to be harder than I imagined. No one seems to want to give me more than
"TvP 2 fac dest" and incomplete data like that .
Sort of disappointed so far...
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Just edited quite a bit of 3 hatch muta zvt. Will continue the rest later. It was so incomplete my gosh.
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On November 04 2009 18:00 resonance wrote:
Just edited quite a bit of 3 hatch muta zvt. Will continue the rest later. It was so incomplete my gosh.
have a look at the 2hat guide next, I want to do alot of shit to it but I dont know where to start
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On November 04 2009 20:43 Julmust wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2009 18:00 resonance wrote:
Just edited quite a bit of 3 hatch muta zvt. Will continue the rest later. It was so incomplete my gosh. have a look at the 2hat guide next, I want to do alot of shit to it but I dont know where to start
Yeah it's very basic and covers almost no variations on the build. It doesn't explain the mentality, or the purpose really. It just says attack which is completely not true at all. Totally depends on the variation of course.
Might wanna tackle variations on the build and using the mutas in a way that will eventually win the game instead of just killing stuff.
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yea it's been edited by a person who really sees it as a all in build, which it isnt anymore. I mean you can take a third base before your spire is even done and if you can just contain the terran you're in great shape.
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Hi, I wrote two mini-guides for ZvP, one for defending against 2gate, and one for defending against 1gate-tech. They are here:
ZvP fighting 2gate
ZvP fighting 1gate-tech
I would like to add them to liquipedia, since the zerg v protoss timing guide only has 2 lines about responding to these builds
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United States246 Posts
On November 13 2009 06:28 BlasiuS wrote:Hi, I wrote two mini-guides for ZvP, one for defending against 2gate, and one for defending against 1gate-tech. They are here: ZvP fighting 2gateZvP fighting 1gate-techI would like to add them to liquipedia, since the zerg v protoss timing guide only has 2 lines about responding to these builds
You definitely should. Add them under "Zerg Counter to 1 Gate Tech" and "Zerg Counter to 2 Gate". If the page doesn't exist then create it.
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im afraid if I edit something and its wrong.. or try to add something to strategy section it will be wrong.. Like... I thought sAviOr made 3hatch muta for zvp to deal with FE +1speedlot rush which was made by nal_ra, but appearently im wrong with this stuff. I also thought sAviOr made 3hatch muta for zvt, but he didnt he only made it popular?? :S I dont know..
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
If you aren't confident about an edit, feel free to put it in the discussion page. When people see your edit, they'll respond and we'll see if your suggestions are true.
And for the record, Savior's more of the "I'll take some other guy's build but make it 20x better than he ever did" kind of guy. He didn't originate either idea, but he refined it so it became a near science.
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I'm always afraid to contribute to a site without fully knowing how it works first (call it 'noob syndrome' ).
One thing I wanted to change on Liquipedia was the entry about the Devourer. It says it does splash damage which isnt actually true.
Before I did a cast of a game I knew had devourers I checked Liquipedia to see if they did splash damage (wanted to make sure) and when I cast that game a lot of people pointed out they actually don't do splash damage.
I tested this by making a map with an enemy Devourer and a control group of 11 Mutalisks and an Overlord for my control. After the Mutas were clumped up into one I would fly it in circles around the Devourer. Sure enough they only damage one target while their spores do splash (but not damage).
The sentence in question:
The Devourer is a rarely used Hive-tech air-to-air unit that requires a Greater Spire to morph from a Mutalisk. It deals splash damage and also applies a unique, stackable debuff called Acid Spores
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Hungary11289 Posts
Splash damage on Devourers is definitely wrong, I changed it now. But simply don't hesitate to eliminate what's plainly wrong .
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On November 18 2009 16:39 Mystlord wrote:
If you aren't confident about an edit, feel free to put it in the discussion page. When people see your edit, they'll respond and we'll see if your suggestions are true.
And for the record, Savior's more of the "I'll take some other guy's build but make it 20x better than he ever did" kind of guy. He didn't originate either idea, but he refined it so it became a near science.
thankyouthankyouthankyou! and i shall do.
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do you think it's more important to add content right now or to improve upon content?
personally, my biggest problem with liquipedia right now is the lack of a neutral tone and the presence of an extremely narrative tone
but i'll contribute in whatever way is the most helpful for liquipedia right now i guess
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On November 23 2009 13:50 blue_arrow wrote:
do you think it's more important to add content right now or to improve upon content?
personally, my biggest problem with liquipedia right now is the lack of a neutral tone and the presence of an extremely narrative tone
but i'll contribute in whatever way is the most helpful for liquipedia right now i guess
I can't say I favor one over the other. Both are needed at all times, finetuning existing content and adding new one.
