EPTHmm, I can't judge whether this is true, but his TvZ really shines against his opponents so far. I think we would have to see how he performs vs guys like Ret, Mondragon and so on. However, the replays are great except for one or two games where he's a bit careless with his MMF.
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
Hmm, I can't judge whether this is true, but his TvZ really shines against his opponents so far. I think we would have to see how he performs vs guys like Ret, Mondragon and so on. However, the replays are great except for one or two games where he's a bit careless with his MMF. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
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ZzZzAnG
United States109 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
I'm saving the recordings though and will upload them as "freestyle tvz" where i basically don't follow any strict build but rather just react to what the zerg does and counter it or just play around. I guess you could watch reps of it but FPVODs are more fun i guess. I will do commentary for the good games, but not for all freestyle-games. Might use my mixerskills instead^^ Anyway Zoler im sorry i dont know if i'll be able to put the VOD up in time. I'll try though. Aplexnd: Is that a proposition? i dont understand^^ you want me to do it or are you willing to do it for me? Would be great though, coz ansdwering same questions over and over is not saving time! Anyway thnx for the support!! | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On March 21 2009 02:01 d1v wrote: Hmm, I can't judge whether this is true, but his TvZ really shines against his opponents so far. I think we would have to see how he performs vs guys like Ret, Mondragon and so on. However, the replays are great except for one or two games where he's a bit careless with his MMF. Stylish is known by the ones that know him to be one of the top foreigner TvZ, you can ask ToT)Naugrim( and many more ^^ it's just that he doesn't play in a good clan or in tournaments so he's just not that known to the crowd. | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
On March 21 2009 06:01 Zoler wrote: Stylish is known by the ones that know him to be one of the top foreigner TvZ, you can ask ToT)Naugrim( and many more ^^ it's just that he doesn't play in a good clan or in tournaments so he's just not that known to the crowd. Well, if Naugrim says so, there must be some truth in it. Maybe TL should get Stylish to push F91 down from the Liquibition throne?  | ||
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ZzZzAnG
United States109 Posts
 do you think just always do 5fac push?i tryed strong fd but p can defend it with 10 15 gate because of long distance or the highground when icant see it and i always lose units and im pretty much gg'd,please help how to beat p T_T | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17727 Posts
On March 21 2009 05:32 StylishVODs wrote: Aplexnd: Is that a proposition? i dont understand^^ you want me to do it or are you willing to do it for me? Would be great though, coz ansdwering same questions over and over is not saving time! Anyway thnx for the support!! He means he will do it  | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 21 2009 11:24 ZzZzAnG wrote: hey stylish i was wondering if you can you please show more tvp games because terran vs protoss is so hard,p can do some many things 2gate dt reaver and stuff like that and it seems easier to pvt than tvp not trying to say 1a2a3a or p is imba but its pretty hard to beat p well in my opinion i lost like 5 or 6 straight tvp's on c- level T_T and it seems impossible.. do you think just always do 5fac push?i tryed strong fd but p can defend it with 10 15 gate because of long distance or the highground when icant see it and i always lose units and im pretty much gg'd,please help how to beat p T_TTvP is pretty hard. I can only give tips and buildorders the rest you have to practice. Even if you listen to all i have to say you will lose alot of game during practice. However I will answer this. Nowadays I use the strong FD opening on most maps. If you aren't able to cause enough damage with the attack, or aren't able to scout properly what he does, feel comfort in that with this strategy, if he's opening preassure goons, you will have the earlier expansion. While laying mines with the second vulture, add Ebay and reserch siegemode and take a defensive position. If he does any sort of 2 gate preassure build, you will notice it. Just attack with marines and tanks as normal, but be more causius and use the vultures to lay mines outside your natural and in the middle of the map. Do some damage but try not to lose the tanks, micro them carefully, pull them back as soon as goons start to fire on them. From here you can add armory and go for a 2-1 upgrade attack and take a third or you can switch into 5fact push or something like that. If you do enough damage, if he's doing 14cc or 1gate exp or 1gate tech, you will be able to scout his tech and can play accordingly. If he's expanding alot and making observers you can do the 5fact attack followup like I did in the VOD and alot of other things that doesn't include being so careful. So basically it depends on the damage you can do to him and what information you can gather with the attack. If no damage, defensive mines, play defensively + vults as scouts after mines are layed. If much damage, offensive mines, scout and play greedy, as in my VOD. Alexpnd that would be great then, please PM me | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
