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! Day[9] Podcasts E14: TvZ on Heartbreak Ridge - Page 34

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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
August 05 2009 12:45 GMT
#661
So, I've played against this with Z and used it with P a couple of times.
I find the build good, but I think it's a bit too predictable and a bit hard vs 12hatch. Since you get the zealot out late, I as zerg can see what your up too with my drone, and then before your corsair gets to my base i can have all my overlords hovering over a spore colony.

After I get enough drones to support 3 hatch hydra, the protoss can't kill me with the goon reaver push, so he takes his expo and I take my 3rd and 4th and win by having way more econ.

So my question is. What do you do if your sair DOESN'T DO ANY DAMAGE? because if the sair doesnt do damage, the early attack won't do damage,and then the push with reavers won't do any damage either.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42685 Posts
August 05 2009 13:17 GMT
#662
I don't get why you're advocating zealot goon zealot for D rank players against 9 pool. A D rank zerg with 8 zerglings will always beat a D rank protoss with a zealot and dragoon. Obviously your build is playable at higher levels but assuming both players are bad the protoss cannot hold his ramp vs 9 pool.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
August 05 2009 14:47 GMT
#663
Don't know why this wasn't in the recommended threads. Added.

Also, do we really need Day[9] in the thread title? haha
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LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
August 05 2009 15:19 GMT
#664
obviously...yes XD
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
rAnDoMZerg
Profile Joined June 2009
Israel20 Posts
August 05 2009 16:10 GMT
#665
oh... COME ON... no Zerg... its your race man!! :D Make us gosu! make Zerg win rate 99% :D Some ZvZ&ZvT&ZvP mix with general micro macro tips mixed with some advices on advanced mechanics for Z E R G! :D

gg :'(

Thanks anyway :D you rock :D gotta play some P games to piss zergs off :D
Jaedong ftw
Priapus
Profile Joined March 2009
United States36 Posts
August 05 2009 17:24 GMT
#666
I have to agree with random zerg....
Betrayal of the Swarm will not be taken lightly...
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
August 05 2009 20:39 GMT
#667
On August 06 2009 02:24 Priapus wrote:
I have to agree with random zerg....
Betrayal of the Swarm will not be taken lightly...
But he will be the only one spared when the Days of the Swarm are over:-p
BW fighting!
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
August 05 2009 23:10 GMT
#668
On August 05 2009 22:17 Kwark wrote:
I don't get why you're advocating zealot goon zealot for D rank players against 9 pool. A D rank zerg with 8 zerglings will always beat a D rank protoss with a zealot and dragoon. Obviously your build is playable at higher levels but assuming both players are bad the protoss cannot hold his ramp vs 9 pool.


holding vs a 9pool is perhaps the ONLY difficult aspect of this build. since you've identified the issue, the goal is to practice it, not to avoid it.

so, if you're a player struggling to hold a 9pool, get a friend to 9pool you for 2 hours until you feel awesome with it.

that said, if the ENTIRE BUILD were really technical and difficult (such as the fantasy's vionic play) then i would steer them away to something more straightforward (like this build! :D)
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 05 2009 23:22 GMT
#669
Awww a new ep finally! <3
觀過斯知仁矣.
dataXploit
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada81 Posts
August 06 2009 02:34 GMT
#670
[image loading]


LOL its doing it again! It is impossible to make it clear...
Nosmo
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada210 Posts
August 06 2009 03:20 GMT
#671
Day, you could make an FPVOD of the goon/reaver build to clear up confusion among us noobs.
Killer next Bonjwa//Much is also good//Savior what happened//Fuck yeah, Nal_ra!
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
August 06 2009 04:58 GMT
#672
thanks day great as always
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
mysticism
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada124 Posts
August 06 2009 05:09 GMT
#673
keep them coming! and cast more games ur combat vs chill was too funny
endGame
Profile Joined June 2009
United States394 Posts
August 06 2009 05:39 GMT
#674
MOAR and thank you you're awesome <3
"...As the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must." -Thucydides
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 07:53:05
August 06 2009 07:52 GMT
#675
On August 06 2009 11:34 darkmarksman wrote:
[image loading]


LOL its doing it again! It is impossible to make it clear...


YES get rid of the damn "[G]" in the title

they're podcasts damnit
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
August 06 2009 08:45 GMT
#676
I was thinking of what to get next...I was thinking the [9] but you might be adverse to that >.<.

The [G] is probably a better choice.

If you're having trouble versus 9 pool or overpool you could pull 1 or 2 probes to help out your first zeal, shouldn't hurt you too much and helps take down those zerglings.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
August 06 2009 11:29 GMT
#677
i just tried the strat from the latest episode in a d-level game on athena. it worked pretty pretty well. it worked even with the zerg trying to break my ramp with a shitload of lings.

and i build my first zealot after starting my stargate.

the zerg wasn't that good though and the game lagged like hell. i almost lost my reaver because of that. but with a little practice this could be a powerful pvz build on certain maps.

thanks for sharing this sean!
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 12:31:25
August 06 2009 12:30 GMT
#678
Hell I'd say I'd personally LOVE to see [9] instead of [G] lol
how about [Pod]
or something...
anyways I gotta faceSmash on iccup :D
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Afasia
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland70 Posts
August 06 2009 12:34 GMT
#679

Sorry if I missed a mention but are there replays out anywhere? one facing 9pool and other one versus 12hatch?

Also. Say that your first push somehow gets totally annihilated, is there any real way to come back?
Ill try to skim something from repdepot just in case someone uploaded this BO with a name I can identify it.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be.
Everywhere
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States97 Posts
August 06 2009 12:45 GMT
#680
On August 06 2009 20:29 jhNz wrote:
i just tried the strat from the latest episode in a d-level game on athena. it worked pretty pretty well. it worked even with the zerg trying to break my ramp with a shitload of lings.

and i build my first zealot after starting my stargate.

the zerg wasn't that good though and the game lagged like hell. i almost lost my reaver because of that. but with a little practice this could be a powerful pvz build on certain maps.

thanks for sharing this sean!


First zealot after core, not stargate. day9 corrected himself on pg 33.
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