Do what you feel is natural for you to do! is my main recommendation.
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I just want to say, thanks a lot for keeping liquipedia updated and such. I basically don't want to ruin the pages seeing as i'm still starting out and trying to start understanding the game.
But as soon as i have a clear grasp of the game i'll hopefully contribute some stuff, even if it were just bio's of players or something non strategy related :D
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Keep in mind that it's not really possible to 'ruin' Liquipedia pages. Incorrect changes can always be reverted.
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Some idiot removed/edited a shit ton of info i did for 3 hatch muta zvt. I literally wrote an essay for that and now it's all gone replaced by some D+ level knowledge.
Thanks a fucking lot, I only wasted about an hour and a half writing all that shit to help people out and some asshole removes it and replaces it with shit knowledge.
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On January 30 2010 09:24 resonance wrote:
Some idiot removed/edited a shit ton of info i did for 3 hatch muta zvt. I literally wrote an essay for that and now it's all gone replaced by some D+ level knowledge.
Thanks a fucking lot, I only wasted about an hour and a half writing all that shit to help people out and some asshole removes it and replaces it with shit knowledge.
Doesnt someone in charge have to "clear" any changes that are made? Shoulda saved your "essay" as well.
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On January 30 2010 09:24 resonance wrote:
Some idiot removed/edited a shit ton of info i did for 3 hatch muta zvt. I literally wrote an essay for that and now it's all gone replaced by some D+ level knowledge.
Thanks a fucking lot, I only wasted about an hour and a half writing all that shit to help people out and some asshole removes it and replaces it with shit knowledge.
It's not gone; you can either undo the edit or re-add your information from the history.
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On January 31 2010 13:20 overpool wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2010 09:24 resonance wrote:
Some idiot removed/edited a shit ton of info i did for 3 hatch muta zvt. I literally wrote an essay for that and now it's all gone replaced by some D+ level knowledge.
Thanks a fucking lot, I only wasted about an hour and a half writing all that shit to help people out and some asshole removes it and replaces it with shit knowledge. It's not gone; you can either undo the edit or re-add your information from the history.
Found it. Turns out one of my practice partners who used to compliment me for my standard play removed all my stuff.
Thanks Mystlord 
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i added statistics sections for flash, bisu, best, july, and savior.
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==this post was in bad taste==
sorries
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PLEASE TEAM LIQUID , i personally, love you guy's. That is why it saddens me and our community deeply that you are unable to find the time to update our largest archive.If you cannot find the time to update it regularly surely I can, or someone else in the community.
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Hungary11289 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:13 HumanGod wrote:
PLEASE TEAM LIQUID , i personally, love you guy's. That is why it saddens me and our community deeply that you are unable to find the time to update our largest archive.If you cannot find the time to update it regularly surely I can, or someone else in the community.
Hit "Random Page", start editing!
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Are there any pages that are more newb oriented? For example the terran strategy page says things like Finally the Terran vs. Terran Guide depicts the Rock-Paper-Scissors game-flow of the Terran mirror match, including various openings as well as Mid-Game Transitions, along with Timings. and the Terran vs. Terran guide talks about some common builds but nowhere does it talk about the matchup more generally eg "barracks unit are not used past the early game and the matchup usually involves factory and starport units" or something.
Basically I am looking for a page I could link a complete newb to that would give them a more general understanding of what a matchup usually looks like (what units are never used, what each race's goals are, etc) but I can't find any such pages.
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Also, i hate to just complain but:
There needs to be a page that is just "Terran" that has links to all units and buildings, for each race.
Thanks!
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On March 30 2011 08:33 TheNessman wrote:
Also, i hate to just complain but:
There needs to be a page that is just "Terran" that has links to all units and buildings, for each race.
Thanks!
I think you need to take another look at the title of this thread ;D
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Helping to edit, so far I've gotten Effort's return and the observer over missile turret (not accepted so far), hope to do alot more!
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there are a ton of things on liquipedia that could use fixing, but not very many people interested in fixing them
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Japan11286 Posts
Can a non-player (I only analyse games) contribute? I mean I don't have any experience playing against a human but I analyse strategy and tactics.
