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rich-
Profile Joined February 2008
United States129 Posts
June 21 2014 04:45 GMT
#161
Wow, I was a dick in this thread 4 years ago. Sorry!
Btw I expanded the bgh 3v3 section today on liquipedia with a double terran match up guide; it seemed to be a missing piece.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9489 Posts
June 21 2014 10:17 GMT
#162
Omg, the memories ><

Yeah, as it's been mentioned, all of this stuff is on Liquipedia now under the http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Portal:BigGameHunters

Also, thanks rich for adding new stuff; maybe we could even finish all the guides that were posted there and are missing content!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 07:32:44
July 02 2014 07:23 GMT
#163
bgh is awesome. i used to think zerg was weak but then i realized i wasn't playing em right. this is pub games btw but still, i used to either suck in mid-late, or i would die to some mid game attack (esp. vs m&m)

lurker timing is key vs m&m, u need 3 hatcheries fairly fast (but can start 3rd after lair starts in techy builds), and good sim city on sunkens... ling lurker can work, throw in a few hydras sometimes... it all depends on the races of the other team... 2 hotkey of hydra and 1 of lurk with a few ovies can bust or contain a protoss (esp. with hydra dancing and taking cover over lurkers)... throw lings in to tank for hydra... ling hydra is a fun style (4 hatch fast) but can get caught off guard... muta is important in games with zerg on the other team, but sometimes u can spore up and rely on random hydras but u really need a squad of muta asap, well it helps anyway...

for late game, hydra guardian proved most versatile without being too micro intensive... ultra pretty joke unit always getting stuck... u gotta get ur econ up nicely in the beginning by pumping drones behind sim city sunkens... depending on what ur teammates are doing u can make few lings until you have a decent drone count like 27...

don't ask me how this fares against m&m tank + 4 gate zealot and cannons + 9p speed into muta. its just some guidelines i think are solid... 1 evo chamber only yo. carapace and missile first.

mid game weapons are lurker, muta, and hydra drop
late game u need greater spire (guardian really the only way to fight tank and storm on this choke point of a map) and in some rare cases dark swarm

oh also, good build is 12pool, hatch, sunken, hatch, gas, lair, gas, hydra den ... ling speed right after start lair unless there is a lot of action on the map... sometimes there isn't and each player is just powering up to their mid game (m&m, zealgoon, etc.)

bgh has interesting dynamics such that u can invest in static d more comfortably since the mineral wont run out and theres many patches to mine from in the main
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-03 18:19:58
July 03 2014 18:16 GMT
#164
dunno if this is the place, but has anyone thought about a new map to replace BGH? i mean, is BGH perfect or can it be improved upon to make a better team arcade map? personally i hate how tight the map is... i mean ultralisks are near useless...

something that is more likely to see mid-late game play sounds pretty cool...
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Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
July 03 2014 22:56 GMT
#165
@ mishimaBeef
This map is called (6)Sandpit

[image loading]
Star Tale Public Domain project. Maps: (2)Gates Of Memphis, (2)Marshmallow Toast, (4)Bubbles, (4)Clay Fields, (6)Numbskull Desert. Also the Vaylu Public Domain Tileset. Also Ramp Palettes, Brood War guides and some fun stuff. Links in my profile
WhiteKnight.US
Profile Joined May 2014
Great Britain102 Posts
July 03 2014 23:44 GMT
#166
dunno if this is the place, but has anyone thought about a new map to replace BGH? i mean, is BGH perfect or can it be improved upon to make a better team arcade map? personally i hate how tight the map is... i mean ultralisks are near useless...

something that is more likely to see mid-late game play sounds pretty cool...


On the Fish server they have what is basically their own version of big game hunters which is hilarious if you think about it. They are hosting the map all the time if you feel like hopping on Fish.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
July 04 2014 04:58 GMT
#167
On July 04 2014 08:44 WhiteKnight.US wrote:
Show nested quote +
dunno if this is the place, but has anyone thought about a new map to replace BGH? i mean, is BGH perfect or can it be improved upon to make a better team arcade map? personally i hate how tight the map is... i mean ultralisks are near useless...

something that is more likely to see mid-late game play sounds pretty cool...


On the Fish server they have what is basically their own version of big game hunters which is hilarious if you think about it. They are hosting the map all the time if you feel like hopping on Fish.


do you have a pic of the map you could post?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-04 05:09:27
July 04 2014 05:08 GMT
#168
On July 04 2014 07:56 CardinalAllin wrote:
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@ mishimaBeef
This map is called (6)Sandpit

[image loading]


dude... at least try... i mean the middle obviously needs to be stretched out more, but:

edit: bummer, image is cut off, need to download then view

[image loading]
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WhiteKnight.US
Profile Joined May 2014
Great Britain102 Posts
July 04 2014 18:34 GMT
#169
@mishimaBeef: No but basically it was like the old Mucho BGH map where each base had 3 sets of minerals, which at the time I thought was gay, but I don't know why BGH players enjoy BGH anyways.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-04 18:56:56
July 04 2014 18:53 GMT
#170
well i only have two beefs with bgh i think:

1) too tight, choke points all over the place
2) too much money in the base (it should run out after a while, maybe instead of 20k mineral patches, 5k?). something like 3-5 normal bases of money (9x1500 minerals, 1x5000 gas) or something like that.

yeah maybe something can be done about triple teaming also... like if one guy spawns in the corner alone, etc.

oh and islands seem cool, while siege tank on your main cliff doesn't. basically, there are many ideas that can be used to potentially improve the experience. rocks?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
rich-
Profile Joined February 2008
United States129 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 13:59:50
July 07 2014 13:59 GMT
#171
One other thing I don't like about BGH, is that you can't play SCV Basketball on this map. If you have ever tried, it just doesn't work. I was thinking maybe could edit the map to look more like this:
[image loading]

If anyone would like to help me with this and post more about this idea in this thread please feel free to.
By the way, did anyone see the world cup? We might want to start a conversation about that while we're at it.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 09 2014 04:46 GMT
#172
On June 21 2014 13:45 rich- wrote:
Wow, I was a dick in this thread 4 years ago. Sorry!
Btw I expanded the bgh 3v3 section today on liquipedia with a double terran match up guide; it seemed to be a missing piece.

lol I randomly opened this thread because I loved BGH and yeah, sorry too hahahaha
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
July 09 2014 16:10 GMT
#173
Is there teamliquid BGH group by any chance? I've been trying to get games on iccup but it's hard to find without leavers and such.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
rich-
Profile Joined February 2008
United States129 Posts
July 09 2014 17:26 GMT
#174
Iccup BGH games are pretty newb.
Channel )V( on USEast is the only place where you're going to find decent BGH games.
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
July 18 2014 05:29 GMT
#175
Still playing BGH huh rich
rich-
Profile Joined February 2008
United States129 Posts
July 18 2014 16:03 GMT
#176
Yeah man. I tried to pick up sc2 and I just didn't have the same amount of fun. It was kinda fun but, it really didn't hold my attention. Neither did D3, played that for about 2 weeks and got bored.
Dunno what it is about bw and bgh specifically that's so fun but I'm still hooked.
If you want to get some games in sometime, pm me on here or fb.
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