![[image loading]](http://repdepot.net/img/thumbs/8650.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://repdepot.net/img/thumbs/8651.jpg) two replays ForGG beating Oystein on Medusa with strong FD | ||
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uppTagg
Sweden473 Posts
Keep up the great great work! cheers! ^^ | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On March 21 2009 20:45 uppTagg wrote: You seriously need a star man! ;D What build do you like on Longinus? Standard 9min push? I've had some success with it but I've also been raped pretty bad by lings rushing in and 2hatch lurk builds :< imo it's pretty hard to defend against speedling run-ins on this map because there is no ramp or no mineral-line to pull the scvs to to make them block the choke... well I guess you could drag them to the min-only patches :S but I guess it's mostly because my micro is godawful >< Keep up the great great work! cheers! ^^ you can always make ling-tight wall-ins on longinus outside your natural (except at the 11'o clock pos) which enables you to take your expo before making your first marine. Ling all-ins and runby's is really not a problem on longinus. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 21 2009 20:45 uppTagg wrote: You seriously need a star man! ;D What build do you like on Longinus? Standard 9min push? I've had some success with it but I've also been raped pretty bad by lings rushing in and 2hatch lurk builds :< imo it's pretty hard to defend against speedling run-ins on this map because there is no ramp or no mineral-line to pull the scvs to to make them block the choke... well I guess you could drag them to the min-only patches :S but I guess it's mostly because my micro is godawful >< Keep up the great great work! cheers! ^^ Longinus is great for 14 cc at pos 6 and 3. Ayumi build is good for pos 11. I will do a VOD of a great 14cc build for longinus. Today hopefully. I've had great success with this build! | ||
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ZzZzAnG
United States109 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 22 2009 02:19 ZzZzAnG wrote: i was wondering if its good to go mech on longinus in tvz?i was thinking about 2port wraith oppening or other mech openers with tight wall in,or is it going to be hard to defend if z gets double gas? I woudln't suggest it, but its very doable. Specially mech builds. But since Longinus is pretty good for standard TvZ Bio you should't complicate things. I'm going to try to record a VOD now. | ||
SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
Also, on another note, what are your opinions on old school builds like the 2Fact Rush, (2 Add-ons with Speed and Mines) where you push with 4 vults and a tank? I saw TheMarine demonstrate it on a FPVOD in a KTF tutorial vid. It seems old school, but why is it not really seen a lot anymore? | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 22 2009 03:06 SilverskY wrote: Hey Stylish what's the optimal build for TVP on Destination? I heard the most viable is Siege Expand, but what is your opinion on openings such as a normal FD, or strong FD on this map? Also, on another note, what are your opinions on old school builds like the 2Fact Rush, (2 Add-ons with Speed and Mines) where you push with 4 vults and a tank? I saw TheMarine demonstrate it on a FPVOD in a KTF tutorial vid. It seems old school, but why is it not really seen a lot anymore? Destination is hard TvP imo. I wouldn't suggest any sort of "Flashbuild". Strong FD is doable on this map. 5factpush is also good but sometimes its hard to break out of the bridges when you do the 5factpush, so generally i like to open Strong FD and have 2 vultures roaming map so he defend rather than hold pos outside your base. Dropstrat also works here, but sometimes wall can be risky since he might block pylon with probe. With the dropstrat you can abuse the area behind his expansion. Also in lategame, while pushing, take 1 tank and move via the side of the map behind his natural to abuse that area, like SkyHigh did vs BeSt. 2fact is doable, but risky. If you do it, be sure to open up the mineralpatch in your base so you can come from behind with vultures if he holds ground outside your bridges with goons. | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 22 2009 04:34 Oystein wrote: hmmm I find flash builds the hardest ones to play vs on desti.... Its like impossible to beat a maxed 3\3 army on desti PvT. Dunno maybe its just me. You have to take the third slower and make some rounds of vults first, coz its really hard to defend any kind of attack. But sure, if you can get a third up safe, i would suggest adding it later than in my vod and be really causius, then ofcourse its really good in lategame. | ||
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