Thanks. ^^
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On March 30 2011 21:31 c3rberUs wrote:
Can a non-player (I only analyse games) contribute? I mean I don't have any experience playing against a human but I analyse strategy and tactics.
Thanks. ^^
How would you even contribute if you don't even play the game at all???
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Hungary11289 Posts
On March 30 2011 08:33 TheNessman wrote:
Also, i hate to just complain but:
There needs to be a page that is just "Terran" that has links to all units and buildings, for each race.
Thanks!
You mean stuff like this? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Units#Terran_Units
There is even a link on the left nav bar.
But once again: Requesting pages does not help us much. The information is generally known / spread somewhere, but it needs dedicated idealists who add them to the wiki. Our staff is mostly occupied with reviewing, background work and motivating editors, so in general we cannot fulfil page wishes.
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Japan11286 Posts
On March 30 2011 21:50 CoWsGoesMoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2011 21:31 c3rberUs wrote:
Can a non-player (I only analyse games) contribute? I mean I don't have any experience playing against a human but I analyse strategy and tactics.
Thanks. ^^ How would you even contribute if you don't even play the game at all???
How would I be interested in bw if I don't know what's going on? I don't need to play the game to actually know anything about it.
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You don't need to ask permission. Just write whatever you think you know and if it makes it it makes it.
Watching games to analysis though, especially if it's not in a replay, is no where close to understanding the execution of the build. You don't know timings for probe cuts or how to manage constant production, supply cap and tech buildings. Prove me wrong but I doubt you'd make a guide better than a D+ user would and thats shitty.
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Hungary11289 Posts
There are tons of things to contribute from people who only watch. We have extensive sections on Maps, Players, and Tournaments, all of which do require hardly any knowledge to fill out.
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Please help me! When I go TVP they go Carriers and harass DT. it is so annoying!
User was warned for this post
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If I notice a VOD is broken or taken off youtube, what should I do?
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On March 30 2011 23:50 Aesop wrote:
There are tons of things to contribute from people who only watch. We have extensive sections on Maps, Players, and Tournaments, all of which do require hardly any knowledge to fill out.
Shoud be gameplaying experience, not knowledge
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A Wiki is most and foreall designed to be a database by users for users.
I think you should give the admins some time to have a review over those edits and new articles you might add. Additionally, isnt RTS also fun because you mostly have to think yourself ? Try to get inspired by database and facts, but think yourself. Maybe that helped.
Greetings, insta : )
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So how do we get these Liquipedia spites?
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Hyrule19029 Posts
More info on them will be released soon. Hold your horses.
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On March 30 2011 23:50 Aesop wrote:
There are tons of things to contribute from people who only watch. We have extensive sections on Maps, Players, and Tournaments, all of which do require hardly any knowledge to fill out.
As a CPU-rank player, I endorse this fully.
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If you only watch the game one of the things that you can contribute is getting pictures of the wall-ins that the progamers do for maps especially the new Proleague, OSL and MSL maps. This part is optional but if you have broodwar installed you can also try the wall-ins out in game to figure out more precisely what needs to be done to wall off...like for example if you need to put 2 probes in between the gateway and the cliff to complete the wall.
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Hungary11289 Posts
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United States10328 Posts
so sad, only bronze?? after I wrote a whole YellOw bio?
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So... There are no differences between BW editors and Sc2 editors? and it is just # of edits? nothing about quality (IE you can add a ton of notable features on maps?)
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Sweden5554 Posts
No it's not just number of edits.
And I think BW and SC2 are weighted equally, yes.
And notable features on maps are something most map pages needs so feel free to go and add that and I'm fairly sure you'll get credited with coins for that after a while.
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lol now I shall spend so much more time on the wiki
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The main reason I've decided not to edit is just that i know builds, but i don't know the ideal build orders and don't want to post any bad information.
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Is the zerg vs terran 3 hatch before pool build order correct?
12 hatch
14 hatch
13 pool
I always feel when I do this, that the hatch timing and pool is so late compared to what JD is doing for example.
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Why can't I upload images?
I'm making a new article and I want it to have an image
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Netherlands6142 Posts
On June 04 2011 07:04 J.Dong wrote:Why can't I upload images? I'm making a new article and I want it to have an image
If you are logged in (top right, use TL ID + PW) you should be able to upload images using "upload file" on the left side. If it doesn't work talk to me on IRC and I'll have a look
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EPT![[image loading]](http://i42.tinypic.com/pygxe.jpg)
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