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LOcDowN
United States1015 Posts
On February 09 2009 14:58 SilverskY wrote: Hey Stylish, as a personal request, do you think you could do a VOD of doing a Biomech in a TVP? While you're waiting for Stylish to respond, check this "FD ver.2" posted on pgr21. Link: FD ver.2 | ||
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number1gog
United States1081 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Enjoy! | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Silversky I don't play biomech vs protoss. My mechanics would probably get me to C+ B- TvP with biomech but not my undetstanding of that startegy or the build itself. Therefor I don't think I can do that sort of build. However if I learn that build in the future I might put it up! My next project will probably be an alternate opening for TvP. However I'm not sure yet, new maps on iccup now so I will probably focus on some good builds for medusa!! | ||
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uppTagg
Sweden473 Posts
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On February 09 2009 22:59 d1v wrote: Stylish, how do you think of opening 1 Factory Siege Expand instead of FD Push and then transition into the 5 Factory timing push you displayed? Any chance of you covering that opening? Also, could you maybe do a tutorial on a 6 Factory timing push and/or a 1/2 Factory Starport build? Looking forward to seeing more of your great work! I will cover those builds within the coming weeks. 1fact siege imo is better for the 6fact push, but fully doable for 5 fact aswell. Its just that i like FD better since it gives you the possibility to be aggressive early on, and also gives you great scouting with the vulture so you can get an idea of what your opponent is doing and when he's taking his third. Also the 4 marines are very good vs reaverdrops. upptagg: thnx that was frustrating:/ ill upload the real one when i get the chance T_T | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
Another question I've got is what do I do if the Protoss stays on 2 bases and masses up (like White_Ra did against Idra in TSL). In this case, I guess the 5 Factory timing push is not applicable, am I right? So, what to do then? | ||
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hasuprotoss
United States4647 Posts
On February 09 2009 23:58 d1v wrote: Thx for the quick answer Stylish. I see your point, especially the scouting is greatly simplified thanks to the Vultures. Seeing as scouting is crucial for a timing push, I guess the FD opening indeed is the more viable one. Another question I've got is what do I do if the Protoss stays on 2 bases and masses up (like White_Ra did against Idra in TSL). In this case, I guess the 5 Factory timing push is not applicable, am I right? So, what to do then? I may have this horribly wrong, but I am pretty sure you can just continue massing up with them and just wait. There is nothing wrong with being patient when your opponent is just sitting there. 2 Base Terran vs. 2 Base Protoss should favor the Terran. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On February 10 2009 00:37 hasuprotoss wrote: I may have this horribly wrong, but I am pretty sure you can just continue massing up with them and just wait. There is nothing wrong with being patient when your opponent is just sitting there. 2 Base Terran vs. 2 Base Protoss should favor the Terran. True. With the 5fact you will start upgrading +1attack. If he doesn't expand you will be able to scan this. Then just sit tight, add a 6th factory and mass units from two bases. When +1 is finnished start +1armor. Move out when you have about 160 suply or when he's taking a third. Your 1-1 units will help alot in the fight. You should cut scv when you are at about 90-100 suply so you can have even more units vs the 2base protoss. | ||
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Elric
United Kingdom1327 Posts
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hasuprotoss
United States4647 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On February 10 2009 03:49 hasuprotoss wrote: It would be awesome if you could at least make a small post about building placement. I frequently find myself with randomly placed buildings and such and I frequently see you place supply depots with some space between them. If you could just write up a general overview of how to place buildings and why to do it as such I would love you even more than I currently do :D Ok, I'll put it on my todo list  Probably wont be able to make more VODs until the weekend though! | ||
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masami.sc
United States445 Posts
"Make sure to die one tank like that" =D | ||
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Phrogs!
Japan521 Posts
Keep up the good work<3 | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
i played some mech today on B level and i found out another opening vs 2hatch ill try to make a vod about it this weekend etc.. just alittle short about it: if you notice that he is going 2 hatch you can actually make 1 fact-exp. If he upgrades lingspeedfirst you upgrade vultspeed and move out with 3 vults and then lift cc to exp. If he makes lair first, place exp at the spot to get economical advantage. then add armory and 2 factories (total of 3) add ebay as you transfer to your exp and then cut scvs to be abkle to make 3 goliath and upgrade armor + make a few turrets in time. This has actually worked really well for me on iccup. Anyway i will make a vod about it.. Going to watch a movie now and then sleep hopefully, gl hf everyone!! | ||
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Erphniirls
United States13 Posts
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masami.sc
United States445 Posts
On February 10 2009 05:29 AnOth3rDAy wrote: Thnx masami and phrogs! Its the support that makes me want to help you guys i played some mech today on B level and i found out another opening vs 2hatch ill try to make a vod about it this weekend etc.. just alittle short about it: if you notice that he is going 2 hatch you can actually make 1 fact-exp. If he upgrades lingspeedfirst you upgrade vultspeed and move out with 3 vults and then lift cc to exp. If he makes lair first, place exp at the spot to get economical advantage. then add armory and 2 factories (total of 3) add ebay as you transfer to your exp and then cut scvs to be abkle to make 3 goliath and upgrade armor + make a few turrets in time. This has actually worked really well for me on iccup. Anyway i will make a vod about it.. Going to watch a movie now and then sleep hopefully, gl hf everyone!! No problem stylish. You are the Gandhi of the terran race lol. But I have a little question. In TvZ, when does the zerg usually take his gas? If he takes his gas early (after pool), does that mean hes going for a two hatch muta build? Thanks a bunch! | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On February 10 2009 07:19 masami.sc wrote: No problem stylish. You are the Gandhi of the terran race lol. But I have a little question. In TvZ, when does the zerg usually take his gas? If he takes his gas early (after pool), does that mean hes going for a two hatch muta build? Thanks a bunch! gas after pool means he's going 3 hatch but abit faster lair (or speedlings) than usual with lower economy or fewer lings. Gas same time as pool or slightly before pool means 2 hatch. Be sure to scout if he adds lair quickly after mining the gas. If he doesnt get lair fast it means he's going for a speedlingrush before muta or lurk, usually muta. gas after 3rd hatch is standard 3hatch. From there they usually go mutaliskt, but they can also do a lurkeropening. If they do lurkeropening they often add an evolutionchamber aswell, so be sure to look for one when you scan. if they dont take gas and dont make a 3rd hatch they usually proxy a third hatch somewhere on the map. when scouting with the scv be sure to look what pops out of the eggs. If he has 3 larvas saved up when the pool finnishes this usually means he's doing 6 or 8 lings, in that case you will need to make a bunker. If he has 1 or 2 larvas saved up he usually make 4 lings and then only try to kill your scv. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Please keep this up Stylish :D | ||
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