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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 29 2009 22:55 LaLaBye wrote: If a protoss sits off 2 bases the right thing to do is macro off 2 bases as well and play defense intill he either attacks or goes for his thrid then you base your timing off the 3rd right? Yes, you can wait for about 170 suply units. | ||
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Piste
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On March 29 2009 22:55 LaLaBye wrote: If a protoss sits off 2 bases the right thing to do is macro off 2 bases as well and play defense intill he either attacks or goes for his thrid then you base your timing off the 3rd right? Yeah, I believe that's what Artosis(?) said in one of his english commentaries for TvP. | ||
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
Maybe you can help me out. I'm kind of a braindead player when it comes to strategy. How do i deal with build order interruptions? For instance when i loose one or two thanks or some vultures before i lay down 3 factorys (or the ref/aca/arm) i feel that i'm not shure when to timing attack. Countless times i scanned/scouted as well as possible and then ended up loosing my push because his 3-base macro kicked in. It just feels like i'm trying to stop a ticking bomb that is about to get bigger and bigger with arbiters and i'm like sitting on my paper-tanks. When supply shifts because of losses are there any landmarks for me to follow? Or should i just wait for 2-1 / 170 and hope my harass does at least some damage? | ||
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
gj "noob" u r the most awesome "noob" ever | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Ofcourse it gets tricky if you lose units early on when trying to do a timed push or whatever. Most of the times, if you lose too many units, you simply cannot do the push at the usual timing because you will have too few units. This is called being in a disadvantage, having to make a comeback and so forth. There are a few things you can do as a terran. 1. Resort to risky moves. Examples; take a hidden expansion, do all-in by cutting scvs and still being able to get units up in time. 2. awesome micro can switch a game for example a great harass 3. Rely on the fact that most large terran armies are greater than other races greater armys and just macro up and get upgrades and try to win with one big push even if you are behind. As for keeping the timings without having the correct suply, studdy the buildorders, not only at what suply you make building, but also in what specific order you make those buildings. Lets say i lose some early tanks with my 5fact push, i still add the buildings in the same order, but not suply, and therefor i will still have the same buildings as I would have had with the usual suplycount. This is very commonly used not at least for TvZ when you have to make a bunker or not. If i make a bunker, all suply counts will usually change for my buildings, but i will still build them in the same order. Many times if you have played a strategie over and over again, these things will be easy to remember, and you will know that at the time you have for example almost finnished the factory its time to put up turrets vs 3hatch muta. But some times, when relying on specific timings and your units gets killed of you simply have to be the greater player to win. This is developed over time, so there is no easy general answer for all situations. As for your last example, i can only say that you should know what buildings you usually have at that timing, then move out IF you have enough units to kill him. This you can only judge by scouting his army and such things. You will still know the timing, but your unitcount might be hurt enough to not be able to execute the strategy. Updates will be done some at a time. I won't update questions one by one but rather wait a while and then add a bunch at a time. These update headlines will be red for a few days so people easily can go through new updates without having to search for them so much. | ||
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Piste
6180 Posts
edit: lol I just found it, was bit different than I remembered.... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89286 | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 30 2009 09:12 Piste wrote: Hey, I've seen pretty specific BO for TvZ 1rax FE where the CC was built at 15. Anyone knows where I can find that guide? I tried searching but I suck at it.. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89286 I discuss the difference between this build, "9minpush" and "artosis build" in the FAQ under TvZ 9min Push. | ||
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Piste
6180 Posts
On March 30 2009 09:16 StylishVODs wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89286 Hehe lol, found it at the same minute you posted this^^ Thanks anyways tho! | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On March 30 2009 09:18 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I couldn't resist: Hehehe, look at what your are doing to our community Stylish  | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On March 30 2009 09:40 Grobyc wrote: Hehehe, look at what your are doing to our community Stylish Power to the UED!!! | ||
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StylishVODs
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LOcDowN
United States1015 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17731 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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extracheez
Australia151 Posts
) and quite a few victories agaisnt Z's.Good shit man keep the vods coming | ||
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United States47 Posts
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Poland10 Posts
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